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Marque Remarks => Yamaha => Topic started by: paul on April 05, 2008, 09:42:16 am

Title: any body been watching this
Post by: paul on April 05, 2008, 09:42:16 am
 this bike has been listed about 5 or more times price goes up then it goes missing then  a buy it now then goes missing then who forken knows what/ it must be very frustrating for the bidders but we all know the ossa phantom story so i wonder what s the go   with this one mmmmmmmmmmm
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Yamaha-YZ-250-B-1974-vmx-classic-collectable_W0QQitemZ120241533900QQihZ002QQcategoryZ102690QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: any body been watching this
Post by: Tony T on April 05, 2008, 09:51:03 am
I think that's the same guy that had the XL350 not so long ago. It 'sold', then appeared a few weeks later again. It had no reserve but one bidder bid  a few times and the price went up every time.
Dunno, how that works, but I'd be veeeerrrry careful.................
Title: Re: any body been watching this
Post by: Maico31 on April 05, 2008, 12:45:05 pm
The guy is a goose.. he does that everytime he advertises something. I wouldn't bid on anything he has, it's likely to disappear forever.
Title: Re: any body been watching this
Post by: cyclegod on April 05, 2008, 01:29:48 pm
The guy is a goose.. he does that everytime he advertises something. I wouldn't bid on anything he has, it's likely to disappear forever.

Perhaps he fakes the auctions to give his insurance company an idea on the bikes "real" value for "agreed value" cover. Then there will be a tragic and mysterious incident where all the bike get destroyed in a fire or stolen followed by a lot of rare part auctions  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: any body been watching this
Post by: Wombat on April 05, 2008, 02:06:00 pm
Perhaps he fakes the auctions to give his insurance company an idea on the bikes "real" value for "agreed value" cover. Then there will be a tragic and mysterious incident where all the bike get destroyed in a fire or stolen followed by a lot of rare part auctions  ;) ;) ;)
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I just don't think like this; but it's a great idea for the devious.
Title: Re: any body been watching this
Post by: Rossvickicampbell on April 05, 2008, 03:09:14 pm
thats interesting - I am one of the bidders on this last time out.  It is frustrating as it started out no reserve but with a high starting price - no bids - then became a reserved auction and got several bids up to nearly $6K (all during the same time frame the first one hadn't finished).  It didn't make reserve even though it had been dropped a couple of times.  Then it comes back on with a slightly lower buy it now.

I also would of thought that the seller would of realised that it isn't going to sell at $7.5K - most of the interest stops just short of $6K.  He appears to be trying every avenue to get around $7.5K and I dont think that is going to happen?

Rossco
Title: Re: any body been watching this
Post by: paul on April 05, 2008, 03:31:17 pm
if you look at the ossa phantom thread here some were it was the same  and apparently the seller is a let me say  a bit of a rogue   so to speak ( cant find the ossa phantom thread)
Title: Re: any body been watching this
Post by: bigk on April 05, 2008, 05:49:11 pm
I am no Yamaha expert, so I pose the question as to what it actually is? I thought a YZ250B was 1975, may be wrong though. Anyone know for sure?
Cheers,
K
Title: Re: any body been watching this
Post by: Maico31 on April 05, 2008, 08:32:54 pm
Bigk the YZB's are a '74 model. I know that because i saw Trevor Flood win a big international race here on the Gold Coast in mid '74 on a YZ360B. There were a couple of other riders on B models also, i still have the race program here.
Title: Re: any body been watching this
Post by: firko on April 05, 2008, 09:37:31 pm
YZBs are legal for the pre 75 class. Until about 10 years ago they weren't accepted but there was a concerted challenge made by a bloke named Jody Mason to allow them into the pre 75 class and it was upheld. Ironically, Mason never raced his YZB and was never heard from again.
Title: Re: any body been watching this
Post by: paul on April 06, 2008, 02:43:18 am
another  change
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Yamaha-YZ-250-B-1974-vmx-classic-collectable_W0QQitemZ120242955084QQihZ002QQcategoryZ102690QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: any body been watching this
Post by: YZ360A on April 06, 2008, 07:29:24 am
GOOD OLD WHEELER DEALER.

THIS IS A $6500 DOLLAR BIKE NO MORE.

CYA ADAM
Title: Re: any body been watching this
Post by: Freakshow on April 06, 2008, 10:44:49 am
been watching it too, but it has been listed so many times in so many ways im getting confused with the reserve versus the buy now versus the list price and its like the 4th time i n3 weeks its been relisted one with 3 day listing. .... my head hurts.

CAn i throw another one out there ?  What do folk think of the sub prime knock on ? if any.  I have noticed in the last month some very tasty and well priced units surfacing in the US for sale, and at lower prices than they were 6 months ago, so my question, is the market softening and will we see that flow on here, and saying so will we see not only more come out of hiding but at a lower value ?  and also some colectors re jigg there collections ?

Personally i think we will see more on the market shortterm but Good special bikes will stilll hold there value, but im thinking the more normal units will be cheaper than we have seen in the past.

So is it a good time to hold out for the right ones ? but a bad time to clear the shed of the also rans ?  im interested to see what the market is saying as you guys are it  :-X
Title: Re: any body been watching this
Post by: mx250 on April 06, 2008, 12:24:52 pm
Its a strange bike. Seems partly restored but reflects a restored price. I wouldn't want to pay anything for it until I'd had been up close and personal  ;) ;D. Particularly the engine.
Title: Re: any body been watching this
Post by: mainline on April 06, 2008, 04:06:40 pm
Freaky,

I don't know if this is a good indication of what's going on the the States re prices. This one is at the crazy end of the scale. Looks like Bono and the Edge gave it a good flogging.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1978-Yamaha-Yz-125_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ34284QQihZ016QQitemZ260225517606QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
Title: Re: any body been watching this
Post by: Rossvickicampbell on April 06, 2008, 04:19:21 pm
I would of thought around $6K would of been OK if it was as nice as the pictures look but then thats a chance you always take with Ebay.  the $7.5K or thereabouts he is after is more than I paid for my 360B!

Rossco
Title: Re: any body been watching this
Post by: paul on April 06, 2008, 04:31:34 pm
i would put  a  certain      ebay sellar on the 10 foot barge pole  list
Title: Re: any body been watching this
Post by: Rossvickicampbell on April 07, 2008, 01:34:39 pm
well at least it looks like it will sell this time - no reserve and no inflated starting price and currently sitting at $6.7K - still a bit high for me?

Rossco
Title: Re: any body been watching this
Post by: paul on April 07, 2008, 03:59:13 pm
i will bet he pulls it off when hes not happy with the price ;)

shit i just read that again GUILTY   
Title: Re: any body been watching this
Post by: Tim754 on April 07, 2008, 06:12:32 pm
And the bids are they a for real fair deal????  :-[ >:(
Title: Re: any body been watching this
Post by: mx250 on April 07, 2008, 07:11:54 pm
Are we looking at the same item. Passed in, no bids, starting price $6750, reserve not met, Buy Now $7390.

Auction over, no bids  ::).
Title: Re: any body been watching this
Post by: Maico31 on April 07, 2008, 07:20:52 pm
Get with it, that was a couple days ago. Starting price and reserve due to change again any time now...
Title: Re: any body been watching this
Post by: mainline on April 07, 2008, 07:41:06 pm
has he done it again????
Title: Re: any body been watching this
Post by: paul on April 07, 2008, 07:48:22 pm
there was one off these bikes advertised in the melb trading post about a month ago   3300.00  i think it was .the add ran for 2 weeks and then it finished  it was for sale in  somewere like frankston or langwarren   or mornington .  or tyabb,   i read it  and said mmm thats cheap  so i wonder if its not the same bike  with a quick spruce up  ,stranger thing have happened ;)
Title: Re: any body been watching this
Post by: GMC on April 07, 2008, 10:57:18 pm
there was one off these bikes advertised in the melb trading post about a month ago   3300.00  i think it was .the add ran for 2 weeks and then it finished  it was for sale in  somewere like frankston or langwarren   or mornington .  or tyabb,   i read it  and said mmm thats cheap  so i wonder if its not the same bike  with a quick spruce up  ,stranger thing have happened ;)

I dont think it would be the same bike Paul. Wheeler Dealer spoke to me about this bike quite a while back, I thought he was going to ride it at Tassie.  He really needs to hang on to a bike & just ride but he changes them more often than I change my jocks, seems the grass is always greener on the other side.
Title: Re: any body been watching this
Post by: Quicksilver on April 08, 2008, 09:39:43 pm
I have had dealings with Dave. Purchased some parts off him. Spoke to him a few times. Cant understand the "going on's" his playing with this bike.. He seemed an ok sorta bloke. He does have a son. maybe his bike using dads ebay account! Whatever the score they certainly looking pretty silly at the moment.
Title: Re: any body been watching this
Post by: Rossvickicampbell on April 08, 2008, 10:51:28 pm
looks like it finally went for $7400 - good price if you were the seller I think?

Rossco