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Title: Name that bike.....
Post by: mx250 on March 19, 2008, 08:15:59 pm: (http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l187/mx250a/DSCF0541-1.jpg)

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: firko on March 19, 2008, 08:31:02 pm: Cool thing. It's got a Kohler Snowmobile motor in it by the look of it. I love stuff like this.
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Post by: holeshot buddy on March 19, 2008, 08:41:14 pm: i want one 8) is it a canam ???
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Post by: mx250 on March 19, 2008, 09:16:48 pm: Quote from: firko on March 19, 2008, 08:31:02 pm
Cool thing. It's got a Kohler Snowmobile motor in it by the look of it. I love stuff like this.
I could see the K-O-H-L-E-R on the side of the motor but had no idea it was a snowmobil engine.

I could have used the other side but that would have given the game away ::).

(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l187/mx250a/DSCF0544.jpg)
Title: Re: Name that bike.....
Post by: mx250 on March 19, 2008, 09:19:09 pm: Quote from: holeshot buddy on March 19, 2008, 08:41:14 pm
i want one 8) is it a canam ???
More like a Rokon ;) ;D
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Post by: pokey on March 19, 2008, 09:59:05 pm: yerp Rokon was the name that crossed my lips then i seen that front end and Greeves popped in , That belt drive has to be Rokon
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Post by: mx250 on March 19, 2008, 11:08:52 pm: Its a Holder....

(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l187/mx250a/DSCF0551.jpg)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HOLDER-250-Motorcycle-Very-Rare-mx-dirt-bike_W0QQitemZ120232371413QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item120232371413

The ad gives no info. I don't know if its a one off, prototype or small run. Although I'm betting a 'one off' with a very convincing lettering on the tank ;) :).

An interesting combination of some 'one off' engineering like the brake pedal, and some very dodgey details like the wiring.

Are they Greeves forks on home mades?
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Post by: Wombat on March 19, 2008, 11:13:33 pm: Is the carbie missing the top half - what is that?
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Post by: jimg1au on March 19, 2008, 11:58:41 pm: the carby is a pumper carb.i used to run one on my dt1mx in 1974,once tuned right it flew.
cheers
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Post by: firko on March 20, 2008, 12:13:16 am: I think it's a Walbro pumper.
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Post by: pokey on March 20, 2008, 09:22:50 am: Not much info but Rick "Super Hunky" Siemen has stuff on the HOLDER FIELD & TRIAL 133.
Made in the US of A and were a sports bike and pretty rare.

http://dirtbike.off-road.com/dirtbike/data/articlestandard/dirtbike/232006/331923/HolderFieldAndTrial133.jpg

Different engine to the above machine
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Post by: mike1948 on March 20, 2008, 06:04:11 pm: Not Greeves front forks, look rough & ready, probably home made

Mike
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Post by: Tim754 on March 20, 2008, 10:07:55 pm: Maybe a Tillitson pumper as fitted to a Kohler engine on the small transportable field bin grain auger in the farmers yard over the road. Looks very similar engine but mounted to a reduction box. The Holder.. Hmm in my opinion unique but just pus ugly and most likely ran and handled like that too. :D
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Post by: Wombat on March 21, 2008, 08:44:56 pm: Most noticably in the L/H photo, there'd be bugger all cooling to the fins - the barrel and head are (almost) completely encased/enclosed. ???
Is that typical of snow-mobile motors?
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Post by: paul on March 21, 2008, 08:57:47 pm: KOHLER MAKE INDUSTRAIL ENGINES THESE DAYS FOR THING LIKE STUMP GRINDERS PUMPS AND THE CARB ON THAT ONE IS DESIGNED TO RUN AT ALL SORTS OFF ANGLES . THAT ENGINES PROBABLY OUT OF A RIDE ON MOWER OR SOME THING SIMILAR .DOES SEEM TO FIT PROPERLY IN THE FRAME SO WHO KNOWS
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Post by: firko on March 21, 2008, 09:46:02 pm: Believe me Paul, it's out of a sixties snowmobile. My ex wife has one under her house. Same engine.