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Title: hybrids what have you got or seen
Post by: holeshot buddy on April 02, 2008, 11:13:42 pm
thought i would try a different subject ;D
i like em i think they are cool 8)
heres my bit
had a kx125a5 with a tm400 engine actual rider :o very ugly ::)
had a 75 cz125 with a rt360 yamaha engine went well even fitted 125 chamber on  8)
a friend has a ct125 engine in a cr125 76 model looks great 8)
a mate has a tt500 engine in a husky 430  cr frame 8)
i know shoey has one :D
i have my rm500 in 84 125 rm frame 8)
and my 06 kx450f with a kx500 engine 8)
you gotta luv them cool 8)
Title: Re: hybrids what have you got or seen
Post by: firko on April 03, 2008, 08:25:48 am
I love'em as well. I've built a few over the years and I still have a couple underway now. In the past I've built:
* An XL 250 powered Maico
*XL 350 powered CZ.
*XL 350 powered  Montesa King Scorpion/Cappra.
*Triumph 500 powered Bultaco M11 (Metisse). I also had a DT1 engine in that bike but it now is restored with the proper Bully engine.
*Triumph powered Cotton Cobra (now refitted with a Villiers engine)
*My DT1 from Hells frame is has the front half of an OSSA Stilleto frame grafted to the original Yamaha rear half.
I'm currently working on the Maico trials bike hybrid, Ducati powered Hindall and have a 650 Benelli engine destined for my Trackmaster flat tracker that originally held a Triumph engine.

Within the Klub Kevlar Network there is Edgar Phipps legendary 480cc XL powered Elsinore, his historic Triumph powered BSA (tribsa), Alan Jones' Yoshimura SL125 Honda powered Rickman Zundapp, and Peter Rowlands Yamaha MX250 powered Maico, all of which will be on display in the Kevlar Kompound at CD5.
Below is Jonseys trick little Yoshi SL125 Honda powered Rickman while under construction. It's now dripping in bling!
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/MYFSB-BXGQE-as1.JPG)
Title: Re: hybrids what have you got or seen
Post by: cyclegod on April 03, 2008, 08:35:00 am
My list of home-spun hybrids...

YZ125E with DT175 engine
YZ250 with XT500 engine
RM125 with XL185 engine
RG250 with RZ350 engine

and for eventual completion TM125 with TS185 engine
Title: Re: hybrids what have you got or seen
Post by: Tony T on April 03, 2008, 09:04:16 am
I don't know what it is about hybrids that's so cool, I love 'em too.
Only ever done one myself.
Had a spare PE250 chassis and a spare XT200 engine so they came together just because it was a cheap way to get a new bike and I had nothing better to do with my time.
Some hybrids were obviously built with a purpose in mind, like Mark's XL/CZ and Buddy's KX500/450 (which is just magnificent!) but others are just wrong...................  :D
And Mark, I've seen that photo of the XL/Rickman a few times. How about one of the finished product?  ;)
Title: Re: hybrids what have you got or seen
Post by: firko on April 03, 2008, 09:12:03 am
Tony, the bike has been sitting in the condition in the photograph for two years while Alan pursued other projects. Now with CD5 coming and the CCM project falling behind, he decided to finish the little Rickman for CD5. I was over at his place last Sunday and I had to put my Raybans on, the little bike was so blingy!. I'll run off some shots at CD5.
Title: Re: hybrids what have you got or seen
Post by: husky61 on April 03, 2008, 09:59:09 am
I like the Hybrids also

We have a 74 / 75 Cr /WR 250 Husky , fitted with a side port XL 250 motor.

It go's well and is complete , however it is very  rough and requires a good old tart up.

It will be finished and used for vinduro's. Who ever did the original mod's did an outstanding job

It is the next in line for the big tart up. End of Sept 08 it should be done.

Shoey
Title: Re: hybrids what have you got or seen
Post by: cyclegod on April 03, 2008, 10:16:04 am
Here's another hybrid from out west...

Title: Re: hybrids what have you got or seen
Post by: yzhilly on April 03, 2008, 11:08:03 am
Some nice ,some butt ugly but yeah i alway think ,mmm this thing handles good but it needs some grunt now what could i put in it !. Hey God luv the YZ500 have you still got how about a couple more shots ,i would like to see the engine fit.
Title: Re: hybrids what have you got or seen
Post by: cyclegod on April 03, 2008, 11:17:43 am
Quote from: yzhilly on April 03, 2008, 11:08:03 am
Some nice ,some butt ugly but yeah i alway think ,mmm this thing handles good but it needs some grunt now what could i put in it !. Hey God luv the YZ500 have you still got how about a couple more shots ,i would like to see the engine fit.

YZ/XT was a bike I had in NZ over 20 years ago, I made a mount for the rear of the motor similar to a YZ125E and used a BSA? oil tank mounted on the right hand side where the airbox was, it had an IT speedo Petty headlight and was street legal in NZ
Title: Re: hybrids what have you got or seen
Post by: yzhilly on April 03, 2008, 11:45:24 am
Cool i bet that was a lot of fun on the road . My YZ400E had the same light setup fitted to it when i got it ,i dont think it was ever regoed, just setup for enduro .
Title: Re: hybrids what have you got or seen
Post by: Rossvickicampbell on April 03, 2008, 02:19:10 pm
CG - that Hontaco fair flies - once up and running we dont see him?

 >:(

Rossco
Title: Re: hybrids what have you got or seen
Post by: Mike on April 03, 2008, 03:30:37 pm
Speak for yourself Ross, some of us can keep the Hontaco in sight.  I have seen its huge roost many a time out of slow corners,  I even passed it once in the main straight at Narrogin while mark was in the dirt with a broken collar bone.
Title: Re: hybrids what have you got or seen
Post by: husky61 on April 03, 2008, 03:48:39 pm
There are many hybrids in Queensland , they usually start out life as Victorians or New South Welshman.
Title: Re: hybrids what have you got or seen
Post by: cyclegod on April 03, 2008, 03:50:42 pm
Quote from: husky61 on April 03, 2008, 03:48:39 pm
There are many hybrids in Queensland , they usually start out life as Victorians or New South Welshman.

Don't forget the Kiwi's there too  ;D
Title: Re: hybrids what have you got or seen
Post by: firko on April 03, 2008, 05:00:48 pm
Hey Holeshot Buddy........That KX500/KXf hybrid is a ripper. I want one.
Title: Re: hybrids what have you got or seen
Post by: brent j on April 03, 2008, 08:20:27 pm
Where to start, some of my more memorable hybrids, some good some not.............

In the late 70’s, a TM125 with a TS185 motor

TL 250 Honda converted to 350

Short WB land-Rover fitted with a 283 Chev, then converted to forward control.

Mark II Triumph fitted with a Toyota 5 speed box.

An original Forward control Land-Rover with a turbo charged 202 Holden running on gas, power steering and suspension mods.

Wrote off the above so fitted the running gear to a SWB L-R but added an auto trans and full coil spring suspension, power steering, disc brakes etc.


In Aust

74 F100, fitted 460 and C6, step-side tray and turned it into a convertible

Early TY250, fitted a monoshock rear end and disc brakes

And now, 1990 KTM 250 fitted with XR200 motor, my collection of XT500’s, and now I have enough parts to build another TM185.

Half of my XT’s are modified with different swingarms, forks, triple clamps, tanks etc but compared to some of the previous efforts, they are pretty tame.

I might add that growing up in NZ in the 70’s you could not buy much so you learned to make do. Also serving an apprenticeship as a fitter and turner you quickly learned that everything had to be made from scratch.

Cycle God where in NZ are you from? I’m from Wellington originally but been here 20 years now.

There was a XT powered monoshock YZ in Wgton in the late 70’s, it was built by Damon Gruenwald of Cycleworks, never saw it in the flesh, only piccies.

Brent
Title: Re: hybrids what have you got or seen
Post by: brent j on April 03, 2008, 09:23:49 pm
I saw a hybrid at CD3 that really impressed me.

A PE400 motor in a 92 RM125 chassis. All that smooth progressive power in a light responsive chassis.

To top it off it looked like it came out of a factory, exellent workmanship.
Title: Re: hybrids what have you got or seen
Post by: holeshot buddy on April 03, 2008, 09:27:59 pm
hey this is great keep them coming ;D
just remembered a couple of years ago i bought a yz125l with a cr480 engine it actually ran
used it for parts the guy i got it from said it went like shit in a straight line but would not go around corners ??? he fitted it because it is a lh chain drive, very ugly  :o
also had a 1t175 engine in a yz125L that went quite ok ;D
also i remember peter ploen had a kx400 engine in a kx250a5 that was a weapon
wonder where it is now 8)
and of course marty moates rm250 with 500 engine i think done by motosport suzuki 8)
something about them when you get them right they are unreal
like my 450/500 its a profesional job and is very trick has rg3 triples pulled in 25mm
billet hinson clutch hydralic clutch v force reeds pro circuit system billet rear linkage 08 specs
etc etc the list goes on
but to ride is unreal  have had 500s for over24 years and this thing is great
modern handling and brakes and suspension with killer motor
would back it against any modern 4 stroke
you know the funniest thing i noticed its hard to wheelstand just wants to hook up and go
must be the chassis design cause all my other 500s are hard to keep front end down
third gear starts no problemo vvverryy quick ;D
Title: Re: hybrids what have you got or seen
Post by: Tim754 on April 03, 2008, 10:38:15 pm
Remember a Velocette powered Metisse? from earlier days here at Ravenswood. Hope someone has a photo of it as mine were lost in a fire. It was pure artwork........ And the picture of the Can/Am with the triple 750 Kawasaki engine ,what a player that fella was!!!! Me I may still got the parts I believe from my old Honda XL250 that I fitted with a 500/4, it was an umm different experience to ride, won't rebuild as the four straight out upswept pipes would annoy the noise police.... Stuff it I got a few 754 engines that need a new life  ;) ::) :D
Title: Re: hybrids what have you got or seen
Post by: firko on April 04, 2008, 12:01:32 am
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/ric_velo1.jpg)
Here's a Velo Metisse I photographed in the USA Tim. I agree, it's a nice conversion
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/jolley.jpg)
Mike Jollys Honda powered Maico
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/minibike.jpg)
The ultimate pitbike, a TT500 powered Deltex, Deckson or whatever. Frightening!
Title: Re: hybrids what have you got or seen
Post by: cyclegod on April 04, 2008, 12:17:02 am
I'm a little embarassed to mention this one hybrid I had a hand in making, it was TS125 powered bathtub three wheeler and when I say bathtub I mean a forkING BATHTUB. An enamel steel 2 metre long bathtub with the TS frame/front end welded at the shallow end and the motor/tank and axle at the plug hole end with two morris minor seats bolted to the bottom. It was street legal and used for telethon fundraising ( its quite suprising how many people are willing to throw in a few coins to two idiots cruising the streets in a bathtub while wearing WW1 fighter pilot outfits)
Title: Re: hybrids what have you got or seen
Post by: GMC on April 04, 2008, 07:38:51 am
I once bought a KL engined KX 125, a guy from a Kawasaki dealership sold it to me & everything on it was like brand new.

I also heard of a couple of guys named Sten & Torsten who apparently did a very professional job of slipping a TT500 motor into a Husky Frame fitted with YZ400 forks & wheels & YZ 125 seat & tank.



However neither were any match for a TS 125 powered bathtub
Title: Re: hybrids what have you got or seen
Post by: Quicksilver on April 04, 2008, 08:04:45 am
Quote from: firko on April 04, 2008, 12:01:32 am
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/minibike.jpg)
The ultimate pitbike, a TT500 powered Deltex, Deckson or whatever. Frightening!


Bloody hell.  ???
Title: Re: hybrids what have you got or seen
Post by: mx250 on April 04, 2008, 08:06:09 am
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/minibike.jpg)
Phhh! Now get serious Firko. How about a 750cc two stroke triple with chambers.

(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l187/mx250a/H2_mini_drag_gr.jpg)
Now that will get you to the hot dogs stand in a harry. Or maybe hospital  ;D.
Title: Re: hybrids what have you got or seen
Post by: mx250 on April 04, 2008, 08:12:51 am
Quote from: Tim754 on April 03, 2008, 10:38:15 pm
........ And the picture of the Can/Am with the triple 750 Kawasaki engine ,what a player that fella was!!!!

Just for Tim....

(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l187/mx250a/6e151f3a.jpg)
Title: Re: hybrids what have you got or seen
Post by: holeshot buddy on April 04, 2008, 08:53:59 pm
that canam is psyco i love it i have one of them in my shed ???
giving me some ideas ;D
Title: Re: hybrids what have you got or seen
Post by: firko on April 04, 2008, 10:31:04 pm
How about a Harley powered bar stool.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/barstool.jpg)
Title: Re: hybrids what have you got or seen
Post by: zorroz on April 05, 2008, 02:04:01 am
Quote from: holeshot buddy on April 02, 2008, 11:13:42 pm
and my 06 kx450f with a kx500 engine 8)

Did you build the KX yourself? I just finished this year a 99 CR250 with CR500 motor. Found a KX500 powered KX80 on ebay a while ago would have been a wild ride!

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/zorroz/2.jpg)

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/zorroz/03_12_sb.jpg)
Title: Re: hybrids what have you got or seen
Post by: STW996 on April 05, 2008, 09:43:43 am
Hear is Darren Brown's Yamaico from Brisvegas Maico frame with kitted Yamaha motor looks the goods and goes like a train. Check out the work on the swingarm and all the little custom parts he has made. Will be at CD 5 ;D

Shane
Title: Re: hybrids what have you got or seen
Post by: STW996 on April 05, 2008, 09:46:52 am
Brownie's Yamaico other side
Title: Re: hybrids what have you got or seen
Post by: holeshot buddy on April 05, 2008, 06:08:59 pm
i saw that kx80/500 crazy stuff :o
a mate in melbourne built the bike very proffesional job
i have worked on crs like yours there is a couple up here ;D
a guy in mackay imported an af cr500 from states think it cost $15000.00 :D
another mate has a kx250 04 with 500 engine as well 8)
Title: Re: hybrids what have you got or seen
Post by: mx250 on April 06, 2008, 06:09:23 am
What do you get when you cross breed a skateboard, a stationery engine, a turbo charger, an intercooler, some Nos, a pair of handlebars, a little ingenuity and two wheels?

(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l187/mx250a/282_06.jpg)

A form of insanity  ;D