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Title: One jump and fast flowing~1976 AMA.
Post by: VMX247 on May 11, 2012, 10:02:08 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zifHMAqJ2GE&feature=related
Title: Re: One jump and fast flowing~1976 AMA.
Post by: John Orchard on May 12, 2012, 01:48:19 am
Fantastic, love it!!!  :-)
Title: Re: One jump and fast flowing~1976 AMA.
Post by: firko on May 12, 2012, 10:32:05 am
I was there....if you look closely you might just see me ::). That was one of the last big races at Saddleback from memory.
Title: Re: One jump and fast flowing~1976 AMA.
Post by: JohnnyO on May 12, 2012, 10:52:23 am
Great stuff.. Yeah i saw you Firko! Most of the sports legends from the 70's are in that one.
Saddleback was still going in the 80's, who could forgey the infamous ramming battle between Hannah & Howerton in '81..!
BTW there's a lot more than 1 jump on Saddleback  :)
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Post by: oldfart on May 12, 2012, 11:26:13 am
What's  riding without a helmet  @ 3.28 - 3.35   ???
Title: Re: One jump and fast flowing~1976 AMA.
Post by: firko on May 12, 2012, 12:30:30 pm
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Saddleback was still going in the 80's, who could forgey the infamous ramming battle between Hannah & Howerton in '81..!
You're right John, Saddleback actually closed in '84 but by then its better days were behind it. I remember that there were a shitloads of lawsuits over accidents that eventually caused the operators to bail out.

I loved the place..it was a bit of a dusty shit hole but when I look back so were Indian Dunes and Carlsbad. On any weekend at Saddleback or the Dunes hundreds of riders would be seen cutting lap after lap so you can imagine the condition of the place. I even raced there a couple of times, but on the shorter Shadow Glen track. It and the GP track always bumpy and rutted, even for the big races. 
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What's  riding without a helmet  @ 3.28 - 3.35
It looks like Marty Smith and possibly Hanna riding back to the pits helmetless. It looks like most of the video is filmed in practice
Title: Re: One jump and fast flowing~1976 AMA.
Post by: KB171 on May 12, 2012, 01:13:42 pm
What's  riding without a helmet  @ 3.28 - 3.35   ???
Roger Decoster on #104 I'd rekon.
Title: Re: One jump and fast flowing~1976 AMA.
Post by: JohnnyO on May 12, 2012, 01:17:20 pm
I'm jealous Firko, would love to have been stateside in the 70's/'80's.
I think you'll find the helmet less riders are on a parade lap, even decoster is amongst them..
Title: Re: One jump and fast flowing~1976 AMA.
Post by: KB171 on May 12, 2012, 01:21:40 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_n2m0N3LpQ&feature=related
This's worth a look in my books 8)
Title: Re: One jump and fast flowing~1976 AMA.
Post by: JohnnyO on May 12, 2012, 01:28:52 pm
That's awesome KB..best track in the US. I'm heading there in August for the AMA National
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Post by: firko on May 12, 2012, 01:38:18 pm
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I'm jealous Firko, would love to have been stateside in the 70's/'80's
Yeah John it was a great time to be there as a motocross fan. I lived there from '75-80 and I reckon those years were the golden years of American motocross. They were just emerging as a threat to the Euros and there were more dead set legends from that era than any other.
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Post by: JohnnyO on May 12, 2012, 01:43:55 pm
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I'm jealous Firko, would love to have been stateside in the 70's/'80's
Yeah John it was a great time to be there as a motocross fan. I lived there from '75-80 and I reckon those years were the golden years of American motocross. They were just emerging as a threat to the Euros and there were more dead set legends from that era than any other.
A golden era for sure! You would've been able to see all the top Euros as well...
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Post by: Davey Crocket on May 12, 2012, 02:11:30 pm
Cool vid....was that Jim Pommeroy on 102 the Honda John?
Title: Re: One jump and fast flowing~1976 AMA.
Post by: Tahitian_Red on May 12, 2012, 02:14:59 pm
I love this video!  I modeled my current Pre-78 YZ400 after Bob Hannah's '76 Trans-AMA bike.  It appears at around 2:15
 ;D
Title: Re: One jump and fast flowing~1976 AMA.
Post by: VMX247 on May 12, 2012, 02:58:28 pm
BTW there's a lot more than 1 jump on Saddleback  :)

Just the liquid one in the first 10 seconds of flick... :P
Don't see sweet mid size jumps like that one around :) Just lipped up jumps that catapultes the bike and rider 100m plus onward.
Golden Era  8)
Title: Re: One jump and fast flowing~1976 AMA.
Post by: JohnnyO on May 12, 2012, 03:16:17 pm
Cool vid....was that Jim Pommeroy on 102 the Honda John?
Yeah mate that's Pomeroy. Interesting to see Rocket Rex on the factory Harley running around 5th right behind Tony D...OK i've got a soft spot for the Harleys :)
See how rough the track is for 1977!
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Post by: firko on May 12, 2012, 04:45:14 pm
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even raced there a couple of times, but on the shorter Shadow Glen track.
Ooops...My fuddled old brain's getting worse. I was out in the shed working on my Cheney and thinking of those days in the US when it flashed into my head that the Shadow Glen course was at Indian Dunes not Saddleback. There was a shorter course at Saddleback too but I can't remember what it was called.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFNjgj9ap9I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFNjgj9ap9I)
My favourite track from the California days was Corona Raceway. I've still got my finishers pin from the 1977 Pumpkin GP held over 20 laps on the full 7 mile track every Halloween. It was a real party event with some riders competing in costume and plenty of partying. I rode a Husky Auto that year and finished and a 360 Monty the following year but DNF'd with heat exhaustion. The event was sort of a cross between motocross and desert racing with a bit of flat track thrown in. It was "Rocket" Rex Staten's home track.
Title: Re: One jump and fast flowing~1976 AMA.
Post by: Canam370 on May 12, 2012, 10:13:26 pm
Thing I noticed most was the vast refinement and improvement of the bikes in just the one year '76 to '77! Still love the look of the '76 Kawasaki works bike.
Title: Re: One jump and fast flowing~1976 AMA.
Post by: pirie593 on May 17, 2012, 05:52:55 pm
Thing I noticed most was the vast refinement and improvement of the bikes in just the one year '76 to '77! Still love the look of the '76 Kawasaki works bike.

Ask a Honda rider about those years  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: GMC on May 17, 2012, 10:16:32 pm
My favourite track from the California days was Corona Raceway.

I spent 8 weeks in Corona, I still remember some Yanks asking where we were staying and looking at us in horror while replying “What, you traveled half way round the world to stay in Corona!!!”

It did have the benefit of having a MX / SX every Friday night. Gordon Ward was one local who had the track sussed and would win every night. Knowing the track was super important as the lights were almost non existent with some parts in complete darkness.
Leisky tried it one night, it was one of the few times when Leisky got beaten. His survival instinct saw that he never tried it again.


(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a393/gmcloa/USA%2085/USA-37-C.jpg)

57 - Dave Hammond
Title: Re: One jump and fast flowing~1976 AMA.
Post by: mainline on May 19, 2012, 04:24:21 pm
My favourite track from the California days was Corona Raceway.

I spent 8 weeks in Corona, I still remember some Yanks asking where we were staying and looking at us in horror while replying “What, you traveled half way round the world to stay in Corona!!!”

It did have the benefit of having a MX / SX every Friday night. Gordon Ward was one local who had the track sussed and would win every night. Knowing the track was super important as the lights were almost non existent with some parts in complete darkness.
Leisky tried it one night, it was one of the few times when Leisky got beaten. His survival instinct saw that he never tried it again.


(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a393/gmcloa/USA%2085/USA-37-C.jpg)

57 - Dave Hammond

'Flash' Gordon Ward, I've got a Sydney Supercross on VHS with him, JoJo Keller and Steve Martin (the other one) as the visiting American guests. Dack cleaned up I think? Very tight track though. Keller kept getting stuck in the tunnel ;D
Title: Re: One jump and fast flowing~1976 AMA.
Post by: GMC on May 21, 2012, 09:27:46 pm
'Flash' Gordon Ward, I've got a Sydney Supercross on VHS with him, JoJo Keller and Steve Martin (the other one) as the visiting American guests.

What year would have that been?
When I saw him in 85 he was extraordinary at the night races at Corona but he became a mere mortal at other MX events.
Title: Re: One jump and fast flowing~1976 AMA.
Post by: mainline on May 22, 2012, 05:43:06 pm
I think 86 when Leisk had gone to the US