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Clubroom => Tech Talk => Topic started by: Bitten on May 14, 2012, 09:27:21 am
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Some times you charge ahead in a mad rush and just make things worse!
I wanted to clean up the RM465Z on Saturday after a recent ride on a friend farm and didn't have a lot of time so pulled off all the plastics and the exhaust (I needed to clean this up to stop surface rust as its a GMC in raw metal)
Anyway to cut it short I was splashing the hose around with some fervour before realising that I didn't block up the exhaust port and there is no telling how much water got in.
Then I think to myself no issues I will just drain the oil and all will be sweet, put it all back together, drain the oil - no water in it and was thinking disaster averted!
Then half way through mother day lunch the penny dropped!
What is the best way to go about this
1. Try and start it
2. Pull the spark plug out and invert it
3. Other??
Also will I need to do any remedial work on the crank or anything else
Yours in stupidity
Bitten
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Blast in some CRC water disspersent and invert it, then slowly crank it over to get the last of the water out. Reassemble and tow start it as they are a bitch to restart once wet internally.
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Basically the same as drowning an enduro bike in a creek.
Plug out
Spray the be-jeezus out if it
Flip bike over onto seay and bars
Prod thru a few times to blow excess out
Flip back over, plug back in-check you have spark 1st
Kick her in the guts and hope you are still on your minute :D
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Basically the same as drowning an enduro bike in a creek.
Plug out
Spray the be-jeezus out if it
Flip bike over onto seay and bars
Prod thru a few times to blow excess out
Flip back over, plug back in-check you have spark 1st
Kick her in the guts and hope you are still on your minute :D
Yep, been there, done that.
Also in your favour is a 50 / 50 chance the piston may have been down which would have closed off the port and it may be that stuff all water actually went in.
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I wanted to clean up the RM465Z on Saturday after a recent ride on a friend farm and didn't have a lot of time so pulled off all the plastics and the exhaust (I needed to clean this up to stop surface rust as its a GMC in raw metal)
Looks to me it was all Geoffs fault ;) :D
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Geoff, doesn't the piston have to be up to close off the exhaust port?
Cheers, Grahame
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Looks to me it was all Geoffs fault ;) :D
Careful Paul, your starting to sound like my wife ;D
Geoff, doesn't the piston have to be up to close off the exhaust port?
Cheers, Grahame
Yes, of course. (insert slaps head icon)
You obviously have too much time to sit & think. :D (hows the healing process going)
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reminds me of a funny story from years back......A mate was washing his scooters after a good days racing when he gets a 'phone call (pre mobile days-so a fair while ago) so he hands the running hose to junior(about 5 or 6yrs old)((must have been bloody ages ago-pre water restrictions)) and goes to the 'phone saying "just hose them off for me little mate."
He returns 10 mins later to see the boy holding the hose in the exhaust with water going everywhere-he had "filled all the bikes up-FOR DAD".
Jeez-it's hard to get good kids- isn't it? :D :D
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there is no telling how much water got in.
13hour old 2stroke and we also are stumped how there is a water mark 2" high on the crank case inside cover..Found before more than 1k damage..Condensation/High pressure water/how did it get passed the fat pipe when its run quiet often ? ? getting photos sent through..Anyway its done now and time to move on and be more aware.cheers a
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Careful Paul, your starting to sound like my wife ;D
Sounding like EVERYONES wife
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Thanks Guys
I will get onto it
No blame to Geoff his pipe is still a work of art
Knowing I am not alone makes me feel a bit better but then again EML, I guess I have the mechanic nous of a 6 year old!
Cheers to all
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as a 4yo i used to fill the petrol tank with water on my builder fathers villiers powered concrete mixer,after all id seen him pour a clear liquid in it many times ;Danyway to sort that out he put an electric motor on it
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Was he trying to electricute you Matt??? (that'll teach the little bugger) :D
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My young bloke washed the engine of my 610 Husky via the muffler too! Must be a kid thing. :-\
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Just went through the procedure as per above and not a lot came out, she fired up 4th kick so all is well
Thanks to all for taking the time to respond
Cheers!!
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nah - I agree with Canam - if Geoff bothered to finish off his products - ie painted etc this wouldn't have happened.
Shame geoff!!!!
;D
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It’s for the like of Rossco and CanAm that I have had to include warning labels now so I have been researching some warnings that may be suitable for them…
Warning: This product can burn eyes."
Do not use in shower."
Do not use while sleeping or unconscious
Do not place this product into any electronic equipment
This product is not to be used in bathrooms
Caution! Contents hot
Do not use orally
Do not use for drying pets."
Keep out of reach of children and teenagers
Do not use intimately
For indoor or outdoor use only
Product will be hot after heating
Warning: Misuse may cause injury or death."
Not to be used as a personal flotation device."
Not dishwasher safe
Turn off motor before using this product
Do not use orally after using rectally
But I guess all they really need is...
Not suitable for children aged 56 years or less
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Warning: Misuse may cause injury or death."
Maybe this should have read;
"Warning: Missus may cause injury or death."
:o
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As for warning signs we had a sign in our workshop at work, that stated.
(WARNING THIS SIGN HAS SHAPE EDGES)
Getting back to the origanal post. The piston in a single cylinder engine should always stop when the compression in the cylinder over comes the inertia of the crank/piston, therefore the exhaust port/valves should always be closed when you stop an engine. I never block the exhaust when I'm washing my bikes I just start and run them to make sure that, all is sweet.