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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: 090 on March 14, 2011, 06:44:45 am
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Just thought I'd share this latest issue with ebay vs people vs underhandedness.
Check my listing as it spells it all out. I have a feeling this guy might just be on here so he can see the shit fight he has caused.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290544780403&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290544780403&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT)
This is from the eventual high bidder/ winner of the auction, copied and pasted.
two days ago i checked my bay site and it said ihad been outbid on this item.there had been 6 bids to $123 dollars.i cannot trust the security of your auction and i refuse to purchase from you. i will be reporting this to ebay. Thank you David
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I had the same thing about 2 weeks ago. I was trying to sell a KTM 250, this guy had got on and drove bids up to about $6k, then 24 hrs later had retracted his bids saying he had entered the wrong amount (How the F%^K do you do that 3 bids in a row). After checking his bidding history, he had done the same thing to 13 of the last 15 bids he had placed in 3 months.
I then offered it to the other bidder but they only wanted to pay the highest bid at the time ($3.5k) before this other dickwad got on. Even though there highest overall bid was $6k.
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I had a scuzball do the same thing on a 125-B i sold/ebayed last year ???
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Brad that sucks >:( im sorry mate i dont know what to suggest but i would have thought the buyer could see from your feed back your a stand up bloke.
It appears your not the first , what do these clowns get out of doing this ??? but at the end of the day Ebay has a policy of fork you we have your money and dont give a fork >:(
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i have had this as well.bidding on a parts bike and was outbid with 1 bid then it was retracked but my bid stood at my max which was a extra 250.00 than the bidding was at before ia am sure the fake bid was placed.i told the sell to get stuffed as i found out the same bidder had done the same thing on the sellers other items as well.ebay took sellers side and i got a - feedback.the bike was relisted and didnt sell again
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sounds like it could be the seller doing it to their own items in some cases?
not you 090!!
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Ebay is pretty useless when theres an issue .I usually get some standard response and nothing more.About all you can do Brad is block the guy from bidding on your auctions in future and report him to ebay.Hopefully if here are enough reports they will do something.
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You can also make a second chance offer to the next highets bidder if the first highest thinks that you are dodgey
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Also watch out for a an email about your item that you are selling and sends an sms on your phone and an email on your computer saying he is keen to buy the item and his name is smith. ( Scam )
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Brad i suppose the reality of it is relist it and blacklist the Tosser who dicked you around ::)
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i won ($51.75) a alloy s/arm for my ossa in the USA,a guy retracted a very high bit saying he bid the wrong amount,but he wasn't in the bidding history previously??,figure just the sellers mate trying to bid me up on my auto's to see what my max was,must of pissed them off!!(when it was only $55),stuck me for $81 for shipping,s/arm turns up with $45 worth of postage,so i guess he made it up on postage??,go figure, :P
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On the same theme I bid for a part and lost to an outrageous bid. The seller contacted me less than an hour later and offered a "second" part for an extra 10% of the selling price. I declined as I suspected the highest bidder was known to the seller and was driving up the price.
John
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Is it any wonder that eBay's a shadow of its former self? From the moment they changed the listing so that the bidder list was anonymous the scammer element has had a field day. I've been buying and selling on eBay since 2000 and used to make a nice little bit of play money from it. I still do it but these days it's losing its shine, putting up with the wankers, non payers and ever growing eBay fees.
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Brad, Have you rang evil- bay... and asked for a check retracted bidder ....to see if this a regular thing. If so have them black listed.
I told you about my similar experience to Matcho Mick with a pair of forks. ???
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Question - How do you retract a bid ???
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Brad sorry to hear about your bad experience.
My experience with Ebay has been dependant on who you deal with, If the seller or buyer is honest no problem. If he is a A Hole, problems with him and then problems with Ebay. Ebay does not look after the Buyer, or the Seller. Ebay looks after Ebay only and they intentionally make it differcult to complain about a transaction that has gone sour. They seem to hope it all becomes too hard for you and you eventually give up and go away. PayPal an Ebay company, holds millions of dollars of user funds, they give terrible exchange rates and are very slow to release payments. Their protection they offer is great until you have a claim, then there is a reason you don not qualify.
I don't know of many people that have not experienced the dark side of Ebay, the trouble is they hold the majority of online trading in this area. I wish there was an alternative that matched them in size and market reach. I personally hate Ebay
Brad, sorry for the rant, but your experience is just a reflection of what goes on in Ebayville and it brings back memories to me of my bad experiences and how Ebay handled (mis) them.
Kevin
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Question - How do you retract a bid ???
I asked the seller and he was happy enough to do it when I punched in a few too many 00's. :-\
That was a while ago.
Like prevous posts its been said before "the systems changing and not in favour". :(
cheers A
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I recently bought a retro mx t shirt on ebay.
With 20 sec to go it still had no bidds and a starting of $9.99.
I placed a bid of $15.00 and got the reply that I was the high bidder at $9.99.
I then went back to my ebay to find that yes I was the winning bidder but at $13.50.
The end cost isn't an issue but this has happened to me a few times now and I smell a rat.
My brother has dealed on ebay for a long time and I know he has things set up where he programmes in how much he is wiiling to bid and the computer will place his bid for him at the last second, I wouldn't be surprised if there is a simmilar programme for the seller to put in a dummy bid.
Another recent experience I had was a seller asked me if I wanted to pay cash for an item and he would remove it from ebay first but wasn't prepared to negotiate the price.
Because my brother really wanted this item I bought it at the buy it now price on the last day which was a Sunday.
When I turned up on Monday with cash in hand his actual words to me were, " how are we going to do this, you might have to be a non payer.
I was gobsmacked that he thought I might agree to it and told him that I was definitely not interested in that and if he pushed the issue all hell would break loose.
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Question - How do you retract a bid ???
go int o site map,then buying resources /tools, find bid retraction and retract bid note you cant retract with less than 12 hrs to go ,i think
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It's a shame the phukers have to spoil a good thing, >:(
there seems to be plenty of dodgy epay deals around now. Multiple user names, mates bidding up goods, ridiculous "handling" charges and all too easy to get out of a "winning" bid.
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Brad ring this number 1800 088 741....ebay Oz call centre, Ok you will get an Indian call centre.
Resolved my problem with this Ph # today
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I should point out that I have a mate who is an ex plod and works for ebay travelling the world advising PD's on ebay fraud & scams.
I've resisted the temptation get him involved in anything so far.
P.S. On one side of the coin the popularity of ebay has driven prices up for the buyer, on the other side we can get more for what we sell.
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I had a guy (samcashews) win an item. he then did not contact me or pay. I tried to contact him, no answer, then through ebay he was contacted and he said he no longer wanted the item. Ebay accepted this. So i wrote to ebay and said that i am now happy to hear that i do not have to honour my bids ( of cause i always would anyway). Ebay wrote back and said i would have to honour my bids. Hypocrycy!!! thats why its called EVILBAY. But we all love it
Brett
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Back when Ebay let you see the username of bidders, I had placed a bid on a motorcycle part being sold by a seller in Victoria and had noticed that a number of bids had been placed by another Ebay member on the item that I had been bidding on that had pushed up the price over my first bid. I thought that the username of the other bidder was familiar, and I found after checking the bidders profile, that the other bidder was selling motorcycle parts on Ebay from the same suburb as the seller. They were not only from the same suburb but!! these Ebay sellers/bidders had the same mobile phone number on their auction listing to ask questions about the item.
I contacted Ebay about this and after their investigation they sent me an email to say that they had found nothing to suggest shill bidding on the item ???
Not long after this Ebay moved to supposedly protect users privacy by hiding usernames.
I have also found that selling on Ebay since this adoption of privacy is difficult, in that, buyers will wait until the auction has ended then many of them send a barrage of messages telling you, the seller, just how much they will buy the item for.
Ebay is dying. Maybe this site or the Ning one can become the Southern Hemisphere portal for selling bike bits..... hmmm ...... Graeme :-\
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At the end of the day, it's just a chin wag really. I was pissed off but life goes on. I just remembered another auction I had was a xt bottom end, won by a guy up north. No word for a while, asked to get paid and found out he closed his account. Life is full of arseholes, but you try to surround yourself with the good arseholes! :D How are you by the way Bill? :D :D
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I asked the seller and he was happy enough to do it when I punched in a few too many 00's.
That was a while ago.
Like prevous posts its been said before "the systems changing and not in favour".
cheers A
Ok so you cant retract your bid yourself, you have to ask the seller to retract/cancel your bid
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Question - How do you retract a bid ???
go int o site map,then buying resources /tools, find bid retraction and retract bid note you cant retract with less than 12 hrs to go ,i think
I asked the seller and he was happy enough to do it when I punched in a few too many 00's.
That was a while ago.
Like prevous posts its been said before "the systems changing and not in favour".
cheers A
Ok so you cant retract your bid yourself, you have to ask the seller to retract/cancel your bid
yep !! but that was "BACK IN THE DAY" of nice assholes ;D
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Ebay does not look after the Buyer, or the Seller. Ebay looks after Ebay only
I was wondering how long it would take for someone to post a thread bagging E-bay after all the praise E-bay was getting in the ‘wreckers closing down’ thread. ;D ;D
I think if a bidder retracts a bid then all bids from their first bid should be removed, not just their last bid.
I can understand the remaining bidder’s suspicion and your own frustration.
Easiest thing to do is restart the auction which signals your honesty and ban the user from any of your auctions to stop it happening again.
Of course there will always be a new pain to take his place.
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Re: Ebay issue. Wanted to put it out there.
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i won ($51.75) a alloy s/arm for my ossa in the USA,a guy retracted a very high bit saying he bid the wrong amount,but he wasn't in the bidding history previously??,figure just the sellers mate trying to bid me up on my auto's to see what my max was,must of pissed them off!!(when it was only $55),stuck me for $81 for shipping,s/arm turns up with $45 worth of postage,so i guess he made it up on postage??,go figure,
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When a seller uses postage costs to supplyment the purchase price I use a trick I learned from a mate who buys a lot off ebay.
eg Seller charges ($32 postage and goods arrive showing actual cost of $13.50) I email the seller and say I noticed you have managed to get a better rate on my postage, I realise you might have a small handling charge so if you can arrange to refund me the difference I can then complete your feedback.
Most sellers dont like bad feedback so its surprising how many do refund money to your paypal account.
Zane
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It is suprising though you try and help some one out local and then they put things on ebay the buggered motor out of my dads car came up on ebay as a perfect runner a1 performance wise and the bore was decked and motor was absolutely stuffed.
I don't understand how some of the sellers sleep at night how can you describe something as perfect when you have been told and or know that it is actually stuffed and missing parts.
I contacted ebay about it and they didn't want to hear it when I am telling them that I know the item is actually beyond repair not complete or a running item ready to go as described by the seller who knows it isn't.
Although I was selling some rims and the guy said I should take them to melbourne because I advertised I could drop them off anywhere in or around Geelong, I said that Melbourne won't be happening and copped alot of abuse but because he hadn't paid he couldn't leave bad feedback as he told me he would so in that respect it can protect you as a seller from cock heads.
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I won a part not long ago and was the only bidder. It was a yamaha speedo and starting bid was $0.99 with no reserve. In fairness I expected it to go for around $60-$80 but there was no interest. I won it for $0.99 and then got an email from the seller that he dropped it and cracked the lens cover and trashed it.
I contacted him and asked what he wanted for it but didn't get a reply. Some satisfaction on my part.
I've seen the same item for sale again so he obviously "fixed" it.
John
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Report him and same on paypal. tell him you want the broken parts mailed ;o0
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hey what's the go when you sell something on ebay and the buyer hasn't contacted you or replied to your messages. It's been 4 days and no word.
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Burn him too !
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I would give it a little time. Buyer may have computer issues or been away from the computer for a bit.
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No they've been busy buying other stuff so they're at the computer. I contacted ebay and filed and unpaid item claim.
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i recently won 1 and a half IT175's for bugger all, 155 bucks or something lik that.
been 9 days cant contact the guy. it seems he wasnt happy wit the price and doesnt want to sell. I sent him a message saying i realised the price was very cheap and maybe we could work something out, no reply to that one either.
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Yool find it is a binding contract. There was a bloke who sold an aircraft on fleabay and there was a ruckus about how it finished. After bottom feeding parasites running it through the courts it was decided by the court the sale was valid. Ole mate had to give his machine away for the price it went for AND pay more for bottom feeding parasites. So for a small price of $378,493 for BFP's you can force the issue through the court and claim the mighty 175. Worth it yoo recon? ;D