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Marque Remarks => Suzuki => Topic started by: Marc.com on July 13, 2011, 04:40:23 pm

Title: TM400 in RM frame
Post by: Marc.com on July 13, 2011, 04:40:23 pm
Have spare TM400 engine and thinking about putting it in RM 250A frame, want to build RM400S, anyone done this conversion already

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Title: Re: TM400 in RM frame
Post by: JohnnyO on July 13, 2011, 05:09:04 pm
Never heard of anyone doing that.. i think it'd be easier to buy an RM370 ;D
Title: Re: TM400 in RM frame
Post by: cloggy on July 13, 2011, 05:42:14 pm
 Super Hunky has a theory that the reason for the TM's extreme malovence lies in a variable advance. He postulates that as the engine changes temperature, so does the advance curve, hence it's extreme unpredictability. If that were so a better frame wouldn't help much.
Title: Re: TM400 in RM frame
Post by: frostype400 on July 13, 2011, 06:01:22 pm
I reckon it would go well better suspension and frame might be able to handle the tm400 motor better tm400 in a modern bike frame would be fun.
Title: Re: TM400 in RM frame
Post by: oldfart on July 13, 2011, 06:05:52 pm
Marc, I dropped my TM 250 motor into a 250 B frame just to see what changes they had made.   Weight was the biggest factor along with width  mag to clutch cover.
I think  Tm 400 motor's are longer ??
Title: Re: TM400 in RM frame
Post by: Marc.com on July 13, 2011, 06:25:31 pm
Yeah I guess I was always a bit curious about the RM125S and why it exists in isolation and didn't have a 250/400 family. Already have RM370 and TM400 so thought I might build something in the middle.

Or else I will use the TM400 engine for some horror Frankenbike. Been buying them cheap and clean out of the USA at the moment so have surplus engine.
Title: Re: TM400 in RM frame
Post by: frostype400 on July 13, 2011, 06:33:05 pm
You don't have a 71 72 tm400 pipe I can buy I just have to do the bottom end in my tm400 the cylinder is already done new piston awaiting some action. ;)
Title: Re: TM400 in RM frame
Post by: Marc.com on July 13, 2011, 06:42:08 pm
You don't have a 71 72 tm400 pipe I can buy I just have to do the bottom end in my tm400 the cylinder is already done new piston awaiting some action. ;)

Sorry mate, be nice to have another myself, I just bought one off the pipe division of the GMC corporation.
Title: Re: TM400 in RM frame
Post by: frostype400 on July 13, 2011, 06:44:49 pm
Yeah I just wanted an original one becuase they look sweet no muffler has got to make a good sound as well. ;)

I currently have a rm250a motor in a pe250b which is going back into an rm250a frame and will build a good pe250b as well best thing about suzuki I find is you can mix and match motors and frames as long as they are the same year.
Title: Re: TM400 in RM frame
Post by: JohnnyO on July 13, 2011, 08:12:07 pm
Have spare TM400 engine and thinking about putting it in RM 250A frame, want to build RM400S, anyone done this conversion already

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I think you would be better off slipping an RM 370 motor into a RM 125S rolling frame,i have offered a motor up into one and it will fit fairly easily. As has already been said the TM 400 motor is a long unit and this limits its use in other frames .
I think the whole TM 400 death trap myth is just that, the original TM 400 apparantly had its dubious traits but the TM 400L and 400M were not a bad bike . Compared to the Euro stuff of the day they were a bit ordinary but in the right hands and with a bit of modern technology they are a reasonable vintage bike .

Keep us updated with your proposed project .
I can't figure out why you'd put a 370 motor into an RM125S chassis? You would end up with a bike not as good as a std RM370 and have to race it in the same pre '78 class..
Title: Re: TM400 in RM frame
Post by: JohnnyO on July 13, 2011, 08:17:10 pm
Yeah I guess I was always a bit curious about the RM125S and why it exists in isolation and didn't have a 250/400 family. Already have RM370 and TM400 so thought I might build something in the middle.

Or else I will use the TM400 engine for some horror Frankenbike. Been buying them cheap and clean out of the USA at the moment so have surplus engine.
Marc the RM125S is a '75 model and i guess you could say it's family are the RH250M & RN370M as they are very similar in design.
Title: Re: TM400 in RM frame
Post by: Marc.com on July 13, 2011, 09:44:19 pm
Matter of fact I slipped a TS185 into RM125S chassis years ago ( still have it) definitely 400 won't go into that space.