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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: KTMaico on August 24, 2011, 01:58:19 pm
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I have been very busy at work and that means more money, but less time to enjoy it or the toys. But I have been reading recent posts in regards to the legendary Suzuki RH250's and I got to thinking, "What are they worth today" and is a 1973, 1974, or a 1975 worth more than each other or would all be worth the same? I know a few forum regulars have some and they may be able to throw some light onto this topic. Also what are the individual parts worth if you can find them in any condition eg frame, motor, wheels etc....
I just thought I would throw this out there and see what the majority think
Kevin.
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74 worth way more than 75
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74 worth way more than 75
Why? My understanding a few more refinements where put into the 75 model
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74 worth way more than 75
Why? My understanding a few more refinements where put into the 75 model
74 is way rarer and pre 75 weapon ;) 75 awesome bike much more common though and a good but not great pre 78 bike .
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It's all down to supply and demand. I don't know the numbers sold but there's heaps more RH75's than RH74's out there. I've only seen a couple of '74's including Dave T's but know of at least six or more RH'75's.
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It's all down to supply and demand. I don't know the numbers sold but there's heaps more RH75's than RH74's out there. I've only seen a couple of '74's including Dave T's but know of at least six or more RH'75's.
Mark,
I would have thought that the 1974 would be more plentiful as the 1975 was hard to get rid of by the dealers because the release of the RM's. I would still think that a 1975 RH250 properly restored and race prep'd would be a competitive pre 1977 racer in the hands of a fair to good rider. They (the RH's) were reputably easier to ride as the weight was around the 170lbs mark and it felt like a very powerful 125. Is this the case or was Mr. Robert's RH250 the only one weighing in at 168lbs?
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"Calling Mr. John Kittle"
John, you have 2 RH250's can you please describe them as a rider and owner. What weight, what power, what handling, what next? Any input would be great to get.
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Why? My understanding a few more refinements where put into the 75 model
RH74 is not only rarer than 75 but was the dominant bike of its era, it was the invites only bike for pro riders and along with the RNs won World Champs courtesy of de Coster and Robert.
The RH75 IMO was pretty much made redundant immediately by the RM250A, where the RH was light years better than a TM, the RM250A closed the gap to the point where the factory couldn't justify limited volume hotrods. Also I guess the AMA had also been making moves against factory bikes through 'claiming rules' in road and off road racing during this period.
The market demand was for a Suzuki MXer that was more hard core like Rogers and with the RM250A thats what they got. Even with the RA and RN they never seemed to deviate that much from the production bike again..... the RM was a game changer
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Have riden 74 and 75 RH and RN400 - 74 is the model for all the reasons TM Bill,Firko and mark FX have said.
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All very good points, and taken onboard. Part of my original question was what are they worth, as awhole and in parts. I know they don't come along too often, but what sort of value do you put on one when and if one comes up?
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How longs a peice of string?.......rare as Julia telling the truth, parts taken care of by horders, market in reality is very small....although everyone wants one, when push comes to shove, they aint gonna hand over the hard earned and basically, if your not in the "know", you'll be pushing shit up hill trying to restore one....having said that, I'll own one more than likely one day....keep the dream alive as one old foggy use to say. ;D
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I know they don't come along too often, but what sort of value do you put on one when and if one comes up?
Based on the ones that have come up in the last few years 15-25K .... with RH74 at the top of the range. They have a historical value depending on who rode it and how famous they are.
Like Davey said the market for the bike is small but the buyers tend to be pretty passionate about owning one which keeps values and interest high. As for good original parts I think mostly they are being hoarded.... I intend to be buried with mine at a location secret from TMBill, the titanium screws can hold the lid on the box. ;)
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That old rat hunter will sniff you out mArc....like bee's too honey.....after he's ransacked your tomb, he'll leave a Portsmouth flag on ya and an empty bottle of gin. ;D
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That old rat hunter will sniff you out mArc....like bee's too honey
Too true, lucky the TMGP is willed back to Mike, when I cark it I will just get him to pour me in the tank. ;D
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"Calling Mr. John Kittle"
John, you have 2 RH250's can you please describe them as a rider and owner. What weight, what power, what handling, what next? Any input would be great to get.
The main difference between the 2 is the rear suspension, the '75 having laid down shocks and more travel.
There were not many 74's brought into the country compared to 75's so i'd say they're more collectible. The RM A was a '76 model so that had nothing to do with the '75 RH's not selling well.
Don't be fooled..the RH/RN's we got here are nothing like the works bikes of Robert/ DeCoster etc from the same year..
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The main difference between the 2 is the rear suspension, the '75 having laid down shocks and more travel.
There were not many 74's brought into the country compared to 75's so i'd say they're more collectible. The RM A was a '76 model so that had nothing to do with the '75 RH's not selling well.
Don't be fooled..the RH/RN's we got here are nothing like the works bikes of Robert/ DeCoster etc from the same year..
"your da man" JohnnyO ....to speak to the seller owner of my much awaited RH250 ;D
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Here is the '75 Aussie RH250
(http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc374/JohnnyO31/_KAP2220.jpg)
And here is the 'real deal' '75 factory RN400.. spot the difference ;)
(http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc374/JohnnyO31/75RN.jpg)
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Isn't that an RM tank ?
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I'm under the impression a lot of the parts(most) from the "production" RH and RN's could be found on the works bikes from that time. The bike in the Good collection, apparently found in a sad state in the UK,is said to be the real deal. This bike; (it's engine ,frame,forks and assorted bits); looks identical to mine. While they are a completely different bike to the TM, I can't imagine they made new moulds etc to cast up engine cases and the like for the RH/RN that weren't also used on the "works" bikes. While I don't know for sure and certain, I would like to think ( probably wishful) that when the decision was made at HQ to do a limited run of production "works" bikes that they didn't start from scratch but borrowed from the already existing specs of the works bikes. I think they have more in common with the works bikes than most people think.
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and here is something you may come across in a chook pen ;)(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/vmx247/RH-250.jpg)
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Isn't that an RM tank ?
It's a '75 works suzuki tank.. RM's were not around at this time
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I'm under the impression a lot of the parts(most) from the "production" RH and RN's could be found on the works bikes from that time. The bike in the Good collection, apparently found in a sad state in the UK,is said to be the real deal. This bike; (it's engine ,frame,forks and assorted bits); looks identical to mine. While they are a completely different bike to the TM, I can't imagine they made new moulds etc to cast up engine cases and the like for the RH/RN that weren't also used on the "works" bikes. While I don't know for sure and certain, I would like to think ( probably wishful) that when the decision was made at HQ to do a limited run of production "works" bikes that they didn't start from scratch but borrowed from the already existing specs of the works bikes. I think they have more in common with the works bikes than most people think.
I think you'd be correct about a lot of things here but the real works bikes had a lot of titanium, magnesium and hand made parts even though both bikes look the same.
The production '74 RH is a copy of the '72 factory RH and a couple years behind the factory '74 RH
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Haven't you got it yet. :)
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and here is something you may come across in a chook pen ;)(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/vmx247/RH-250.jpg)
Nice.. :) Yeah it's a '75 RH250. Is it yours yet Alison?
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The tank looks so much better than the rest of bike that it might have had a paint job- and a laydown shock conversion? Swingarm looks braced so that me think it might be a modified 74 also.
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looks good but the chain could do with a lube.
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Looks to be '75 rear end with extra gusset on swingarm. '74 has ball bearing mounted in frame where swingarm axle goes through and also smaller diameter tubing used for swingarm.
Suzuki27 do you have an RH?
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Joel told me that at an international meeting Ivan Millers prody RH shit a motor , Joels mechanic lent Ivan a spare motor but it wouldn't fit in Ivans frame ;)
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I would buy a 75 RH in a heart beat just because I lusted after one in my youth and they have always been on wish list.
As a pre 77 race bike sadly they dont even come close to my KTM 77 , its has way more bottom end and maybe even a bit more on top plus it handles a lot better feels nicer etc.
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Hi Johnnie, yep I have an RH. I believe it is an ex Barry Senn bike from NZ. It is pretty much correct. Missing a couple of bits and pieces like the countershaft cover and proper airbox.
That is interesting to hear Bill. The RH250L being a "copy" of the RH72 might have something to do with it. By 74 the Factory bikes would have moved on a bit no doubt.
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Nice.. :) Yeah it's a '75 RH250. Is it yours yet Alison?
No..he's (owner) still thinking about it. :-\
cheers A
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Hi Johnnie, yep I have an RH. I believe it is an ex Barry Senn bike from NZ. It is pretty much correct. Missing a couple of bits and pieces like the countershaft cover and proper airbox.
Cool... I'm guessing it's a '75? The RM250a airbox and sprocket cover will fit.
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Hi Johnnie, yep I have an RH. I believe it is an ex Barry Senn bike from NZ. It is pretty much correct. Missing a couple of bits and pieces like the countershaft cover and proper airbox.
That is interesting to hear Bill. The RH250L being a "copy" of the RH72 might have something to do with it. By 74 the Factory bikes would have moved on a bit no doubt.
Bill your bike is ex Ivan Millers isn't it ?
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and here is something you may come across in a chook pen ;)(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/vmx247/RH-250.jpg)
Ali you know the vultures are all google earthing all of WA now trying to locate that baby ;D ;D
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Hi Johnnie , I have an RM250B and it needed a sprocket cover, so I got hold of a cheapish NOS one that was supposed to be for a 370A and it fitted the 250B , but it is not close to the RH motor. I will send a pm about the RH.
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A lot of stuff swaps from the RM370 and RM250. I thought the sprocket cover would fit the RH also as a lot of RM parts will fit.. i don't have sprocket covers for either of my RH's
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Hi Bill, I'm not sure if it is an ex Ivan Miller bike. Be good if it was. It's a very nice 250L that has been restored well.
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Johnnie, I thought the RM cover would fit too! Allison knows where one is though! Name your price!!
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Be interesting to hear what you guys and girls reckon the hen house RH is worth.
$2K, $5K or $10K even. I'm thinking somewhere around the $5 grand mark. Given that parts are rare and expensive if you do find some . Be good to see it end up being restored and not left to gather feathers.
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Be interesting to hear what you guys and girls reckon the hen house RH is worth.
$2K, $5K or $10K even.
I'd be onto it as quick as I've ever moved at 5k! No matter how rooted these things are they're amongst the most desirable bikes in our sport, up there with twin port CZ's and OW Yamahas. I know of an RH75 and RN75 matching pair sitting in a shed, unused for years. Unfortunately the owner has no intention of either using or selling them.
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Here's my '75. This is an ex-Barry Senn bike.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1052255/RH250-RHS_2.jpg)
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Nice.. Yeah it's a '75 RH250. Is it yours yet Alison?
No..he's (owner) still thinking about it
Ali you know the vultures are all google earthing all of WA now trying to locate that baby
Ali...Unless you want to open up a bidding war or get gazumped on the RH75, I'd be keeping it to myself until you have it in your shed. As others and I have said elsewhere, these bikes are very desirable and it's quite probable that someone with a bigger wallet and a more convincing schtick will get in under you and snag the bike before you know it. There's no etiquette book for bike hunters.
"Softly, softly catchee tiger"......Old Jungle saying ;)
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allison better hope the guy(owner) doesn,t read this forum because what money was offered was a little light im led to believe
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That's COOL, I had a TM125 then a RM125a back in the day. Used to lust over these RN & RH's.
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Be interesting to hear what you guys and girls reckon the hen house RH is worth.
$2K, $5K or $10K even. I'm thinking somewhere around the $5 grand mark. Given that parts are rare and expensive if you do find some . Be good to see it end up being restored and not left to gather feathers.
Depending on the condition of the Motor / Box i would think probably 8 to 10 K :)
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Hi Bill, I'm not sure if it is an ex Ivan Miller bike. Be good if it was. It's a very nice 250L that has been restored well.
If it looks anything like this one it is most likely ex Ivan Miller. Hell I might even where some of a spares kit is ;D
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/marcFX_photo/DSC00989.jpg)
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all thats missing from that RH74 is a decent set of gold rims
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/marcFX_photo/IMG_3406.jpg)
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Ok fellas, next question- Where do you verify the engine and frame numbers from? Is there a website resource that has the numbers listed for RH Suzuki's. What should someone be looking for to verify the bike is the real thing?
Kevin
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Bill your bike is ex Ivan Millers isn't it ?
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Imagine it sitting next to the BSA Bill..... mate why have I bought a bunch of other shit since and didn't hit the buy now button on that one :'( :'( :'(
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Bill your bike is ex Ivan Millers isn't it ?
Imagine it sitting next to the BSA Bill..... mate why have I bought a bunch of other shit since and didn't hit the buy now button on that one :'( :'( :'(
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Because were nice guys Marc :) and wanted to share the love ;)
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all thats missing from that RH74 is a decent set of gold rims
Or a trick as all shit adjustable steering head. ::)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/cd6%20043.jpg)
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Or a trick as all shit adjustable steering head. ::)
Hell firko why didn't Suzuki think of that, be even better with a lever and wedge attached to it so you can drag it in like a trials bike in the tight stuff and then push the lever down to rake out like a chopper for the straights. ;)
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Ok fellas, next question- Where do you verify the engine and frame numbers from? Is there a website resource that has the numbers listed for RH Suzuki's. What should someone be looking for to verify the bike is the real thing?
Kevin
The 74 RH engine and frame # will be within 10 of each other normally, the engine # located on left side near countershaft will be RH250 000399 or less if a 74 and RH250 000400 or greater if a 75. The RN is a different kettle of fish all together and could crap on about that for a long time.
In a nutshell the 75 RH was a preproduction bike and around 2-300 were made. It my understanding of the 74 RH (having owned one for 20 years and a few more I dont still own) that there was 6-10 74 models in Australia 6 or so delivered to the UK and 4 or so in NZ. The 74 works replica was just that a replica of Roberts and Gebores bikes of 72/3 and differs from the full factory bikes in a few ways; things like alloy seat base over steel on the replica, billet forks and tripples over cast on the replica etc. There was a number of things that were the same - the engine was to the best of my knowledge the same, I have Roberts or Gebores pipe from 72 and its pretty different - period. The rear shocks are the same as are the hubs and rims all sand cast with external part # cast in.
Whatever the case the 74 is by a long way the more collectable and useable bike
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Those 10k RH's are pretty cool but my $100 TM250 RH clone has a way higher bang for your buck. It's got a genuine RH rear 'guard too!....Oh, and it's now got a Circle-F pipe which raised the total build cost to a bit under $500.
ps...this little cheapy is a different bike to the adjustable steering head Boyd and Stellings framed TM400 shown above, despite them both having Clarke tanks and NZ made graphics.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/suz.jpg)
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Ok fellas, next question- Where do you verify the engine and frame numbers from? Is there a website resource that has the numbers listed for RH Suzuki's. What should someone be looking for to verify the bike is the real thing?
Kevin
The 74 RH engine and frame # will be within 10 of each other normally, the engine # located on left side near countershaft will be RH250 000399 or less if a 74 and RH250 000400 or greater if a 75. The RN is a different kettle of fish all together and could crap on about that for a long time.
In a nutshell the 75 RH was a preproduction bike and around 2-300 were made. It my understanding of the 74 RH (having owned one for 20 years and a few more I dont still own) that there was 6-10 74 models in Australia 6 or so delivered to the UK and 4 or so in NZ. The 74 works replica was just that a replica of Roberts and Gebores bikes of 72/3 and differs from the full factory bikes in a few ways; things like alloy seat base over steel on the replica, billet forks and tripples over cast on the replica etc. There was a number of things that were the same - the engine was to the best of my knowledge the same, I have Roberts or Gebores pipe from 72 and its pretty different - period. The rear shocks are the same as are the hubs and rims all sand cast with external part # cast in.
Whatever the case the 74 is by a long way the more collectable and useable bike
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How do these numbers sound RH250 10421 and RH250 10527 ?
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Like RM numbers.....or are we talking mid to late 80's trailbike?
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ps...this little cheapy is a different bike to the adjustable steering head Boyd and Stellings framed TM400 shown above, despite them both having Clarke tanks and NZ made graphics.
I love a $500 special as much as the next man, I just have trouble getting them to stay that way....... picked up clean TM400 motor for US $125 and $80 frame that's been delugged and airboxed, so keep an eye out for budget TM400GP coming up.
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Sweet looking bike Ajay. Love those rear shocks.
Marc, that is a picture of mine when still in NZ. I will have to get around to painting the airbox soon. That is interesting to hear about Ivan Miller- watched him as a kid at Amaroo. I wonder if the price of these bikes will go up or down over the years. But its not all about the money is it! I'd rather have the RH sitting in the garage than just about any bike I can think of- a case of beauty being in the eye of the beholder no doubt.
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Ali you know the vultures are all google earthing all of WA now trying to locate that baby
Ali...Unless you want to open up a bidding war or get gazumped on the RH75, I'd be keeping it to myself until you have it in your shed. As others and I have said elsewhere, these bikes are very desirable and it's quite probable that someone with a bigger wallet and a more convincing schtick will get in under you and snag the bike before you know it. There's no etiquette book for bike hunters.
"Softly, softly catchee tiger"......Old Jungle saying ;)
All I've done is shown a pic,,I dont think he wants to sell it,his original inquiry was worth....
Others have mentioned it will probably sit in his shed for another 20 odd years...just like old farmer Joe ;D..
Even if the boss offered 2k or 5k he didnt even comment ...just said "Im going to find out more about them in USA".
When it comes down to it,its going in Stevens shed and he has to work on it.I cant convince him anymore than I have..I suppose a shotgun may help ;D
I do hope the owner is reading this then he will know and we/he can get on with the deal..
If its already gone.Always another day :P
Always use leaf umbrella ,as poop can fall from high...old jungle bird saying ;)
cheers A
allison better hope the guy(owner) doesn,t read this forum because what money was offered was a little light im led to believe
Live n Learn about the money offer ;)
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How do these numbers sound RH250 10421 and RH250 10527 ?
In some european countries the 84 onwards watercooled TS250X was called a RH250 instead of a TS but it was not a works bike or anything, it was just a trail bike. What is this RH you have your eye on? Old 70's twinshocker like what has been shown throughout this thread or mid 80's single shocker? Going by what 211 said your numbers are a few digits short to be RH numbers.
Check out this site for 1970's RH/RN pics and stuff
http://www.suzukicycles.org
(http://www.suzukicycles.org/photos/suzuki-history/1984/1984_RH250_yellowblue_500.jpg)
(http://www.suzukicycles.org/photos/RH-RN-series/RH250-brochures/1985_RH250_FRsales1_1166.jpg)
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Sweet looking bike Ajay. Love those rear shocks.
Marc, that is a picture of mine when still in NZ.
I know the bike well. Keep that one forever, of all the RHs that have come up in years that is easily the best one, the best spare everything went on to that bike when Barry had it and then Mike put a lot of love into making it mint.
It was worth every $$$$ you paid and that particular bike will always be worth a premium as a 74 and its history. If you grab your copy of Motocross Racers by Ray Ryan and open it to page 57 there is a photo of Ivan airing out an RH74 in the photo.... it is most likely that bike.
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Getting back to the spares kit you may or may not have Marc! Surely we can work something out. What about a slightly soiled, low mileage left nut I have !
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I've got a question. Do all RH250 motors have a gear selector shaft on the right hand side of motor as well as the left or is this something that can recognise a particular year or country origin ? Regards Barf
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Thanks for that Marc. I know that photo well but never thought about it possibly being that bike.
How does that bike of yours go? Do you have to run "good" fuel with the RH head and barrel?
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I've got a question. Do all RH250 motors have a gear selector shaft on the right hand side of motor as well as the left or is this something that can recognise a particular year or country origin ? Regards Barf
Yes mate they all have the gear shaft on both sides of the motor for left or right gearchange.
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How does that bike of yours go? Do you have to run "good" fuel with the RH head and barrel?
Good question, ::) errr ummm we have never run it .... yeah I know garage queen, but bike is in NZ and I am in Tokyo and it is getting the urge to turn NOS RH top end into used top end. One day when I am back in NZ ;D
the shame of it all, still it is not the only bike I have that is stashed until next April.
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Thanks for that JohnnyO. I did think that but i thought i best ask just to make sure, thanks again... Barf
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The RH74 is certainly more desirable than the RH75 but the real collectors piece is the RH67 twin porter.
Below: My late friend 'Vegas Bob' Neilson and the RH67 her restored and sold to the Swedish guy pictured. The other RH67 is from Sieges site...hence the Siege girls.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/bob.jpg)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/Suzuki%20RH67.jpg)
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I agree Firko but truth is that's just a '67 TM250 ;D not sold in big numbers but it was available to anyone who harboured serious racing intentions. All for a mere $975 including the spares kit. Cheap!!
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Kind of forgotten but an RH68 would be nice also...(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/923869/tn_Suzuki%20RH68.jpg) (http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/923869/Suzuki%20RH68.jpg)(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/923869/tn_Suzuki%20RH68%20001.jpg) (http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/923869/Suzuki%20RH68%20001.jpg)
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The other RH67 is from Sieges site...hence the Siege girls. [/i]
Do you have any more photos of the Siege girls ;)
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Who is this Seigi guy? I like everything of his that I've seen. He looks like he really enjoys himself!
Doc, do you know of any RH68,69 ,70's that survive in private hands?
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No 27 I can't say I know of any '66,'69,'70,'71 or '73 RH's in private collections. Not saying they don't exist just I haven't seen any. The '68 pictured belongs to Chris Carter (owner of Motion Pro Cables) in the US and was originally raced by Don Emde.
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There are a few fully restored RH67s floating around in the USA that I know of. Chris Cater has one, Tom White also has one in his museum and there was one on display at the AMA Motocross museum in Ohio.
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Who is this Seigi guy? I like everything of his that I've seen. He looks like he really enjoys himself!
Siege (Christopher James)is the VMX mover and shaker in the Pacific Northwest region of the US and the creator of the best t shirts to do with our hobby/sport. http://www.wischt.com/siegeshirts5.htm (http://www.wischt.com/siegeshirts5.htm) http://www.siegecraftnw.com/VDR.htm (http://www.siegecraftnw.com/VDR.htm)
I agree Firko but truth is that's just a '67 TM250
Yeah Chris but have you ever tried to find one? I seriously considered Bobs RH67 but it became too pricy even for a money crazy squillionaire like me :o ::). Apparently they're not all that great on the track but this is the bike that started the legend. Eric Cheney made a frame to suit the twin port engine and it was ridden to some success in the UK by Tom Ledbitter. That bike was purchased by the Suzuki factory and the frame geometry copied to produce the RH70 and its later offspring. It's a little known aspect of RH development that Eric Cheney's frame design was the basis for the original RH/RN.
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I was just piss taking Firko..the RH67 are the holy grail to me ;) The bike in Seige's pic is owned by Fred Rockmore so that's another owner to add to AJay's list. Not sure about how good they were but they were the best thing from Japan at the time. Preston Petty raced one back in late '67 at Hopetown and really stuck it to everyone including Joël Robert on the CZ. He actually led the event until he tired and then the Europeans took over. Joël eventually won that event. Petty was highest placed US rider on the west coast in this era and in another event Joël actually crashed whilst trying to pass Preston for the lead and had to retire from the event due to injury. Everyone raves about Joel and Roger's exploits but for my way of thinking the original man was Olle Petterssen. Just a little trivia :)
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Firko theres a early cheney Suzuki raced here in Auckland Un zud.
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Bugger the poxy 67 RH .... the real find here is the Siege Model gallery, there are some classic models there alright
http://www.wischt.com/siegeshirts-models.htm
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My Maico 490 will have company....... 1975 Suzuki RH250 coming to Australia soon. Can't wait to start the rebuild process and to be told by others I am too anal and fussy with making it a actual race bike and not just a show piece. Thanks to everyone I have phoned and contacted in the last couple of days to verify information and to allow me to pick their brains. The Bike will be on Qld tracks by next year. I better have a lay down as all the blood has left my head and is causing dizziness. The wifes diamond ring for our anniversary will have to wait, I am sure she will understand.
Kevin
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Great to hear kevin. You will have the ride of a select few 8)
Speaking of Cheney. Here's an something different.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/923869/Copy%20of%20Cheeny%20TM400.jpg)
TM400 with a left side brake and right side shift.
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is it or not
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Suzuki-RH-250-Faktory-YZ-RM-CR-KTM-Husqvarna-CZ-Maico-/250878833396?pt=Motorr%C3%A4der&hash=item3a698b32f4
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it is..1975
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Firko theres a early cheney Suzuki raced here in Auckland Un zud.
Got an idea that was brought into the country from the UK and raced by a kiwi F1 mechanic...John Bullock, or John Muller... ??? long time ago now...
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is it or not
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Suzuki-RH-250-Faktory-YZ-RM-CR-KTM-Husqvarna-CZ-Maico-/250878833396?pt=Motorr%C3%A4der&hash=item3a698b32f4
That RH was for sale last year in Belguim, a potential buyer was quizzing people on this forum as to it's authenticity.
I have a feeling this bike will end up in Australia ;)
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is it or not
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Suzuki-RH-250-Faktory-YZ-RM-CR-KTM-Husqvarna-CZ-Maico-/250878833396?pt=Motorr%C3%A4der&hash=item3a698b32f4
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Firko theres a early cheney Suzuki raced here in Auckland Un zud.
There's one here as well, the ex Vegas Bob Neilson Cheney TM400 that's been through two or three owners including Dave Tanner.
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David Tanner, is wealth of information in regards to the Suzuki RH and the Kawasaki KX. Nice guy and was very generous with his time and knowledge. I look forward to possibly getting together with him and Brad Van Barello at the ballet. ;D
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Next Question on Suzuki RH250's.
Where is/Who is the source for good Plastic's and RH Reference Material? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Mark, thanks for putting me in touch with David.
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Mark, thanks for putting me in touch with David.
No probs mate...Dave's indeed a good fella who has worked tirelessly behind the scenes for our sport for a long, long time. His knowledge on all things Suzuki and Kawasaki is well respected and we're proud to have him as a member of the esteemed Klub Kevlar good 'ol boy network ;D.
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Next Question on Suzuki RH250's.
Where is/Who is the source for good Plastic's and RH Reference Material? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Mark, thanks for putting me in touch with David.
Kevin you can use a '74/'75 TM front guard, RM250A rear guard and RM125M/S sidecovers. Vintage Suzuki carry most of those plastics otherwise Ebay is your friend :)
I have some printed info you can copy and so does Dave.
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Hey Doc, Olle is the man all right you and I really do think the same, love the Suzuki / Kawasaki thing and if you look real close Im living the dream! One step from the funny farm is a good place to be.
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:D yeah Dave I have noticed you have the dream thing nailed 8) I'm aspiring but I'm stuck in the pseudo dream with the TM and F11 ::) I was nearly going to mention why not a KX250 instead of an RH but I'd have been incarcerated yet again and I've only just got out :D
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/923869/Doc.jpg)
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Next Question on Suzuki RH250's.
Where is/Who is the source for good Plastic's and RH Reference Material? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Mark, thanks for putting me in touch with David.
Kevin you can use a '74/'75 TM front guard, RM250A rear guard and RM125M/S sidecovers. Vintage Suzuki carry most of those plastics otherwise Ebay is your friend :)
I have some printed info you can copy and so does Dave.
John,
Is it possible to get that info in electronic format? I will ask david the same question. Thanks John.
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and here is something you may come across in a chook pen ;)(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/vmx247/RH-250.jpg)
That's correct Over The Hill..I've annoyed shite out of this guy since 2011 and now he (mates wife) is ready to sell with all the info he needs to sell it for 6k..
Thanks for finding the link spent a age looking last night .. :)
cheers Western Australia
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I remember Peter Ploen picked one up localy [manawatu area nz] quite a few years ago now but in our vmx time], how the hell he found that i'll never know but i was a bit annoyed with myself that i hadn't heard about it first lol since it was hiding around here somewhere for years no doubt.
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A photo shows it hanging in PP entertainment/dining area 8)
Edit...Actually its suzuki,would have to confirm RH :)
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It was very interesting reading back through the old thread.
I think I paid about $1,500.00 for my RH75 back in 1975. I traded a 74 Maico 250 in on it at Mayfairs Suzuki. I bought a RM125S as well later that year. I traded the RH in on a RM250A late in 1975 and then Mayfairs (who I was working for in 1976) swapped the 250 for a 370A early in 1976.
Its funny when you think back it would have been great to keep the bikes you had back then, but money was the problem.
It's interesting to see KTMaico was going to race his RH75. I haven't seen his Maico or the RH on the track yet.