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Marque Remarks => Suzuki => Topic started by: brad747 on February 15, 2008, 04:47:11 pm

Title: SUZUKI WORKS RA125
Post by: brad747 on February 15, 2008, 04:47:11 pm
Hey,
Is there anyone out there that can give me any info or pics on a 1973 ra125?
I want to restore one or make a replica. Any pics?

Brad
Title: Re: SUZUKI WORKS RA125
Post by: firko on February 15, 2008, 06:20:43 pm
Welcome back Brad........Unfortunately you are out of luck looking for a '73 RA Suzuki. The World 125 Motocross Championship didn't start until 1975. Suzuki signed little Gaston Rahier to contest the title and to do it properly they produced the first RA 125, the RA75. The bike was a ripper and went on to win the title and repeated the deed in '76.
Shown below is a shot of the RA76 which is almost identical to look at as the RA75. If that bike is the one you want to replicate you couldn't go wrong by having a look at Mark Cotterells RM125 B in VMX #15. It's a tad too blingy for a proper replica but it has the genuine ex Rahier RA swingarm I supplied him.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/RA125_640.jpg)
Title: Re: SUZUKI WORKS RA125
Post by: brad747 on February 15, 2008, 10:14:36 pm
Hey,
Thanx for your help but i'm looking for the more tm look, like decosters rn73.
I Found this one pic cliaming to be a 1972 ra125. So i thought if there is a 72, there must of been a 73?
might have to contact suzuki ay!
I'm thinking i could get a tm125 frame, move the shock mounts forward and make a custom swingarm.
 
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l96/brad427/rn73.jpg)
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l96/brad427/1972_RA125_Scott-1_900.jpg)
Title: Re: SUZUKI WORKS RA125
Post by: Lozza on February 15, 2008, 10:56:07 pm
That swingarm looks like a standard arm with new lower mounts and a rib running round it.The engine looks to be identical to the RM miles away from the TM
Title: Re: SUZUKI WORKS RA125
Post by: Maico31 on February 15, 2008, 11:08:43 pm
Brad that lower picture certainly does look like an early works 125 Suzuki prior to the '75 RA that Gaston Rahier rode. My guess is it's in the Japanese championships before the World 125 championship began.
Title: Re: SUZUKI WORKS RA125
Post by: firko on February 15, 2008, 11:18:20 pm
 I'm still pretty certain they didn't make an RA 1973. There is no record of them in my Suzuki literature, although they may have used the designation in Japan. Maybe Dave Tanner can clarify the situation.
The swingarm on the RA 75 is fabricated from sheet titanium. I had it in my shed for years until I swapped it fir a pair of Fox Airshox.
 
Title: Re: SUZUKI WORKS RA125
Post by: Doc on February 16, 2008, 12:22:33 am
that's a fair swap Firko  ;)

I'm no expert on factory stuff or any stuff for that matter but I can't remember much in the way of RA's until Gaston hit the scene. Still the bike I'd most like to own  ;)
Brad, you are in a good position here, if no-one knows what they looked like then you can build it anyway you like and no-one can argue the point. Incase you didn't notice, I just built a rare '74 RA125 ;D but they still won't let it in pre '75  :P
Title: Re: SUZUKI WORKS RA125
Post by: brad747 on February 16, 2008, 07:24:45 am
Hey, Oh really, what frame did you use? tm?
Does it have to much suspesion travel for pre 75?
I wouldn't mind seeing a couple of pics, You can email them to me if you like, [email protected]

Brad
Title: Re: SUZUKI WORKS RA125
Post by: Doc on February 16, 2008, 08:13:48 am
sorry, was just kidding Brad ;) the bike mentioned is just an RM125S engine in a TM.
Title: Re: SUZUKI WORKS RA125
Post by: bigk on February 16, 2008, 09:32:29 am
I have a '73 TM125 frame & a couple of '75 RM125S frames if you need a starting point. Oh, and an ugly but 90% complete '74 TM125.
Cheers,
K.
Title: Re: SUZUKI WORKS RA125
Post by: TM BILL on February 16, 2008, 10:06:14 am
Brad where did you find the bottom picture ? do you have any more.
The fork legs on that bike are different to the TM 125 forks but look similar to those on the pre production TM 125 K .
I have a picture of one but dont know how to post pics here  :(
Title: Re: SUZUKI WORKS RA125
Post by: brad747 on February 16, 2008, 06:36:09 pm
Well, I found it a couple of days ago searching ra125 but when i went to search it again i couldnt find it, but lukily i saved it in my photos. I will check my history!

To load photos just go to photobucket.com
And the load your pics and get the code that says [IMG] and paste it into here!

BIGK, Where abouts are you located?

Brad
Title: Re: SUZUKI WORKS RA125
Post by: brad747 on February 16, 2008, 06:45:22 pm
Hey,
I found it on the suzukicycles site
http://www.suzukicycles.org/RH-RN-series/RA125-articles.shtml

(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l96/brad427/1972_RA125_Scott-1_900.jpg)
It says
1972 Suzuki RA125 picture. Scott Andersen from USA mailed me this interesting picture of a very rare bike, a '72 RA125. Scott got the picture from Christian Gouverneur of Belgium, who raced the bike in 1972. Scott tells us that only two bikes were made for racing in Belgium. The bike was extremely lightweight — evidently it was so light you could pick it up and carry it around. The RA125 had radial finned head, chromemoly frame and aluminum tank. Basically it was a shrunk-down version of the RH250.
Title: Re: SUZUKI WORKS RA125
Post by: brad747 on February 24, 2008, 06:20:47 pm
does anyone now if a rm125m/s clutch cover fit a rm125a?
Title: Re: SUZUKI WORKS RA125
Post by: Doc on February 24, 2008, 06:24:36 pm
no, they won't interchange with an A. The RM-M or S covers swap with TM125  ;)
Title: Re: SUZUKI WORKS RA125
Post by: 211kawasaki on February 24, 2008, 09:47:35 pm
I never knew about the 72 RA, I was with Firko and the 75/76 thing, I even went to one of the race meets at Amaroo where Gaston was having a ride, still remember how much Suzuki had done to the RA to fit Gaston who was a really small guy. Foot pegs for one.

I guess what I was trying to do with my TM125 10 years ago was to make a 125 that looked like a works bike, look forward to what you come up with, check out VMX issue 3 for a look at my one.

DT

On the race day at Amaroo, I crashed my brains out on the jump on the main straight, it was made bigger for the event and my MX250B crashed all the way to the left hander at the end of the straight, day over, race one! way way out of my depth.
Title: Re: SUZUKI WORKS RA125
Post by: Freakshow on February 25, 2008, 04:39:45 pm
Ouch...........
Title: Re: SUZUKI WORKS RA125
Post by: vmx42 on February 26, 2008, 05:15:17 pm
So Dave that was you. I was there that day, good crash my son!
VMX42
Title: Re: SUZUKI WORKS RA125
Post by: brad747 on March 01, 2008, 07:29:28 pm
Hi, Can any one please tell me what sort of price would you be looking at to get a 73 tm125? pretty ordinary condition?
Any help would be appriciated
Title: Re: SUZUKI WORKS RA125
Post by: Doc on March 02, 2008, 08:34:44 pm
Ideally for me an 'ordinary' type TM125 could sell anywhere between $600-$1000 depending on the day. Unfortunately I don't know which days coincide. Basketcases about $350-$450 depending what's missing and 'ted. Usually it's the good stuff. Mag cover, electrics, pipe, carb..the rest isn't too hard to find  ;)
Title: Re: SUZUKI WORKS RA125
Post by: brad747 on March 02, 2008, 09:23:34 pm
Thanx mate, i just sealed a deal with a guy in brisbane! $800 for an ok tm125 a spare frame, bottom end, works pipe, nos clutch and mag cover!! :)