OzVMX Forum
Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: vmx42 on June 20, 2011, 04:44:59 pm
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Remember when OzVMX was just a young pup and we were all happy to be here? Lot's of good humour, great info, VMX camaraderie and a great place to meet, exchange ideas and slag off Bultaco riders… :D.
It's sad to say, but Brad and Daves little CZ stouch really is an indicator of the decline in this forum [sort it out in private guys - and then move on] and the way we treat each other.
Have we really become that old and jaded that we would prefer a site full of agro and bad blood to the old OzVMX vibe? Maybe Shoey, Firko and Doc et al, have the right idea afterall. Especially when I compare it to the way the guys on GarageJournal get on.
Take a look at this thread, 196 pages of shared info and enthusiasm, all without a single harsh word…
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51567
VMX42 :(
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Hear Hear - lets all be 1/2 glass full :P
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It's sad to say, but Brad and Daves little CZ stouch really is an indicator of the decline in this forum [sort it out in private guys - and then move on] and the way we treat each other.
It's a bummer that I am part of the decline of the forum. :( Its also a shame that a guy can continue to walk amongst us thinking he can get away with doing the wrong thing to any of us. If I told people in private as it has been done for all this time , then indeed he will keep doing it to others not in the know. I truly feel I was doing the 'community' a service but it seems in your opinion I haven't. I bet if you were on the receiving end of a bad deal you may have a different view.
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http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51567
:o :o :o Thomas/BB767 certainly has a story to tell-what a fantastic shed old and new :P :P ...only a few more pages than our Sprite/American Eagle thread ;) ;D
cheers A
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Guilty as charged , Jeff your right but i wonder if the forum is a reflection of life in general ??? since the economic down turn i have noticed a change in peoples attitudes and its a reality that people are doing it hard ATM.
Also i believe there is an element of VMX snobbery that wasn't there in the early days , (if its a converted traily or a budget racer there are those who cant wait to pour scourn upon it ) at the other end of the spectrum we now get a constant bombardment of repetitive threads and photos of blinged up big dollar builds and restos of the same bikes .
Personally i enjoy all builds regardless of cost , its peoples passion and inginuity that i enjoy. We have lost a lot of good forum members and gained new ones .
Probably somthings are best sorted in private and we would all do well to be more tollerant of each other. We are all guest on here and should try to conduct ourselves as if we were in someone elses home :)
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It's sad to say, but Brad and Daves little CZ stouch really is an indicator of the decline in this forum [sort it out in private guys - and then move on] and the way we treat each other.
It's a bummer that I am part of the decline of the forum. :( Its also a shame that a guy can continue to walk amongst us thinking he can get away with doing the wrong thing to any of us. If I told people in private as it has been done for all this time , then indeed he will keep doing it to others not in the know. I truly feel I was doing the 'community' a service but it seems in your opinion I haven't. I bet if you were on the receiving end of a bad deal you may have a different view.
Brad, I was just using your current thread as an example. I never said what I thought of it, nor did I question your motives or integrity or even suggest that you were part of the decline of the forum. If that is how you read it then I apologise.
My post was borne from the frustration of watching the slow deterioration of this forum. I was offering my opinion and nothing else.
VMX42
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All to true, it's why Iv'e stayed away, to many posts that don't need to be posted' the old saying if you havn't got anything constructive or nice to say don't say anything, But if you have got a beef with someone go behind the sheltershed and sort it out it should't be done on the forum Cheers Lou
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Guilty as charged , Jeff your right but i wonder if the forum is a reflection of life in general ??? since the economic down turn i have noticed a change in peoples attitudes and its a reality that people are doing it hard ATM.
Hey Bill,
I guess that my feelings are that when times are more difficult, sites like OzVMX should be more valuable than ever. Getting together with your mates is free and should add to our enjoyment of life, not add to our problems.
I look to this site for fun, wonderful information and as a great way to breakup my day. It used to be the first site I would check in the morning and the last before shutting down at night. Times have changed, or maybe it is just me?
VMX42
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I guess that my feelings are that when times are more difficult, sites like OzVMX should be more valuable than ever. Getting together with your mates is free and should add to our enjoyment of life, not add to our problems.
I don't know I think it shouldn't be taken too seriously, all public forums have a bit of back and forth between the various rival factions. I like this forum ..... there are about 2 degrees of seperation at the best of times so everyone generally has some mutual friend so nobody acts up that badly.
Not sure about VMX snobbery Bill, just back in the days we were broke and lusting for the trick bikes and now we can sort of afford it regardless of the fact that the global economy is heading down a mineshaft.
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Guilty as charged , Jeff your right but i wonder if the forum is a reflection of life in general ??? since the economic down turn i have noticed a change in peoples attitudes and its a reality that people are doing it hard ATM.
Hey Bill,
I guess that my feelings are that when times are more difficult, sites like OzVMX should be more valuable than ever. Getting together with your mates is free and should add to our enjoyment of life, not add to our problems.
I look to this site for fun, wonderful information and as a great way to breakup my day. It used to be the first site I would check in the morning and the last before shutting down at night. Times have changed, or maybe it is just me?
VMX42
I have to fully agree with what you have just said Jeff. There was a time when you couldnt get me off this forum, and even though it is still a great place to visit and Graeme M is the best mod/Admin around I have struggled to find anything creative and positive to post about. Even the hallowed CD8 thread has been very quietly pushed to one side and I remember the threads of old and all the great pages and writtings of some wonderful storytelling blokes and their bikes. It is our job to re-create that and get this great forum back on the right track or what we will have left is just a bitter bunch of old twisted men shitting on other old twisted and bitter old men. Bikes are what we enjoy after all isnt it? So why is everyone getting off on slagging and poking the finger at other fellow VMXers and their bikes. Is it just easier to sling shite than to be contructive and informative?
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just a bitter bunch of old twisted men shitting on other old twisted and bitter old men.
Hell I noticed nobody at CD8 looked like they were smiling....
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If I had been at CD8 Marc I know I would have been smiling because the worse day VMXing is still better than the best day at work. My jacket pockets, pants pockets would have been full of cans of beer and I would have been partying next to a bunch of great blokes I have met there every year. Smiles..... I would have had one and it would have started the moment I got there and would still be on my face now because I would be remembering the fun times I would have had.... but thats just me... LONG LIVE THE BAND and THE BIKES OF CLASSIC DIRT
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If I had been at CD8 Marc I know I would have been smiling because the worse day VMXing is still better than the best day at work.
Im hearing you brother I have been trying to get fired for months ::)
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just a bitter bunch of old twisted men shitting on other old twisted and bitter old men.
Hell I noticed nobody at CD8 looked like they were smiling....
Gee marcFX,
I don't know where you were standing at CD8 but everywhere I looked you couldn't get the smiles of their faces, even after the rain started. It was a great event and all I spoke to had a fantastic time.
I think you may be reading something into it that wasn't there. Shame about the rain but it's all part of it. I loved every minute we were there ;D
Stan.
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If I had been at CD8 Marc I know I would have been smiling because the worse day VMXing is still better than the best day at work. My jacket pockets, pants pockets would have been full of cans of beer and I would have been partying next to a bunch of great blokes I have met there every year. Smiles..... I would have had one and it would have started the moment I got there and would still be on my face now because I would be remembering the fun times I would have had.... but thats just me... LONG LIVE THE BAND and THE BIKES OF CLASSIC DIRT
The blokes that you meet there every year missed "fully loaded man" this year ;D ;D ;D We had to carry our own beer :o :o
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2007 and eleven pages and still we are here going over the same topic :P and the starting of negative threads that can cause the demise and dislike of others.....forums can be a very transit place -people come and people go 8)
http://ozvmx.com/community/index.php?topic=918.0
Lets nurture it for all the new member on here.....when was the last time you clicked on over to the intro page and perhaps see someone you may know from "back in the day" or just welcomed them from your own state/town.
CD8 is a fantastic show case event,but its not the only fantastic VMX event in Oz
cheers A
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Now boys feel the love. Most of us are good ol boys not keepers or clowns
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I'll admit I've never ridden MX, I rode Speedway until injury intervened and then Dirt Track for a few years.
I still wouldn't dream of going over a jump because of lack of strength from those injuries but I think I can still comment.
JEEEEEEZUS guy's, there are DH's in every walk of life, deal with the ones you want to and avoid the ones you don't.
I don't know Dave from a bar of soap and have had no dealings with him so, no comment.
Brad has always seemed to be positive and encourageing on here and is a positive for the Sport.
People should be made aware of any SHONK's amongst us and I don't mean Dave.
There have been a few high profile defections from the forum just recently and that's normal.
If you stay in one place long enough, you'll eventually meet someone that pisses you off.
Don't ask.
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If I had been at CD8 Marc I know I would have been smiling because the worse day VMXing is still better than the best day at work. My jacket pockets, pants pockets would have been full of cans of beer and I would have been partying next to a bunch of great blokes I have met there every year. Smiles..... I would have had one and it would have started the moment I got there and would still be on my face now because I would be remembering the fun times I would have had.... but thats just me... LONG LIVE THE BAND and THE BIKES OF CLASSIC DIRT
The blokes that you meet there every year missed "fully loaded man" this year ;D ;D ;D We had to carry our own beer :o :o
At least we didn't have to worry about him trying to find us st some ungodly hour cause he'd run out of drinking partners ;D
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I think there's two main issues:
1. Everyone seems to be more agro in life. Apparently borrowed money does buy happiness...
2. Forums don’t grow old gracefully. They all have their own reasons for losing their spark but it seems inevitable.
In the case of OZVMX, I think that the... stronger personalities have tended to drown out a lot of others, and a lot of the forum ends up polarised around the strong personalities' points of difference.
Hey, I know that I'm a stubborn, argumentative prick who has contributed more than his fair share of "robust debate" - but since realising this, I've tried to tone it down and focus on the positives.
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Mainline, you need to talk to a certain Tony B about the "looking for someone to drink with" ;D I may have said to Tony that a visit might be in order and he readily agreed, in fact I think he may have even told me that if I didnt go and visit I would be letting the yamaha team down, and I couldnt do that ;) ;D
Nathan S, debating the point is all good and the stronger the point to make the better it is. It shows passion and I have always thought that VMX is built on passion. If we, (all of us) agree to disagree at times after "Robust Debate" then isnt the sport all the better for it?
YZ250H I hope I havent dropped you in it :D
Now, tell me when you Yamaha boys are coming over to have a beer and a ride on a few bikes over here? Now back to the good old days of arguing about the best bikes and the worst roost to eat. ;D
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I've been a bit missing for a while ,just been busy and low on cash but once i sort a few things out i will get back on my bikes again and catch up for a beer and ride . Hope to have a beer with Fully Loaded man and all the crew at CD 9 . The forums important to all of us so stop bitching and go to a happy place . Hilly
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Yeah wev'e turned a corner Hillys back ;D
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Hey, I know that I'm a stubborn, argumentative prick who has contributed more than his fair share of "robust debate"
Could'nt say I've noticed :-*
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Two blokes constantly having a "my dick's bigger than yours contest".
From what I heard most of our dicks are bigger than yours ;D ;D Anyways I seem to remember snobby prima donnas as pretty much as much a part of MX in the 80s as they certainly are now.
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I've only been here a short time (no jokes please) and every time I've asked for tech help the response has been great, and has on every occassion helped me sort the problem, and when I needed help at those firrst VCM rides the genuine assistance was reassuring, from where I stand VMX'ers are good people.
And in the 37 years since I first rode in a scramble to my recent "rebirth" I was often in workplaces where the bullying led to broken men and trashed lives and in reflection I can see it mostly only hurt those who "got invloved", so it's interesting to see that when there is a bit of banter and flashing poison pens (keyboards) there are those who get sucked in because they are offended or they try to put the other person right (reminds me of that great joke, the fellow is on the net late at night and his wife sais, come to bed honey, and he sais, I can't come to bed just now because there is someone here on the internet who is wrong).
Here you are experiencing a communication freedom that has never been available before, this is a new experience for us humans, but generally were are not yet sorted on how to get the best and shun the worst; it seems to me that when were really old we will on reflection see that those who got offended on the net were those who got involved and that it really is not all that different to what I saw in the workplace.
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i'm with Tmbill,hillys back, 8),just coz your bikes are in the corner don't mean you have to dropout mate, a reassuring dig every now & again,just to let us all know your'e still heres the go Hilly ;),like the saying goes,you can't pick family,but you can certainly pick your friends,we are all part of one circle,spokes in the life wheel,some loose,some tight,attached at the rim,so suck it up,both positives,& negatives,it's why we're here (forumwise ;D),geezz too much caffeine,back to the shed, :P
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I was often in workplaces where the bullying led to broken men and trashed lives and in reflection I can see it mostly only hurt those who "got invloved",
I don't know man, at least in the Aussie work place you can see the shit coming, they are usually not the least bit subtle. Its the Aussie way to wind people up if they see a weak point.
In my workplace the guy smiling and shaking your hand and acting like your best friend is probably doing a 'job on you'... in my experience the corporate hyenas play much rougher.
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Since the snobs and the 'prima-donas' took over I reckon'.
I doubt if many people that raced motocross in the 70's and 80's could relate to most of the crap talked about on here now. Two blokes constantly having a "my dick's bigger than yours contest". Pages and pages of some obscure, probably illegal (unless you're one of the boys) bikes that have fark all meaning to the general populace, etc, etc and so on....
This is exactly why we are having problems here. Whenever the red typeface chimes in, it's never going to end well. ::)
I still lurk around this forum from time to time, but I agree with VMX42, this place has gone downhill bigtime and is a chore to keep track of. ???
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Changing font colours normal means attention whore or I have a tiny dick so pay me attention.
It can be used to high light certain important bits of text but when used all the time IMO it says my dick is tiny.
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Changing font colours normal means attention whore or I have a tiny dick so pay me attention.
It can be used to high light certain important bits of text but when used all the time IMO it says my dick is tiny.
Now THAT's funny. ;D
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Fair comment Marc, it's true that there are those who pick on a weak spot, and (in my opinion) that's probably what's gotta stop, but on the other hand it is evelotionary theory at work (no pun intended!) strengthening us all so I see it's "purpose", and your right about what the corporate lot can do, give em' power and they will work economic theory to their advantage.
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This is exactly why we are having problems here. Whenever the red typeface chimes in, it's never going to end well. ::)
Ah, another positive, helpful post...............
If you ignore the comment being written in red, I thought it was fairly reasonable.
Same old bikes, same old dirt, same old crap.
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This is exactly why we are having problems here. Whenever the red typeface chimes in, it's never going to end well. ::)
Ah, another positive, helpful post...............
If you ignore the comment being written in red, I thought it was fairly reasonable.
Same old bikes, same old dirt, same old crap.
Yep sometimes the truth hurts doesn't it? ;)
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Nathan - for once mate I agree with you ;D - I think personalities have become a big factor here - and why do those personalities have to jump in boots and all from the word go. I mean I have had people stand up for me when Suzuki43 has had a go at me - hang on - he is a my mate - I took no offence so don't read something into it - the written word is far from the best form of communciations - especially for many of us.
Lighten up - enjoy and sometimes back off.
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Slackwell you are right on the money. Remember the idiot allthings 414 in red,opps sorry hes now a clown with tiny dick
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I think this thread has become a pretty clear demonstration of what’s wrong with OzVMX... Somewhat ironic when it was apparently intended to get us all to re-focus on the good stuff...
To quote no lesser man than Henry Rollins: "To hate someone is to give them way too much of yourself. If someone hands you a big pile of shit, you don’t pick it up - you ignore it".
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It's funny, but when I first got into VMX it was all a sort of memory trip. I was like a kid in a shop all excited and looking at everything with fresh eyes. Hooee, lookit that old Maico. Haven't seen one of those in years! That sort of thing. The whole scene in the late 90s was very much a sort of down home, clubby thing. Races were a bit less than serious with guys in flannies on ratty old Xls as well as a few serious guys. The common thread though was that it was fun. Memory lane alright, but fun.
Now after being involved for what, 13 years or so, I am all nostalgic for the old days of vintage! That is no slur on anyone or anything, it's just me. I'm not especially excited anymore to see an old CR125, I don't go to many races and the ones I do go to often seem too serious. It's just me, but all I really want to do is goof around on an old dirt bike.
I remember my vintage club in the early days - they sent out a regular newsletter. A real one. With articles and funny stuff and so on. Their website was fun - it was up to date, showed the pointscore, had some humour and made me feel part of the scene.
Does any club still do that?
OzVMX is like that too. In the early days there weren't many of us and we were all a bit wide eyed. Now there's a LOT of people on here with all the various personalities etc. BUT... the wide eyedness seems to have gone some. There is a certain jadedness, maybe even cynicism.
My take? It's just the way of it. It's hard to retain the sparkle because time moves on. It did for the 60s/70s, and it has now done so for OzVMX.
So I am going to get all nostalgic about the nostalgia and start a website to remember the days when we remembered vintage motocross...
PS... the best fun on a vintage dirtbike I've had in ages happened on saturday morning at CD8. I took my IT175G out for its first decent ride since I built it and had a bloody ripper time flogging around the enduro loop. If only it could have been 20km long! I'm over racing - I'm going back to my roots and do more goofing off on old dirtbikes. Might even buy me a TT500 and learn to chuck wheelies again.
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spot on G - I am going to the Nats to have a ride and catch up with mates - those racing for sheep stations please wave going past! I haven't had so much fun for many years until I found VMX
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I've been a bit missing for a while ,just been busy and low on cash but once i sort a few things out i will get back on my bikes again and catch up for a beer and ride . Hope to have a beer with Fully Loaded man and all the crew at CD 9 . The forums important to all of us so stop bitching and go to a happy place . Hilly
Geez, they are all coming out of the woodwork now ::) ;D Where you been man?. There is still some green ginger left in that bottle. We've been saving some for you. Also - you realise you are locked in to CD9 now, and so is DJ ;)
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Full moon ;D
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I was casting through the entires for the Classic nats 2011, i think out of 50 entries so far only one i cas see is a forum member...... not sure what that means just thought it was interesting.
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I was casting through the entires for the Classic nats 2011, i think out of 50 entries so far only one i cas see is a forum member...... not sure what that means just thought it was interesting.
That doesn't surprise me at all...
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MMM - Freaky off the top of my head I can think of several?
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It's called "soloitis" and all solo riders get it. They just want to win all the time and will spend heaps to do so.
Sidecaritis on the other hand, seems to work the opposite-that is, when you ride an outfit you have to find a mate to ride with for starters. Then you find yourself having to loan all sorts of stuff to other sidecarists to keep them running and they have to do the same for you. As we are all in this together we have to pit to together, eat together and sometimes even sleep with your passenger (like Wayne and Helen & Dave and Helen-different Helen!!) Party together and sometimes race together.
So if you are looking to get that 'ol feeling back-get an extra wheel.....
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it says my dick is tiny.
That's odd. She never mentioned it.....
maybee she didnt want to hurt your feeling
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It's called "soloitis" and all solo riders get it. They just want to win all the time and will spend heaps to do so.
Hmm good point, it is not that surprising that given a competitive environment of any type an ex MX rider turns it into a dick waving circus act.
I think the differing eras of riders also makes a difference to the attitude on the forum, in the 1970s it was all peace and love, football jerseys and a quick reefer at lunch time, but the guys who rode in the 1980s / 90s had started to morph in to the splat graphic, high topped, hair gelled, self absorbed cliquey wankers that are still enjoying MX right to this day. So two very different MX cultures are sharing a common space.
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I think the differing eras of riders also makes a difference to the attitude on the forum, in the 1970s it was all peace and love, football jerseys
I blame AIDS - we had lots of sex (and quite randomly) back then and I don't think we had time to get frustrated. Feel sorry for the post-AIDS lot. Partying was a lot different back then too, very little social pressure on you if you got drunk and just had fun - party songs had no meaning or social messages either damn you Midnight Oil....
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maybee she didnt want to hurt your feeling
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Maybe she didn't want to feel you hurting :D :D
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What are any of you hoping to gain from the personal attacks?
Do you really think that you'll be able to deliver the knock-out internet punch that will cause the other person to suddenly sit back and think "Gosh, I've suddenly seen the error of my ways - my personality is somewhat unpleasant and I must change it"?
If so, why hasn't it worked so far?
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Where do I buy me one of those attention whores ;D ;D ;D ;D
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They cost more than an RN 400 :o
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The fact is what he criticises is what he what he most loathes about himself.
This is typical attention whore behaviour they can’t help themselves, the main problem with them is people cant just leave them alone. It’s like looking at a car accident you know you shouldn’t look but you do, if left alone they wither and die.
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I just wont be part of your mutual materbation society, patting each other on the back and telling each other how sweet they are.
THEN WHY ARE YOU HERE?
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What's Materbation?
I hope that doesn't include your mate ;D
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They're not made to be used as coffee tables.... ::)[/color]
I don't know Ross you could probably do something quite nice with a blown up Montesa
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I'm only very new around here and I would normally remain quite silent on most matters unless I have something constructive to add to the conversation and I think that time has come so here goes.
I look at this site with awe .. and that specifically includes the people that make it the great site it is. Some of the people embroiled in this and recent stouches have post counts in the thousands .. and then there are others that are under 100. For me, a large post count would amount to some level of respect ... like respecting my elders even though I don't always agree with their point, it's exactly that. Their point and I respect that. I expect that is a two way street.
So FFS people stop attacking and baiting each other ... please. Graeme (Admin guy) just lock these threads down please. Whilst they appear to be quite "entertaining" for short period of time, it's akin to watching the band play as the Titanic sinks.
Let's not destroy what we came to enjoy .... please let's focus on the VMX game.
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So FFS people stop attacking and baiting each other ... please. Graeme (Admin guy) just lock these threads down please.
Normally things round here work pretty hands off .... unless things turn much uglier than they are at the moment nothing will be locked down.
Though I must admit it is probably hard to tell the difference between a normal attack and bait amoungst the guys who actually physically know each other and the rougher exchange of views between friends who havn't met yet. ;D Theres enough offended people in society as it is without getting attaching too much importance to this back and forth.
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In another forum I attend they have "ignore" software (can choose to not see a certain posters posts) and it's just great, changes the whole forum and threads and has stopped nearly all bitch fights there.
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It's called "soloitis" and all solo riders get it. They just want to win all the time and will spend heaps to do so.
Hmm good point, it is not that surprising that given a competitive environment of any type an ex MX rider turns it into a dick waving circus act.
I think the differing eras of riders also makes a difference to the attitude on the forum, in the 1970s it was all peace and love, football jerseys and a quick reefer at lunch time, but the guys who rode in the 1980s / 90s had started to morph in to the splat graphic, high topped, hair gelled, self absorbed cliquey wankers that are still enjoying MX right to this day. So two very different MX cultures are sharing a common space.
marcFX
Are you serious,what a crazy generalisation of both era's,you were definatly not involed to have this perception WTF,
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marcFX
Are you serious,what a crazy generalisation of both era's,you were definatly not involed to have this perception WTF,
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I don't know, things changed in MX and Enduro from a bunch of hairies in Belstaffs turning up with Elsinores and 6x4 trailers, to the 80s era when things went more 'pro' .... I blame splat graphics and closed trailers.
The 80s-90s and 2000s are pretty much the same, Hi Aces, hi Tops and hair gel ;D
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Chill Pill Chill Pill Chill Pill.
Peronally I hadn't raced for nearly 30 years until last year.
I started out thinking I'll just cruise around and have a bit of fun, but what I did find was that the Competitive Mongrel inside was still there, although dick size has never been as issue for me.
At the momment I'm totally enjoying my newly re-found hobby.
One thing I have noticed is that the "Modern" competitors still party and enjoy the scene just as much, if not more so than guy's from the good old days.
What jumps out at me is that they look after their health & fitness a whole lot better.
The written word can be read 2 ways, use the icon's more.
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For those who feel the need for attention or just like to stir the pot go Pro don't play with us amateurs man up and go play with the big boys.
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marcFX
Are you serious,what a crazy generalisation of both era's,you were definatly not involed to have this perception WTF,
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I don't know, things changed in MX and Enduro from a bunch of hairies in Belstaffs turning up with Elsinores and 6x4 trailers, to the 80s era when things went more 'pro' .... I blame splat graphics and closed trailers.
The 80s-90s and 2000s are pretty much the same, Hi Aces, hi Tops and hair gel ;D
Lol ... I can't vouch for the 90's or 2000's but in the 80's if you showed up with a motorcycle trailer (god forbid it be semi enclosed!!!)instead of a box trailer and could afford a car more flash than a mid 70's Ford or Holden V8 then you were obviously a prima donna factory rider ;D ;D
No hiaces or hair gel from where I was sitting inthe 80's ;D
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My problem is that I just wont tow the line.
Where are you going to toe it to? ;D
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No hiaces or hair gel from where I was sitting inthe 80's ;D
Hmmm maybe not, but I remember the mid/late 80s ADB doing articles on fitting Recaro seats to Steve Galls Hiace and Laurie Aldertons or some such hygeine tips.
Guess by the late 80s I had got to the point financially where I didn't have to sleep in the car in a Salvation Army blanket and was getting 10% off my tyres so felt semi pro.... hell i had a KTM350 and thought gold was just round the corner ;D
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Hmmm maybe not, but I remember the mid/late 80s ADB doing articles on fitting Recaro seats to Steve Galls Hiace and Laurie Aldertons or some such hygeine tips.
:D I rest my case ..... the rest of us were still sleeping in the back of our holden panel vans with army blankets
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No hair Gel back then, Californian Poppy or Brilcreme were the go for the discerning gentleman.
Can you still buy that stuff?
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THEN WHY ARE YOU HERE?
there's an awful lot of good people on here (95%). :)
Gee thanks Ross, that's the nicest thing you have ever said to me...... :-*
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No hair Gel back then, Californian Poppy or Brilcreme were the go for the discerning gentleman.
Can you still buy that stuff?
I think Brylcreme is still on the shelf at discerning Barbers ////next to the Brut33 .... god I think I even had Thor Nylons with little Space Invaders on them and Kiss Mark pattern KTM seat cover.... :o ... that is sooo wrong outside of Oxford St.
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Because apart from the dicks (like yourself) who I constantly come up against
You seem to be confused, you make it your business to butt in all on your own and tell others who and what they are.
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(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1052255/marvin.jpg)
Not really... ::)
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Not really... ::)
Good days, sit down to eat dinner then all watch the "Bugs Bunny Show" after it!
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Sorry for the long post but......
Like Simo, I too am relatively new to this forum and do not want to make comment on what other people say on it but rather share my experience of the site and how important it is to the sport of VMX, that we all profess to love
About 3 years ago I got back into riding after almost 20 years and do a fair bit of organised adventure stuff or bush bashing with mates. I did a ride off a mates farm some time back and he had a shed full of all his old bikes which we all reminisced over a few beers. About the same tome I found a website (DDR) and had another nostalgic moment looking at all the old bikes I use to ride with mates back in my school days and dreamed about how I would love to restore an RM465Z, my dream bike as a kid.
I can't remember how, but I came across OZVMX and started trawling through old threads and it was like a flash of light! All of a sudden I felt that sourcing a bike and restoring it was doable and not some crazy pipe dream. So through direct information supplied from members and indirect info gleaned from posts I finally sourced a bike from the USA and am well on the way to having it rideable and ready to race.
Do you realise that as a direct result of this site I have learned an incredible amount of information on how to do things properly, I have done business with GMC, Alpha Sports, Suziparts, Vintage Suzuki to name a just a few. Iv'e sourced numerous parts from members only too happy to lend a hand to a stranger on the other end of a keyboard. I have also joined up to Heaven VMX and will hopefully start coming along to events as soon as the bike is done (in a few months). Non of this would have happened without this website
This site is often touted as one of the best in the world for VMX and as such is not only a source of information and avenue for good suppliers but it is a fantastic vehicle to inspire and bring more people to the sport like myself, if you weaken it you weaken the sport.
Too many people like Firko and JI and others (some of who actually sent me personal messages to assist me on the RM) have now left and collectively with it goes 100's of years of experience, knowledge and memories and the site and sport is weaker for it. Again sorry for the long post
Cheers
Bitten
Ps Hope to meet some people face to face at some events in the not too distant future
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Dont frett Bitten, a lot of the piss taking is just that,old crusty vmxers get bored after living vmx since 1989 at first meeting. Some times you can feel the love and parts and info often changes hand for no money
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Ps Hope to meet some people face to face at some events in the not too distant future
As I have mentioned quite a few people actually know each other face to face ... so I would take a lot of the general ranting as an extention pit racing and take it with a grain of salt.
What makes this site great, the tech stuff, bike builds and VMX tips is still on here, in other places in the forum..... the General Discussion/ Bike Talk just tends to be a bit of a free for all.
One of the big advantages of having a very active forum with lots of members is you never have to wait more than a few minutes for an answer on anything. The disadvantge is it takes all sorts like any sizable population, so you get some weirdos and whack jobs as part of the deal.
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I like it because I get to talk sidecarcross-------no-one listens but I keep talkin' about it anyway. :D :D :D
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There's sidecar talk on here?
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There's sidecar talk on here?
;)
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There's sidecar talk on here?
Yeah it comes under the weirdos and whack jobs I mentioned in the previous post ;D
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Thanks guys-I'll just keep talkin' to myself.
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what are sidecars?
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Thanks guys-I'll just keep talkin' to myself.
I,me listening EML.
Some of my best mates were mx sidecar pilots.
Now that I come to think of it they were my only mates and they were a bit funny. ;D
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what are sidecars?
Same thing as a tricycle for guys who can't yet ride a 2 wheeler.. :)
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Some of my best mates were mx sidecar pilots.
Now that I come to think of it they were my only mates and they were a bit funny. ;D
Funny – hysterical
Or
Funny – peculiar
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779 just took the chair off his RM500 and found he couldn't hold it up at CD :o
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Dear tri-wheelers, I write to complain: your freakin' sidecars are somehow sneaking back onto the agenda.
(Personal note to EML, as no-one else listens to you ...)
MY ARGUMENT
I got sucked in at CD7, and was nearly crying by the time I finished my ONE PALTRY LAP
of driving ... at idle speed. I was utterly confounded and sooooo sad.
Steve BAKER keeps on at me, about getting aboard.
And a fortnight ago, Popeye told me something that I (personally) found amazing - that all
sidecar drivers are effectively full-lock as they gas it in a straight line. Wow! (Something about trailer wheel drag ...)
MC Macca told me that back in the 1990s he was a very pro-style, really really fit MXer.
And that, after 1.5 laps in a chair, he had to slap the driver in head and beg him to stop - before Macca fell off in exhaustion.
You Chair Bears are all Vikings. I don't know how you do it. What I DO KNOW is that you'll
never conn me again, ya bastards!
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Dear tri-wheelers, I write to complain: your freakin' sidecars are somehow sneaking back onto the agenda.
(Personal note to EML, as no-one else listens to you ...)
MY ARGUMENT
And that, after 1.5 laps in a chair, he had to slap the driver in head and beg him to stop - before Macca fell off in exhaustion.
You Chair Bears are all Vikings. I don't know how you do it. What I DO KNOW is that you'll
never conn me again, ya bastards!
Rog the secret is to relax and not hold on to tight :) obviously an reasonable level of fittness helps but most new swingers suffer arm pump almost immediatley due to holding on to tightly ;)
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Bill- relax and dont hold on tight.....hmmm i could not possibly comment lol
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Some of my best mates were mx sidecar pilots.
Now that I come to think of it they were my only mates and they were a bit funny. ;D
Funny – hysterical
Or
Funny – peculiar
Both ;D
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After a while I learnt to hang on only when I needed to and rested for the rest---around corners is a bludge-over jumps is 'air time'---that is, suck it in. Down the straights it's hold on with one finger and rest the other muscles.
I have been to gyms and tried to get them to do me a program but when they ask which muscles I ues and when-I just tell them " all of them -all the time". It's like a jungle-gym that does 100klm/hr and leaps into the air. They just can't get the gist of it until I show them something on the google whatsit, then they shake their heads and mutter something about 'madness' and shuffle off to leave me to it.
BUT I LOVE IT!!!!(if anyone is listening).
BTW there is a great you tube of Hansi and Fritz in their heyday racing in Switzerland and as Popeye said they are fuul noise up the staright, over the bumps and on full opposite-lock. Fan-bloody-tastic to watch.
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I remember reading in a M.A. newsletter some years ago that all four top placers in the Aus' speedway sidecar championships all tested positive for pot.
How did this turn into a sidecar thread?
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tested positive for pot.
Is that all !! :o
Nice thread hijack swingers- good stuff :P
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all four top placers in the Aus' speedway sidecar championships all tested positive for pot.
I think I knew those guys from my WA days 8)
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all four top placers in the Aus' speedway sidecar championships all tested positive for pot.
I think I knew those guys from my WA days 8)
Does that mean you remember so you didn't have as good a time as they did or that you think you remember but uncertain meaning you did have as good a time as they did? ;)
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Can you post us the youtube address for Hansi Fritz clip please, EML ..?
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I can't get it to fit in an envelope :D :D :D
I'll try to work it out and send it on.
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It's called "soloitis" and all solo riders get it. They just want to win all the time and will spend heaps to do so.
Sidecaritis on the other hand, seems to work the opposite-that is, when you ride an outfit you have to find a mate to ride with for starters. Then you find yourself having to loan all sorts of stuff to other sidecarists to keep them running and they have to do the same for you. As we are all in this together we have to pit to together, eat together and sometimes even sleep with your passenger (like Wayne and Helen & Dave and Helen-different Helen!!) Party together and sometimes race together.
So if you are looking to get that 'ol feeling back-get an extra wheel.....
Or Wayne & Dave...........or Helen & Helen !!!!! ;D :P
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A man goes to Fiji on holiday and misses all the fun this week ::) ::)
In my opinion,the great thing about this forum and the sport we race (VMX) is that we all get together at various events,and can discuss things face to face.Those individuals that disagree about certain issues can discuss them,and not hide behind red typing or subtle childish jibes.
End of story.
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One certain from net forums is , the person who writes in colored text or attacks you from behind there keyboard writes PM to the moderator, will never ever face you look you in the eye and say I'm (insert forum name here)
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Doggy Digger, try GOOGLE "mx sidecar racing" and it should be the 1st to come up.