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Marque Remarks => Spaniards (Bultaco, Ossa, Montesa etc) => Topic started by: Tahitian_Red on September 06, 2011, 05:50:35 am

Title: Feeling Like Jim :-)
Post by: Tahitian_Red on September 06, 2011, 05:50:35 am
I got to take the Bultaco out and race it yesterday.  It needs a few more tweaks, but it will be ready for the next event and I'll get to see how it really compares to the Ossa Phantom

 :)

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Title: Re: Feeling Like Jim :-)
Post by: gordon67 on September 06, 2011, 07:10:16 am
If you get the bulto set up right mate there is no comparison,is that a 73 before chro  moly
Title: Re: Feeling Like Jim :-)
Post by: Tahitian_Red on September 06, 2011, 07:16:18 am
It's actually my 1975 model 135.  We are able to race them in Pre-75, here in the US, if we move the lower rear shock mount back to the same point as the 1974's.

After one race I can tell it is a great bike!  I need to sort out the carburetion and the ergonomics.  ;D
Title: Re: Feeling Like Jim :-)
Post by: gordon67 on September 06, 2011, 07:26:06 am
Does it still have the 36mm amal on it.i put 36mm mikuni,s on my 250 and 360 that was the job sorted
Title: Re: Feeling Like Jim :-)
Post by: crankpin on September 06, 2011, 07:43:07 am

Nice bike.

What bars are they? look very Husky like...

I should be out on my 103 this weekend. Can't wait  ;D
Title: Re: Feeling Like Jim :-)
Post by: gordon67 on September 06, 2011, 07:58:19 am
I do expect the results to improve this weekend if you turn out on the bulto then, nothing less than a trophy,every bodys results imrove on bulto s  cranky. ;D
Title: Re: Feeling Like Jim :-)
Post by: Tahitian_Red on September 06, 2011, 08:09:00 am
Except for Works Performance shocks and the plastic fenders she is stock, but maybe a previous owner switched the bars. ??

I'm putting on a new pipe and switching to a 36mm Mikuni in the next few weeks.  I will upgrade the bars and controls also, but that's about it.
Title: Re: Feeling Like Jim :-)
Post by: gordon67 on September 06, 2011, 08:26:24 am
Thats all you need to do to the bike, followed by getting out of the gate first.....good luck
Title: Re: Feeling Like Jim :-)
Post by: firko on September 06, 2011, 09:48:10 am
Nice one Jay...I see you're still trying to find true happiness on a vintage bike after selling the Maico all those years ago ::) ;D
I'm pretty sure the '75 Mk8 250 Pursang is allowed in pre '75 here as a flow on model as long as the rear suspension is retro-engineered back to Mk7 specs. The Mk8 360 misses out because the engine differs too much from its Mk7 predecessor.
Title: Re: Feeling Like Jim :-)
Post by: hitatreeonce on September 06, 2011, 11:59:13 am
Nice one Jay...I see you're still trying to find true happiness on a vintage bike after selling the Maico all those years ago ::) ;D
I'm pretty sure the '75 Mk8 250 Pursang is allowed in pre '75 here as a flow on model as long as the rear suspension is retro-engineered back to Mk7 specs. The Mk8 360 misses out because the engine differs too much from its Mk7 predecessor.

I'm building one of these at the moment and have the modified swing arm but I thought one of the rules was no retro fitting? hope I'm wrong then I can run it in pre75!
Title: Re: Feeling Like Jim :-)
Post by: Moto on September 06, 2011, 09:29:27 pm
As long as you have 7"and 4" the 75 250 model is allowed in Aus. I have been racing mine for years with no eligibility problems. They are a very happy bike to ride.
Title: Re: Feeling Like Jim :-)
Post by: crankpin on September 06, 2011, 11:07:42 pm
I do expect the results to improve this weekend if you turn out on the bulto then, nothing less than a trophy,every bodys results imrove on bulto s  cranky. ;D

 ;D no chance, I'll stick to my usual gentlemanly pace.

Besides, wouldn't want to bite the filter off my cig through hitting the bumps too fast  8)
Title: Re: Feeling Like Jim :-)
Post by: Tahitian_Red on September 07, 2011, 02:36:54 am
Nice one Jay...I see you're still trying to find true happiness on a vintage bike after selling the Maico all those years ago ::) ;D
I'm pretty sure the '75 Mk8 250 Pursang is allowed in pre '75 here as a flow on model as long as the rear suspension is retro-engineered back to Mk7 specs. The Mk8 360 misses out because the engine differs too much from its Mk7 predecessor.

Firko,

The Maico was a '76 AW400, but I am still searching for that ultimate Pre-75 250 feeling (There are so many good ones to choose from!)  It's like being in a room full of Super-Models that are jacked up on aphrodisiacs; which one do you choose, first.
 ;D
Title: Re: Feeling Like Jim :-)
Post by: firko on September 07, 2011, 10:20:13 am
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Pre-75 250 feeling (There are so many good ones to choose from!)
Yeah, just  kidding about the Maico....in fact it kills me to admit that the pre '75 4 speed 250 Maicos are a little bit down the pre '75 pecking order, mostly due to being limited by a 4 speed trans and conservative state of tune. 1974 arguably offered the public the best selection of 250 motocrossers in history. The big three Spaniards were peaking with the best they were to ever produce, Honda had the Elsinore, Yamaha the groundbreaking YZ250B and Husqvarna presented us with the killer 250 MAG while Maico, Kawasaki and CZ weren't so far behind the gun bikes to be considered uncompetitive, all three being easily brought up to competitive level with a little extra work.

In the final washup Jay I reckon you're sitting on top of the pile with your OSSA Phantom and Bultaco Pursang. If I was twenty years younger and looking for a pre '75 250 ride they'd be my top two choices, along with the Yamaha YZ250B.

 
Title: Re: Feeling Like Jim :-)
Post by: Slakewell on September 07, 2011, 01:06:11 pm
The best Pre 75 /250 is the 74.5 KTM It did win the world champs you know.  ;D
Title: Re: Feeling Like Jim :-)
Post by: Husky70 on September 07, 2011, 01:32:28 pm
Only after they took out Falta. >:(
Title: Re: Feeling Like Jim :-)
Post by: Slakewell on September 07, 2011, 01:44:54 pm
Only after they took out Falta. >:(

Now now it's all in the past and no one will know the Truth. The fact that he won another two Championships after 74 and Falta won how many? They were still the best 250 in 74. They had long travel rear ends half way thou the season as well, The early 72/73 bikes while good dont handle anywhere near as good as the late 74 GP frame models.
Title: Re: Feeling Like Jim :-)
Post by: firko on September 07, 2011, 02:22:54 pm
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The best Pre 75 /250 is the 74.5 KTM It did win the world champs you know
There might be a few CZ fans that would love to discuss that one with you Mick ;D
Title: Re: Feeling Like Jim :-)
Post by: shorelinemc on September 07, 2011, 02:43:54 pm
Nice one Jay...I see you're still trying to find true happiness on a vintage bike after selling the Maico all those years ago ::) ;D
I'm pretty sure the '75 Mk8 250 Pursang is allowed in pre '75 here as a flow on model as long as the rear suspension is retro-engineered back to Mk7 specs. The Mk8 360 misses out because the engine differs too much from its Mk7 predecessor.
mk 8 has l/h gear change,pretty certain they have a little more travel in the front end as well apart from the extra in the rear.you would get away with it at a club day but i wouldnt like to test the scrutineer at a national event
Title: Re: Feeling Like Jim :-)
Post by: Tahitian_Red on September 07, 2011, 03:44:14 pm
The best Pre 75 /250 is the 74.5 KTM It did win the world champs you know.  ;D

That's the next bike in the que.  I plan to run it in 2012, but then I said that about 2011.  It will be an interesting contrast; just moving the Phantom and KTM around the garage you can tell there is a big difference in weight. 

Funny thing about that '74 championship, it wasn't so much a KTM vs CZ, but more of a Czech vs Russian thing.  His own CZ "team mates" (the Russian ones) center-punched him and harassed him.  He overcame that, but it was an iffy jumping the starting gate ruling that cost Falta the championship.
 :(
Title: Re: Feeling Like Jim :-)
Post by: JC on September 08, 2011, 08:32:53 am
Throw in a VR & you certainly have some of the very best of the era.
Title: Re: Feeling Like Jim :-)
Post by: Slakewell on September 08, 2011, 09:54:32 am
The KTM one down side is they are to heavy , But they don't brake.
If Brad Lewis takes his to the Nats next year and Pete Horward rides it , it will win every race it's entered.