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Clubroom => Vintage Track => Topic started by: Graeme M on August 19, 2012, 09:30:27 am
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With the Classic titles looming here's another chance for a ride at Canberra with a club raceday next weekend. Racing will be on Sunday August 26 with the usual assortment of classes including Over 35s and Classics. You could get at least 6 races and more if you enter modern classes as well. It's always an informal but smoothly run day and the track is at its best right now. Not sure but they may be running the shorttrack arrangement this time.
Also don't forget there'll be another practice day on September 2.
http://www.actmcc.com.au
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Graeme is spot on with this post. Canberra last hosted Classic Dirt Track Titles in 2008 (I think) and it was a pearler. So if you are of a mind to do the Titles this year take the opportunity to have a ride this coming Sunday. Good track, well prepped surface and always a well run meeting. I will be at this coming Sunday's meeting with good stocks of 18" and 19" Mitas, Vee Rubber and Shinko Trials Universals for sale if anyone is chasing same.
A bit off topic I know but for those that like to do the Safari and Adventure thing I always have in excess of 100 of that style of tyres in most sizes and patterns in the most popular brands in stock all the time.
Even a bit more off topic, I do carry a limited range of road bike tyre brands and sizes.
That all doesn't read and look like an ad does it ???????????
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It *does* sound a bit like an ad! I have a mate who's thinking of getting into dirt track, but he needs a 19" tyre. I'll let him know, he might drop by for a look at what you've got there. Which do you reckon is the better choice in the 19" size?
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Gosh Graeme thats a bit of a no win type of question to someone that sells them. Much better to ask the punters that ride on them regularly.
Reason being is that if I say that A is better than B there will be plenty that say the opposite. Then there will be guys that swear by D and of course the odd one that wins on tyre C. And so it goes on.
But no matter what, you can bet leftie that the guy who blows us all off on the day is on tyre X. And there is generally a pretty good reason for that, if you get my drift.
Good question all the same and I would love to hear what the majority reckon.
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Col will be in Canberra for the titles in Oct with a full compliment of tyres so remember that if anyone wants to have a brand new tyre for the finals, remember, there's nothing better than a new edge.
Is that a good enough plug for you Col?
P.S. Free fitting also available. ;D
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Yeah Askew that plug was all sounding pretty good until that bit about the free fitting. But as your not riding at the titles I'll happily pass the tyre levers and rubber hammer onto you. That was what you were thinking wasn't it.
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Good one Col, tried the Shinko (19'') in the states this year,not quite sure whether is the tickett for our tracks but it certainly helped me after a track watering in Ohio. They offer a more rounded profile, make a good front (will use it as that on the front next year, with a squarer option on rear). Great to have someone to bring some rubber to the races, thanks Col.
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I gotta ask about that cos my mate is keen to get a good 19" tyre. I am not coming from a position of knowledge here, so I am curious. Why is a square profile more desirable? I'd have thought a rounded profile is better so it's more predictable as the bike leans over. I think back in the day guys reckoned the Michies worked better as they wore.
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I suspect you rational is correct Graeme as the Mitas on my XT 500 is so predictable and confidence inspiring,
But I reckon the Mitchy fitted to the CZ give's better drive with a bit of twitchyness
the Vee Rubber on the XL 250/cr125 seems to give good drive but neither of those bike's over whelm the tyre. probably not quite as predictable as the Mitas though.
Cheers
Noel
PS . will ring soon . bit over whelmed at the moment.
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OK, no rush Noel.
Well, at least you have the bases covered tyres wise! :) I tend to the point of view just go Michelin but for the 19" size it's a real lottery it seems. I bought an 18" wheel for my YZ125 and went Michelin. It's well worn now but still seems to work well at Canberra. I will spring for a new one for next year. I was looking at photos of the recent titles at Gunnedah and also the Taree meet - everyone's running small fronts with what look like US dirt track tyres or rain tyres. But that's oiled tracks for you.
I think engine power makes a difference - I agree what you say re the CR and XL. Bikes with under 30hp aren't gonna overwhelm any tyre really...
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When you're oldish and your reflex's aren't quite what they used to be, predictability is important.
That's what I also liked about the Mitas.
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Hi Graeme
I've got a 19" Vee Rubber on my modern. It seems to me to be pretty good.
On the 18" bikes I have Michy's. They *may* provide a little better drive but cornering to me seems very similar between both brands.
Cheers
Shaun
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Thanks Shaun. Gezza is going to try a Vee Rubber, but not sure when he'll debut. He had some weak excuse about needing to swot up for work so couldn't make it this weekend.
Back to the original thread topic, the weather forecast is good for Sunday so I reckon a good day will be had by all.
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Good to hear from you Pete. Like many others on this site I have been following your progress in the States with interest and more than a little envy.
Other than what I have seen in videos and still images I know nothing about the surfaces of those tracks you competed on in the states other than like some tracks here in oz they appear to develop the blue line which is probably not the ideal surface for any Trials Universal. What you said about it working a bit better after track watering made sense and maybe if you were chasing a bit of loose the Trials Universal might come into it's own. Other than that it kinda looks like something a bit more road (race) orientated would be the go on most of those surfaces.
In answer to Graeme's posts on the subject of Trials Universals my take on it is by definition Trials Universals are just that, Universal. As to which is the best I have no idea but if and when anyone finds a tyre that works for every rider of every grade on every capacity (modern or classic with all the associated variances in power delivery) of every riding style on every surface and comes with a money back guarantee put me down for a couple.
Pete, caught up with our mate Grasy at the Nepean Charity meeting a few weeks ago and as always he was in everything but the proverbial shit sandwich and going like a cut cat. If it moves he'll ride it.
Reckon you'll make it Classic Titles in Canberra Pete.
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Hi Col,
Tried the Shit sandwich but it tasted like a god damn cut cat. Hey but I did run your Mitas on all the bikes they are a ticket at Nepean. Some of the tyres where 2 yrs old & still kept their edge just keep rotating them. After I buy 10 do I a free one .LOL
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David you've obviously had a big day at work and clearly delerium is setting in. Pop off to bed now and we'll talk about it another time.
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OK Mate off to Bed with my best mate Ned (Kelly I am one lucky man to have a friend & wife like her) Kelly is my Rock & best Friend but she does out fish me. P:S Ned said HI
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Goodnight Dave, make sure you tuck him in well Ned.
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Hi All,
Got a call from Jan Blizzard (Race sec for ACT Titles)this morning about the Aussie Titles they only have 24 entries as to date. Please help the club & get your entries in by now you should know if you are going or not. Just makes it a lot easier for the race secretary & club. Entrties close 12th Sept.
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Yeah c'mon guy's, extract a digit or spread the word.
Excellant track in a central venue, I sure would if I could.
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I put my entry in.
Pre78 IT250 and Pre78 IT400 Yamahas.
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So who is going, who has entered and who isn't going and who is going to enter. Canberra Club is/has always been a big supporter of the Classic Dirt Track movement so the least we can do is get behind this event. Guaranteed you wont regret it.
Does anyone know if Dave Tanner or anyone else north of the border is coming down.
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Good question Col, I would put money on Col Metcher being there.
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I am trying hard to organise the 'readies' so I can challenge Mr Metcher in the 'Super Seniors'!
pancho.
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yeah,i'm in,someone has to keep you old blokes honest ;D, :P
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Entered 2 weeks ago $460.00 fee for my son Anthony & myself between us we will be riding 5 classes (getting the Tee shirts to boot).
Pull ya finger out & enter.
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filled in, not sent in.....yet
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What, only five classes Dave. C'mon mate have a bit of a go. Any word on the other half of Team Riverena. He's been a bit quite on the subject.
Anyone on this forum from the Canberra Club that can maybe give us a bit of a heads up on how entrys are going would be good. More particularly any interstate entrys.
Freaky, I know you're out their but are you out their and have you enter'd.
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Hi Col.
Team Riverina has about 7 riders coming . Ol Pete is back home & will be there (shit) .We are both busy booking stuff for our trip to USA next year . The plane flights done him well he only looks about 60 yrs old. See ya at the titles.
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Entered today, hope to run in pre 78 125 and Over 250. Not sure about entries, I asked a club guy today and he thought he'd heard over 100 at this stage. If that's true it's looking good. Still several days to closing date so should pick up a few more before then. Bring it on!
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Not being a rumour monger but I heard that entries were low as of Fri night and we need people to make a comittment and enter, great club, great track and even better people, you'll have a ball.
Spread the word.
Can we find out if we can camp at the track on the Friday night?
Pat, you the man.
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I'm sure that would be fine, we all did last time. The Canberra club's hospitality is second to none. The Griffith Club had our Golden Wheels Dirt-Track on Sunday and it was a huge success, many members and visitors giving the Classics a run. Bring it on Canberra!
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This post has gone quiet. Wot is happening with the titles????
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Dunno, haven't heard anything as yet. No news is good news?
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Obviously the word is slow on getting out of Canberra, Julia did lose her father.
C'mon guy's, how are things going, the Griffith mafia have their invasion planned, even The Don is back from conquering the US.
Leave the tongue at home Dave, tastes like shite.
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Mine's been posted away all paid and ready to rock and roll on the [day][/s] days.
All keen for the Super Seniors race!
cheers pancho.
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Nothing on the ACTMCC website as yet, hopefully it's a case of no news is good news.
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Can we get some feedback on how things are going, the communication for this event has been poor.
Still no information updates whatsoever on either the ACTMCC website or Facebook page.
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Gave Jan Blizzard a call this morning,event is on 81 entries,Pre 75 125 all age combined,Pre 70 263cc & over has over 12 entries so will have heats,all other classes have sufficient entries for Aust Title status except Sliders & Sidecars dont have sufficient entries to make Aust Title status but will be ran.
See ya there.
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Good to hear Canberra is GO. Grassy from your experience from Griffith Title meeting can you have a rough guess as to how many bikes 81 entrys equates to or does 81 entrys mean 81 bikes in total.
As you are probably down the shed working on the filthy 4 strokes maybe Ned can answer this one.
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We had 112 entries at Griffith 2010 over 170 races. Not working on da filthy 4 strokes on the 2 strokes now. We have a classic practice day this weekend so we can sort out our attack.
Col 81 Entries may equal 60 riders at a guess
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If anyone has a Sidecar that is eligible and needs a pilot, I'll put my hand up, seriously.
Me old mate Jim has already put his hand up to swing, something about he's been a swinger for years, maybe he meant something else.
80 something entries sounds about right, the last few years have had around 100 or so and given that there are at least 6 classes less available, the numbers add up.
I'm pee'd off bigtime that I won't be riding but I'm seriously looking forward to some great racing and a few nights around the fire.
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Shit Aussie Titles coming up & all you all can talk about is the crap in your own shed that probably wont even be there, get with the sport & stop putting self importance on yourselves & throw a leg over the bikes you keep BRAGGING about. FARK where is this sport going to a computer keyboard or a race track. ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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I'll deal with you later ;)
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I gotta say a big public thank you to Noel who's lent me a couple of bikes so I can ride the titles. I'll be there with bells on riding Pre 78 125 and Pre 78 Over 250. 81 entries in solos isn't huge but there are enough bikes to fill the grids with many classes running heats, so it looks like being a pretty reasonable meeting. I haven't ridden a big old XT500 for a while now so will be fun trying to get the hang of it again. From what I can see there are a few fast boys in that class so I should get a box seat to watch them!!
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I'm heading down to Canberra to check out the Nats so can somebody give me an address that I can load into my GPS or good directions on how to find the track please?
It's a shame (and disgrace) that the entries are down but I'm sure the 'true believers' that have supported the meeting will put on a good show and enjoy the event for what it is, our sports holy grail.
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Mark, it's shown on Google Maps as Canberra Speedway, Canberra International Airport, Australian Capital Territory. It's pretty much at the corner of Sutton Rd and Pialligo Avenue, just on the outskirts of Queanbeyan.
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Head to the airport and before you get there if you come in from the back side, then its on Pallego road or similar name , its on the side of the hill , the entrance says something like fairburns park or lester edmonston.... turn into the right and into the gates and dirt roadway ---- any way if you see the go karts your on the right track, keep going up the hill and you will see the track !! see you there firko !!!
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I'll be there only on Saturday unfortunately.....I forgot all about Bathurst being on Sunday. If I wasn't relying on a mate for transport I'd probably stay for both days but unfortunately that's the way the cookie crumbles.