OzVMX Forum
Clubroom => Introductions => Topic started by: wesley on March 09, 2008, 04:27:33 pm
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I have asked administration to delete me out of the system permanantly,i wish those i have made friends with all the best and enjoy this great sport,,,to the others that have been nothing short of insulting and rude you no who you are, should have a good think and a good look at yourselves,i have no desire to have anything to do with you grumpy jealous old pricks anymore,,,,,(jelousy is your worst enemy) get over it you only live once,,i will be present at certain race meets so to the smart ask pricks that like to use big insulting words i will let you know who i am at these events so you can personaly insult me to my face.........
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Sad to see you go Wes , never meet you personally , but perhaps catch up with you at CD 5 . Don't take it to seriously . It probably wasn't meant so harsh .( I personally thought things were getting a bit far, but Graeme set the mark ) There will always be people with bling bikes and people with scrubbers on this sport , but in the end they are all in it for one thing , and that is to get some enjoyment out of it.
Perhaps do what 414 and Clarence did , have a brake and come back when you are ready . See you around .Walter
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Hey Wes, looking over that last thread I think we can all understand why you're disillusioned and leaving the fold.
But in all honesty, I think some of those comments would not seem so harsh if they were spoken while we stood around a fire with beers.
The $120K thing would've caused a commotion with much banter to-ing and fro-ing across the group.
Many different reactions; but none would've had the impact of the written words in that last thread.
The downside to forums is the complete lack of facial expressions and body language to accompany the comments.
These signs play a huge part in determining 'attitude'.
An example: It's part of our Aussie culture to refer to a good mate as a bastard; but it's all in the way it's said.
As you say, you'll be attending some VMX events.
The sport has a hold on you - and everyone else on this forum.
I reckon Walter's right; have a breather and pls say gidday if we attend the same meet.
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Well said Walter and Wombat.Wesley the door is open look how many members this site has and how many replied to what you were talking about its a big room and it will never overfill if you know what I mean so don't close the door behind you mate. jimson
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Ditto all previous posts.
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Shame Wes, but I can understand that you would be upset by some of the insults thrown at you ,I thought this kind of forum was to share ideas ,opinions & thoughts not to insult & ridicule others who share the same intrests, The time if any for insults is when the person dishing them out has the guts to do it in the company of the person they are directed at & as one of the forum members said there are all types who read what is written here so I do believe we should keep that in mind when submitting our posts Cheers Lou .
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Sorry Wes, I just don't get it. You don't have to ask anyone permission to leave the forum (just don't open, read or reply). So why ask? Or more to the point why start a thread saying that you have?
Having a tizzy?, a little girlie moment?, trying to have the last say? Trying to hurt others feeling by laying guilt on them? (Yeah, thats gonna work with a bunch of 50yo blokes ::))
Storming to the moral highground before riding off in the warm glow of moral indignation?
Now I haven't followed in any detail or with too much concentration any thread with anything I would consider an insult to you or anyone else. Sure, from time to time there's strong personal remarks. But fark, we're rough tough and tumble dirt bikes riders and racers/ex-racers as well as blokes. If thats the worst that has happened to you you've done well. Shite, since I was about 5 an insult got something better back, the finger from me or something more physical. I never sooked about it or let it hurt me. Get over it, don't whinge to the teacher or your class mates.
But I have seen thinly disguised threat from you; publishing another's home address and implying threats. This behaviour is about the lowest of the low on about 10 different levels; from bad judgment to bad etiquette, to the old Maxim 'there are those that do and there are those that talk about it'. So if you have 'crossed swords' with others I wouldn't be surprised.
But if I was you I would be asking 'why' and who is causing the discord.
If you have been mortally aggrieved by the comments about the $120,000 Maico your answer would be one photo. Without even a word from you there would be egg on peoples faces from Perth to Penrith.
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I must have missed something as I not seen anything too over the top of late but then I do not read all postings. Shame it comes to this but as usual..three sides to the story, yours, theirs and the the truth that lay somewhere in between ;) it's your individual choice to participate in a public forum and you can expect criticism sooner or later be it warranted or unwarranted. I've had some and it did get me hot under the collar but when I cooled off I realized how silly I was..simply fix..ignore them and don't bite ;) no need to stigmatize the whole forum in general because of a said few and a few said comments..
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Some of the posts I edited Doc, some the people concerned later deleted.
Anyway, Wes has left us, he's off to sell his Maico, and we're all still here. And judging by the posts about the Coffs DT, and the photos from Nudgee and Wonthaggi, we're all in for a great 2008. And CD5 just round the corner.
Ahh, it don't get any better, hmm?
So, let's all move on and keep an eye on eBay for the photos of the Maico!
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I've been sitting here for an hour trying to decide how to word my reply to Wes's Sayonara post when along comes MX250 with my exact feelings. I'm one of the people who have doubted your sincerity with your new Maico claims Wesley. I'm a cynic by nature and your story of the poor farmer buying the bike for his son who subsequently died has the ring of an urban myth that has been going around for years [/url]http://www.snopes.com/[/url].
As I said in my post If you can prove your story I'll personally apologise to you both online and privately. If you can't bother to prove the claim, my original comments stand. Nowhere in my posts have I criticized you as a person as I'm certain that you are usually a nice bloke. Most folks involved in this sport of ours are good blokes and no matter how much we disagree with their particular philosophy, in the end we all have the common bond of loving old bikes.
Sure, some of the posts were a little over the top but by "outing" Snowys address you invaded a basic human right, Snowys right to anonymity, and you did it in a totally threatening manner. The threats as to "what you used to do for a job" conjure up something evil that has no place on a vintage motocross forum.
Lastly. If in fact the bike does exist, do you honestly think that you'll find someone crazy enough to throw $120000 at it? Do you think you are doing the sport and society at large a favour like the nong that was selling the two mini bikes for crazy money? Having a big hissy fit because a few people didn't believe you hurt nobody but yourself. Like MX250 wrote, posting one photo would have saved you all of this drama.
See ya Wes. Leave the key in the letterbox on the way out.
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I do hope this whole saga doesnt lead to the point where people are doubted until photo prove is provided to back their claims. It would indeed be a sad if a member says " Just picked up a YZ250 " no one believes him until pic proof.
Granted a NOS bike is a hugh claim, but lets be honest, it does happen albeit rarely and NOS bikes do exsist.
If I had found that Maico I would plasted pic's all over the thread. Just because Wes didnt does that instantly make him a liar? Wes has offen posted items for sale on forum and if I recall corectly he never posted pic's of the items he was selling.
Worth a thought. :-\
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Even if nothing comes out of all this , It did create a bit of action to see where the goalposts are.
Any way better than talking about Suzuki footpegs for no end. ;)
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Geez Louise,
To belong to the "Tribe" known as Australasian Vintage Moto Crossers ,you need to have big walnuts, a strong backbone , a large tolerance of bullshit, a high tolerance for pain and criticism,and the ability to back your bullshit with the facts,or at least a damn good story,you don't have to be right ,but you must have the courage of your convictions.
remember this , "Its not how many times you get knocked down , its how many times you get back up again"
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So Jikov, now Wes has taken his & ball & gone home it's time to start on me ? well go hard mate my skin is thick enough to handle it & I spose it has to be to mix it with you fellas Cheers
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Guys this is meant to be fun. I didn't expect the crap from the Maico thread to transfer here. Let's drop it and get back to discussing Suzuki footpegs and the virtues of CZs. Otherwise I'll be forced to hunt each one of you down at CD5 and roost all over you with the mighty RM125!
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Lastly. If in fact the bike does exist, do you honestly think that you'll find someone crazy enough to throw $120000 at it?
Firko
Not that I want in on this topic, but if there are people about who will pay $800,000.00+ for a HO falcon(from another thread) why wouldn't there be a genuine enthusiast that might pay the asking price for the Maico? Providing that it is as described of course.
Ed
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Those blokes who are paying 800k for a HO Falcon are in a very risky investment zone, akin to betting on the gee gees or the short term stockmarket. Knowing how the baby boomers are throwing money around these days, you may be right Ed, there may just be someone out there willing to throw that kind of money at it but I just don't think it would be a very wise investment. I wouldn't be investing my superanuation in a 120k Maico. I doubt if a real enthusiast would spend that kind of money on a bike he could never ride. Anyone who does buy it for that money is a speculator (nee gambler).
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I've also gone over my own posts and come to the conclusion that if Wes had simply said 'look at the NOS 490 I just bought', and posted a pic, I would have gone Man! Look at that! But the $120k price tag and no photo, really threw me. That and the fact that the story closely resembled another story I'd heard a couple of years ago about a YZ465. I'm not saying it's not true, just in that context it was hard to believe.
I think if I found a NOS '84 KX500, I'd be so bloody proud I'd want to show it to everybody. ;D
It would be a real pity if this bike does exist that nobody ever gets to see it.
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Guys this is meant to be fun.
Gee, I thought this was fun ;D.
Does this mean that when someone 'leads with a glass jaw' hands me a baseball bat, I'm not allowed to take a free swing ;D. Damn :P
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I definitely think that VMX enthusiasts are the poor cousins compared to the vintage car collector guys. With prices approaching a million dollars for a GTHO Falcon , I think that some people just have too much money . Good luck to Wes if he gets anything near his asking price , but I think that it is unlikely . Considering that up till a few years ago, you could have bought a brand new '81 Maico 490 from Bill Brown's Wulfsport in the UK for a hell of a lot less . He was apparently building complete bikes from n.o.s parts that he had bought from the original Maico factory & had an add in the early VMX magazines listing them for prices from 4000 quid . Apparently he does not do this anymore because it is obviously a lot easier & more lucrative just selling the n.o.s parts . '81 Maicos are not a particularly rare bike anyway , with reports that Maico sold more 490s than Honda did across its entire motocross range in 1981 .
I would have been more interested in the story if something rare like a '74 Ossa Phantom or an AW501 had turned up in n.o.s condition . I have heard rumours of a new '82 Can Am Sonic , still in the crate , somewhere near Nowra ( and they are a fairly rare bike ). I probably should have posted this in the Maico section , but the thread that this relates to is locked .
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Tony T has basically said what i would of said.
whats wrong with suzuki footpegs ???
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Hi Wes and bingil 6
Don't take it personally, no malice intended,
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I would like to offer my apologies to anyone who took my somewhat smutty remarks to heart.
I must confess that I took great offence to a certain hired assasins comments criticising the for sale section on this forum, and his aforementioned threats to a certain fine gentleman in Berridale.
I should not have let his comments get to me, but I have never been a person able to stomach intimidation and bullying.
There are a lot of great people in the VMX community,but without wanting to start another moral crusade,there will always be a small section who are blatantly out there to rip off the unfortunate.
Peace to all.
Suzuki 43
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Tony T has basically said what i would of said.
whats wrong with suzuki footpegs ???
As a life long Suzuki rider i feel i am Qualified to say Suzuki foot pegs are shit
AND IF ANYONE DISAGREES OR SUGGEST IM TELLING LIES IM TAKING MY SUZUKIS AND THERE FOOTPEGS AND GOING HOME NA NA NA NA NA :P
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:o better put up your dukes William! I'm a lifelong Suzuki nutter an' I say TM/RM footpegs are the bestest thing since powdered toast!! :D
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I missed the whoel thng again . bitch posting should be made to go into the main forum, that way we all get to see them, not in what sounds like some poxy little maico thread, that small area of the forum, be like 414 be proud and come out of the closest.
Im sick of missing these great old ladies bitch posts cuase you tarts keep burying them in never opened parts of the forum.
bastards............. i like reading you old ladies attacks. Now thats the second one i missed after skipping the postie one.
OKay - went over to the post and its been locked, but one thingi would like to add to respond to the original post ( couldnt give ashit about some maico) is i fel somwhat lost at this initial comment
"i have advertised many things on this vmx site over the last 12 months for people to buy , but i have never sold a thing,,so i will never advertise on this site again, i put parts on here for sale so people can get there hard to get bits but will never bother again,i will just go and advertise on ebay!!!.....
Well im not sure thats a valid point. In fact i would go as far as to say the shit that was offered like the TY250 shit for example was always well overpriced and that simply was the reason no one bought it, , and most stuff inc the TY250 isnt rare nor fitted with any factory parts worth chasing you for so i would get these "rare" bits else where ::)
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I better not mention that I own 2 NOS 1973 COOPER 250 MX bikes ;D only 10 were imported to OZ of this model, 5 are still known to exist from the shippment, mine came from the importers son after sitting locked away in a shed for over 30 years plus I have my ride bike, some one else has the other 2 bikes.
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I better not mention that I own 2 NOS 1973 COOPER 250 MX bikes ;D only 10 were imported to OZ of this model, 5 are still known to exist from the shippment, mine came from the importers son after sitting locked away in a shed for over 30 years plus I have my ride bike, some one else has the other 2 bikes.
I'm pretty sure Warrick Schuberg of Stuck Uptight has one....so one to go.
That would be some sort of record for all bikes of a make and model to be imported to be traced and accounted for 8).
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didnt the other one get stolen and burnt out from those kids a will back that took over the stroage unit and took the boat motor or was that a can am ?
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Cam Am Sonic 500
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ahh okay i actually had a rethink and i thought tnt 250 ?
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WARRICK SCHUBURGS COOPER 250 WAS ONE OF 40 MX BIKES IMPORTED BY BLAIR HARLEY TO THE EAST COAST OF OZ IN 1974, THEY WERE UPDATED MODELS, MY BIKES WERE FROM THE WA IMPORTER THAT WERE IMPORTED IN 1973, MAKING THEM THE FIRST COOPERS TO LAND IN OZ, BLAIR ALSO IMPORTED 110 COOPER ENDURO BIKES.
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... ONE OF 40 ......ALSO IMPORTED 110 COOPER ENDURO BIKES.
So many :o, I wonder where they went. Nevr saw one in the 'flesh'.
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Anyone seen an add for a NOS Maico yet ??? ;) ::) :-* :)
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I think its sold already.
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Have you got it in the garage brad??
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Shit missed out " by that--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- much"... ;)
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hey brad you,ve been unuseually quite this week are you hideing that bike in the shed ;D
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Yeah he sold all his other bikes to get it and now he's got nothin to ride.... But SHIT it looks good!
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I think its sold already.
For $120,000 ??? :o
Or was it a case of another misplaced decimal ??? ;D
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Come on Paul owe up to it . I heard on the bush telephone you bought and flogged it all week , only to list it on Ebay with a profit.
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MX250 IF YOU GOING TO CD5 YOU CAN SEE THE COOPERS IN THE FLESH, YSS I GOT THE SHOCK BACK FOR THE RM, WILL SEE HOW IT GO'S AT CLARENCE, THANKS WALTER