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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: Nathan S on August 05, 2007, 06:53:42 pm
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As much as Ebay shits me, I will admit that I've had a good run, in terms of avoiding being ripped off.
Until now...
Bought a Nintendo 64. Advertised as being in working condition.
Got it and guess what... Yeah, it doesn't work.
Sent the seller a polite email saying "I doesn't work" and have received no reply (they're an ebay store, so they sell heaps of stuff, and I have no doubt that they've read the email).
Then I went and had a look at their feedback... Several other people have given them negative feedback ("Item doesn't work") and they always cop neg feedback in return.
So... Seeing as I've done nothing wrong, is there any way to give this arsehole a hard time without copping neg feedback myself?
Oh, and forking Fagan's Fabulous Finds (ephantcc) gets the thumbs down from me (totally different issue).
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To avoid a neg feedback wait until the 3 month cutoff date is just minutes from being up and hit them with a Negative blast. If you time it right they cannot respond to it by dumping one on you as the opertunity to leave feedback has passed by.
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hey Nathan. let the process take its course. send another email stating that if the issue is not attended two within three days that is satisfactory then a dispute will be registered with Ebay. Lodge the dispute and the seller must respond and ebay will decide .. if you win the dispute you can apply to have any negative feedback removed from your profile. There are time constraints for action and recourse so do check them out
Do reread the original advertisement for the item under question and be concise with your email of what you expect to occur to the seller .
cheers.
orr if your willing to wear the monetary loss. wait till the very LAST day allowed for feedback then hammer them good and they have no time to sting you back.. Timing be essential here.
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had the same problem with a bike wrecker that advertises their wares on a shiny piece of chequerplate.
when questioned over their poor description of good condition,and receiving no reply,I left negative feedback.
They then gave me a negative feedback as a payback,even though they had full payment before sending goods.
E-bays best offer was to agree to disagree and pull both negatives from public viewing.
I left it as it was,at least anyone viewing my tarnished feedback record could see my reply.
All in all,it was only one incident in many positive transactions.
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Honesty be the best policy Gorby. Good to see men of character like you still exist
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how did you pay for the item ? i use only paypal if they dont have then i dont buy from them. i have a case open with a seller right now and its done throught paypal once its open you have 15 days to sort it out with seller then if its not resolved you have to inform paypal and they take over, good luck :)
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Not PayPal...
Sent this, this morning:
Hello again,
We've tried it on a different TV and it still doesn't work.
I would like a full refund of both the purchase price and postage costs. I am happy to return the item to you once I have recieved the refund.
If you do not offer a satisfactory response within three days from now - Thursday morning - I shall file a complaint with Ebay.
Regards,
Nathan.
Gorby, I'm in the same boat with Fagan Fab Finds... I know I'm gonna cop retalitory feedback, but I'm pissed off enough to wear. Plus I have been careful enough in doting my is and crossing my ts that I know the truth will be clear to anyone who cares.
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I wish I would have known you can have mine for ........................a fantastic finders & fossickers fee ;D
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What is it about ebay?? when ya buy something, pay for the item and have to wait for feedback from the seller. Once you've payed for the item you've honoured your part of the deal. Thats when the seller should leave feedback for ya, (not after the item arrives and you leave feedback for him). And after that they still get the chance to reply to the feedback you post. Its the sellers market out there on ebay because even if they didnt get the price they wanted, they just up it with handling costs. Lives a bitch, and then ya find evil-bay.
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Having a similar tussle with a Goose in the US. YZ250 '03 footpegs. US$22.51. Not bad you say. Until he wheels out the "standard" $40 shipping and handling charge. >:( Oh Well I say. Put it down to experience and make sure you ask how much it is next time. No problem.
He advertised Pay Pal Ok so I go to pay on Pay Pal and it tells me the seller is "currently unable to recieve payments". So I tells the bloke and his (only) response was Ok send money order. I say no way PayPal only and never hear anothe thing. Should I start a dispute ?
On second thoughts where does tahitian red live??. Maybe I could send him round to soften this guy up a bit :).
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yes do it today log a despute with paypal ,there is one way i had same problem with seller couldnt pay him his paypal said the same thing ,he thought that i didnt want to pay up i got him to send his paypal email address to me and then i went into paypal and entered his email and paid him ,havent got the bits yet but finggers crossed
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oh you only have 45 days protection ,so do it before this time
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the only problem i have with ebay is a certain user constanly outbid me not pointing any fingers (spacmazdaspac) nathan :D
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News to me!?
I think the only time I've outbid someone recently was on the 125F - and they obviously weren't too serious 'cause their max bid was the starting bid.
Another forum member said to me that he won't bid against other people he knows (and that they should return the favour). The unwritten code is that who-ever bids first gets free run at it, and only has to beat the nuffies (and unknown enthusiasts, I guess). Saves pushing the prices up (and possibly causing agro) for no reason.
I've tried to do the same - so if I've failed, I apologise!
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Nathan unfortunatly I find giving no feedback is better than having neg thrown back at me. There are stories like this everywhere and I too have been delt a few rip-offs. It's strange but the 2 people mentioned on this site in recent times I have dealt with personally and they have both been more than fair. One was ephantcc (Steve) and the other is Dirt Squirters (Richard) I've been out riding with Richard as well as buying parts/bikes and I've also dealt a few times with ephantcc and both are regular everyday blokes whom went above and beyond the original deal offered (all in my favor!!). Different strokes for different folks. I wouldn't bag too many people publically unless it's a huge deal gone bad as it's surprising who knows who in the local bike scene ;) write off the loss as a bad experience yes but be carefull with your comments if you feel the need to go public. Surprise surprise but I don't bid against people I know either unless I have made prior contact and confirmed it won't cause any undue stress or friction.
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i got jammed by 2 differant sellers overseas after 50 emails covering everything they said before i bid, after 4 weeks we were getting nowhere ( avoid the peanut call supermex ?) in the end i said jam it and logged with paypal - he refunded in full withing 4 hours.
second peanut sold me a dud multi meter, turned up not working, dealer pissed me about for 2 weeks in the end loged with paypal on the $14, got a full refund next morning :O)
last time i got bad feedback only 2 in 350 trans, i left not only shit feedback on this prick but responded to the feedback he left me, if you get shit feedback makeshure you respond to it by going into the feedback area as you can leave feedback on there feedback - give you a chance to bag em once more or explain to other why they gave you shit feedback. if i read the reason there im likely to reread both parties feedback to see who is the dud. WHATEVER YOU DO LEAVE SHIT FEEDBACK other wise the rest of us get riped too, i hate people who get worried about bad feedback if the seller is a shitter, peple need to start posting it other wise it makes the whole feedback system a JOKE.
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I am not real impressed with the new e-bay system of not disclosing the bidders user name on purchases over $500.
I could tell if the seller constantly sold to one particular buyer (stooge mate?)
and also if someone else i know was bidding (probably why they changed it)
but then again I've never purchased any $500 items
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i thought i didnt show it any more at the front page ? if you click on the number of bids i usually show you the bidder names, but more im portantly if they have 2 bids and the same bidder you know they have closed it out with a higher second bid after they thought they really needed to put in a great bid to cover there shitty first one :O)
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Doc, here's a quick rundown on my dealing with ephantcc.
Bought a DT175A swing arm for $9.99.
Got slugged with $20 for postage.
Sent him an email politely making it clear that I knew that $20 is a rip off.
Nothing for ~2 weeks.
Sent anothe email saying "Did you get my first email?"
Got a reply (and I quote in full): "$20".
Yeah, OK buddy, serves me right for not checking postage costs first.
Go and do the checkout thing and on top of the rip off postage there's an extra handling charge of $2 (WTF!?).
Coughed up the dough, but was pissed off.
Item turns up, with $11.15 postage...
Now, charging a handling fee when you've almost doubled the postage cost is just not cricket in my books. Because I'd studied his form, I asked for a refund (and explained why) before handing out the neg feedback.
To my surprise, he offers me a $5 refund!
Sweet - thanks - you're only half the wanker I'd thought you were. Maybe this will have a happy ending after all.
Send him my account details.
Nothing.
We're now another two weeks down the track and I've still heard nothing.
Sent another email earlier this arvo - I'll keep you posted.
I know I'm not the only forum member to have had hassles with him.
Check his ebay feedback like my other idiot, he keeps his own feedback rating looking good effectively by bullying people with retalitory feedback when they (at least sometimes) fairly hand out neg feedback. Sure you have to deal with plenty of idiots as an Ebay seller, but treating everyone like shit is not a good way to do business in my books... And as a business, he has to understand that customer dissatisfaction will sometimes result in public posts like this one... :)
As you say, it's a small world - and it works both ways. ;)
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Nathan I reckon buying on ebay is like playing poker. Sometimes you win sometimes you lose. If you expect to win all the time then you're being very silly and will most surely get pissed when someone burns you be it an honest mistake or not. All this bullshit for $5 or $10. You said you'd had a good run basically and I'll bet some of the deals you got were absolute bargains. Did you feel like telling the sellers that the bargain item you just won is worth so much more and you will send him more cash? If you wish to avoid these situations on postage email the seller before auction end and confirm the postage. If you're not happy don't bid. As for the item not being what it states well that happens too unfortunately. Maybe the item 'did' work before it was packed. It can happen. People get burned left right and center on ebay for many reasons but ultimately you are buying items sight unseen and commonsense says this is crazy.
Freaky, unless the item is a biggy and the payment was of a corrosponding size then "if you're a seller also" the negative feedback will hurt your rep no matter what. I don't sit and go back through everyones history, I have a quick look at the stats and if there looks like theres been trouble before then I'll steer clear no matter who is at fault. I've bought/sold over 500 (300 different sellers and buyers) items on ebay with 1 negative and that negative was simply because I didn't read the description fully and didn't double check with the seller first. My mistake! I regret leaving that feedback in hindsight but I got the shits too till I cooled off and looked at things with a little more perspective. I don't like handing over money for an item that isn't what it's stated to be either but I accept it is an online auction with no guarantee's..it's the luck of the draw I'm afraid. As they say, if you don't want to get burned then stay out of the kitchen ;)
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I think eBay's a wonderful application of the internet, and it makes it possible to buy things from all over the world that you may never had the opportunity to even see, let alone own.
I also have had over 600 transactions privately, including some pretty high value ones internationally. I have had a few transactions where I have been a little dissatisfied arising from poor and/or deceptive descriptions of the item, but by far the greatest majority of eBay sellers are normal honest people like you an me ;)
The key is to take the time to fully evaluate whatever it is you are buying, BEFORE bidding. Check the sellers feedback, analyse the description fully, check out the photos (and request more if they don't give you what you want to see), make sure you fully understand the possible freight charge (again ask for a quote if not specified in the listing). Generally, you should steer clear of inexperienced sellers, i.e. those with <5 feedback ratings - they can be very unaware of what they are doing on eBay and there's a large risk of misunderstandings. If an inexperienced seller has something listed that you absolutely have to win, then contact the seller and work through your expectations with him via email/message prior to the auction ending. Usually, they will appreciate the assistance. :) I have bought items interstate worth >$1000 from sellers with 0 feedback, but only after I had been in touch and had a chance to assess their bona fides.
In Mid-Ohio, I took delivery of one of my recent eBay purchases, a KX250A5, which I bought for US$2600. This might seem risky, but the bike is in unreal original condition and I had a few offers while it was sitting in the swapmeet area for as much as US$5000. I could have sold it multiple times.... :o (but of course I didn't want to sell it). So I am a particularly happy eBay customer in relation to that purchase!
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Nathan I reckon buying on ebay is like playing poker. Sometimes you win sometimes you lose. If you expect to win all the time then you're being very silly and will most surely get pissed when someone burns you be it an honest mistake or not. All this bullshit for $5 or $10. You said you'd had a good run basically and I'll bet some of the deals you got were absolute bargains. Did you feel like telling the sellers that the bargain item you just won is worth so much more and you will send him more cash? If you wish to avoid these situations on postage email the seller before auction end and confirm the postage. If you're not happy don't bid. As for the item not being what it states well that happens too unfortunately. Maybe the item 'did' work before it was packed. It can happen. People get burned left right and center on ebay for many reasons but ultimately you are buying items sight unseen and commonsense says this is crazy.
Quoted for truth.
But as a buyer, leaving feedback is my right.
I'm not sending him letter bombs, or threatening to come over and beat him up or anything - I'm honestly rating my Ebay experience with the seller, and so far, it's been negative. *shrugs*
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And there you go.... $5 appeared in my account today!
So while I'm disappointed that I had to hassle, alls well that ends well, I guess.
:)
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your all right the oppertunity toi find all the shit we need for xcellant prices is only ruined by a few peanuts. overal you have to smile at the kewl stuff you get to find. and spew at teh stuff you had to pay full tote odds for at you local bike shop a few years back when you had to litterly beg them to sell it to you. its swings and round abouts, just need to limit the loses hey :) keep swinging lads keep swinging !
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I basically agree with the comments - take the good with the bad and be aware that sometimes there will be a bad. Unfortunately mine was a local Australian who tried to rip me off for postage ($15 to US $60 Melb to Perth). When questioned he relisted and resold the items, left me negative feedback and raised disputes with ebay against me all the while still having my $114. He sent obnoxious and rather unpleasant emails as well. Ebay support was non existent and paypal said they couldn't help either as the time had elapsed. Dont worry in this small community he will be remembered - I dont bag him in public but certainly let people know if they ask? One day I will run into him and will be able to discuss the issue face to face.
regards
Rossco
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You should tell everyone his eBay ID publically :( You don't have to name him of course ;)
As you say the eBay support structure is toothless. Irresponsible sellers should be exposed so that they can't do it to others in my view. >:(
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we should have an forum post regarding "seller ID to check closer"
Can we start one ? we dont had to say what happend just the ID and who posted it , that way we can do our own feedback by PM the person that posted it. and if its a forum buddy maybe we can work it out better.
Forwarned is fortold, i have been pinned a few Bad email from good old bill the bike seller, only cause i bought a better bike elswhere, he got the shit up and started bagging me in emails, problem as he has enemy and freinds here so i would bother posting that local bitchin,
but i think Ebay id's to make your own mind up on would be good for us all and also give us a second chance in not getting stung or better still, stop some of these poor sellers ripping us all off one aftet the other, no bids = no sales and sooner or latter they hopefully get the message.
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Can anyone help with details of a recent post about a guy in USA that will take USA only deliveries and send them on to us OZVMXer's. Got a feeling that it was lost in the old database. Urgent, next few hours pls.
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can nobody assist with my question??
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maico buddy ?
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from the ozvmx.com homepage ;)
Need help with shipping from the US?
We received this email from Buddy Johnson in the US, offering to help with shipping. I don't know the guy and cannot vouch for his integrity, but pass on his offer here for anyone who might be interested.
"I wanted to post on your site a service of shipping eBay items from the USA to Australia..I've done this service for a couple of guys in Australia over the last year (one being Peter Worrall @ Husky Parts AU) who wanted to bid on items on eBay in the USA, but the sellers stated won't ship out of the country..so they have won the item/s and then had the item/s shipped to me..I then do the customs forms and repackage if necessary then post to Australia for them for a small fee & the shipping..if this is a service that I can do for you guys down under let me know..Thanks, Buddy "maicobuddy" Johnson"
Email Buddy at [email protected]
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yep thats it, what Doc said but clearer than me :-*
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thanks doc and special "u buetty" to Freakshows PM's
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nanananannnna batman -----( boom headshot )
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I doubt that anyone GAS, but here's an update:
I opened a dispute on Ebay.
Seller says "send it back and I'll refund".
I say "Fine, but what's your address to send it to?"
Wait for a week or so, no reply.
Send another email - "I need your address so I can send it back".
Finally get an address.
I send it off, registered post.
Seller collects it from the post office.
After a couple of days, I enquire about my refund.
Nothing.
This morning, I sent another email asking for my refund, with the promise that I'd escalate it within the Ebay system if I don't get my money soon.
I'm not holding my breath, but I'm not giving up either. I think I've worked out a non threatening, non-violent way of reclaiming my money if he doesn't come good - but I obviously am not going to talk about it until I've tried it.
In other news, I sold a car on Ebay.
Made a big deal about 'Payment with 7 days you f$%kers' and was generally a cranky old bastard in the ad.
The auction ended on Friday night when I was up at CRC, so I didn't send out the invoice until Monday.
So I said "7 days from now".
Nothing.
Sent the guy another email saying "what's happening? When are you going to pay me, and when are you going to pick it up?".
A couple of days later he replies with "Oh, what's your account details?" (they were in the invoice...).
So I send them to him.
Then last night, he replies with "OK, I'll transfer the money tonight".
So I sent him back an email saying that I expect him to send me a reference number for the direct deposit or I'd relist and leave neg feedback.
Where should I go from here? Give him another day or two or jump on him?
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Be patient and understanding with the bloke, just like I was with you with your drawn out eBay payment.
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Smooth, very smooth.
;D
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;D :o;CHORTLE!! ;D :o I wish I could make come-backs like that........
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I bought a new nos"yz465" main gearbox shaft on ebay , when i recieved it, its a yz 250H shaft. I am loathe to send it back to them (slicks) even thought they recon full refund including my postage, as i recon i could sell it on ebay for same if not more money than i paid for it $80 au?? do i trust them and send or resell? anyone want a new primary yz250 shaft? ;D
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yep i forget to pay people, then i leave the bank details at home, just means some time people get lost in transit, but if he is local ask him to come over and pay be quicker and easier than relisting it, but before you do lodge unpaid item dispute so he has to repond, and if he dont you can get a full refund on the sale price , list price, etc etc so your not out of pocket, do that first and you can see if his ears prick up. nothing ventured nothing gained !
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Personally I am pretty easy going with people. Takes a lot to get me jumping up and down. If they don't play ball well I don't get all flustered about it. Cursing or making threats simply gets everyones hackles up and makes the experience rather bitter on both sides. Patience is a virtue. Give it a couple more days and then simply relist it if the funds haven't shown. Lifes too short to get stressed by the eBay idiot factor ;)
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Hey TonyB,
What is the part number for that shaft ??. I will have a look at zedder, 'cause many of the parts of the 250 are the same as the 465 (there are heaps of examples).
Cheers ;)
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sshhhhhh
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250H = 4V3-17411-00
465H = 3R5-17411-00
Logically, when Yamaha decied that the 250G 6-speed wasn't strong enough, they would have fitted the 465G gearbox to the 250H... But this is Yamaha, so logic is often a foreign concept.
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Ok
Heres this weeks beauty .....won this Item on evilbay USA. Item cost $9-90 ( rm 125b cdi unit) $18-80usd postage arrived in the post no problems last week.
Today I get a bill for $47-30 Quarantine processing fee, :o
The lesson learnt here is to TELL THE SELLER NOT TO PUT USED MOTORCYLE PARTS on shipping docket.
And yes I paid the $47-30
Yep DOC we are dead for a long time and alive for a short time :)
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Agree with Nathan totally on logic being foriegn to Mr Yamaha. From what I can gather shafts both have 14 teeth (10 more than my wife :D :D :D). As you can probably read from the prefix the 465 shaft fits G and H. TonyB have you put the 250 shaft beside the old one and run some calipers over it ??
Sorry - that's the best I can offer. ::) As usual for the 250H that shaft fits one model only - there are heaps of parts that are unique to the 250H.
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mmmm you all got me wondering, the teeth number on the shaft are the same as 465 as well as the part of the shaft that goes into the clutch. The shaft on the laft side of the gear is the same length etc and splin size but ocerall diameter is quite a lot less than the 465 shaft. I believed it might be a 250G shaft as its part number is 3R4-17411 and the 465 H is 3R5-17411 which is only one number out. Does anyone know the difference between teh two shafts.?
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So dude are you saying you've got a 250G shaft not a 250H ?? The prefix numbers are 3R4 for 250G and 3r5 for 465G. 465H uses 465G shaft (hence the 3r5 number).
Sounds to me to mostly the same. Not sure which part is smaller overall diameter. How about some pictures of the side by side.
We porabably should be careful about hijacking this thread as well (although I think you are close to a solution)
Cheers
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Thanks whyzee, I can't take foto together as all the gears are on the 465 shaft, not going to remove all the circlips, but if you picture a 465 shaft its identical to that except for the left hand side , the side with the long splines to which the gears slide on. The shaft I got on ebay has a much smaller diameter in the long spline section. if someone can identify it i might be able to sell it or return with good info to ebay seller who is in USA.
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The bearing at the opposite end from the clutch is different between the 465G and 250G so I would assume that the outside diameter of the 2 shafts where the bearing runs is different.
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Anyway... Back to ebay hassles. Can anyone tell me the exact limit on leaving feedback. Someone earlier said it was 3 months. So is it 3 months or 90 days.
When would I need to post feedback if my purchase was 1 October at 19:00 hrs. Does daylight savings change anything.
Need to leave feedback for someone that sent me the wrong item. I sent that one back and the correct one never turned up. So now I have nothing to show for my money, plus I'm out the extra postage to end the other thing back >:( >:( >:(
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Give him the NEGATIVE feedback now, then go to his other item listings and send a message to everyone who is bidding on his stuff, telling them what a worthless thieving shit he is and to not send the prick any money. ;D
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Not a bad idea CG. I was a bit concerned about my own feedback. The little sh1t might just stuff up my 100%. That's why I was going to wait until the last minute to post NEGATIVE feedback. Luckily my investment was only about $40 but it's the principle of the thing. You just don't do that sh1t >:(.
Anyway I lodged a dispute as soon as he stopped answering my emails. He didn't respond within the 10 days, so I closed it off and apparently it goes off to ebay. They reckon they can't tell you what they are going to do to him, so I'm guessing it's not much.
I will definitely be letting the other bidders know ;).
Cheers
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I'm with Cyclegod on his suggestion.
Unless we are talking big ticket items the bidders are always shown (the big ticket stuff with concealed bidders is a croc of shit - just another ebay contrived scam). Contact all the bidders simply using a cut and paste of what you what to say which really doesn't take too long.
When Mr Seller doesn't get the high bids anymore for his shit that does the trick for me.
One for Nathan and others, and it's only advice, not criticism. Treat others as you like to be treated and remember that unless you are the owner of Kmart or some such enterprise then you are just one of millions of people world wide enjoying the buying and selling which evil bay offers we mere mortals. Some mortals are super efficient and honest while others are total slackers.
After years of buying and selling on ebay I have picked up all sorts of good stuff, often at very good prices. I have made some good friends on ebay and have been TOTALLY scammed by one individual who was just an out and out thief who with any luck has just been diagnosed with advanced penile cancer with the only cure being amputation !!! Thurlow Paul Schmieding of 28 Lee Circuit, Concord, North Carolina, you sir are a thief and a scumbag.
I never push either buyers or sellers as I realise people don't always put ebay first.
As to the postal issues, take charge of the situation. Let the seller know that you want the name of the carrier eg US Postal Service, the weight and dimensions of the parcel. With that info you can then access the relevant shipper and check their rates against what the seller has claimed and if you are convinced you are being fleeced inform the seller and provide relevant proof that he is overcharging and thereby resolve the issue BEFORE you pay.
Another tip is to ALWAYS insure the item and get a scan of the documents if possible or at the very least get the numbers of the 'policy' for additional proof.
On a positive if you have had a good deal the least you can do is use the feedback facility to let the world know that for your deal a least the person did the right thing - it's not hard stuff to do.
Thats my two bobs worth.
See you at the back of the pack in '08 ;)
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Dispute raised and closed due to no response from seller. Negative feedback left. He doesn't have any items for sale at the moment, but I'll be keeping an eye on him ;)
I don't think there is any more than that I can do except hope that he doesn't leave me negative feedback :-\
FYI - toolhaus.com is an excellent tool for checking people's feedback (but you probably already knew that)
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FWIW, both of mine worked out in the end.
The N64 one probably bears explaination:
I worked on the seller, just ground them down. Made sure my nose was squeaky clean - was unfailingly polite, but totally persistant.
Eventually, and somewhat unexpectedly, we got our money back.
I like to think that the seller realised that I wasn't going to go away, and that their easiest option was to send me my money back.
Is Muncher555 on here? I'm about to start hassling them for my crank seal...
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Nathan I and some friends have all had a few deals with Muncher 55 and have had received all items quickly in the post, in excellent order too. Really I do not think you have may been misled by this seller. Tim754
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uh huh, I believe I have dealt with Muncher 55 before also and don't remember a problem. I've been waiting on quite a few items of late and post both here and overseas seems awfully slow at the mo..over a week so far from Sydney to Bris ??? could be good ol' Aussie post not doing their thing
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Yeah, OK. My internet access has been pretty crappy lately (note lack of forum participation), so maybe there's a simple explaination.
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here's something to make ya feel better Nathan..this ring is part of a nos Wiseco piston kit for my TM75. As you can see it is in brand new condition..the piston while not as new looking as the ring does have some nasty pitting in the skirt and gudgeon orifice. I paid about $60 for this new kit. In hindsight it's worth about $2 and that's for the vintage sticker that came within. (it's probably 'ted too) I'm awaiting a reply but I don't expect any good will come of it. Not gonna give nasty feedback as then I'll wear it so it'll be no feedback..Sometimes ya win sometimes ya lose but I do understand how annoying it can be ;)
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click on pic for bigger image.
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Yeah Doc, eBay sometimes does suck, actually not eBay itself but some sellers suck. On the same day I bought two pairs of pretty rare NOS Circle Industries footpegs for my Hindall and Cheney restos. One pair cost $20 BUY IT NOW and $9.75 to ship and fpr the other I paid $9.95 (and here's the crunch) got hit $47 shipping and handling. I complained to the guy and he replied that that is what the USPS quoted him with a "small" handling fee added. He didn't respond to the point I made about the other guy charging $9.75.
The first set arrived arrived yesterday in a sensible sized box with $9.75 stamp on it. Good deal, no problem. The other set just arrived in a 35cmX29cm USPS box packed full of newspaper with the pegs taking up abour 5% of the space. The box had a $23 stamp on it which means he hit me $24 for handling and $13.25 more than the other bloke for a $9.95 pair of pegs! Like you Doc I won't neg him as I don't want my good feedback wrecked by one tosser. Instead I'll just put it down to a shit deal from a shit seller.
Avoid RETROCYCLEPARTS from Butler N.J. The other seller, Kevin from KM Cycles in Iowa is a good'un who I've used before and since with no problems.
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hmmm..well ya went one step further than me Firko..I wasn't going to drop names as I am still yet to hear back but this dealer is in Nth Carolina ;)..it maybe an oversight althought the piston was out of the box for the ebay picture. I always get a quote for post now as I too have been stung badly before with excessive postage and handling..shit..1 local guy even charged me $5 handling when I went and picked the part up personally..ass!!
late edit: Here's a goody..I just won an RM125B cdi unit and the guy wants $30US postage :D dipstick! I've paid him $9.95 and told him to send it to a friend in Connecticut..I've bid on more of this guys items finishing later in the week but if he thinks he's going to make a killing on multiple postage he thought wrong ;D I love it when a plan comes together..now I just have to win the other stuff :P
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FIRKO and DOC----getting wacked here in the states--like DOC i try to get a price on shipping before hand as i believe a lot of dealers jack up the price if you get it with a lucky bid (ie--like less than expected by them)---but i just had a classic on three sprockets for my TMs--(100/125s) ---told the dealer that i would chase them pricewise--if he would agree to parcel post as at this time of the year the dirt here is frozen and we are thinking ice racing !!!---he says no problem---i win them---he e-mails me and says that they will go as he planned and not what he told me as he had alredy boxed them---WTF--would only send them UPS PRIORITY--(our expensive way)---like FIRKO--i do not want to screw my feedback up--so i will let it ride---and in the last few months i have been getting shafted about 50% of the time---but sometimes it seems that it is the only source--an another is the guys selling last chance !!! parts---that are still dealer items for twice what the dealers charge---sent two of these guys e-mails telling them that this was kinda rotten--and in the states the dealer does not charge shipping--but as expected no reply--they start out the bidding at twice the dealer list--and run from there---i guess we are in this for the love of the bikes and some of these idiots are in it only for the $$$$$ and some have even taken to the tmsuzuki website to hawk there wares--anyway just blowing off steam---and will cool off this weekend if we get enough ice-!!!!--will send DOC some pics as soon as we get on the pond---and FIRKO--have you really be hanging around DR. MIKE MCCOOK--as he claims on his website ???---latter and cheers to all down under--buzzymx45
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yeah Buzzy, I don't mind someone making a little on the side (or a squillion if it truly is a rare item) but when you win something cheap and they try to screw some back with over inflated postage and handling then I get pissed for want of a better word.. 'tis the nature of the beast unfortunately but it seems this year it's really starting to get worrisome. I don't mind opportunists making $$$$ on an auction but blatant profiteering on shipping and other hidden charges I loathe. Buzzy you'll be pleased to know I got onto those RL forks and TM stuff in Martinez..just as well as they are moving again to Indiana just after xmas and really didn't want to cart them another 2500 miles ;D she'll ship them directly but this time with a street number ::)
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have mentioned it before but the postage was what stung me big from an aussie seller - quoted $60 Melb to Perth but only $15 Melb to the US - I complained so he kept my money - relsited the parts and sold them and then complained to Ebay that I hadn't paid. Ebay didn't help at all. I remember his name and one year when I get over to a CD XXXX then maybe I will run into him?
Rossco
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Buzzy....McCook, PJ Read and I have actually been spending some time in Hong Kong recently. Secret mens business of course.
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hey firko/others, reading your post on this thread from Dec 4th. Do you think we can have a club register of these guys that overcharge?
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have mentioned it before but the postage was what stung me big from an aussie seller - quoted $60 Melb to Perth but only $15 Melb to the US - I complained so he kept my money - relsited the parts and sold them and then complained to Ebay that I hadn't paid. Ebay didn't help at all. I remember his name and one year when I get over to a CD XXXX then maybe I will run into him?
Rossco
rego up a dodggee account and phase away on all his items with bids ! done that to some prick before. i buy a lot of stuff and only been finally screwed by one guy in perth where i was stupid in the start. Never been hit in US, you specify the postage otherwise you cancel the dealon ebay, or worse say you paid and havent posted the goods, ebay wont check and they cancel the deal under mutual benifit, you dont need the part that bad so kill the deal, if any one leave you bad feedback you know you can post up on you feedback under theres your explaination ( ie there a wanker) most people wont check you feedback other than your number but if the see a neg it will show your response.
No point in posting over chargers, but scammers and bad ID sellers should be posted in a sticky thread, with factual comment by poster only, so its equitable to both parties that explain your grevience, saying why the item or deal was bad.
You cant let scammers get away with it, dont pay for excessive handling, if you think youll be pulled off, use your 2nd account to do your buying, then blaze away ;D
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FIRKO--thanks--little off subject--DR M.MCCOOK was kinda quite when guestioned about a pic with some nice females in it--(HONG KONG)---looked like a BAR and --WELL HE JUST SAID IT WAS BUSINESS--THANKS !!!!---now back to my e-bay acct.-then off to work--and its starting to look like the money is getting tight here in the USA---just missed a puller by 50 cents-(usa)---latter and as you guys say--cheers--buzzymx45