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Marque Remarks => Spaniards (Bultaco, Ossa, Montesa etc) => Topic started by: Captain Bilko on February 16, 2011, 02:10:21 pm

Title: Cappra 414 VE
Post by: Captain Bilko on February 16, 2011, 02:10:21 pm: One for Jared. ;)

http://www.vintagemx.us/cgi-bin/largephoto.cgi?C=8KtMqNTf6yN9wUaN
Title: Re: Cappra 414 VE
Post by: Freakshow on February 16, 2011, 02:24:27 pm: NAh, they never sold the first time round............. save ya money
Title: Re: Cappra 414 VE
Post by: Captain Bilko on February 16, 2011, 03:59:03 pm: Yeah. Best spend your money fuggin' about with trail bikes tryin' to turn 'em into real motocrosser's..... ::)
Title: Re: Cappra 414 VE
Post by: Slakewell on February 16, 2011, 06:25:33 pm: As nice as these old girls are that's 4k USD ? Plus at least $1500 for delivery and that's before the 3k restore?
Title: Re: Cappra 414 VE
Post by: SPANISH ARMADA on February 16, 2011, 07:22:23 pm: $1500 some people wont pay $500 for aust delivery ;D
Title: Re: Cappra 414 VE
Post by: cappra on February 16, 2011, 07:28:47 pm: I know Randy pretty well. He usually pretty reasonable on his prices.
Just a tad over priced!
Title: Re: Cappra 414 VE
Post by: Captain Bilko on February 16, 2011, 09:02:50 pm: Quote from: Slakewell on February 16, 2011, 06:25:33 pm
As nice as these old girls are that's 4k USD ? Plus at least $1500 for delivery and that's before the 3k restore?

It's like anything that you want badly enough...... :P Less than 400 of these things built and that one's in pretty good knick.
When I was hunting for my first one I wouldv'e gladly snapped that one up. Now that I have three, the fires died a little..... :-X

* It says 250 on the sidecovers? ???
Title: Re: Cappra 414 VE
Post by: montman on February 17, 2011, 05:01:53 am: Looks like the pipe is off a VF/VG model and the silencer looks like a 250 and not a 414 one still nice and rare,most of this year (1979) bikes 250/414 were scraped when they became a good few years old because they were considered to be less attractive than the yellow tank models something to do with that supposedly ugly mustard/green tank there's even less 250VE models left, to me i think they look real mean wish it was in the UK.
Title: Re: Cappra 414 VE
Post by: mx250 on February 17, 2011, 07:38:46 am: Not the ugliest bike ever put to market but then not the prettiest either.

Rare, and worth having, but I think $3900 for a non-running but fairly compete and original 414 is 'over the market'. Let the market decide. ;) :)
Title: Re: Cappra 414 VE
Post by: Stan S on February 17, 2011, 09:05:27 am: When they were new I reckon I had the very first 414 VE that Lyall O'brien imported. I remember uncrating it and thinking:
"What were they thinking" when they designed the side covers, mudgaurds, muffler and tank colour. I had a 78 250 VB with a 360 head, barrel, pipe and carb fitted from new and that was a nice looking bike that went and handled very well.
Anyway after running the 414 in I found it to be an excellent bike apart from feeling it was shorter in the wheelbase as it tried to wheelie everywhere. I can't remember checking the difference but thats how it felt. We made sidecovers for the VB to comply with the rear mounted number plate law at the time so I had a set made in white for the 414. Trimmed up the rear gaurd length, fitted a stadium front gaurd and I think they suited the bike much better but it was hard to do anything about the tank colour.
This one for sale seems to be a bit on the high side for a bike that will need a fair bit of work, but who knows maybe the Ugly duckling has become a rare collector?
The pic below is my 414 VE.

Stan

(http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af39/gf079/Old%20pictures/Mynew414atHallsGap1979.jpg)
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Title: Re: Cappra 414 VE
Post by: Captain Bilko on February 17, 2011, 01:39:48 pm: Stan. You're right mate. I remember when I had that VE 414 of yours it just wanted to wheelie everywhere and yet my VF's (although grouse to ride), just didn't seem to loft the front as much.
Then when I had the two of them side-by-side on the trailer a coupla months ago the VE looked a good couple of inches shorter in the wheel base. That coupled with the 17" rim and tyre (yes they are a lot smaller still than an 18 " with tyre) and you've got a monster that just wants to dig trenches and mono everywhere...... :P

I just love the look of the VE and if I was only allowed to keep one Monty, it'd be the one. 8)

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1328.jpg)
"Go away before I smash ya face in...."
Title: Re: Cappra 414 VE
Post by: montman on February 19, 2011, 09:18:43 pm: Sold for £2750 GBP plus going over to France to collect wonder who's got it now?.
Title: Re: Cappra 414 VE
Post by: Captain Bilko on February 20, 2011, 07:43:44 am: I think Montman means the VF in Europe.
Title: Re: Cappra 414 VE
Post by: montman on February 20, 2011, 08:09:51 am: Yes sorry for any confusion it was the VF in France i was on about and not Ross's bike,price's on the monts are creeping up it's about time people realised how good they are would i sell mine no WAY just how would you replace them and what with(here comes the sarcastic comments).
Title: Re: Cappra 414 VE
Post by: Captain Bilko on February 20, 2011, 05:16:02 pm: I've been inspired by all this to race the VE this year. Small numberplate and all. ;)
Title: Re: Cappra 414 VE
Post by: montynut on February 20, 2011, 05:41:03 pm: I'm not sure you are small number plate worthy :D ;D make sure it has a little Montesa sticker in the corner otherwise all the performance benifit is lost :P ;D