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Marketplace => For Sale => Topic started by: rohan on January 22, 2012, 10:13:57 am
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1980 PE400 with RM 400 seat and tank
Bike in excellent condition. Ground up rebuild completed mid 2011. Bike ridden for approximately 3 hour since rebuild.
Engine professionally rebuilt including bottom end by Pro Kawasaki in Nerang Gold coast. Contact Peter from Pro Kawasaki to discuss.
Top end has standard bore – not oversize.
Engine is very crisp with great acceleration – very reliable fast bike.
Brand new items installed:
CDI Box – Factory PE400
Coil - Factory PE400
Throttle Control - Factory PE400
All Cables including brakes, acceleration, clutch - Factory PE400
New bearings throughout - engine, head set, Wheels
VM36 Mikuni Carburettor
Seat Cover
Plastics
Tank - Clark
Chain
Scott Grips
Brand new Works Performance shocks
Forks dismantled and inspected, new seals and boots installed.
Wheels stripped and re-spoked. Professionally trued.
Frame sandblasted
New Air Filter
Bike has factory exhaust and muffler. These items work well however as can be seen from the photos a new system would give greater aesthetic appeal.
Cost over $5000 to build
For Sale $4000 ono
Any Questions welcome
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Mate,
Great work on the resto...
Tim
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Well done, thats a nice looking bike and sounds like its in very good mechanical nic too.Good luck with the sale.
cheers Dale.
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RM = 417cc 5 speed kickstart
PE = 397cc 5 speed primary kickstart
I think Luke has a comparison test in one the mags on a dyno and the PE was no slouch up against the RM engine,infact i think it had more mid to top end.
I'll have to read up again on it.
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I think it was in this VMX issue.
https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=407d7ef0965d3991&sc=documents&id=407D7EF0965D3991%211086#cid=407D7EF0965D3991&id=407D7EF0965D3991%211336&sc=documents
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The PE400 was not based on the RM400N. The RM400 had no primary kick, long stroke, and bugger-all bottom-end. Instead, it was based upon the RM250/PE250, used its own hefty rod & piston, own barrel, etc.
The USA guys in Team Suzuki (John Morgan) at the time kept hankering for a bigger 250, so they asked for and got the PE400, which is a 5 speed, primary kick, with the same stroke as the RM250. Even the carby was kept as the VM36SS, as per the PE250, just with a different (2.0 vs 2.5) slide cutaway and a 6DH20 jet needle. (use the 6DH3 if you cannot find the 6DH20)
NO, the PE400 did NOT use the VM38. EVER. Only the RM465 and RM500 used the VM38.
Note also it has the hefty rotor/magneto (1192 gram) that the RM does not. In all, a pretty good engine with grunt and plonking power, and depending on who was measuring, near or more the same top-end power as the RM engine, despite being strangled.
The PE250/PE400 frame etc. are effectively identical, except for dampers, shocks, etc.
PE400T 85mm x 70mm (s) = 397.22
RM400C 80mm x 80mm (s) = 402.1
RM400N 80mm x 83mm (s) = 417.2
Ron Anchack has pistons and also has the SkiDoo 650 rod that is the only readily available alternative to the now rare -409 rod. Note that our own OldFart (Stewart) did all the sleuthing behind that rod and Honda shims, and a number of people on the PE list have successfully raced their PE400's with this rod. see: http://www.anchakandsons.com/pe400rodkit.html
Bucket loads of info on my skydrive
PE skydrive: http://cid-407d7ef0965d3991.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Pure%20Enduro
RM skydrive: http://cid-407d7ef0965d3991.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Racing%20Model
and the word direct to me from John Morgan was:
'From the “Suzuki News - Fall 78” quote: “Gary Edmond completed the Trial “on gold”, riding a PE 250 in the specialty machine-oriented 350class". This was our first effort in developing an engine for the PE 400. We had modified a PE 250 engine as a step towards the PE 400. Glad to get that straight--finally. We weren't talking about it so most of the publications had him listed as riding a PE 250.'
Lastly: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_PE_series
Luke
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contact details if still available please,
Cheers
Nick
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Hi,
Is this PE/RM still 4 sale.
Pls PM if so, may have interested party to have a look.
Baaarb
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I've checked this bike out in person and it's in excellent condition. It starts and runs beautifully as you would expect for a rebuilt motor with new carb and ignition. Probably as close to facory new as you will get in my opinion. He's spent a heap of $$ on it so it represents great value at his asking price.
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I know it's a very old post, anyone know if this bike (or something similar) is still available?
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/OzVMX/permalink/581708912011829/?sale_post_id=581708912011829 Did ya see the one Robz rides has JO :) Huge rear wheel travel ;)
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Hmmm dem shocks too long ;-) I liked the idea of a PE400 base bike; can put lights on and reg it, plus the PE engine gets a good rapp.
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What are the new shock options for these bikes?
Can you buy new Ohlins?
I assume the de rigueur Fox Air shocks are not available new any longer.
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You can new (reproduction) Fox airs now. Contact 'Flowerpotracing' on this forum. Hes in UK and has had all the parts made. Plus you got Thor and RCM in USA who also make most parts now and can do brand new bodies, shafts, end caps etc so realistically you could have an all brand new set if you really wanted.
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http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/suzuki-rm400-1980-nice-cond-vmx-/122042320663?hash=item1c6a4a0717:g:wq4AAOSwzLlXg0px
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hey john, just get a husky??? get all that and more :D ;D