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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: Lozza on March 20, 2008, 05:31:30 pm
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While I don't care much for any of those freestyle tossers, Travis seems to be a class act, not only can he race with the best of them,IIRC he was first to do the double back flip and a dab hand with a WRC spec rally car.If that isn't enough he manages to do all that without getting coloured in with 'tough stickers' , multiple piercings and faux 'bad attitude'.
However this little escapade pushes him way up the legend list.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB7xlNHjduo
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FFFFFFAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o :o :o
Hey imagine if the guy that has to hang onto him slips Travis a note along the lines of "So I understand you've been porking my missus...." ;D
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So many emotions and thoughts go through my head when it comes to Travis. He's definetely a legend. Also a mad man and a fool. I know its negative, but i cant see him making it past 30. He does too many crazy things to live a long life. He is playing russian roulette. I hope im wrong.
Having said that, i love his attitude and his infectious personality. He is cool without being a self absorbed wanker.
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i see travis as a racer not a daredevil crusty wannabe...ive got this old video tape of him racing the 125 nationals in 2001 on a track called unadilla he looks so smooth and in control he easily rounds up the 250 fours even on a underpowered 125 two stroke pinned wide open, it would have to be the best race ive ever seen..grant langstone and travis goin at it toe to toe in the first moto on the last lap..mike brown and ernesto fonseca bashing each other,then in the 2nd moto with a ten second lead on the last lap travis face plants it after hittin a false neutral and hands grant langstone the win... ive watched it so many times over and over hes just an amazing rider.
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Well there you go........... :-\
I had always written him off as another complete tosser after a stunt he pulled by dumping a bike into a bay somewhere. I think he got fined for polluting or something for that one.
But it seems there a more intelligent side to him from what you blokes are saying. Not for that jump out of the plane.
Good to hear.
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I suspect these adrenelin junky blokes like Pastrana all have some deep seated self image issues that need to be adressed. While I understand (and enjoy) many dangerous pursuits, jumping out of a 'plane in just a pair of boardies is just plain ego gone mad. Still, I suppose those who regard the Crusty Demons as sportsmen and Johnny Knoxville an actor would love this shit.
(I must admit however that Travis must have some big cajones to pull that one off, Red Bull or no Red Bull)
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Considering that he won the 125 National Championship, and the 125 East Supercross Championship, I think he's a few dozen notches above the typical Crusty Demon type who probably couldn't win a local beginner race.
I saw an interview with him regarding his rallying career, and how he's starting to do less and less MX stuff because of the mounting injury toll. He seems fairly articulate and normal. How this works in with jumping out of an aeroplane without a parachute i just don't know......
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You forgot to mentioned he killed a passenger in a stupid speed related car accident.
Amazing what you can do on coke.
As for the careful staged publicity/ego stunt ::).
Sorry. On balance the guys a goose, an 'Oxygen Thief' and wasted talent and probably a wasted life. Not worthy to stiff the steam off the morning piss of a 'D' grade club racer ;) :D
Laws of libel stop me saying what I'm really think of him ;) >:( ;D.
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what's the story on the car accident, hadn't heard about it.
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what's the story on the car accident, hadn't heard about it.
Opps. May have got the detail wrong; he seriously injured the passenger.
http://www.cyclenews.com/ShowStory.asp?HeadlineID=4914
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Yep....He's a tosser. A talented tosser for sure, but a tosser just the same. He suffers from a severe case of "look at me" fever that'll eventually take him out.
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you know you're getting old when....
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speaking off people who should know better troy crichtley was charged today after his stupid stunt killed 6 people
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That's a shame. I know Troy and I hope he gets through this one. It's a tragedy that six people had to die at a charity event of all things. I would have thought the organisers would be liable as well. Letting a 2000hp door slammer loose to do burnouts on a public street with no safety barriers was asking for trouble.http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2007/06/18/1182018967140.html (http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2007/06/18/1182018967140.html)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soxtQ2tMTf4&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soxtQ2tMTf4&feature=related)
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firko a few years back i was at calder for the harleytop fuel world champs and i was watching one of the hells angels team nitro harleys being started ,they sit them up on great big pieces off wood to keep the rear wheel off the ground .they fired it up and went to roll it forward of the stand /wood when the rider accidently give it a big rev ,it threw the block of wood staight out the back like a missile and it hit this guy behind the bike and snap both off his legs at the knees i will never forget that
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you know you're getting old when....
..... you're not dazzled by bright lights, razza maatang, hype and bling. You have a time tested value system and the courage and conviction to call a spade a freaking shovel and a hyped up egoist a freaking waste of space and an oxygen thief. ;D
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fair call, but you know what I'm saying. ;)
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Another waste of talent. Anthony Gobert comes to mind.
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The guy has no tats,is a tea-totaller from what I hear,is as fit as all F...,won an outdoor AMA title and is having a whale of a time,not to mention making a fair quid-I think I smell "Tall Poppies" in the air!
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me personally, i give Travis the thumbs up!
the amount of time and effort thats required to do some of the jumps he's capable of just reaks of commitment to his dream. the double backflip? who'd ever of thought that was possible.
welcome to 2008 folks! the world is an ever changing place and people like Travis don't come along everyday. he has something very valid to offer and i for one am enjoying it. given his loyalty to suzuki's, who knows, perhaps he could be the 2028 guest of honour at classic dirt!
i believe it was Rodger DeCoster who said, "let Travis be Travis"
who am i to argue...
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vandy010, you've won me with your argument, very convincing. I just can't see him living that long. I think I need to refer myself back to the "you know you're old" thread.
I'm going to go and have a Nana nap now.
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Have a look at his grand canyon jumps,Fair bloody effort i rekon 8)
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So does that make Evil a tosser 2 ??? hey look at me :-*
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I'd agree with those who think Travis might be a bit of a ego-freak, but he is something of a hero to me. Here is a guy who is so naturally talented that he can go fast on anything. I don't know if anyone noted his performance in Florida at the GNCC a couple of weeks back, but he was right with Knight and the other top guys for several laps and only his lack of race fitness let him down. He hasn't raced regularly for years, but he went out there and rode against some of the best off-road guys in the world and held his head high. He may have faded to something like 18th, but I doubt there's a guy on this forum who even at their best would have been able to do that.
When you factor in his performance in rally, in freestyle, in MX and SX, you have to admit this man is something special. He might not be perfect, but he is bloody good on a bike. If I had a quarter of his skills, balls and flair, I'd be a happy man.
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Not to mention youth, good looks and $$$$$$
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Who is Travarse Pastiebanana any way? Would he spend time in the dusty/muddy pits at your local Vmx meet? Do you think he would be bothered to be a guest of honour at CD5 just for the pleasure of it? Does he promote VMX ? Look i did see a bit of him when he was a damn fast youngster, that seemed to be enjoying the sport and competing hard but along comes the lets do biggy poo jumps and film them then carry on like pissed maggots all for dollars, Racing is now for great grandparents, we are super supeme super intelligent super risk taking "Freestyle" Champions... till you break your body badly once to many times in a crash or ten times more likely the drugs fork you up so your as wanted as yesterdays dogs vomit... but hey you have got all these rancid tats and scars to show for it..... I must be getting old if I am thinking like this...........
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It's the whole 'Jackass' movie type thing - it's Crusty Demons and Freestyle - it's Rap music and graffiti - it's mosh pits and Big Days out.
It's a generational thing; and Travis is a modern day legend for this generation.
A quick trip through history shows it's always been around.
Remember the 'Barn Stormers'? Those bi-planes they'd fly low across the the tarmac and slam into a ready built barn?
How about the person on top of the wings or dangling beneath the wheels whilst doing gymnastic moves two hundred feet above the ground?
I think that was back in the '20s.
How about going over Niagara Falls in a barrel?
Being shot out of a cannon?
Tight rope walking?
Houdini - handcuffed and locked in a box and dropped into deep water?
Evel Knievel and his jumps over buses and fountains?
There's many more but you get the idea.
Each generation has been impressed or shocked by each and every new dare or stretching of the boundaries.
Records are made and records are broken at all competitive events, regardless of the sport.
All of these things stretch the boundaries and they will continue to evolve.
I've seen footage of (or attended) all these things. I'm impressed and horrified depending on what's happening.
But let's remember there are people in society who think we are insane for riding motorcycles...am I right?
Each to their own.
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You know why he does it ? Because we all take notice ;) If thats what turns him on , let him do it. Would he do it without the publicity ? I doubt it.
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I'm sure you're right, and being human I bet he's even starting to believe his own hype. Which is why I agree with other posters that he may not live to be an old man. I've posted a poll at the top of the page - what do you reckon, will he get to collect his old age pension?
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It's the whole 'Jackass' movie type thing - it's Crusty Demons and Freestyle - it's Rap music and graffiti - it's mosh pits and Big Days out.
It's a generational thing; and Travis is a modern day legend for this generation.
A quick trip through history shows it's always been around.
Remember the 'Barn Stormers'? Those bi-planes they'd fly low across the the tarmac and slam into a ready built barn?
How about the person on top of the wings or dangling beneath the wheels whilst doing gymnastic moves two hundred feet above the ground?
I think that was back in the '20s.
How about going over Niagara Falls in a barrel?
Being shot out of a cannon?
Tight rope walking?
Houdini - handcuffed and locked in a box and dropped into deep water?
Evel Knievel and his jumps over buses and fountains?
There's many more but you get the idea.
Each generation has been impressed or shocked by each and every new dare or stretching of the boundaries.
Records are made and records are broken at all competitive events, regardless of the sport.
All of these things stretch the boundaries and they will continue to evolve.
I've seen footage of (or attended) all these things. I'm impressed and horrified depending on what's happening.
But let's remember there are people in society who think we are insane for riding motorcycles...am I right?
Each to their own.
An excellent summary Wombat.
Wombat you give a good explanation and put it in a histrocial context but guess what, none of them does it for me. I wouldn't go out of my way to watch or participate in any of it, I most certainly wouldn't pay for the pleasure. That might be 'old and boring' but guess what, I'm been 'old and boring' all my life.
It all lacks substance for me, I particularly rile against the stunts that involve gratuitous 'slapstick' destruction of things, stunts that confuse bravery with bravado and stunts that manipulate the viewer.
Gratuitous would be the summary; being without apparent reason, cause, or justification (leaving out publicity, self promotion and self gratification of course).
I also rile against the irresponsible media who hide behind the responsible media to purposely take advantage of the subterfuge to give credence to what otherwise would be a nonevent. In other words, the interlacing of publicity articles with serious newsworth articles - the Press are been manipulated, they know it, but hey, 'it sells'.
I also rile against the mindless mimicking and repetition and general 'giving credibility, substance and popular support' by individuals for such subcult icons.
Yes, I rile against whole lifestyle movements. I 'live and let live' but doesn't mean I can't let fly and call a spade a freaking shovel at times.
Its a tough job been Cultural Police, Thought Police and Good Taste Police all wrapped in one, but hey, someone got to do it ;D.
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No big deal with Travis.
Thumbs up for his conviction / addiction to adventure.
You gotta love jumping out of planes. (Put in on your bucket list)
People like Travis only do the things they do because they can. Not for the publicity or for your pleasure or what ever reaction you may have. The publicity only comes mainly because he is public property (per say). Having said that they usually do it even if there is no payment attached.
You will find if you take away the camera he will still make the same attempts , its the way he's wired.
Power to Travis and his spirit of adventure.
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OK - I've read all the posts and now it's my two bob's worth.
I agree that the Pastrana phenomena is a generational thing but I thing it is more than that.
Travis and Robbie Maddison and many other extreme sport type people represent all of us. They are the kind of individuals who do the crazy stuff that many of us wish we had the ability, the balls and at times the stupidity to have a go at but never do.
When we are rocking back and forth at the St Andrews Home for Sterile Old Men it would be good to think that we at least had a go at doing our best and did a few exciting things along the way. Maybe we can't do what Travis can do but guys like him show us that you can extend yourselves and live an action packed life, even if it doing your best at the back of the pack just having fun. I work with one of the worlds dullest firemen whose biggest thrill is doing some hot laps with his AFX slot car in his garage while most of us have our sheds cluttered with bikes in varying stages of rebuild etc etc -this sad prick won't even take his little boy to the Easter Show or bung on an easter egg hunt!!! More power to Travis, the tatted up Crusty guys and others I say!
While on the 'extreme' thing, and with CD5 approaching quicker than a 490 Maico on full noise spare a thought for some other guys who put themselves right 'out there'. Friday the 25th of April when CD5 kicks off is also ANZAC Day, so while we assemble for three days of mayhem take time out to think of those guys who went to war for us so we could enjoy all the things we do!
THEY were the ones who knew what 'Extreme' REALLY means.
Lest We Forget.
See at the Terrace,
Dave Mac
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Fuggin' good on 'im :) :) :)
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Was just surfing the web looking for articles on fitness and stumbled on some info about rowing machines.
They had a 500 metre rowing challenge with the times from athletes of lots of sports. They didn't say what sports all the people are from but I recognised the following names.
1st Travis Pastrana
9th Ben Townley
11th Dan Reardon
20th Ricky Carmichael
21 Nicky Hayden
23 Jeff Ward
Can't knock his committment.