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Clubroom => Competition => Topic started by: Graeme M on August 20, 2011, 08:42:15 am
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The Mr VMX 2011 post ( http://ozvmx.com/community/index.php?topic=20408.msg202945;topicseen#msg202945 ) has been set up to advertise the event.
Discussion about the event can happen here.
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Great initiative. Bit of shame that pre-78 goes in with pre-80(Evo). I understand that numbers might not allow for it. The 4 by 10 min plus 1 lap moto's per Class will find out the less fit amongst us - me included. But on the flip side it will be a real test of man and machine.
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I don`t understand why it is 30 yrs old plus though....sure old bikes but there are plenty of 29 yr old and younger guys that race VMX every week that are being shafted
Call it MR ( over 30 ) VMX
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Your kidden its vintage MX for vintage blokes!!! It should be over 35 years of age. Cheers, John #185 >:(
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With greatest respects John i am not kidding
If you want to alienate the young ( and 29 is not young ) fellas i believe this will do it
We hear every day " But thats what we rode back in the day " If that is the case then 16 yrs of age being the age that you got your open race licence then Pre 75 should be 53 yrs plus, Pre 80 48 yrs plus, Pre 85 43 yrs plus and Pre 90 38 yrs plus
Where did 30 yrs come from?
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Over 30 yrs comes from Vet racing and 90% of the vintage racers are Vets.
Under 30 year olds can race every week on modern bikes and modern tracks just like we did when we were under 30 and they have many years ahead of them to race old bikes.
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I don`t agree with your figures of only 10% of VMX racers is under 30...At Heavens last round at Clarence there was 15 ( that i know of ) out of 50 entries under 25. That equates to a lot more than 10%
Isn`t the over 30 class to cater for mums and dads ( of current riders ( juniors ) to race their moderns...I fail to see what that age group has to do with VMX
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Isn`t the over 30 class to cater for mums and dads ( of current riders ( juniors ) to race their moderns...I fail to see what that age group has to do with VMX
Who do you think started the vintage motocross scene.. do you think it was a bunch of kids who thought it would be good to race around on 20 year old bikes?? It's always been about old guys on old bikes for as long as i can remember.
Didn't look like a bunch of mums and dads racing at the Aussie Vets titles at Coolum a couple of weeks back.
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Im 100% with JohnnyO, as I said over 35's would be more the go. Vintage has always been about old blokes on old bikes. The kids will get their day in the sun in years to come. John #185 :-\
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I tend to agree TED, if we dont have any interest letting the younger ones ride these events then this will sign a death warrant for its future. I no everyone likes to win a trophy, but the best memories are the close racing you have with anyone within a race. To keep the sport moving forward as this event would, I would love to see all seniors having the fun and enjoyment we get out of it . Long live VMX
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This is one event, not a change of rules in general to 'alienate' younger riders. Get it into perspective. Signing a death warrant? Pfft, yeah right.
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Sorry 090 to get up your nose. Ill explain were im coming from. I have a good friend who loves VMX. His youngest lad just 16 has a great passion for the old bikes and this is what will continue seeing these bikes on the track way after our health stops us from riding them. Its these lads that share the passion that i like to see at VMX race days. I realize like the nats you get young riders on sponsored bikes etc, if the idea of the event is to just get everyone back together from days gone by, then well and good. Signing a death warrant was a harsh way of explaining my opinion.
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Isn`t the over 30 class to cater for mums and dads ( of current riders ( juniors ) to race their moderns...I fail to see what that age group has to do with VMX
Who do you think started the vintage motocross scene.. do you think it was a bunch of kids who thought it would be good to race around on 20 year old bikes?? It's always been about old guys on old bikes for as long as i can remember.
Didn't look like a bunch of mums and dads racing at the Aussie Vets titles at Coolum a couple of weeks back.
Would you like to tell us what year model bikes the vets were riding
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Over 30 yrs comes from Vet racing and 90% of the vintage racers are Vets.
Under 30 year olds can race every week on modern bikes and modern tracks just like we did when we were under 30 and they have many years ahead of them to race old bikes.
Hallejujah Johhny ;D.
This old argument comes up every year or so. Rather than waffle on with my own perspective on young 'uns I'll just agree with Johnny O and add...When we first set up VMX back in 1988 there was no provision for under 30's in the original Sup Regs..we just plain didn't want them. Unfortunately pressure from a number of punters forced us to put an under 30 class in under protest. Twenty three years later I still thing that juniors and under 30's have no place racing bikes they have little connection to. It's very rare to find a young guy who has a passion for old bikes and who isn't just treating VMX as another ride to fill in an otherwise empty weekend. Of course there are exceptions like our Michael but on the whole young blokes gouldn't give a fluck about old "rattlers" as they call 'em.
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Over 30 yrs comes from Vet racing and 90% of the vintage racers are Vets.
Under 30 year olds can race every week on modern bikes and modern tracks just like we did when we were under 30 and they have many years ahead of them to race old bikes.
Hallejujah Johhny ;D.
This old argument comes up every year or so. Rather than waffle on with my own perspective on young 'uns I'll just agree with Johnny O and add...When we first set up VMX back in 1988 there was no provision for under 30's in the original Sup Regs..we just plain didn't want them. Unfortunately pressure from a number of punters forced us to put an under 30 class in under protest. Twenty three years later I still thing that juniors and under 30's have no place racing bikes they have little connection to. It's very rare to find a young guy who has a passion for old bikes and who isn't just treating VMX as another ride to fill in an otherwise empty weekend. Of course there are exceptions like our Michael but on the whole young blokes gouldn't give a fluck about old "rattlers" as they call 'em.
Try telling Jarrod Beverly he has no passion and no place for racing old bikes. That is a ridiculous comment Mark
VMX is about the machinery, not the participants being over or under 30. How many VMX mags have come out with a front cover feature other than a pic of a motorcycle. Do people go to Classic Dirt , Show and Shine`s and race meetings to look at the bikes or the riders - owners
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There is no one event in Australia that excludes under 30s that I am aware of in Australia which means under 30s have plenty of ride time inclusive of Classic national events and modern national events (to which we are excluded).
There is also no doubting some under 30s are keen on the vintage scene and enjoy there old bikes
Grid sizes are limited for this event and the decision was made by the committee to have en event for entrants over thirty, nothing sinister in that. It comes down to a numbers only and time restraints in getting through the meeting and if a rider like Gall or Gunter or any older good riders wanted to ride and were displaced by an under 30, where would be the merit in that for both sponsors and spectators.
If the event proves a winner for the future, then and only then may it be considered of intruducing classes for pre30 rides but would most likely need to be run then over two days
Personally I hope not, let us older guys have something for ourselves to enjoy, one event will not kill off VMX, this might even bring a few guys out who dont want to ride with the young guys, just maybe ;)
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Thanks Turtle......Time constraints and grid sizes is fair enough
See ya there
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Firko/Johnny, there's a world of difference between the Frostys and the Jarrod Bs, and the 'guns for hire' (aka "17 year old lunatics").
There's a lot more of the Frostys than you probably realise - and they're typically the personality types that are going to listen to your comments and take them on board, whereas the "lunatics" are likely to ignore you and turn up anyhow...
I fully understand your position on the young guns on borrowed bikes, and 99% agree. But until the conversation acknowledges that many (possibly even the majority) of under 30yo riders do actually have a "legitimate" interest in the older bikes, the conversation will continue to go in circles.
The collary to all of this, is:
If VMX really is about 30+ yo riders on the bikes they rode in their heyday (typically late teens~mid-20s), then pre-95 VMX racing is already well overdue.... ;)
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Back to the MrVMX meeting - I assumed that their O35s only rule was about keeping out the hired guns. My immediate thought was Dougy P, who is an old bike nut like the rest of us, and is doing quite well in the Retro pointscore but will be excluded from racing...
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Back to the MrVMX meeting - I assumed that their O35s only rule was about keeping out the hired guns. My immediate thought was Dougy P, who is an old bike nut like the rest of us, and is doing quite well in the Retro pointscore but will be excluded from racing...
It reads over 30 not over 35, and surely Dougy is over 30, he couldnt be under thirty and be that ugly ;D
Regardless, it is a one off event run in conjunction with Hunter MCC which we hope to be annual event and will not please all. When a rider turns 30, they will qualify as it currently stands and those are the rules.It will give them something to strive for, Grid size and time restraints are the issue.
Invitations have been sent to East coast clubs so possibility of being held elsewhere is strong. We just need to gauge the first meeting by attendance and interest from the community in general
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Wondering what the two age groups would be eg.30-45, 45-plus, or would this be based on ages of the entries for each era. The mention of a one off event is obviously not the focus as perpetual trophy is mentioned, does this mean the event would always be at the same place. ???
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maybe its designed to focus on the actual riders of that era , the heydays of mr mx because it wasnt about the bikes back then and what year they were made in , it was the riders and this might just drag out some of the actual riders from those events back in that time frame who just like to meet up with some or their old adversaries / teams mates / and support riders, only a thought ? cant see anything wrong with enticing those riders back onto the grid ;) see yah there i will have my marking pen out and getting some memorbilia, forgot to get it back then too busy riding in the events.
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To be totally honest, I tend to think that for this "one off" event, over 30 isn't old enough either. :o
It's a fine line, annoying the young ones who, in all probablility, are the future of VMX competition, whilst trying to foster the older riders to continue racing. For me, I'd be leaning towards the latter group, because the younger group has an event such at the Australia Classic MX titles to strut their stuff.
No doubt the organisers have attempted to "strike a balance" between old (possibly less riders) and young (more riders) and have decided U30 is it.
There is no doubt however that it is a great idea and has the potential to turn into a annual feature event for the sport of VMX, alongside the Aussie Titles, the Conondale Classic, Classic Dirt and other similar well known events.
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It reads over 30 not over 35, and surely Dougy is over 30, he couldnt be under thirty and be that ugly ;D
Indeed, over30.
You're right - he's plenty ugly, but I'm pretty sure he's still in his twenties.
If ugliness relates to getting older, you must be about 150 years old, Turtle.
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What I hate is the young blokes that race VMX because they can't cut it with the modern bikes. I gave up racing the modern bikes because of the young ones with that win at all cost attitude. Jack
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VMX'rs
Just a couple of quick notes about the event.
The brief for this event was to keep it simple and to be a bit different to the other VMX events that are happening across our wide brown land. Along with this was the notion of getting back to "where it all started" with what was undoubtedly the most prestigious event on the motocross calendar.
Unsure of how the event would be recieved or supported ( by number of entries ), we decided to have a one day format with limited grids and the age restraint in place for the first event. The success of this first event will determine where the event goes to in the future. Who knows, maybe it will turn into a multiple round series across a number of states but we need to crawl before we run , hence how we have arrived at our current format. We are hoping that the event becomes "bigger than Ben Hur". We wanted to get at least four rounds of racing in for each era in the one day, hence why we have limited the number of entries to one full grid.
The fact is that we will not be able to please 100% of the VMX community with the format,( so I invite "constructive" critiscism to be emailed to myself at [email protected]) . We have to start somewhere so please understand that there has been quite a lot of discussion, planning, thought and time put in by a number of VMX enthusiasts to get to the point where we can make this event happen.
So please, if you would like to see this event format succeed (as much as we do ), the best way to do it is get your entries in from September 1 and then bring yourself and as many supporters as you can along to the event and help relive the glory days of Aussie MX.
Cheers
Dan
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I for one think it's a great format you've laid out and i hope it's successfull.. it would be great to see it grow into a multi round series.
I'm keen to ride it and i think it's just what VMX needs.
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Thanks Dan for putting everyone on the same page. Pre 75's might have to hang on tight by the end of the day and wear two kidney belts cos slowing down is not an option. Hope its well supported by the legends to help the memories come flooding back.
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The plan is for the track to be quickly groomed before the Pre 75 era gets back onto the track.
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" Is the Pre 80's class for pre 80's bikes. Or is it Evo regs where we chase those darn 82 490 Maico's around the track"
Tim
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" Is the Pre 80's class for pre 80's bikes. Or is it Evo regs where we chase those darn 82 490 Maico's around the track"
Tim
I'm reading it as pre '80 not Evo so there'll be no '81 Maico's..
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Scrutineering Will be performed on all machines – for safety and eligibility
Pre-1975, Pre-1985 & Pre-1990 – per MOMS
Pre-1980 – per MOMS Evolution rules
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Scrutineering Will be performed on all machines – for safety and eligibility
Pre-1975, Pre-1985 & Pre-1990 – per MOMS
Pre-1980 – per MOMS Evolution rules
So is it pre '80 or Evolution?? You can't have pre '80 with Evo rules because that includes '80/'81 YZ's and Maico's etc.
It's one or the other..
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Not sure,
I just posted a segment from the Guide lines
http://api.ning.com/files/he0WNIgMTRJGq-JZ3tAUkTCEPPhejKEdufcAhoPS5Z2dFM9ZkK-HY33mujhx9gp0IK9Z25wmrHob0qnX-U3B-0SWUMDkSZ9O/EventGuidelinesMrVintageMX2011.doc
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It is Pre 80 , with EVO guidlines applying ie air cooled, drum brakes, non linkage suspension.
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It is Pre 80 , with EVO guidlines applying ie air cooled, drum brakes, non linkage suspension.
Ok cool so no '81 YZ's, Maico's etc.. Just trying to sort which bike to ride ;)
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Sounds like a great event and l for one will be making the trip, have to see if l can find pre 90 big bore buy then, anybody no of 89 CR500 forsale any were?
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It is Pre 80 , with EVO guidlines applying ie air cooled, drum brakes, non linkage suspension.
;D
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Who will be Pre 85 MR VMX ?????????????????? Any thoughts / suggestions ????????????????
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A Kiwi
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Dan you will be up there with the best,
last time i saw you it looked like you had been working out a bit :o ( looking buff :P )
neal from heaven would be up there and son but i would say neals son may be under 30 years to race.
I watched neals son ride at the last meet at lakes he was miles in front of the rest of the pack (a modern racer for sure )
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I am a kiwi teddy ;D do i count :-\
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Unfortunately I won't be riding this year, hopefully next year. I will be doing the officialdom stuff this year and trying to ensure that the event goes "off". Can't wait to watch the racing though! Should be excellent.
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Who will be Pre 85 MR VMX ?????????????????? Any thoughts / suggestions ????????????????
Glen Bell if he turns up.. Dean Burt otherwise or James Deakin if we can talk him into riding. :)
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I think Burty will ride Pre 80
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Dan, How do you determine a MR VMX if there is 4 classes...or are there 4 MR VMX`s
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I think Burty will ride Pre 80
I was wondering about that except that his RM400 is an 80 model..
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It may depend on how many classes you go in ,and scored on finished places so theres only one mr vmx
may be that way ,need to ask dan
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There will be one for each Era.
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I think Burty will ride Pre 80
I was wondering about that except that his RM400 is an 80 model..
He tells me it`s a `79
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I think Burty will ride Pre 80
I was wondering about that except that his RM400 is an 80 model..
He tells me it`s a `79
I guess it will be for this race ;D
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I'm pretty sure the Viper/ Vic group allowed the RM'T to run in pre-80 as it is so close to the N. Carry over?
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I'm pretty sure the Viper/ Vic group allowed the RM'T to run in pre-80 as it is so close to the N. Carry over?
I think you're right, they just had to use N model plastics to look the part..
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My opinion should be Evo class, allows for all twinshock aircooled bikes, non linkage, disc brake, etc.
Evo class works very well in both VCM & Viper series.
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Pre-81 makes more sense, IMO.
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Entries will open for the event on the 1st September 2011, only two more sleeps so get ready to download your entry form and get it sent away to ensure you don't miss out.
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Will I be able to enter two classes?
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This might turn into our version of Farleigh
Farleigh/Barleigh :D
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The only castles at Raymond Terrace are made from empty Wild Turkey cans around the camp fire in the backyard of a housing commission house.
;D
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Being that close to "HARDSHIP" we should all get a grant to go then. :D :D :D
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090,
yes you can enter two classes but just be mindful that races will be running back to back so if you thinking about entering era's that run back to back, it may be a challenge. But if you entered say Pre 75 era and Pre 85 era, you would have the Pre 80 era race in between to recover/re-group and get to the line. All depends on how fit you are feeling but you most certainly can enter more than one class. Cheers.
Dan
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How fit o9o is-wash your mouth out-he is a god, in his own lunchbreak, FFS.!!!!
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Back-Back----Reads like a National Title ;D :P ...
go get em 090 8)
cheers A
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Entries open tomorrow.
Northern Districts MCC members check your email for your entry form.
Cheers
Shaun
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You'd have to be keen to ride 2 classes.. You would either have back to back 12min races 4 times or you'd be in every second race all day long!!
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Entry recieved,printed, filled in and posted, looking foward to the meeting it should be great............ 8)
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All details and forms here:
http://www.ozvmx.com/MrVMX2011/mrvmx2011.htm
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is camping at the the track available,
cheers Worms
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Camping is available at the track.
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Reading the sub. reg's a second class can be entered provided there is a vacancy. So it's not first in best dressed. A rider only doing one class gets preference over a rider wanting to do a second class in the same class ( if you know what I mean). I will enter all four classes in case at least one of them isn't full then.
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entry is in the post, it will be nice to get out of Qld for a while.
i was going to ask how many mexicans are coming, but that would be shit stirring and taboo ;D
Cheers Worms
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i was going to ask how many mexicans are coming, but that would be shit stirring and taboo ;D
:D
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If the Vic vs Qwinsland conflict resumes, we'll set the locals onto you both. :D
PS: Entry sent.
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Jeez I'll have to pull a wheel off the outfit and enter--now which wheel should it be????
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Posted my Entry to day to beat the rush.
Look like Harf of Austraila will be represented Old , vic , nsw. and ACT / snowy Mt
Now to get the bike going .
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Hi 555, good to see you back but I reckon you never really left :-*, It is a dilemma as to which race to enter, better get entry off tomorrow as I reckon it will fill quick, wouldnt like to miss out on this one in its first year ;)
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Per 1980 for me . allway wanted to build a 1979/1978 400cc .
but why ??? it would be out classed in heaven in the evo 500cc class.
Now I have a reson to get it out of the roof of the shead and get it on the track..
Just got to put it back together
Hay Ross ( Turtle.Inc ) Us Mountain men still have the ten buck cup . could be a good place to try and win it Mate ??
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Hope the entries are flooding in. Can any one give us an idea of what the track is like or maybe tyre suggestions, Evo 250......
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Hey Popeye,
Track is A Class MX Nationals scary fast and very rough as for tyre choice if you ain't going to run top 3 it won't matter ;D
Hugo
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Hope the entries are flooding in. Can any one give us an idea of what the track is like or maybe tyre suggestions, Evo 250......
It's pretty much hard pack with a few rocks but from memory the straight was a bit sandy.
You mean pre 80 250 mate..
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The track will be specially modified and prepared for VMX by the track maintenance team who is led by a fellow VMX rider.
The race order will be Pre75 followed by Pre80 through to Pre90 there will then be a short interval while the track is groomed for the next round of races.
The Pre75’s should have the best opportunity to show their best racing in every round ;).
Entry sent and training began today ;D :P
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What Training . Shit
I have just got home form the Club where I have lifting weight 575mm at a time .
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search Barleigh Ranch mx on youtube to see the track
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czpdPMeCTVg
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Don't worry 555 you have no idea what I mean by training besides I could train for a year and still not see which way you went :-[ just hope I give Ross a run for it if he is in Pre80 ;D.
That KTM400 sounds interesting.
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Me too
If Ross beats me I will neaver hear the end of it ..
But I do have the Ten buck Cup that Ross wants .......
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Yeah pre 80 250 John, just didn't no hard pack or soft, and l don't expect to run anywhere near the front just want to have fun and stay shiney side up.
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And the return of Montynut to the forum, well i'll be stuffed, pretty soon, Noel and Snowy and Ricki Damo Hardman and other forum lurkers will put up a posts, is this the form resurgence NSW has been waiting for, stay tuned ;D
Well if you and 555 are riding pre 80, so will I, Just hope Dean Burt doesn't lap us to many times and cut our laps short :D
As for the 10 buck cup, will save that for Canberra Dirt track 555. will have to start getting Hunter boys keen, maybe this time, last 4 over the line :)
090 riding all classes, better bring some oxygen with ya Brad, that is a lot of laps, even for a Queenslander, I'll even chip in for an Mr VMX ironman trophy ;D :P
Looks like the Pre 80 class has some momentum/interest atm, will be interesting to see which class fills first
Great to see all states involved, hope it gets the support it deserves
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Time to use all these fast bits Ive been collecting, 79 model cr250/360? Pre 80 for me too. ;D
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I'm in . 4 X 10 min plus 1 will expose a very dodgy fitness regime but I will try try to look at it as a challenge. It will only take some willpower won't it?
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I'll be doing back to backs, Pre 80 and Pre85, so I'll take that oxygen on offer, stuff 090, he's in training and so young I'm supprised he can enter ;D
cheers worms
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I've heard that entries are rolling in so don't leave it too late. Avoid disappointment :'(
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My comment on the under 30s discussion. In or out I'm gunning to beat the little bastards any way!
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Entries are rolling in fast, so if you haven't got yours in yet, make sure that you do so sooner rather than later so as not to miss out.
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Just a little note here, I have a 20 year son who rides we have the luxury of our own track at our house. I have a shed full of bikes including a 2009 YZ 250 2 stroke plus often new KTM 4 strokes and the bike he rides the most by choice is my 81 KTM 250. :-\
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Only a few weeks to go! Can't wait for this one.
So who's going to be testing at Barleigh Ranch on the Saturday? Maybe we can organise a bbq Saturday afternoon so we can socialise in a relaxed manner before the elbows are out on Sunday morning ;D
Anyone keen?
Cheers
Shaun
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Pre85 and Pre80 entries are rolling in 8)
Pre75s are strong and Pre90 is filling.
Don't leave it until the last minute as entries are limited to a grid of 40 maximum.
This could be the event of the year for use Over 30s. It is just one meeting so it should not be an issue. A good oppurtunity for the younger guys to pit for their Dad maybe ;D
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Any idea what the age splits are going to be yet?
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Thye age split can not be done until entries are finalised as it all depends on the makeup (age wise) of each field. Each Era will have two age groups with equal number in each.
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Only a few weeks to go! Can't wait for this one.
So who's going to be testing at Barleigh Ranch on the Saturday? Maybe we can organise a bbq Saturday afternoon so we can socialise in a relaxed manner before the elbows are out on Sunday morning ;D
Anyone keen?
Cheers
Shaun
HI Shaun,
Looking forward to this one as well. Only wish I had a second bike so I could ride 2 classes! I'm keen for the BBQ Saturday, we'll be up there Saturday practicing. Count me in.
Cheers
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Time for quick update, Pre85 Era is now full so we are in the process of taking 5 reserves for this era. If you enter into the Pre85 and don't get to ride in that era , you will then have the option of riding in the Pre90 Era providing that is does not reach capacity.
There are still spots available in Pre75, Pre80 and Pre90 at this stage, so if you are thinking of getting an entry in , don't delay as we now have only two weeks till what is sure to be a cracker of an event and one not to miss out on.
Even if you don't want to ride, come along for the day and get involved by being a spectator. There are some really good vantage points at the track for watching so come along for a look as I am sure that there will be some great racing on display.
There will be a canteen operating all day Sunday as well.
If you would like any further information on the event, don't hesitate to contact me via a pm or email [email protected] .
Hope to see you there.
Dan
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I can have a pre-90 bike available, if anyone wants to have a go.
Only catch is that if my bike stops, I get to pull rank as team manager... ;D
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A bit disappointing that the pre75 era is the slowest to fill. I will be trying to make it on Saturday arvo to have a run around the track.
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Yeah,
Come on you pre 75 blokes, support this event and get an entry in. There are plans in place to have the track groomed and the jumps "softened" to suit the older bikes. Pre 75 will be the first race in each round and will benefit from between round grooming. Add that to having two age groups within the class and what more could you ask for?
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Pre85 was always going to be the 'big' field given that it includes several years of EVO bikes and the usual Pre85 bikes.
All riders with '78 & '79 models should be lining up for the Pre80 class. We can all watch Dean Burt do his stuff ;D ;D
The Pre75 era is when the whole MR Motocross history started. If the idea had not attracted such a following in those early years then it many never have progressed like it did. This is a chance to revisit those very early Mr MX days. I hope the 4 x10min +1 motos is not detering people. Remember no marshalling and 10min +1 is probably only 2 laps more than most races we do in pre75 8).
The Pre90 riders need to get their entry in, you do not need an '89 model to be competative. This is a real oppurtunity for Pre90 to really get established in the VMX community in NSW and show that it has arrived, is healthy and is a great era and that would really be a great thing for our sport generally ;) :).
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I'm looking forward to this. A lot of effort's gone into getting it up and running so I reckon it'll be a great asset to our sport that will hopefully grow each year. Who remembers when Condo was bigger than the Nats? Some meets grow to become icons...the CRC's another.
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Who`s Dean Burt?
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Dean Durt :-[ ::) Typo :-[ :-[
Corrected
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Dan my entry will be in the mail Monday for the pre 75 Class, I filled it out last night, still have to fix the foot peg I broke off the MX360 >:( at Canowindra in the first race.
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Who`s Dean Burt?
While on the subject i wonder if he's riding pre 85 because of the YZ465 forks in his bike or pre 80?
How strict are the scrutineers going to be??
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good question long way to go to find out you cant ride your class
and the other class it might qualify for is full :'(
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Bean Durt-sounds like an old VMX racer even
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Hey Ted,
Who's Clit Debner :o :o :o
Heard he is riding your bike.
Whats wrong with riding it yourself????
Damo
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F#$k - just realised my pre-75 bike is blown up. More late nights ahead... :-X
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is that same clint debner that was sponsored by yamaha years ago!!!
if it is he wouldnt be over 30 or would he ????
fark im up against a whos who ex mister mx stars dean burt now clint debner whos next ??
im only a clubby :)
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Hey Ted,
Who's Clit Debner :o :o :o
Heard he is riding your bike.
Whats wrong with riding it yourself????
Damo
Clint is my crane driver
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Crane driver or "trench digger" Ted?? ;D ;D ;D
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Care to list the other 39 riders in Pre 85?
Or just Clint.
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Me - now ya only have 38 to go Ted ... ;D
...Chad Reed could be racing there for all I care and I will still be in it and having fun !! :)
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I'm riding pre 85 as well.
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I'll be on the grid too, but I wont be racing , just supporting the event, unless 090 is next to me, then bring it on!
cheers worms
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Pre 85 phhhfftt, you modern boys crack me up ;D bring on the pre 75 :-*
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Pre 85 phhhfftt, you modern boys crack me up ;D bring on the pre 75 :-*
... which really means "The only bike of Turtle's that runs is his pre-75 bike".
;D
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I'll be in the pre 78 field as well, so all you mexicans have a chance of smashing worms ;D
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Who`s Dean Burt?
While on the subject i wonder if he's riding pre 85 because of the YZ465 forks in his bike or pre 80?
How strict are the scrutineers going to be??
Deans RM400 will have the RM400 forks on it and be perfectly legal for Pre 80. I hope the scrutineering is as strict as can be.
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Pre 85 phhhfftt, you modern boys crack me up ;D bring on the pre 75 :-*
... which really means "The only bike of Turtle's that runs is his pre-75 bike".
;D
You are really good ;D (except its not running)
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Deans RM400 will have the RM400 forks on it and be perfectly legal for Pre 80. I hope the scrutineering is as strict as can be.
when did we move to pre 80 ?? i thought it was still pre 78 ( 77 models) or do you mean EVO wich is open except for travel.
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Deans RM400 will have the RM400 forks on it and be perfectly legal for Pre 80. I hope the scrutineering is as strict as can be.
when did we move to pre 80 ?? i thought it was still pre 78 ( 77 models) or do you mean EVO wich is open except for travel.
It's pre 80 just for this meeting..
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Mr VMX is running Pre75, Pre80, Pre85 & Pre90. We felt that this fits better with the theme of revisiting Mr Motocross when you look back at the original series there is sort of four periods which are roughly reflected these eras.
It also differentiates this from everyday VMX along with the 30 plus age group. Mr VMX is not trying to change the status quo or rewrite the conventions of VMX. It is a bit like the original Mr Motocross series itself. It had its own formula and its own style and Mr VMX is the same.
It is just something different. Pre78s will race with ‘78s & ‘79s. Pre85 will race with the later Evo models just as they did in the day 8). Will it be good? We think so and it is something new and will be interesting to see. I can not wait!!! ;D
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who is this turtle man who,s legend travels before him I for one am scared of racing him
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Mr VMX is running Pre75, Pre80, Pre85 & Pre90. We felt that this fits better with the theme of revisiting Mr Motocross when you look back at the original series there is sort of four periods which are roughly reflected these eras.
It also differentiates this from everyday VMX along with the 30 plus age group. Mr VMX is not trying to change the status quo or rewrite the conventions of VMX. It is a bit like the original Mr Motocross series itself. It had its own formula and its own style and Mr VMX is the same.
It is just something different. Pre78s will race with ‘78s & ‘79s. Pre85 will race with the later Evo models just as they did in the day 8). Will it be good? We think so and it is something new and will be interesting to see. I can not wait!!! ;D
This Meeting is a brilliant initiative! It is the talk of the VMX community down here in Sydney and from what I hear all are looking forward to it, many names from the past are coming out of the woodwork to either ride or watch. Having only discovered VMX 18 months ago, the format of this meeting strikes me as the ideal end of year bash to bring us all together. The organizing committee are also putting in a huge effort to put on a great show on a well prepared VMX friendly track. We couldn't ask for more. Montynut, is there a plan to have an introduction to the Legends of the sport, similar to CD8? I can't wait! With regards to the classes, I ride a 250 and I could ask why isn't there a 250 class. I don't think that's the point though. As Montynut says, the Mr MX formula was unique and it was certainly successful, the closer we stick to that formula, the more great memories we'll all have flood back. After a year of 3&4 lap sprint races, this is a great opportunity to test the endurance of man & machine. I recon, no matter what we are riding, there are going to be a few of us who are going to be struggling to hold on to the thing in Moto 3&4.
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hey sean pete lovering here havent had aride in long time coming to play in pre 75 with ya you not going ride over the top of
me this time are you carnt wait to catch up with all the guys see you soon pete
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as the ideal end of year bash to bring us all together
Well said/written 8)
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I'm only going for the 10 minute moto's ;D
worms
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I was starting to wonder if you were real or a figment of my imagination pete. But its not me u need to beat its the turtleman merrick his legend travels before him
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There will be a red KTM 250 in pre 75 that will be almost unbeatable ;D The bike is perfect and the Gun is loaded. ;)
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Gents,
Trying to get some atmosphere happening for next weekend. Anybody got some memorablia,
stories etc we could duplicate and display? PM me if you can help.
Thanks,
AL161
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ok, time to start the training regime ;D dont want to be too overdone for these events!
worms
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Yeah Trev just got off the treadmill myself. Plan on tapering and carbo loading friday night. Hang over should have died down by race morning Sunday so I will be in peak form ;D ;D ;D.
Cheers
Shaun
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Could any of you QLD Blokes pick up a bike frame{ Husky }from Tweed Heads, happy to help with fuel money ETC.Thanks Birko.
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Could anyone coming to the meeting from Qld please look in the Bike Transport section. Any help will be most appreciated. Thanks.
AL161
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maybe! a frame, would not fit a bike though
what class's are you racing, are you foe or friend
send me a pm with details , cheers worms
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hang on, i dont think i can carry anything other Yamahas ;D.
worms
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Surely you've got a length of rope, Worms. That way it will be a ''light-weight special'' by the time you get there. :D :D
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Thanks Worms , will send some details. Racing a Honda in Pre 80 :-*
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I hope the rain stays away from this event,
Its Looks like its going to be a good event 8)
we have had some bad luck with the rain at bike meets this year ,up newcastle way.
Its raining now and weather man said tonight rain for sat arvo and sunday :'(
So may need to take the wet weather gear for this one ( quote hope not )
This Will test the rider and machine for sure fingers crossed for no rain ;)
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Its not going to rain. Its not going to rain, It's not going to rain.
Please rain stay away. Piss down Sunday evening ;)
One last little thing for you Pre80 entrants. Please don't show up with 43mm forks, TLS brakes or other Post 79 major components on your bike. You have entered in Pre80 so please remember that you need to present a legal bike. Pre85 is full so you may be disappoint if you do. It would also avoid any agro from all concerned :)
This is meeting is looking great. It's not going to rain OK
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is that same clint debner that was sponsored by yamaha years ago!!!
if it is he wouldnt be over 30 or would he ????
fark im up against a whos who ex mister mx stars dean burt now clint debner whos next ??
im only a clubby :)
Clint scratched due to gearbox woes with the bike. To say he`s disappointed is an understatement.
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is that same clint debner that was sponsored by yamaha years ago!!!
if it is he wouldnt be over 30 or would he ????
fark im up against a whos who ex mister mx stars dean burt now clint debner whos next ??
im only a clubby :)
Clint scratched due to gearbox woes with the bike. To say he`s disappointed is an understatement.
Ted,
Sounds like an expensive rebuild, especially hard due to the fact that YZ465 gearboxes are as rare as rocking horse shit.
Hope his crane drivers wage can cover it :)
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I`ve got a spare box. This thing chews up shift forks and they are impossible to find new. Muddo says a 490 four speed fits straight in. Its suppose to be a stronger box.
Am looking for one of these.
After being in Clint`s shed i wouldn`t mind being on his wage ;D
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is that same clint debner that was sponsored by yamaha years ago!!!
if it is he wouldnt be over 30 or would he ????
fark im up against a whos who ex mister mx stars dean burt now clint debner whos next ??
im only a clubby :)
Clint scratched due to gearbox woes with the bike. To say he`s disappointed is an understatement.
pppphhhooh thank god for that....nah just jokin .. im disapointed as well it wouldve
been cool to watch him race an old vmx bike 8)
hey damo have u asked your avatar if she can b our 30 sec board girl yet ;D
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30 sec board girl nice touch andrew may make a few on the start gate get off line ;D
it will be prob be only a 5 sec board for this event :D.
can our pit crew use pit boards to hurry us up at times 8)
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The MX's blow-up at Canowindra was worse than I thought, so I'm out for pre-75.
:'(
Pre-90 good to go, though. :)
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You mean this elite maintenance team didn't fix it !!??
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Looks like the boys are having praie time there HARDO ,for the poor little yammie laying dead :'(
cant see any spanners in action ;D
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Nah, Nath dropped 5c in the mud
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Nah, Nath dropped 5c in the mud
;D
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You guys! :P
Typical broken-up top ring (too many revs on a sloppy piston), which is not a problem.
The problem was that some of the broken ring is in the main bearings and I have neither the time or motivation to fix it.
Taking the YZ-X (pictured) to get roosted in pre-80 instead. :)
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Just reading through the final instructions and it appear we have another race added to the program, "The Bruce 'Magoo' McFarland memorial trophy"
It reads - this will be awarded to the winner of a one off race to be held at the conclusion of the four rounds of racing. It will be open to the overall top 10 finishers in each era, on a bike of there choice from any of the eras represent. the race will be fifteen minutes plus 1 lap in duration.
how good is that, well done to the organisers of this 8) hope this carries over to all future Mr VMX events ;)
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that's excellent news - we had a Magoo Clubman award at the Crystal Brook Nats this year. Well done!
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Magoo Trophy cool, sweet cheeks bruce would have loved it
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With some luck Shane Wilson from Wiltek can win back the beaut trophy his company has sponsored, so he can take it back home then bring it back next year!
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I'm very pleased that this trophy has found an event where it will be respected.
Two thumbs up to both the Hunter club and Shane.
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Two sleeps to go 8)
Bikes ready body maybe not ;D
should be a great event
A big effort by all involved ;)
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Hope all you guys and gals catch a break with the weather. It was a pretty crap day on the far south coast and its heading up. Safe racing all.
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Burty at it again ;D ;D
Pre 90 Race 1
He won :D :D
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Browny on the Mighty 74 400 Husky
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Burty pre 80 race 1
He won :D :D
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So it looks like dust wasn't a problem ;),any results yet,apart from Burty cleaning up?
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There will be a red KTM 250 in pre 75 that will be almost unbeatable ;D The bike is perfect and the Gun is loaded. ;)
Not almost...It was unbeatable...4 from 4, Geoff Ballard 4 from 4 in Pre 85, Burty 8 from 8 in Pre 80 and Pre 90 and also in the Bruce Macfarland race
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How much fun was that what a great event, hope its on again next year
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GREAT EVENT GUYS!!!!
yes, worms left the building early, but I had a fat time riding Saturday, so when the rains came before racing on Sunday, we did practice and 1 rnd of racing in the mud, with Damo lapping me on the line" bastard"!!!!!!!!!!
I got my fill @ upseting a few at scrutineering, but hey there the rules ;D and with the Qantas strike it proved wisely heading early as the amount of traffic on the hwy was crazy, anyway 11hrs later we got home after driving in heavy rains for about 7 of it.
all I can say is "10 minute plus 1 lap lives" and what a great event, just a shame about the rain.
Cheers Worms, well done guys, but how fast is Dean Burt and Damo ;D
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great event,weather not so good.Thanks to the Hunter club officials and sponsors.War of attrition in pre75,our day cut short by mechanical issues,red KTM bloody quick.Cheers to ACT and Snowy mountains blokes especially Dennis for letting us have a chew on his spicy sausage (and your right you do get a 2nd hit a bit further along). :D
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Congratulations to the Hunter Club for putting on such a quality event. It's a pity about the rain but it didn't seem to slow the fast guys down. Congratulations to Burty, GB and the guy on the KTM for their wins and to Brad 090 for making it hard for them. Like Worms I bailed early after getting drenched in the downpour but I saw enough to realise that this event is a welcome addition to the sport.
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Mr vmx even made sunday night news 8)
It Was a big turn out ;)shame about the rain I chicken out after the first race the TT500 is a mud pusher .
Like to thank all that made it happen it was a great idea ...
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Can we have a round at Tivoli next year. PLEASE.
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TV coverage that made it onto the local Newcastle news last night. Cut and paste the link into your web browser, hopefully should work.
http://www.nbntv.com.au/index.php/2011/10/30/mr-motocross-rides-again-in-the-hunter/
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what a great day had an absolute ball down there an im hoping its on again
next year... damn shame it bloody pissed down rain right on the first race but its happened at
a few races ive been to this year so im sorta use to it...
thanks again to all the officials and race organisers for puttin on such a great race .....
PS... did any one get some footage of a pre 85 500 honda rider jumping off his
bike cause his throttle was stuck wide open up on top of the hill in the second race ;D
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Bloody shame about the rain but not much could be done :'(. Stack was almost at wits end after building the track three times and at the end of practice it was such a sweet track. Then it started pissing down as the Pre75s lined up :(
The fact we got through the whole program pretty much on time speak volumes for the team on the day. The flaggies where magic, out in absolute down pours at times for the whole day. Hunter Club members, Ulysses Club members, friends and family did the duties so we could play in the mud 8).
I had a great day regardless of the rain. Took all day today to clean everything and get to see what the Monty looked like again just to make sure I'd brought the right bike home ;D. But hey the worst day at the track is still better than the best day at work ;D.
Seeing so many riders fronting for the Magoo Challenge (it was a CHALLENGE) including all the soon to be crowned Mr VMXs was also great. I could almost see Bruce looking down having a laugh and giving the thumbs up ;) :).
Definitely a meeting to include on your list for next year if at all possible.
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WOW Bloodly top event thanks to all who got the mr vmx going and the flaggers , stack and crew on the track prep (piece piss on the pre 75 bike)P.S anyone got photos to post
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Can't thank all that put it on enough for a great event. Despite the torrential rain and difficult conditions it still ran smoothly and although some of the races seemed like a ride for survival, most of the guys still had a big grin at the end of the day.
Although the track was slow due to the rain, the short time out in practice in the dry gave us an idea of how it could have been, and although demanding suited pre 75 pretty well.
Great to have a lively announcer adding that extra bit of excitement to the races with a bit of music and rider interviews, had that original MR MX feel about it.
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As a rider it was a top event, the track was water logged but it was still fun to ride (love the commentators reference "through the swim pool" that was gold!), a great effort by all involved and a big thanks to all the officals and flaggies that stood in the rain (and thunder / lighting!) to help us blokes ride.
To stacky and the crew great effort on the track and had it of not rained the track would have been primo for racing, it really was well prepared track.
To the Hunter club what a great effort by all involved and many thanks for making us Queenslanders welcome.
To all the die-hard fans that stood in the pissing down rain, well what else can I say but you are real fans!
Now in my other hat as a sponsor I would have to say lets do it all again next yearso yes I will be back for again for more!
Lets hope it can become a fixture on the events calander and lock it in early everyone.
Regards
Shane Wiltec Wilson
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Many thanks.
To the Hunter Club and to all the officials and every body that helped out , a great day was had by all i did not see one unhappy face.
I had a mixed day in pre 75 with bike problems and a crash in race two in the first corner i hope all are OK.
The 10 min plus one let's you come back if you get a bad start, That,s me last every time.
Let hope this gets bigger.
Thanks Chris.
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Dean was lapping @ 2 minutes flat on Saturday in practice on His Rm 400 which would give you around 5 laps ...... what did this equate to when the aqua turn up 4 laps
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The ‘lively’ commentator was Harry Ham, the father of new KTM Race Team boss & racer Danny Ham, so he knows how to talk Motocross, (and plenty of bullsh..t too). He was a fellow member of Belmont & District MCC.
Many thanks have to go to Glenn Pickering, Dan Tydd, Mick Connolly, Roger Starkey, Greg Scriven & Les Richters as the main men for getting the concept off the ground. So lets see next year get even better.
I’m just glad I survived all the ‘free beauty pack’ mud on bike and body so I could pinch the Merrick Accountancy sponsored trophy…thanks ever so much Turtle!
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Thought people might like to see the results
Pre75
30-49yrs
1st Peter Horwood (KTM) & Mr VMX Pre75
2nd Peter Lovering (Maico)
3rd Ross Merrick (Maico)
50yrs+
1st Mick McMillan (Bultaco)
2nd Noel Lewis (CZ)
3rd Greg Bilton (Yamaha)
Pre 80
30-49yrs
1st Dean Burt (Suzuki) & Mr VMX Pre80
2nd Robert ‘Beetle’ Bailey (Suzuki)
3rd Sean Hardman (Yamaha)
50yrs+
1st Greg Scriven (Montesa)
2nd Micheal Harding (Honda)
3rd Kenneth Swan (Honda)
Pre85
30-46yrs
1st Brad van Barrelo (Maico)
Craig Rodson (Honda)
Chris Drabsch (Maico)
47yrs+
1st Geoff Ballard (Maico) & Mr VMX Pre85
2nd Neil Gabriel (Yamaha)
3rd Richard Jolly (Honda)
Pre90
30-43yrs
1st Dean Burt (Kawasaki) & Mr VMX Pre90
2nd Adam O’Connor (Suzuki)
3rd Craig Lancaster (Honda)
44yrs+
1st David Middleton (Honda)
2nd Rod Neil (Honda)
3rd Shane Wilson (Honda)
Magoo Challenge
Dean Burt (Kawasaki)
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Bit of luck involved I must say ;D
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The generous throphy sponsors of each event
Pre-1975 Mr VMX perpetual Klub Kevlar
Pre-1980 Mr VMX perpetual VMX Media Partnership Pty Ltd
Pre-1985 Mr VMX perpetual Wiltec Industries
Pre-1990 Mr VMX perpetual Northern Districts MCC
Pre-1975 Masters Hunter Insurance Services P/L
Pre-1975 Vets Ross Merrick Accounting & Taxation Services
Pre-1980 Masters Engineered Environments P/L
Pre-1980 Vets Track & Trail Motorcycles
Pre-1985 Masters Hunter Quarries
Pre-1985 Vets Hunter Outdoor Equipment
Pre-1990 Masters Singleton Motorcycles
Pre-1990 Vets MX Central
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2nd Noel Lewis (CZ)
3rd Richard Jolly (Honda)
Congradulations Noel and there's only one Richard Jolly-he'd have to be a West Aussie :P ;D
Thanks all for the photos and after event reports-good stuff !!
cheers A
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hows your shoulder hardman
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Hi EKKA, hows it going ,
Hows the TT project coming along, PS; am building a F11 pre 75 250 for the Nats,hope to see you there
Graham
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Dean was lapping @ 2 minutes flat on Saturday in practice on His Rm 400 which would give you around 5 laps ...... what did this equate to when the aqua turn up 4 laps
I think you will find he was even quicker than that in the wet ;D
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Great day but still getting the bike clean, how's everyone else going?
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Very corrosive water/mud, every thing that was bare alloy is tarnished and all bare metal instantly rusty. Bike aged a bit more than usual.
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Bit of luck involved I must say ;D
Having a well prepared bike, staying upright & placing highly in 4 x 6 lap motos in what would have to be some of the worst conditions you could race in doesn't sound like luck to me! Its sounds like a true Motocross win. Well played Monty
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Very corrosive water/mud, every thing that was bare alloy is tarnished and all bare metal instantly rusty. Bike aged a bit more than usual.
Your not wrong there!
Brett had too wash the bikes twice to get the mud out and well lets just say the new DG bare pipe looks like it was one from the early 80's!!
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Srivo & eric pretty sure u wont have to worry about me at bulladellah I am havimg a plate put on my clavical on thursday as its snapped clean in half and is a little far apart to heal quickly on its own
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we ride our Moderns in sandy gritt a lot at the local forrest and klean bikes with water and liquid dyamo (blue liquid) they come up like new when hosed off.
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That because they are new
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Sorry to hear that Sean. Hope all goes well for you. See you next season.
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Pretty much all been said but have to say again, a great, well run format and thanks again to all organisers involved.
I guess it was a wee bit wet on the day, taken a week to clean all the crud off everything.
There were lots of cameras about so please post your pics.
ps, anyone know how to download and save the NBN News wmv video?
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There were lots of cameras about so please post your pics.
Great event to watch ,
Track looked like hard work in the wet .
Would be fun to try a few laps around there (without all the water ;D)
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Regards ,
Steve
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Its well past the event but just found some great photos of the day on flickr. Don't know who the photographer is but judging by the quality must have some good gear and knows how to use it.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tcm_photography/6301596649/lightbox/
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That 450 looks good, did it see track time at all?
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No it was only there for show. Still needed some internals in motor.
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2012 event scheduled for October 21st. Hopefully we had all the rain last year ::) and this year will be dry. Already on my calendar :)
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Looking forward to it already. Do you know which track at this stage Greg?
KJ
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The event is promoted by members of the Hunter MCC in conjuction with Barleigh Ranch so it will be at the same location. I'm only a hanger-on in the scheme of things so full details will be some time off. The date has been decided.