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Marketplace => eBay Finds => Topic started by: paul on September 08, 2011, 08:26:52 pm

Title: 1972 CHENEY TM400 SUZUKI TWINSHOCK MOTOCROSS
Post by: paul on September 08, 2011, 08:26:52 pm
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1972-CHENEY-TM400-SUZUKI-TWINSHOCK-MOTOCROSS-/260847306263?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item3cbbb60617
Title: Re: 1972 CHENEY TM400 SUZUKI TWINSHOCK MOTOCROSS
Post by: frostype400 on September 08, 2011, 08:28:09 pm
Pretty cool bike but pretty expensive too.
Title: Re: 1972 CHENEY TM400 SUZUKI TWINSHOCK MOTOCROSS
Post by: mx250 on September 08, 2011, 08:42:48 pm
Pretty cool bike but pretty expensive too.
8,271.42 AUD Hmmmmm, exclusivity and functionality in the one package, hmmmmm, whats that worth ;)?
Title: Re: 1972 CHENEY TM400 SUZUKI TWINSHOCK MOTOCROSS
Post by: John Orchard on September 08, 2011, 08:53:45 pm
Might they be RM250B forks?  What category of racing would that fit into?
Title: Re: 1972 CHENEY TM400 SUZUKI TWINSHOCK MOTOCROSS
Post by: Slakewell on September 08, 2011, 09:02:39 pm
too many iffy bits for my liking
Title: Re: 1972 CHENEY TM400 SUZUKI TWINSHOCK MOTOCROSS
Post by: LWC82PE on September 08, 2011, 10:54:39 pm
Would belong in pre 78 if they are RM forks. The hub/forks also look a lot like 77 PE250 items too.
Title: Re: 1972 CHENEY TM400 SUZUKI TWINSHOCK MOTOCROSS
Post by: Doc on September 09, 2011, 06:33:07 am
This bike originally belonged to Larry Reed (Oregon) and sold last April for $3250 USD. Don't know how it ended up back in the UK  :-\ it's an RM370 front end, Gemco pipe and the rest is basically as it came.

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/923869/Cheney%20TM400.jpg)
Title: Re: 1972 CHENEY TM400 SUZUKI TWINSHOCK MOTOCROSS
Post by: Marc.com on September 09, 2011, 06:39:07 am
Some Pom out to make a fast buck, but timing is wrong in this market.... look nice with my other Cheneys but not at that price.
Title: Re: 1972 CHENEY TM400 SUZUKI TWINSHOCK MOTOCROSS
Post by: Doc on September 09, 2011, 06:46:11 am
can never have enough Cheneys Marc ;D

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/923869/Cheney%20TM400%201973%20600US.JPG)

In '73 you could buy the complete chassis as pictured for $600usd.
Title: Re: 1972 CHENEY TM400 SUZUKI TWINSHOCK MOTOCROSS
Post by: JC on September 09, 2011, 08:03:35 am
Not one of Cheney's better looking bikes IMHO. They just don't look 'right'!
Title: Re: 1972 CHENEY TM400 SUZUKI TWINSHOCK MOTOCROSS
Post by: Marc.com on September 09, 2011, 08:43:38 am
can never have enough Cheneys Marc ;D
In '73 you could buy the complete chassis as pictured for $600usd.

yeah doc I got pipped at the post buyign one of these a couple of years ago but scored the Honda

(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/marcFX_photo/DSCF4112.jpg)

Title: Re: 1972 CHENEY TM400 SUZUKI TWINSHOCK MOTOCROSS
Post by: Doc on September 09, 2011, 08:59:55 am
JC, they look better with a different tank ;)

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/923869/Cheney%201973%20TM400.JPG)
Title: Re: 1972 CHENEY TM400 SUZUKI TWINSHOCK MOTOCROSS
Post by: firko on September 09, 2011, 11:23:22 am
Doc...Have you got a photo of Sully's ex Vegas Bob Neilson, ex Dave Tanner and ex Cosi Cheney TM400?
I can't find my shots of it. It'll be interesting to see if the seller sells his Cheney for the dough he's seeking.
If he does there'll be a few Cheney owners on this forum smacking their lips!

It's interesting to see the different frames old Eric made for the 2 strokes and little 4 strokes. The single downtube Suzuki frame diamond appears to be very similar to the cantilever Honda design, back suspension differences aside but the single downtube Husky frame harks to the earlier twin downtube design of my Yamaha. My Yamaha Cheney was made in 1969 but by 1973 the design had changed significantly enough to look totally different.
Below: Cheney Husqvarna
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/CHENEY%20HUSKY.jpg)
My Cheney Yamaha
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/firko%20cheney%20finished.jpg)
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JC, they look better with a different tank
I'm with Doc...the Cheney TM looks far better with a Suzuki style tank.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/cheneysuzy.jpg)
Title: Re: 1972 CHENEY TM400 SUZUKI TWINSHOCK MOTOCROSS
Post by: vmx42 on September 09, 2011, 11:59:45 am
I'm with Doc...the Cheney TM looks far better with a Suzuki style tank.

Cheney might have been a fine frame maker, but his tanks were truly ugly.

A sleeker tank and a bit of trimming of the seat profile makes these bikes look 1000% better [IMHO - not that anybody cares  :D] and look about 20 kilos lighter.
Title: Re: 1972 CHENEY TM400 SUZUKI TWINSHOCK MOTOCROSS
Post by: shortshifter on September 09, 2011, 12:32:29 pm
He's got some pretty cool stuff in his shop.Talked to a guy with a Cheney CZ at CD8,also some trick hybrids Maico/Triumph.VVVery nice!Can't remember his name :P
Title: Re: 1972 CHENEY TM400 SUZUKI TWINSHOCK MOTOCROSS
Post by: Doc on September 09, 2011, 01:34:05 pm
Firko I have detail shots of Ray's TM but none showing the diamond ::) the shot below was lifted from VMX mag when it was featured and before Ray owned it. The MkII is the same frame as the bikes pictured above but Ray's retains the TM forks/wheels and tank.

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/923869/000%20Cheney%20TM400%20Mk2.JPG)

interesting fact is the Cheney frame weighs only 2.5lbs lighter than the Suzuki item. The rest of the 35.5lbs saving of the completed 'light weight' bike is taken off elsewhere with namely the wheels, forks, tank, seat and swingarm being the biggest weight loss areas.

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/923869/Cheney%20TM400%20mkII.JPG)
Cheney TM400

Look what Eric did to the RH67  :o :'(

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/923869/Cheney%20TM250.jpg)
Title: Re: 1972 CHENEY TM400 SUZUKI TWINSHOCK MOTOCROSS
Post by: firko on September 09, 2011, 03:44:52 pm
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Look what Eric did to the RH67
Although it looks totally different to the RH70, this is the bike that Olle Peterssen took to Japan where the factory used it as the basis for the World conquering RH70.
Title: Re: 1972 CHENEY TM400 SUZUKI TWINSHOCK MOTOCROSS
Post by: Doc on September 09, 2011, 03:51:43 pm
and here is Olle Pettersson in Japan 1968...

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/923869/1968%20RH68%20Olle.jpg)

and the RH70

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/923869/1970%20RH70%20Suzuki.jpg)

The bike also won the 1970 All Japan Championship with Taichi Yoshimura aboard. He was also 125cc All Japan Champion in the same year riding an RA70.

Title: Re: 1972 CHENEY TM400 SUZUKI TWINSHOCK MOTOCROSS
Post by: supersenior 50 on September 14, 2011, 06:01:29 pm
His name is Doug Aichison from Brisbane. I sold the Cheney CZ to Doug, having bought it from ? Porter of Adelaide [sponsor of Andy Cauldicott for a while].Don't know it's history beyond that.