OzVMX Forum
Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: Curly3 on August 06, 2011, 09:46:02 pm
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Has this forum become like a ghost town?
I miss some of our past characters and I'm pissed off that some were forced out.
If anyone knows a past contributor, please let them know that it's safe to come back.
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Who was forced out? Everyone I know who's left has bailed out on his own account. The guys missing that I've spoken to had had enough of the shitfights and cyber bullies and felt that the forum has lost its focus. I only cam back because I came to realise the forum can still be a valuable communication asset for our sport and since I've come back to the team have tried to get people to post stuff about old dirt bikes and leave the politics to Global Warming Sceptics.com. I'd love to see guys like Doc, Shoey, Tony T, Wombat and the other missing notables come back. What I don't want to see back here are the cyber bullies and smart arses with personal hate agendas. Nobody should have to put up with the kind of nastiness that some of us have had thrown at us in the past.
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Forums are like puddles in a car park but i try and stay in the deep end
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Okay, I used the wrong word.
Don't shoot the messenger, I'm only trying to open up the debate to try to get some of the good guy's back.
I'd like to think I've read your reply wrongly Mark?
This may be the prime example of how someones comments could be taken the wrong way.
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Okay, I used the wrong word.
Don't shoot the messenger, I'm only trying to open up the debate to try to get some of the good guy's back.
I'd like to think I've read your reply wrongly Mark?
This may be the prime example of how someones comments could be taken the wrong way.
Evil Rudy and Nimmos banning disenchanted a few of their Mates .
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Evil Rudy and Nimmos banning disenchanted a few of their Mates .
Let's get one phurphy out of the way right now.ROSS NIMMO IS NOT BANNED FROM THIS FORUM. His disappearance from the forum is totally of his own doing. He removed his own posts, nobody else did. The only banning was for the short lived phony account called FAAARRRKKK Nimmo set up purely to make fun of me. If Mr Nimmo's mates think that's funny well you all need to have a good hard look at yourselves.
I'm not sure of Evil Rudy's status but I doubt he's banned. I know and like Rudy and know most of his mates in this sport and you can bet your sweet bippy that his non appearance on the forum has zero to do with the downturn in forum activity, the reverse is probably closer to the truth.
I suspect that this pair of troublemakers have done more towards people moving away from the forum than any other reason.
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ross nimmo is banned from this foum his ip is banned
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after the photo incedent/get your facts right he allready removed all his posts then changed his name ,then he posted (again) a un edited photo off you at broadford
from rossEvery time I try to go on the forum this comes up.....
An Error Has Occurred!
Sorry Loin chops, you are banned from using this forum!
Fake account used to denigrate another user
It's locking my computer out. Did you draw attention to Loin chops?
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I think sometimes less is more, the forum is still good, i have even learnt a lot over the last week. Wher else woulld i have seen the beautiful Replica RC125 of E74...
Brett
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I think sometimes less is more, the forum is still good, i have even learnt a lot over the last week. Wher else woulld i have seen the beautiful Replica RC125 of E74...
Brett
(http://i323.photobucket.com/albums/nn458/mx250syd/icons/dito.gif) ;) :)
It's the World's greatest democracy - it will work itself out ;) :).
Don't take it personal and ignore those threads, posts or posters you don't like - too easy.
In democracy no one has more power than the power you give them.
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Hey Firko hows the IT coming along , did you fire her up yet?
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I asked Nimmo about not seeing him on the forum a few weeks ago at the last Viper event. He said that he must be banned as he can't get on the forum , even for alook.
Evil Rudy was banned after he flew off the handle at another forum member.He came back for a short while under the name Nice Rudy to defend himself and then disappeared.
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If Nimmo's banned it's because he created a fake profile just to be especially rude to someone. I banned that profile and the IP address. If he did it from his home computer, and I am not saying he did, then that's why he's banned. ER was banned for physically threatening people, including me. I actually like having characters like that around, but sadly you let em go and they end up crapping in their own nest.
Ghost town? Nah, I disagree. Sure the characters change, but the forum is still a great melting pot of people and information. I've said it before though, times change. The VMX scene is a little different now, with different characters and I think a different flavour. It's also not 'new' in the way it once was. Even I find myself at events like CD8 going "hohum, more old dirtbikes". But people move on. Not everyone stays in a scene forever.
One thing that I really thought would take off on the Ning site was blogs. Somewhere people could write longer stories about themselves, their history, events etc. Maybe a race report or whatever. But it just didn't fly, instead it gets used as a sort of pretend forum where people post questions or requests for info. In some ways I think I should just make the Ning site an international site and fire up its own forum, and keep this forum as OzVMX. Then we wouldn't have this sort of separation we have at the moment. Trouble is, I can't rename either of them!
Regardless, I still think this forum is a good one with lots of interesting discussion, information, and images. Maybe we should just do less complaining and do more enjoying?
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after the photo incedent/get your facts right he allready removed all his posts then changed his name ,then he posted (again) a un edited photo off you at broadford
Paul, my facts are fully spot on. The only reason that Nimmo posted that fat boy photo of me is to take the piss at my being overweight. Yep, I'm a fat guy, so what? However, I don't need people like Nimmo setting up complete accounts purely to take a cheap shot at me. Why would he have yet another unflattering shot of me as his avatar or list his phony email address as as [email protected]? That was the act that tipped the balance over the edge. Then, for some bizarre reason he removed every post he's done over the last five plus years ???. When I left the forum my old posts were still up there as I've got nothing to be ashamed of and much to be proud of so I didn't mind it remaining online. Nimmo's total removal of everything asks more questions on his bizarre behaviour than anythine else.
This has been going on for five fuc*ing years, both on and off the forum and quite frankly I've had more than enough. I've never met Nimmo and for the life of me have no idea why he seems to have taken me on as his hate poster boy. It's as if he was on a divine mission to get under my skin and guess what, after five years it finally worked. I've had enough of the sick little prick and I'm not going to put up with it any more. I wonder how any of his "mates" would handle the five plus years of smart arse inuendo I've copped from him and his stupid lap dog? It eventually wears you down. My current health issues have left me with a very diminished mojo so I'm not going to take Nimmo's bullshit any more.
If you think it's just me being a bit precious you should have seen the ill informed, evil shit the little prick spewed about VMX magazine, Clasic Dirt and those who promote it that was quickly removed from the forum after some legal threats. Add his bizarre rants at Jeff over his opinions on Montesa history and regular cheap shots at anyone he perceives to be "good 'ol boys" and you have a sad little man with one big chip on his shoulder.
To quote stressed out newsreader Howard Beale (Peter Finch) in the classic movie, Network.....
"I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more". ;)
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FWIW, Rudy was unbanned from Retrodirtbike, but hasn't made a reappearance there either.
Personally, my level of enthusiasm for the whole old bike scene is pretty low ATM, despite the forum.
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I mean it is easy to strut about in cyber space and be bully.... I get more than a little bothered about my mates like Firko having shit put on them. In fact pretty emotional .... these guys who stir people up have to remember that one day you may have to deal with people for real ..... big emotional New Zealand people.
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Has this forum become like a ghost town?
If you think this forum is a ghost town go and join some of the others [ names not mentioned ].
Some of them are lucky to get 5 posts a WEEK. :o
Just checked one I'me on and they have had ONE post today. :o
I rekon this one is doing pretty good :)
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The guys a Feckin Clown, end of story
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Has this forum become like a ghost town?
If you think this forum is a ghost town go and join some of the others [ names not mentioned ].
Some of them are lucky to get 5 posts a WEEK. :o
Just checked one I'me on and they have had ONE post today. :o
I rekon this one is doing pretty good :)
Mike i don't know what other forums you look on but if you go onto VitalMX or MXtrax they have a lot more posts than this one and all about dirt bikes and no political crap..
This forum has slid downhill a long way from where it was for actual vintage motocross content and a lot of the Qld vmx guys i know don't bother with it anymore for that reason.
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Has this forum become like a ghost town?
I miss some of our past characters and I'm pissed off that some were forced out.
If anyone knows a past contributor, please let them know that it's safe to come back.
I agree with the point you're making SlideRulz.. A lot of the people that were rich in vmx knowledge and many of the guys right into their vintage racing don't bother coming on here anymore.
The forum is still busy but the content has changed..
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This forum has slid downhill a long way from where it was for actual vintage motocross content and a lot of the Qld vmx guys i know don't bother with it anymore for that reason.
Absolutely right so why don't you and the missing Queenslanders do something about the problem and start contributing? It's all very well to whinge about the downfall but if you're not contributing good, interesting stuff you're a part of the problem. I'm not totally singling you out John, I know you're dealing with your own issues and that you've contributing positively to our sport for yonks but surely you could help out? Why not show us some of your lovely bike collection or some technical know how? What about rallying those Queenslanders to contribute?
It's no good sitting back waiting for someone else to do it. I was genuinely disillusioned when I left but soon realised that OZVMX was the best means of communication our sports got and that it was never going to return to it's former glory unless some of us did our bit. Those other forums are modern MX oriented so you'd expect them to have a strong following. At its peak this was the best vintage forum on the 'net and it can be again if we all do our bit. Sitting on our collective milk crates waiting for 'Mr Somebody Else' to fix the problem just 'ain't gonna cut it.
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That's exactly the point I was trying to make.
I'd like to see the return of the positive contributors who drifted away, for whatever reason.
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I understand what you're saying Firko and on several occasions when i've posted photos or commented on cool vintage mx topics the thread has been buried so quickly by some non vmx rubbish that after a while you go WTF and move to another website that's full of the stuff you like and that's exactly what's happened here. Hopefully that will change in time.
When i've fully recovered i'll make an effort to post up some stuff on my bikes and some cool bike builds i've got lined up :)
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has anyone come up with a wiring diagram for my DT 400, nup
so how vintage is this site now, it's not
I do need a diagram, but after posts in 4 areas of the forum and only 2 maybes( one with gun attached) I beg the ?
Its not a ghost town, but its the dribble, so I will have to agree with John.
Cheers Worms
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Worms I have a manual for a DT250a would the wiring diagram from that work? I'm hoping not, because then I'll have to find it. It should be with my other manuals unless Murphy has borrowed it.
Now you blokes have wasted two pages winging about Nimmo, and the forum going downhil, when you could of been talking bikes. Don't lower the forum further by winging about it, that would be worse than a carbon tax thread. ;D
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Sorry Worms, had a look this arvo and all I've got are diagrams for DT125s and 175s...
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So is the wiring for the 125, 175 250, 400 all different? I would assume that for ease of production they would of kept it all simialar.
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thanks for the replies, looks like there was different wire codes from 76 on, so I really need the 77 or 78 one, and I think all models, 125,250,400 all ran the same, I have used all the search engines I can think of, but absolutely nothing for this model, well there's one but you cant read the thing ???
Cheers Worms
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If they are all the same maybe I CAN help, cos my manual covers up to 1980 I think. I'll have a look later...
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Yeah the feeling for a newbie or someone outside the "circle" is not a great feeling, i have been around for a while, hav'nt posted much as i dont have a deep knowledge of older bikes and any technical questions are answered pretty quick by others, although it does'nt mean i dont have the same passion for these bikes.When i asked for a little help ,as in where i could find a YZ80 rear wheel i never even got one reply, not even one lead, i have found one after alot of searching, phonecalls etc but the lack of intrest was a tad dissapointing, anyway i still look on here because there is a wealth of knowledge and i am learning alot, from an "outsiders" point of view some of the arguments were just laughable,people too scared to post picks of their rebuilds because they are too scared it will get the shit picked out of it, anyway, i enjoy the site and hope it moves in a positive direction in the future, as in things to do with old dirt bikes.
cheers Dale.
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Dale, you'll only feel your outside the circle if you think there is a circle. There are groups of mates on here, but there are also a lot of people who don't know anyone or like myself who are only acquainted with one or two people.
Don't ever feel backward about coming forward just because you think there might be a clicky circle, just barge in and bust it open.
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i too have noticed that the forum has gone down hill in the last 12 months or so all because we
have had a lot of bickering an arguments over this bike is better or im a faster rider than u....
i use to post up a lot comments and info years ago but stopped straight away after i was blasted by a so called maico lover who knows
everything but doesnt how to do a spell check after a post ::)
i still log on everyday and check out everybodys posts, some days id like to post and respond to other comments
but like dale i am shit scared ???
also miss the regulars like doc, wombat n co but really glad firko has come back to the fold..
im sorta feelin the same way as firko ive had enuff of that shit fight fire with fire ...
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Thanks ,i know of a few others that are in the same boat as me but this forum is too interesting to let go,onwards and upwards hey.
cheers Dale.
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Andrew - is that a 480 or 500 in your avatar?
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The forum is a reflection of real life :) if you move to a new school , job or town you will always be the new boy at first ;) people deal with this in different ways . Some find their way through humour others through charm whiles others seek out the hard case and take them down and gain respect in that way ;)
Anyway i have always found this forum to be a great meeting place of like minded people and if the subject matter diversifies from our common interest VMX then again its just like real life.
Mates i have met through VMX i dont feel thats all we have in common sure you meet through a shared interest but as mates you grow and share and discuss all manner of subjects .
There are subjects on here that i feel are of no interest to me (Carbon tax for example ) so i choose to ignore those subjects and concentrate on the ones that do interest me.
I can understand it can be frustrating for some when a thread goes off topic , but for me that again is a mirror of real life.
What i dont like and cant understand is the stupid and gutless bullying that goes on, like what Firko has experienced. Again real life is full of bullying Wankers who try to make up for their own inadequacies by putting shit on other as they see weaker individuals . Its very easy to be a tough guy on a forum but a bit harder to step up in real life and there has been a bit of that on here over the years .
I think of the forum as a local pub :) difference is in the pub if someones giving your mate a hard time we tend to step up and deal with it but on here (with few exeptions ) its easy to look away ::)
As far as it being a boys club bullshit ::) Im sorry if you dont get a response to a request for a mini bike part or an obscure trail bike part ::) but be realistic you are in a minority of collectors . It does'nt mean your passion is any less than those with more main stream bikes but should every forum member reply with "sorry no but good luck with that ::) " . I think you will find that many mainstream parts requested dont get a reply either , it dont mean your an outsider just obviously nobody has anything ;)
Another valid point was a number of people get on here saying how the forum is dying and its all doom and gloom but do sweet FA to add valuable comment or post items of VMX interest.
There is a certain member who every time a thread goes the way he doesn't like is quick to state "dumbgeon here we come " ::) as if trying to goad Graeme to get rid of it as its not to his personnel taste.
If you are unhappy with the forum why not ask for a subscription refund or just not renew your subscription ;) OH THATS RIGHT ITS FREE , GRATIAS , FA, NO CHARGE , FREE ENTERTAINMENT :) and maybe thats half the problem . Years ago while involved in moden MX we used to have free entry for spectators , we always got a small number of spectators and always a wanker element ::) One commitee meeting it was suggested we charge admission to club days , within 6 months we were getting big crowds and no wanker element because those who came wanted to be there and more people came because they believed if we were charging it must be good. We were able to pay prize money from the gate takings so encouraged better riders from out of the district so better racing and everyone was happy :)
Over the years this forum has been a mine of valuable information and we have shared the joy of mates new family additions and the tradegdy of mates lost or maimed . Fundraisers have been held and incredible generosity has been shown :)
People will come and go its human nature :) so don't dwell on whats been and enjoy peoples input while they are here ;) Above all never forget we are all guest on Graemes forum and it is still the best forum on the net. Others may be currently more patronized but in my experience are moderated by control freaks ::)
Thanks Graeme for the great forum :)
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You're welcome Bill. And you never know, some old regulars just might come back.
;)
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Andrew - is that a 480 or 500 in your avatar?
its an 84 500
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Yeah the feeling for a newbie or someone outside the "circle" is not a great feeling,
There's no real circle here Dale, sure there are some blokes who know each other from the races but in the main we've all started as strangers and have gradually worked into friendships. Don't ever feel embarrassed or too shy to join in, the bullies are gone so you won't be criticised or made feel uncomfortable (unless of course you act like a total prat which I somehow don't think you will 8) ). As far as your request for a YZ 80 wheel going unanswered, As TM Bill said, it's not a common ask but you can bet that if someone did have a spare they would have told you. If I got dejected every time nobody replied to my request for parts I'd be permantly on Prozac so don't take it personally mate. Remember that if you've got something that you think can contribute to a thread, need to know something or need a part, jump right on in and post away....before long you won't feel like a stranger any more. :D
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I think during the carbon tax discussion I threw 3 or 4 VMX related posts up.... got a few comments, got the usual mixed reaction to the RM125 PDI swingarm .... took a couple on board and cheerfully changed to Preston Petty front guard today.
The Forum is not a Ghost Town but more like a Pub like TMBill says, where when there are plenty of bike projects on everyone has those to chew over and when there is not we just shoot shit about other things.
I would say the recession has people spending a little less means we are not all buying new bikes every week and maybe there are a few less people involved but as a forum member don't be shy about throwing up photos and making some wild claims......getting the ball rolling on a few more threads.
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TMBill pretty well covered it.
If we all thought the same it'd be a boring existance.
I'll admit to mentioning the looming Dumbgeon at one point but only in an attempt to cool a topic down a bit that was becoming personal, as someone else has stated Graeme M gives us a fair bit of latitude and rarely steps in.
I say to my kids, don't be shy to ask questions of anyone, ask a sensible question and you'll get a sensible answere.
I know I've asked some doozy's that when I look back on them I think, Doh.
Thanks also to Graeme
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Hi Dale . As Firko said mate just ask, most members will help if they can . Im a Yamaha collector (hoarder) I restored a yzb 80 a few years ago the hardest part I found was the bloody air box . I scroll through the wanted list if I have the part and I can bare to part with it Ill send an answer to the seeker. Otherwise I dont answer , whats the point saying I cant help . As far as members making comments about ones restorations , Im doing up a DT1 project in general on this site . Firko , Grahame , Vandy & Freakshow all made comments about my choices of tank /guards / sidecovers . their thoughts were right it is a better looking pre 70 bike with a period tank and guards . Stick with it ignore the fools and don't bite when some fool angers you just ignore him , without an audience they wither . regards Iain
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I just go in cycles (no pun intended) where i just get fed up with the dirt bikes and work on the cars and get fed up with them and work on the mountain bikes.
The winter months REALLY get to me and i hardly go out to the shed to work (unless i'm on arvo shift)on the bikes even though i love working on them.
I haven't touched the PE250T for a couple of months now which only needs a few more things to finish it off.
I haven't posted for a while only because i don't have anything to contribute/say and also not working on them.
Without the help of Graeme's site and Doc,TM Bill,Luke,Leith,Frosty,Marc etc etc.....i'd be stuffed.
I've asked a few mates that ride and even they aren't doing much at the moment.......maybe its just that time of year!
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I think during the carbon tax discussion I threw 3 or 4 VMX related posts up.... got a few comments, got the usual mixed reaction to the RM125 PDI swingarm .... took a couple on board and cheerfully changed to Preston Petty front guard today.
The Forum is not a Ghost Town but more like a Pub like TMBill says, where when there are plenty of bike projects on everyone has those to chew over and when there is not we just shoot shit about other things.
I would say the recession has people spending a little less means we are not all buying new bikes every week and maybe there are a few less people involved but as a forum member don't be shy about throwing up photos and making some wild claims......getting the ball rolling on a few more threads.
Yep , yep,yep. Numbers are notabley down at VMX events as well down here. Maybe its the recession that we are not having.Opps thats politics again isn't it? Sorry ::)
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Yep , yep,yep. Numbers are notabley down at VMX events as well down here. Maybe its the recession that we are not having.Opps thats politics again isn't it? Sorry ::)
Yeah from what I understand NZ numbers are pretty low as well ..... I think the discretionary income is not there and like the stories I hear out of NZ, a lot of people are having to decide between the mortgage and the kids eating these days.
In my case it is simply that I like a little variety so been building classic road race bike. Good time to have a little cash though .... mate of mine just picked up Ducati Desmodici.... thats the one based on the current race bikes.... normal retail 60K, the Yank 'needed the money' and took 30 for it. I have my eye on TX510 Husky at the moment.... its 50% less than what it would have sold for 2 years ago.
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I think things will pick up on the Forum now all all the Crap on G.W
and G.F.C have been nipped in the bud perhaps a couple of forum
Moderators to censor some of the things posted would be a good
move especially on personal attacks..
Poppy..
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This post started out wondering where everyone had gorn then it morphed into a discussion on many different things.
Bullies , posts going off track , posts about things other than vmx.
I was thinking about what my mates and I [ and strangers] discussed while sitting around the campfire [ in the rain ] at CD8.
We talked about the bikes we'd seen , the height some nut jobs were getting over drunks , how the sidecar riders were going to get the mud off , how nice the trumpy sounded , how quick the big KX was, where to get parts , we took the piss out of each others riding and bikes , we talked about the past , mates who had died , mates who had done well , mates who had grown up [ sad ] , we talked about the future , taxes , shelas , our kids.
Yep pretty much what is talked about here :)
We enjoyed the company of like minded people and listened to their views on things that really didn't interest us because they were mates.
And the problem is?
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is it as simple as " you will agree with me and I wont let up till you do"
the differance between being a smart-arse and having a joke is when it becomes personal, like the judgement of others re it be, freindship or what bike they ride or even the jealousy of others collections.
the judgement of freindship did it for me!
thanks to all the responses for the dt400, no luck though and sorry for all the thread hijacks.
Cheers Trev, Worms
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I think things will pick up on the Forum now all all the Crap on G.W and G.F.C have been nipped in the bud perhaps a couple of forum
Moderators to censor some of the things posted would be a good
move especially on personal attacks..
Poppy..
Get ready for GFC part 2.... nothing much stays nipped in the bud for long around here.
Regarding personnel attacks the forum is a bit self regulating where the idiots eventually get squeezed out without anything as draconian as excessive moderation.
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Irony, ah, I love Irony - 25% of the traffic on this forum is from people who don't start thread, who don't contribute, complaining about the content of the forum ::). Ah, go figure. ;D
Irony, ah, I love Irony ;D.
As my dear old uneducated but very very wise Mum use to say, "people who complain say more about themselves than the people they complain of" ;).
Irony, ah, I love Irony ;D
Welcome to the forum, welcome to democracy, welcome to the Real World :-*
Have a great day guys 8).
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Like most people here, I have seen the forum go downhill big time in the last couple years. At one stage it was just totally out of control and people were being really nasty to each other. I did not like all the arguments and personal attacks and threats being dished out. I have become very close to leaving on numerous occasions because I got tired of the totally un-relevant information being posted and all the insults, personal attacks, threats etc. I always thought ‘General discussion’ was for bike related stuff for example asking if someone can transport some parts for you or maybe letting others know about a bike show on TV or anything bike related that does not fit into one of the other categories and not pages and pages of political stuff. No other bike forums have that so why does this one? I also got sick of receiving annoying, threatening and insulting PM’s and emails which pushed me into almost leaving but there is always a part of me that just cant bare to let go. In the end I decided to stay for the time being but have reduced my postings and vist other foums a bit more instead. I think appointing moderators and a zero tolerance to bad behaviour is a step in the right direction now which will be welcomed by many. I think for a while some people thought they could get away with anything on here and took advantage of Graemes laid back approach. I can understand how some people can feel intimidated on here too. It remains to be seen if OZvmx can return to its glory days of a few years ago.
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Irony, ah, I love Irony - 25% of the traffic on this forum is from people who don't start thread, who don't contribute, complaining about the content of the forum . Ah, go figure.
Irony, ah, I love Irony .
As my dear old uneducated but very very wise Mum use to say, "people who complain say more about themselves than the people they complain of" .
Irony, ah, I love Irony
Welcome to the forum, welcome to democracy, welcome to the Real World
Have a great day guys .
Meaning? Are you saying that the people complaining have no grounds for complaint? Are you saying that it's OK to be continuously bullied and slagged for no reason?
Oh...I forgot, you thought Nimmo's attacks were funny.
GO FIGURE!
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Like most people here, I have seen the forum go downhill big time in the last couple years. At one stage it was just totally out of control and people were being really nasty to each other. dont read those post if they upset you I did not like all the arguments and personal attacks and threats being dished out. I have become very close to leaving on numerous occasions because I got tired of the totally un-relevant information being posted and all the insults, personal attacks, threats etc. I always thought ‘General discussion’ was for bike related stuff for example asking if someone can transport some parts for you or maybe letting others know about a bike show on TV or anything bike related that does not fit into one of the other categories and not pages and pages of political stuff.generally this things are posted in GB in their own seperate threads , not for you then ignore those threads ;) No other bike forums have that so why does this one? because its the best on the net I also got sick of receiving annoying, threatening and insulting PM’s and emails Best option there is to copy and paste and out those who threaten you to the general populus , bullies are generally cowards at heart and dont like being outed. Iv'e been a member of this site since the off and i cant say iv'e ever been threatened on line , if i was i will out them for the world to see and deal with any issues they have with me when we meet in person which pushed me into almost leaving but there is always a part of me that just cant bare to let go.Because you know its the best on the web ;) In the end I decided to stay for the time being but have reduced my postings and vist other foums a bit more instead. Broadens the mind Lieth I think appointing moderators and a zero tolerance to bad behaviour is a step in the right direction now which will be welcomed by many. I think for a while some people thought they could get away with anything on here and took advantage of Graemes laid back approach. I can understand how some people can feel intimidated on here too. It remains to be seen if OZvmx can return to its glory days of a few years ago.
Bullying aside all the other whinges people have i think are just that , its a public forum FFS ::) When you go to a pub or restaraunt do you expect the place to be filled with people exactly like you who think the same with the same morals and vices , who eat what your eating and drink what your drinking :o this is not a dig at you lieth its aimed at all who come on here moaning that the forum is not just as they like it .
Personally i would love it if all we talked about was racing restoring partying and plenty of graphic images of women you can only dream of parking your shoes under their beds ;D
But obviously that would be unacceptable to some people , so i just enjoy whats on here and contribute what i can , suggest the whiners do the same before Graeme says fork it why do i bother ;)
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This post started out wondering where everyone had gorn then it morphed into a discussion on many different things.
Bullies , posts going off track , posts about things other than vmx.
I was thinking about what my mates and I [ and strangers] discussed while sitting around the campfire [ in the rain ] at CD8.
We talked about the bikes we'd seen , the height some nut jobs were getting over drunks , how the sidecar riders were going to get the mud off , how nice the trumpy sounded , how quick the big KX was, where to get parts , we took the piss out of each others riding and bikes , we talked about the past , mates who had died , mates who had done well , mates who had grown up [ sad ] , we talked about the future , taxes , shelas , our kids.
Yep pretty much what is talked about here :)
We enjoyed the company of like minded people and listened to their views on things that really didn't interest us because they were mates.
And the problem is?
No problem at all!!!!
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Personally i would love it if all we talked about was racing restoring partying and plenty of graphic images of women you can only dream of parking your shoes under their beds ;D
picking up what you are putting down Bill
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/marcFX_photo/ga_cl_03.jpg)
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Wow,thats absolutely stunning.
The chick in the background ain't too shabby either. ;)
Cheers,Mark.
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Mark nice pit babe next time put a bike in the photo!!
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Personally i would love it if all we talked about was racing restoring partying and plenty of graphic images of women you can only dream of parking your shoes under their beds ;D
picking up what you are putting down Bill
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/marcFX_photo/ga_cl_03.jpg)
MATE ;D ;D ;D ;D thats what im talking about ;)
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How'd you get that picture of my little love bunny Shari Lee Marc? I left alone to look after the bike for one minute while I went off to collect my winners trophy and next I know she's all over the forum. Hmmmph! >:(
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No wonder your knees are knackered Firko :P
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Irony, ah, I love Irony - 25% of the traffic on this forum is from people who don't start thread, who don't contribute, complaining about the content of the forum . Ah, go figure.
Irony, ah, I love Irony .
As my dear old uneducated but very very wise Mum use to say, "people who complain say more about themselves than the people they complain of" .
Irony, ah, I love Irony
Welcome to the forum, welcome to democracy, welcome to the Real World
Have a great day guys .
Meaning? Are you saying that the people complaining have no grounds for complaint? Are you saying that it's OK to be continuously bullied and slagged for no reason?
Oh...I forgot, you thought Nimmo's attacks were funny.
GO FIGURE!
No Firko, that is not the meaning. The title of the thread is "Ghost Town?", and I quite clearly talk of "the traffic on this forum" and "complaining about the content of the forum". So there's no way what I said could be construed as condoning bulling, inappropriate behaviour, bad taste or even bad manners.
I have never said I think Nimmo's attacks on anyone were funny. What I have said was "Come on 43, you obviously know the guy, and know him well. Yes he is probably all of the things you say. But he is also one of the funniest guys on here, along with Rudy. He has a quick wit, a sharp tongue, a Shakespearean 'turn of phrase' and a great sense of humour." That is very different from condoning any personal attack be it couched in humour or not.
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Meaning? Are you saying that the people complaining have no grounds for complaint? Are you saying that it's OK to be continuously bullied and slagged for no reason?
Oh...I forgot, you thought Nimmo's attacks were funny.
GO FIGURE!
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I have never said I think Nimmo's attacks on anyone were funny. What I have said was "Come on 43, you obviously know the guy, and know him well. Yes he is probably all of the things you say. But he is also one of the funniest guys on here, along with Rudy. He has a quick wit, a sharp tongue, a Shakespearean 'turn of phrase' and a great sense of humour." That is very different from condoning any personal attack be it couched in humour or not.
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Where are all these mythical personal attacks? Some Guy calls Montesa's uncompetitive piles of junk and thats why they dont make them anymore .Nimmo defends his beloved Monties ,the other guy admits that his pissed and then suggests banning Nimmo and getting his brother to smash his face in at the next Viper round? WTF? Next met nothing happens except a few of the guys have a chuckle over it all. Then Nimmo gets some PM's threating the same at the next Round . What a joke!
As far as I remember he and Firko started not seing eye to eye when Firko came out with the brilliant statement that "victorians don't like to travel" also causing some laughter at the next met.Nimmo jumps in and the next thing everybody is going him for shit canning Conondale which he never did.He only pointed out that the scene down here is strong (was) and we have good tracks and dont need to travel.Whatever Vics are or have been well represented at interstate events as much as any other state.
What a joke .On the other hand when I first started checking the forum someone was slagging off at some guy from WA just before the Nats , who it was suggested should be exposed at the riders brief among other things.What an FN joke.
Since then more often than not if you post up something slightly contary to certain peoples views you get labeled as a smart arse, professor etc etc or worse accused of bullying.What a joke.
MX250 your Mum was SPOT ON!
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He has a quick wit, a sharp tongue, a Shakespearean 'turn of phrase' and a great sense of humour."[/b][/i] That is very different from condoning any personal attack be it couched in humour or not.
I always thought he was an over emotional and more than easy to blow out of the water. But i am kind of missing him, like a cat misses his scratching pole. ;D
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Where are all these mythical personal attacks? Some Guy calls Montesa's uncompetitive piles of junk and thats why they dont make them anymore .Nimmo defends his beloved Monties ,the other guy admits that his pissed and then suggests banning Nimmo and getting his brother to smash his face in at the next Viper round? WTF? Next met nothing happens except a few of the guys have a chuckle over it all. Then Nimmo gets some PM's threating the same at the next Round . What a joke!
As far as I remember he and Firko started not seing eye to eye when Firko came out with the brilliant statement that "victorians don't like to travel" also causing some laughter at the next met.Nimmo jumps in and the next thing everybody is going him for shit canning Conondale which he never did.He only pointed out that the scene down here is strong (was) and we have good tracks and dont need to travel.Whatever Vics are or have been well represented at interstate events as much as any other state.
What a joke .On the other hand when I first started checking the forum someone was slagging off at some guy from WA just before the Nats , who it was suggested should be exposed at the riders brief among other things.What an FN joke.
Since then more often than not if you post up something slightly contary to certain peoples views you get labeled as a smart arse, professor etc etc or worse accused of bullying.What a joke.
MX250 your Mum was SPOT ON!
+1 ;)
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5 pages of ghosts, scary :o
scary worms
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Meaning? Are you saying that the people complaining have no grounds for complaint? Are you saying that it's OK to be continuously bullied and slagged for no reason?
Oh...I forgot, you thought Nimmo's attacks were funny.
GO FIGURE!
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I have never said I think Nimmo's attacks on anyone were funny. What I have said was "Come on 43, you obviously know the guy, and know him well. Yes he is probably all of the things you say. But he is also one of the funniest guys on here, along with Rudy. He has a quick wit, a sharp tongue, a Shakespearean 'turn of phrase' and a great sense of humour." That is very different from condoning any personal attack be it couched in humour or not.
Where are all these mythical personal attacks? Some Guy calls Montesa's uncompetitive piles of junk and thats why they dont make them anymore .Nimmo defends his beloved Monties ,the other guy admits that his pissed and then suggests banning Nimmo and getting his brother to smash his face in at the next Viper round? WTF? Next met nothing happens except a few of the guys have a chuckle over it all. Then Nimmo gets some PM's threating the same at the next Round . What a joke!
As far as I remember he and Firko started not seing eye to eye when Firko came out with the brilliant statement that "victorians don't like to travel" also causing some laughter at the next met.Nimmo jumps in and the next thing everybody is going him for shit canning Conondale which he never did.He only pointed out that the scene down here is strong (was) and we have good tracks and dont need to travel.Whatever Vics are or have been well represented at interstate events as much as any other state.
What a joke .On the other hand when I first started checking the forum someone was slagging off at some guy from WA just before the Nats , who it was suggested should be exposed at the riders brief among other things.What an FN joke.
Since then more often than not if you post up something slightly contary to certain peoples views you get labeled as a smart arse, professor etc etc or worse accused of bullying.What a joke.
MX250 your Mum was SPOT ON!
He could have used his powers for Good, but instead he chose the other path…
Some Guy calls Montesa's uncompetitive piles of junk and thats why they dont make them anymore .Nimmo defends his beloved Monties
Not this old chestnut again. Get over it!!!
I never said that Montys were piles of uncompetitive junk - but I can't prove it because he deleted the thread.
I think what actually got up his nose was that I questioned his laughable assertion that Honda only purchased Montessa because they [Honda] were scared of the Montessa Watercooled Prototype. ;D
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Before this sinks into another one of those shitfights that detract from the main focus here, I should try and put this to bed. I've been a bit precious and probably have overreacted to Graeme's post after I misread what he was trying to say (actually, I don't know what he was trying to say ???) so probably owe you an apology mate.
Motomaniac has perfect right to defend Mr Nimmo as a few have done for me. That's what mates are for.
There are a few points in Moto's post that I feel I should address. This is not a criticism of Motomaniac as I've never met him. It's just me putting my take on his 'accusations'.
Where are all these mythical personal attacks
I don't mind anyone having a shot at my opinions, my beliefs or even my bikes as long as they have a good counter argument. That's what good debate is. I draw the line however when the criticism becomes personal, using schoolboy inuendo and snickering to make fun of me personally. If Mr Nimmo hadn't removed all of his posts I too could spend a day going through them but it's now not possible. His sniggering smart arse remarks at the 'good ol boys' and other childish stuff was just that, childish and while I didn't like it. I mainly put up with it. However when he renamed his account 'Faaarrrk' and used a photo of me as his avatar and [email protected] as his phony email contact, Nimmo had stooped to a new level of snide nastiness, setting up an account purely to lay shit on me. Previous to that, during a debate over the Chinese Metisses he'd posted an unflattering photo of me for no other reason than to try and embarrass me. He must have known that the shit would hit the fan because he not long after removed every post he'd made on the forum. What's that about?
Some Guy calls Montesa's uncompetitive piles of junk and thats why they dont make them anymore .Nimmo defends his beloved Monties ,
WTF? This situation has nothing to do with me. It was between another member and Nimmo. I challenge anybody to find any posts where I have criticised Montesas (bar a mild swipe at King Scorpions being heavy ;D). I even went in on Nimmo's side in that discussion by correcting a few errors in the other guy's assumptions on the downfall of Montesa. Having said that, Nimmo performed like a pork chop over one bloke having an opinion that he didn't like. Moto, I own and love Maicos, and they cop shit from all quarters almost weekly but I couldn't give a rats arse what others think about them. Nimmo's performance over Jeffs opinion said more about Nimmo the bloke than anything about Montesas.
the other guy admits that his pissed and then suggests banning Nimmo and getting his brother to smash his face in at the next Viper round? WTF? Next met nothing happens except a few of the guys have a chuckle over it all. Then Nimmo gets some PM's threating the same at the next Round . What a joke!
I think you're getting two people confused here and I'm not one of them. Nor did Jeff from the previous Montesa discussion. He and I had nothing to do with the above situation and I strongly disagreed with the action by that guy at the time, and still do. I abhor violence or even threatened violence and that situation was handled by Graeme by rightly banning the guy from the forum. I remind you again...it had nothing to do with me or any of the 'good ol' boys'.
As far as I remember he and Firko started not seing eye to eye when Firko came out with the brilliant statement that "
Errrr, nope. The first time Mr Nimmo had a disagreement to my knowledge was way back in a thread that arose over David Hicks' release from Guantanamo Bay. A number of people including Nimmo criticised the Hicks release and as was my right I took another stand and reckoned that Hicks had been gaoled on trumped up charges and deserved to be released. Well..all hell broke loose and Nimmo went ballistic over this and when I replied (jokingly I might add) that he should calm down and possibly seek anger management therapy. That was it. Boom, crash Opera. He's hated me ever since.
victorians don't like to travel"
I barely remember that statement, perhaps some context would make it more relevent.
I think the statement was in regard to getting Victorians to travel to other states for big events or even Classic Dirt. In my years of running bigger events it was a fact that the majority of Victorians preferred to remain in their own state and pursue their own events. The statement wasn't referring to the amount of travelling you blokes do withing your own state following the series, it purely refers to travelling interstate.
Nimmo jumps in and the next thing everybody is going him for shit canning Conondale which he never did.
We'll beg to differ on that one. There are others on this forum who would argue the toss with you over that. Once again, you've got his side of the yarn but the reality was different. Others became involved and legal action became a possibility unless something was done. There was a lot of off forum action over this one so you'd be forgiven for not knowing the full context of the situation.
On the other hand when I first started checking the forum someone was slagging off at some guy from WA just before the Nats
Unless I'm mistaken ,you weren't at the Nats, don't know the situation so why comment? The bike is blatantly n incorrect by MA vintage MX rules because of its modified frame and other points but it got through scrutineering, causing concern from myself and others. This bike has caused controversy before and I was merely stating an opinion, as is my right.
Since then more often than not if you post up something slightly contary to certain peoples views you get labeled as a smart arse, professor etc etc or worse accused of bullying.What a joke.
Are you talking politics or general VMX stuff here? You often post controversial politically oriented posts that can often evoke a differing opinion. We're all different in our thoughts and beliefs and we're not always right in some peoples eyes, that's the way of the world. I don't think I personally have ever called you a smart arse, professor etc etc or worse accused you of bullying. I rarely enter into that stuff these days as my politics seems to be vastly to the left of many of you guys so I couldn't be bothered arguing the toss any more. I've been called names myself (commo, for one) and in that instance, couldn't care less. That stuff's not that important to me any more. As far as VMX issues, if I have personally done any of the above acusations towards you (which I doubt I have) I'm sorry.
Now let's get over this bullshit and move forward. There's been too much angst from both me and others that's done little good for this forum so let's move on, agree to disagree on some things and work together on the stuff we have in common.
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It wasn't until my late 20's that a somewhat dim light came on in the grey matter and I realised then, that there are people in the world who I piss off and people in the world that piss me off. Equilibrium! So, the balance stands and I move along merrily through life with a passion for motorcycling, in all of it's facets. I don't care if you ride a "shitter" cobbled together from assorted junk piles or have a 20K "works bike", I'll still chat to you about bikes! Sometimes I think we just seem to forget what it's all about...........
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Wow! I hadn't seen this thread until now and what a read...
Ah, I think things ARE for the better on the forum. Even Doc is back apparently!
I think that going over the past with regard to the "dark period" is probably not a good idea however. Let us all "move foward" ::)
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I think that going over the past with regard to the "dark period" is probably not a good idea however. Let us all "move foward"
Hallelujah Brother. The good guys are slowly coming back so it's best we forget 'the war' and rejoice in the new peace!
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It wasn't until my late 20's that a somewhat dim light came on in the grey matter and I realised then, that there are people in the world who I piss off and people in the world that piss me off. Equilibrium! So, the balance stands and I move along merrily through life with a passion for motorcycling, in all of it's facets. I don't care if you ride a "shitter" cobbled together from assorted junk piles or have a 20K "works bike", I'll still chat to you about bikes! Sometimes I think we just seem to forget what it's all about...........
good motto TeeBone and i totally agree mate. what's done is done, right or wrong its over.
way too much emotion guys on past events, build a double and jump over it.
sometimes it pays to wait a day if you get pissed off before you respond and re think it out.
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Not this old chestnut again. Get over it!!!
I never said that Montys were piles of uncompetitive junk - but I can't prove it because he deleted the thread.
I think what actually got up his nose was that I questioned his laughable assertion that Honda only purchased Montessa because they [Honda] were scared of the Montessa Watercooled Prototype. ;D
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No not this "old chestnut" and nothing to get over. The reference was not too you and my qoute was accurate.I was referring to a more recent post. Did you also threaten to smash his teeth in?
Honda did buy Montesa because of the competiveness of their trials bike that was the best at the time.
What I like about VMX is all the different characters and their different passions for era's and makes of bikes.I don't dislike any of it and wouldn't laaugh at a fellow VMXers passion or his ideas unless its undermining someone elses. You loose on this one IMO.
As far as doing good , he does plenty of that .He's been attending the races with a Mate even though he cant ride at the moment and helping out at the events and enjoying the scene and the company despite getting threats of violence.
I first met him three years ago when I got back into racing VMX ,he was one of the first to compliment my bike , its not a Monty, and also complimented me at the end of the day on my riding after I beat him.He 's a top bloke and I made sure that I paid the compliment back when was giving just about all of us a lesson in riding the mud at Barrabool oneday.
If you dislike people with a passion who speak their mind and dont backdown or take shit from anyone then he is probably not your type.I'm fine with just how he is.
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Where are all these mythical personal attacks? Some Guy calls Montesa's uncompetitive piles of junk and thats why they dont make them anymore .Nimmo defends his beloved Monties ,the other guy admits that his pissed and then suggests banning Nimmo and getting his brother to smash his face in at the next Viper round? WTF? Next met nothing happens except a few of the guys have a chuckle over it all. Then Nimmo gets some PM's threating the same at the next Round . What a joke!
As far as I remember he and Firko started not seing eye to eye when Firko came out with the brilliant statement that "victorians don't like to travel" also causing some laughter at the next met.Nimmo jumps in and the next thing everybody is going him for shit canning Conondale which he never did.He only pointed out that the scene down here is strong (was) and we have good tracks and dont need to travel.Whatever Vics are or have been well represented at interstate events as much as any other state.
What a joke .On the other hand when I first started checking the forum someone was slagging off at some guy from WA just before the Nats , who it was suggested should be exposed at the riders brief among other things.What an FN joke.
Since then more often than not if you post up something slightly contary to certain peoples views you get labeled as a smart arse, professor etc etc or worse accused of bullying.What a joke.
MX250 your Mum was SPOT ON!
+1 ;)
Thanks Mate, look forward to meeting you oneday.
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It wasn't until my late 20's that a somewhat dim light came on in the grey matter and I realised then, that there are people in the world who I piss off and people in the world that piss me off. Equilibrium! So, the balance stands and I move along merrily through life with a passion for motorcycling, in all of it's facets. I don't care if you ride a "shitter" cobbled together from assorted junk piles or have a 20K "works bike", I'll still chat to you about bikes! Sometimes I think we just seem to forget what it's all about...........
good motto TeeBone and i totally agree mate. what's done is done, right or wrong its over.
way too much emotion guys on past events, build a double and jump over it.
sometimes it pays to wait a day if you get pissed off before you respond and re think it out.
Yes good post TeeBone
Hoony this is not in the past.Nimmo is getting painted as evil etc,etc in his absence as well as threats of violence.
My post was to point out the hypocrisy and double standards here as well as back up a friend.
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I mean it is easy to strut about in cyber space and be bully.... I get more than a little bothered about my mates like Firko having shit put on them. In fact pretty emotional .... these guys who stir people up have to remember that one day you may have to deal with people for real ..... big emotional New Zealand people.
Yep
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ross is a good guy .honest helpfull and passonate about his raceing and bikes and a sick sence off humour .tis a pity he carnt defend himself from continueing slaging ,but he probably doesnt give a fark anyway
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I'm very reluctant to wade into the Ross Nimmo psychoanalysis, but I do wonder how many people who have really clashed with him on the forum, have actually met the bloke?
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Hmmm... I think this thread is in danger of becoming exactly what everyone has been complaining about - a long, waffling shitfight that has nothing to do with VMX. I think it's all been said, so let's move on. I'm going to lock this off now, it's close to The Dumbgeon as it is.
Just to clarify regarding Ross Nimmo. Personally I have nothing against the guy, but he has crossed the line (MY line) on occasions and been asked to get his act sorted. That's happened several times over a year or more, so he's been given plenty of opportunity to do it better. Regardless of off forum stuff, the bottom line is he was NOT banned. A fake profile WAS banned. And the IP address of that profile's creator was banned. If that has resulted in Ross being banned, then that fake account came from his computer. If it didn't come from his computer, then he is not banned. His profile and all his posts disappearing occurred BEFORE I banned the fake profile. I have no idea how many accounts Ross had, nor do I care. As far as I am concerned, Ross was given plenty of opportunity to clean up his act and if he's been brought undone through his own actions, so be it. That is rather appropriate. I've advised, off forum, that Ross is welcome to contact me to discuss, but that I am unlikely to be especially sympathetic.
Now, let's just all move on. Any more posts or threads that reference the past state of the forum or Ross Nimmo in particular will be deleted.
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