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Clubroom => Vintage Track => Topic started by: Freakshow on May 03, 2011, 10:07:54 pm

Title: Chain wax, chain grease, mutton fat or spray lube ?? whats the go on the primary
Post by: Freakshow on May 03, 2011, 10:07:54 pm

just washe dup the primary chain from the weekend and wanted to relube it before i refit it.  hence i got a lot of differant expressions on what to you.

some say bake it others say just use normal chain spray ? other say mutton fat ?

OK so i get that they want the chain to stay cool, but whats the differance and what should i be using and more so what are ther CURRENT AVAILABLE choices ??

shoot away !!! :D

Title: Re: Chain wax, chain grease, mutton fat or spray lube ??? whats the go
Post by: matcho mick on May 03, 2011, 10:33:47 pm

is it proper primary chain,(ie bigger clearances),or just rear drive chain?,a good spray chain lube will do,not too much near the clutch ::), :P

Title: Re: Chain wax, chain grease, mutton fat or spray lube ??? whats the go
Post by: Freakshow on May 03, 2011, 11:50:21 pm

yep its a regina 428 on the speedway bike.  its a real primary..... Pin clearanced and all that.

Title: Re: Chain wax, chain grease, mutton fat or spray lube ?? whats the go on the primary
Post by: Freakshow on May 04, 2011, 12:55:50 am

i heard soaked in 50/50 - 90w gear oil and molysoduim somthing or graphite powder.

Title: Re: Chain wax, chain grease, mutton fat or spray lube ?? whats the go on the primary
Post by: JAP 454 on May 04, 2011, 06:41:53 am

Hey Freaky
Used to soak my primaries as you posted, then let the excess drain off before fitting, Molyslip was the additive, cant remember how much, molybdenum disulphide maybe.
OH yeah, as Mick says , a light spray, used to do mine after each heat , when chain was warm.
Foss

Title: Re: Chain wax, chain grease, mutton fat or spray lube ?? whats the go on the primary
Post by: Freakshow on May 04, 2011, 01:31:18 pm

so what are we saying clean it and try to fill the holes so the dirt dont get in ? or light srpay with a can and fill the gaps that way ?   im kinda thinking all the greease does is to stop the shit getting in the poller pins ? and pushes the dirt away as it flies back out, where as the chain in a can goes inwards.  unless its still dirty then it takes the dirt with it.

any advance on this ? do plutoline still make that chain wax in a big tin ?

Title: Re: Chain wax, chain grease, mutton fat or spray lube ?? whats the go on the primary
Post by: Freakshow on May 22, 2011, 08:03:10 pm

OK so i have it soaking in 90W and have bought a tin or moly grease i was going to heat up and sit it in.  Question is if you heat up the grease does it stay contained at the melting point or does it crack and then when itsolidifys again ( if at all) does it seperate or go back to its mixed form ?

im just thinking how to tackles this, i just dont want to heat it up in a pan to melting point and find its cracked and \seperates or does this only happen at higher than 200 degrees ?

Title: Re: Chain wax, chain grease, mutton fat or spray lube ?? whats the go on the primary
Post by: pancho on May 31, 2011, 06:25:59 pm

 The best treatment I saw used back in '68 was when we got a new chain, run it at a track day, then took it down to some place at Auburn off Parramatta rd and had it Moly-baked. It run the full event in the '68 six hour without needing any adjustment after practice adj. I used the same chain for about four years after that and sold the bike still with a good chain. We were told not to treat an unused chain or it would tighten up.Maybe there is a better system now?
  cheers pancho

Title: Re: Chain wax, chain grease, mutton fat or spray lube ?? whats the go on the primary
Post by: Freakshow on May 31, 2011, 11:53:20 pm

MOly baked ? never heard of that - who does it a coater of some kind ?

Title: Re: Chain wax, chain grease, mutton fat or spray lube ?? whats the go on the primary
Post by: pancho on June 01, 2011, 12:09:39 pm

 Apparently it's a process where the chain or whatever is cooked at a certain temperature in molybdenum disulphide powder [not grease, as I understand it].
 Clearance between the parts is affected by the coating which can cause a problem with a new chain.
 I believe the company name was Molybond Australia. Dont know if that co. is still around  but I'd be surprised if someone's not doing it anyhow.
 cheers pancho.