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Title: Trans-AMA 1973: VMX Challenge back on the table ...
Post by: Doggy Digger on March 23, 2011, 10:01:49 am
(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b431/DoggyDigger/NAMES.jpg)
Title: Re: Trans-AMA 1973: VMX Challenge back on the table ...
Post by: jerry on March 23, 2011, 10:31:17 am
I think too early for Tony D. Might be Mike Runyard although it kools like Tony D. J
Title: Re: Trans-AMA 1973: VMX Challenge back on the table ...
Post by: vmx42 on March 23, 2011, 10:48:01 am
Tony D was never that skinny. He was still on a CZ in 73. I agree it looks more like Mike Runyard.

But the Morris Maloney fans will be chuffed he got a mention.

I have a copy of that poster and it has the names of the riders, but doesn't point to them on the poster. So you have to guess the less well known riders. There are 33 riders and only 28 names supplied.

Noted on the poster and missing from your list are: Bruce Baron and Tim Hart.

I hope that helps. But I have no idea who the missing 5 riders are, that is one for the OzVMX brains trust.



Sorry Rog, I have just looked again and you have Tim Rice labelled, but that is actually Tim Hart. One writes a pretty good musical and the other was a factory Yamaha rider…  ;D So of the known names, only Bruce Baron is missing. I remember him being very tall and skinny which probably doesn't help much…

And I don't think Jim Ellis was racing with the big boys in 73. Looking at the poster I don't think it is him?
Title: Re: Trans-AMA 1973: VMX Challenge back on the table ...
Post by: jerry on March 23, 2011, 11:39:40 am
Bloke next to Bauer might be Billy Clements. J
Title: Re: Trans-AMA 1973: VMX Challenge back on the table ...
Post by: cappra on March 24, 2011, 05:37:54 am
(http://www.southwestmontesa.com/images/NAMES.jpg)

This was a poster that Torsten Hallman used to show all the riders who wore his gear..Picture was taken at Arizona Cycle Park.
Poster is available at amsracing.com
Title: Re: Trans-AMA 1973: VMX Challenge back on the table ...
Post by: vmx42 on March 24, 2011, 08:32:13 am
Not sure about Marty Smith. He was still a SoCal local on a Monark in 73. Not sure it even looks like him.

Also not sure about Gaylon or Rick Burgett…

But I do like the curve ball of sticking a CZ Factory Mechanic in there to mess with the punters trying to work this out.  :D
Title: Re: Trans-AMA 1973: VMX Challenge back on the table ...
Post by: jerry on March 24, 2011, 08:34:14 am
I dont think that could be Marty Smith. Too early in his career? J
Title: Re: Trans-AMA 1973: VMX Challenge back on the table ...
Post by: JohnnyO on March 24, 2011, 08:40:25 am
Yeah i don't think that's Marty Smith either but i think Gaylon is right and rode a Honda back then.
Title: Re: Trans-AMA 1973: VMX Challenge back on the table ...
Post by: firko on March 24, 2011, 09:13:33 am
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i think Gaylon is right and rode a Honda back then.   
I thought Gaylon was on Maicos at that time John? I also seem to remember remember Gaylons hair being longer and straighter.
Title: Re: Trans-AMA 1973: VMX Challenge back on the table ...
Post by: cappra on March 24, 2011, 09:17:45 am
On the actual poster there are 28 names at the bottom.
There are 33 people shown.  The names at the bottom are:
Willy Baur, Sylvain Geboers, Roger Decoster, John Desoto, Billy Clements, Jim Cooke, Billy Grossi,
Mark Blackwell, Wayne Boyer, Morris Malone, Bruce Baron, Jim West, Mike Runyard, Rich Thorwaldson,
Rich Eierstedt, Mart Tripes, Dewayne Jones, Peter Lamppu, Brad Lackey, Jimmy Weinert, Tim Hart,
Adolf Weil, Pierre Karsmakers, Taro Suzuki, Mike Hartwig, Jim Pomeroy, Bob Wright and Gerrit Wolsink.
Title: Re: Trans-AMA 1973: VMX Challenge back on the table ...
Post by: jerry on March 24, 2011, 09:44:41 am
Which one's Firko. J
Title: Re: Trans-AMA 1973: VMX Challenge back on the table ...
Post by: cappra on March 24, 2011, 10:00:31 am
2nd from bottom left is a very young Marty Smith ....total rookie Honda team rider....so he got the same color shirt just no print yet...(125's had just come out and Honda stole Marty away from Monarch/Gary Blanton. in San Clemente, California)..
Title: Re: Trans-AMA 1973: VMX Challenge back on the table ...
Post by: Doggy Digger on March 24, 2011, 11:36:12 am
I still reckon guy re-labeled as Burgett is actually Jimmy ELLIS.  (Burgett appeared later, in Hannah's backdraft)

And I feel that the guy labeled as Marty SMITH is:
A/   Too tall
B/   Too non-muscly
C/   Seems to have a full-blown moustache

I believe Firko was on tour with The Band that day, or out to lunch with Blondie ...

(Not that any of this really matters.  The main thing is to keep distracted from one's working day!!)
Title: Re: Trans-AMA 1973: VMX Challenge back on the table ...
Post by: huskibul on March 24, 2011, 11:45:17 am
    Other than the hair he doesnt look at all like marty ! Willi Bauer was the man to beat that year in US and europe :)
Title: Re: Trans-AMA 1973: VMX Challenge back on the table ...
Post by: motomaniac on March 24, 2011, 11:53:29 am
Gaylon was on team Honda , although strange that he has a different jersey to the other team riders.
Burgett was a private CZ rider before getting on team Yamaha so it could be him but I dont think that it is.
Marty Smith won his first 125 title in 74 , so some people think that he rode an open bike in 73 and them went back to the 125's  - come on guys. Besides it doesnt look anything like him . His hair wasnt even that long at that time.
Title: Re: Trans-AMA 1973: VMX Challenge back on the table ...
Post by: motomaniac on March 24, 2011, 11:59:20 am
Tony D ? He was 17 on a CZ in 74 . How did he get a Suzuki ride in 73? Thats Mike Runyard.
Thats not Jimmy Ellis.
Title: Re: Trans-AMA 1973: VMX Challenge back on the table ...
Post by: firko on March 24, 2011, 12:36:35 pm
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I believe Firko was on tour with The Band that day, or out to lunch with Blondie ..
MMMMM 1973? I seem to remember that 1973 was the year I put in some duty as Tuesday Welds toy boy.
Title: Re: Trans-AMA 1973: VMX Challenge back on the table ...
Post by: cappra on March 24, 2011, 01:09:09 pm
Well, somebody should contact Marty Smith and see if that was really him. 
Title: Re: Trans-AMA 1973: VMX Challenge back on the table ...
Post by: Graeme M on November 13, 2011, 09:35:32 pm
Hmmm... this thread is an oldie, but I have received an email from the States stating that the rider in question is not Marty Smith, but is in fact a guy named Dave Czerwinski from SoCal. He rode for Team Montessa that year. My informant works with him and has seen the original poster.