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Marketplace => eBay Finds => Topic started by: paul on January 25, 2012, 07:31:10 pm

Title: ow 51 frame
Post by: paul on January 25, 2012, 07:31:10 pm
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Yamaha-OW51-Frame-/170769864077?pt=AU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27c2ad558d
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: zorroz on January 26, 2012, 09:29:25 am
Bit sus?
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: mainline on January 26, 2012, 10:28:09 am
Probably someone who knows what they've got but isn't clued up on using ebay
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: smed on January 26, 2012, 10:55:50 am
I sent him a message asking for more info :)
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: paul on January 27, 2012, 11:57:59 am
the pics are now on the ebay add
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: number8 on January 27, 2012, 12:43:38 pm
That does'nt look lthe same as  an OW the swing arm and linkage dont look the same as an OW51

#8

http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Old-School-Moto,22/works-Yamaha-500-pics-needed,887710
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: motomaniac on January 27, 2012, 12:50:43 pm
That does'nt look lthe same as  an OW the swing arm and linkage dont look the same as an OW51

#8

http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Old-School-Moto,22/works-Yamaha-500-pics-needed,887710

Yer,very stock looking arm and linkage , don't remember any OW's like that.Maybe he should show the frame #
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: zorroz on January 27, 2012, 01:03:20 pm
I asked he said there are no frame numbers cause its a works frame  :D :D :D

Looks like a J model YZ to me  8)

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/zorroz/KGrHqFHJCkE8fYNUSgsBPIedktfk60_12.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/zorroz/KGrHqRHJBYE8e6VDu31BPIedEMsQQ60_12.jpg)
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: mainline on January 27, 2012, 01:16:40 pm
I asked he said there are no frame numbers cause its a works frame  :D :D :D

Looks like a J model YZ to me  8)

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/zorroz/KGrHqFHJCkE8fYNUSgsBPIedktfk60_12.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/zorroz/KGrHqRHJBYE8e6VDu31BPIedEMsQQ60_12.jpg)

mmm..yes

Anyway, I'm off to the shed to grind all the frame numbers off my bikes, increasing their value tenfold ;D
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: suzuki59 on January 27, 2012, 01:16:58 pm
Didnt Stephen Gall put his works engine into a YZ250 frame in 1983?Thats the only way I could see how it could possibly be referenced as a works frame I guess?
But #8 was around in the scene in those days so I will default to his feedback.
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: JohnnyO on January 27, 2012, 02:45:11 pm
Didnt Stephen Gall put his works engine into a YZ250 frame in 1983?Thats the only way I could see how it could possibly be referenced as a works frame I guess?
But #8 was around in the scene in those days so I will default to his feedback.
Gally put his works engine in a YZ465 chassis in 1981, the same year he campained the works bike at some races.
That frame/swingarm pictured doesn't look much like a works one to me...
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: suzuki59 on January 27, 2012, 02:56:46 pm
Agreed its obviously standard.I was trying to put a potential positive spin.
Hows the health John?
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: JohnnyO on January 27, 2012, 03:00:12 pm
Agreed its obviously standard.I was trying to put a potential positive spin.
Hows the health John?
Not too bad thanks mate.. still hoping for a bit more improvement though.
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: mainline on January 27, 2012, 03:00:44 pm
It's a 250j frame, I just had a look at the frame i've got in the shed
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: head on January 27, 2012, 03:16:04 pm
Definitely a 250J frame and swingarm. I have one the same.
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: smed on January 27, 2012, 03:17:43 pm
He also told me it is an ex Gally frame & that he worked for the Gall brothers & that he now had pics on ebay,when i looked at them i thought it was strange coz the OW51 pictures i had seen had a cantilever swingarm not linkage,looks painfully stock to me ;)
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: number8 on January 27, 2012, 04:19:41 pm
I think you will find this is Steve's OW from memory he never rode it much I think they had problems getting it set up and had an easier time with the 465 I may be wrong?


http://www.leguidevert.com/forum/lgv/2011/300624_3466_ow-51.jpg

#8
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: motomaniac on January 27, 2012, 05:21:19 pm
I think you will find this is Steve's OW from memory he never rode it much I think they had problems getting it set up and had an easier time with the 465 I may be wrong?


http://www.leguidevert.com/forum/lgv/2011/300624_3466_ow-51.jpg

#8

Na ,I think you're right .I think he tried the OW for a while but found that it was only better than the YZ on certain types of tracks and went back to the YZ. ???? Come in Johnny O .
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: mainline on January 27, 2012, 05:41:30 pm
Isn't the radiator spigot behind the steering head a giveaway?
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: suzuki59 on January 27, 2012, 06:19:33 pm
Not too bad thanks mate.. still hoping for a bit more improvement though.
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Pleased to hear it mate. :)

I seem to recall it was 1983 Gally ran the works engine in a YZ250K frame?
Heres the photo to prove it.

(http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu317/suzuki43/46479_1276471731069_1808276947_523020_7254618_n.jpg)
So unless he ran it in a 250J in 1982, its a firthy.

Over to you John.
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: 09.0 on January 27, 2012, 06:47:55 pm
Didnt Stephen Gall put his works engine into a YZ250 frame in 1983?Thats the only way I could see how it could possibly be referenced as a works frame I guess?
But #8 was around in the scene in those days so I will default to his feedback.
Gally put his works engine in a YZ465 chassis in 1981, the same year he campained the works bike at some races.
 
I think he answered that one.
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: NSR on January 27, 2012, 07:20:08 pm
81? Tivoli

(http://i712.photobucket.com/albums/ww125/NoelSR/MX0003.jpg)

82 AMX

(http://i712.photobucket.com/albums/ww125/NoelSR/MX0002.jpg)
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: JohnnyO on January 27, 2012, 07:43:23 pm
I can remember Gally running the OW at the Kentucky Fried Chicken mx at Windaroo in early '81 and also at Tivoli MR MX but later he went back to the YZ465 and even fitted the OW motor into the YZ for a while.
That pic of Gally on the '83 definately looks like the works engine, probably the same one but fitted to a '83 490 chassis by the looks.
He had that OW for a long time until selling it to a Qld collector in the late 90's
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: oldyzman on January 27, 2012, 07:46:55 pm
Hey Johnny, Does that same QLD collector have a pile of KX's also???
Brett
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: JohnnyO on January 27, 2012, 07:49:07 pm
Hey Johnny, Does that same QLD collector have a pile of KX's also???
Brett
Yes he does mate.. SR's in fact.
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: 2T_vs_4T on January 27, 2012, 07:55:06 pm
Looks like a 250 J frame with the outlet/inlet for the water cooling on the LHS of the steering head, but there is also a motor mount missing from the bottom frame rails.
(http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae213/2T_vs_4T/Image0408.jpg)
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: oldyzman on January 27, 2012, 10:23:01 pm
Yep Johnny,
I reckon he is a good fellow, looked after me very well with an A4 recently...
Brett
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: Ando on January 28, 2012, 07:08:57 am
Stock 250J frame, I don't even have to go to the shed for a look! :o
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: suzuki59 on January 28, 2012, 01:46:33 pm
Guys,refer page 15 of VMX magazine number 9 and the article on Galls 1981 OW51.
And I quote ....
"At the end of the highly successful 1981 season Steve put the OW(51) away in the corner of his workshop in Sydney.Its potent 498cc magnesium motor was removed and slipped into a production YZ250(J) frame,easily able to accomodate the OW motor because of its centre port/split frame configuration."
It could well be the real deal, albeit  its not a works frame,merely the place it resided in 1982. :)
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: number 87 on January 28, 2012, 02:41:11 pm
K Schwantz threw up all over my house . . . . . . . I wonder does that make it worth more.

#87
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: motomaniac on January 28, 2012, 08:38:51 pm
K Schwantz threw up all over my house . . . . . . . I wonder does that make it worth more.

#87

You haven't changed the carpet have you?
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: number 87 on January 30, 2012, 12:12:14 pm
Yeah i have. . . . tiled (party proofed) the whole place.

#87
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: VMX247 on February 03, 2012, 09:33:05 pm
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Yamaha-OW51-Frame-/170769864077?pt=AU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27c2ad558d


no bids
Title: Re: ow 51 frame
Post by: mainline on February 03, 2012, 10:24:44 pm
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Yamaha-OW51-Frame-/170769864077?pt=AU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27c2ad558d


no bids

I've got a Yz250J frame you can have for $400 ::)