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Clubroom => Vintage Track => Topic started by: Curly3 on January 20, 2011, 05:15:33 pm
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Bankstown Wiley Park are returning to Dirt Track this year and will be holding meetings at Nepean in conjunction with St George and Penrith clubs.
This is great news as they are one of the foundation clubs for the Nepean Raceway and were a major force during the golden years of Short Circuit.
My family has a strong history with the club and if I can ride during the year at club days as a member of BWP then I'll be re joining the club for sure.
Go the blue diamond.
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That's great news , Steve.
Old Mate, Ray Harris aka ' Wombat " who lives in Tuena , just south of us here , used to do the CoC and Starts for BWP at Nepean in the Seventies & Eighties and when I told him that the Club might be running at Nepean in October he was dead chuffed , so when it's on EA and I will travel down and bring Ray with us.
Told him about the 60th re-union and he said he has some stuff from the 50th , also some programmes from club days BITD.
Foss
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Thanks Al, they are on the lookout for memorabilia for the reunion so if there is a chance Ray or you could possibly scan them & get them to me I'll pass them on for sure.
The Captain is coming down for the reunion.
Cheers, Steve
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slides great to hear that bwp has a day booked, but in your reply you quote "meetings at nepean" only got my info of st george web. so is there another date? if so possibly another vintage track day? i garther that the day that is booked (oct) would be modern and vintage meeting.
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Hey Steve
If Classics do run at the BWP meeting , do ya wanna have a skid around on the Glen Gall XT ?? # 59 at Griffith
I'll bring it down for ya
Foss
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At this stage they're only hosting one meeting but it's a start.
This is only my speculation but as Penrith & St G host 3 meetings each in a 6 round club championship for a season, eventually it may become 3 clubs hosting 2 rounds each.
I seem to recall Firko mentioned, in a previous thread, that an old Sydney club had big plans for a return to Dirt Track, or something like that.
When I started looking for info and bike bits a couple of years ago, I was amazed how Short Circuit had withered away so much in 25 years.
If the return to the sport by a once dominant club helps raise its profile then lets go for it.
At least we're talking about it.
Hey Foss, I'm normally reluctant to ride someone elses bike, but if your game, I'm game.
P.S. I spoke to the BWP president today and he knows Wombat and already has a lot of that stuff.
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Steve
Er Indoors won't let me race anymore , so some-ones gotta ride it , Glenn Gall , from Bankstown , the original owner, passed away nearly 12 years ago now, I keep it going for young fellas to ride , in his memory.
The motor was freshened up 18 months ago , and has only seen two meetings since , one at Canberra and of course , Griffith.
I know how you feel about riding other peoples bikes but theres no strings attached , if something happens to it, dont worry , I'll just fix it and bring it out again when the opportunity arises
Foss
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If he was a Banky boy then it should happen, I can't recall his name but I was off the scene for nearly 28 years and well done for keeping his legacy going.
Thanks for calling me a young fella.
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Hey steve have you got any names of BWP riders from the 60s who might come out to Nepean? I can't think of names that I was on tracks with in those days [that are still around] but maybe you can remind me. Be good to see them especially any 'Super Seniors.'
Cheers pancho
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G'day Wally, at this stage I don't really know who is still around but over the next few weeks Ill keep you posted as to " Where are they now ". Billy is coming down and Eric Debo is also confirmed for the reunion so the word is filtering out for sure.
You should come along yourself Wally?
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How's Eric these days? have'nt seen him for a while, the late old Bobby Jones named him the 'laughing cavaleer.'
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Just a reminder that BWP will be hosting the Rd7 clubday at Nepean on the 30/10.
The word is out to try to get as many of the old heads out there as an informal reunion.
There is a chance brother Carl may ride my bike as I'll be pedaling the Glen Gall bike provided by Foss & EA.
The only peoblem I see with that is we'll be in the same class.
If anyone out there knows of someone who may have a connection with BWP please spread the word.
Cheers, Steve
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I will do my level best to be there! For all the above mentioned reasons, plus I want to ride with some of the old BWP mob.
I have a b/w pic somewhere of a BWP bloke sliding a BSA I think a 500 Goldie at Musswelbrook about '64. I wil find it and bring it out. The name Gaddes comes to mind.
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Noel Gaddes, Pancho.
I don't think there will be many of the old brigade riding but hopefully they'll turn up to watch.
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hearing thru the grapevine that bwp format maybe different to what the other clubs do.please do not try and reinvent the wheel on your return.KIS
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hearing thru the grapevine that bwp format maybe different to what the other clubs do.please do not try and reinvent the wheel on your return.KIS
The folks behind BWP's foraw into vintage dirt track have some good ideas that I reckon might inject a fresh new take on the tired old club day format. Penrith club were pioneers in vintage dirt track promotion way back in 1988 and have done a great job for 20 years but a tired committee has produce an apathetic take on the sport in recent years. BWP's Tony Garrard has taken control of the track preparation and I've not seen the track in such great condition in years. Once again, that's not a dig at Denis King and Bill Pengilly (and Lenny Anderson before them) who've been doing it for years, it's just new eyes seeing the task at hand and injecting new methods.
The new plans to run American style flat track classes on the Tony Garrard revamped 400m speedway track is a brilliant stroke. Initially there was no intention of including a vintage class but after some lobbying from involved folks a vintage class will be added...probably pre 80 or evo for starters but if enough bikes turn up, a pre '75 class isn't out of the picture. In the end it's a positive thing to have another club take up the vintage cause. Competition breeds improvement so it's sure to brighten up Penriths promotions as well.
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I'm not really in the know Micks, just enthusiastic to see the club returning to it's roots.
I can't see them making any dramatic changes to things because it is the final round in a 7 round series.
I should add to what Firko said about the push for a classic Flattrack/Shorttrack, as I understand it these events will be held in conjunction with the NSW Speedway Riders Assoc club days amd not another event in an already crammed list of events on a Dirt Track club day.
I think the Classic Flattrack idea is a ripper.
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Bump.
This Sunday gentleman.
It'd be great to see a good roll up for the last tri club round of the year.
Jim & I will be there for sure. ;D
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steve if piney an I don't go to Mr VMX at Barleigh I"ll come out.
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You just want that bloody 6 pack of poofter beer, actually it tasted okay after already consuming about 8.
Yeah get your arse's out there and don't forget a spare chain roller.
I'm going over to the dark side this Sunday and riding a TT. :o
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Dark side ?? Slides, you'll like the Gally TT, it's got some boondi, it's a clone of Jim's motor, it's nearly ready to rock and roll, picked up some fresh methanol today and a fresh plug, rear tyre's turned, fresh oil in, EA is home and she's lookin forward to Sunday, Wombat's coming down for a look , did post earlier today but it disappeared !!
Nepean Skids on Sundy, YEEE HAAA .
Foss
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Curly's a TT/XT guy, an in joke.
I am looking forward to seeing how the Gally goes.
Brother Carl still won't commit to riding my bike, probably worried little bro might kick his arse.
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more likey dosent want to run you off the track.get ian as well
i wont be there as i told you b4
jim
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GRRR! had my keyhole hernia job done yesterday and it takes me ten minutes to think about getting out of bed plus another 5 to do it.
So all you B..... I mean gentlemen have a good day out there!
cheers pancho.
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We're all loaded up, the Gally XT fired and ran 3rd kick, ready to rock and roll !!, be at Nepean about 8.30 am or so, sorry to hear you won't be there, Wal, was looking forward to having a yarn.
Slides , was that 20% Nitro you wanted ??.
Foss
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Ssh Al, now I'll look even more hopeless.
Glad they found the right hole Wally and all the best for a speedy recovery.
Given the sad news about Dennis I think we should give him a minute and 3 cheers at the riders briefing.
All loaded & ready to roll, still haven't heard from Carl but that's nothing out of the ordinary, he's likely to turn up with his kit anyway.
See you guy's out there.
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Just havin' a lend of ya , Slides, but I just MIGHT have some pop with me !!
Serious now. I'm with you about Dennis, least we could do eh !
Foss
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, ready to rock and roll !!,
All loaded & ready to roll,
Camera ;D could we have some shots of the pits,kits and all the good bits plz. 8)
cheers A
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Just for you Alison, I'll take my chatty old Kodak and try to catch the scene.
If brother Carl turns up I'll tell the local cameraman that turn one is the primary position.
BWP legend, Billy Mac still calls it, Carl's Corner.
Could be interesting, he hasn't ridden around that corner since 1974.
He only made it round about 50% of the time.
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Yep, Camera is charged and in the truck , Alison, normally at a meeting EA and I are as busy as a cat trying to bury a fish head on a tin roof, but this time just gunna watch me old mates bike go round, chill out with EA and the lads, can't wait !
EA won't let me put me leathers bag in , Bugger!
See yaz at the Skids
Foss
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With photos make sure to get plenty of blokes in the pits please! Us 'super seniors' have seen plenty of action shots but always enjoy seeing how much older everyone else looks!
{should have posted this yesty]
cheers pancho.
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I think Ray Curtis was the first BWP member to win an Australian title. Won a few State titles as well. Short circuit /Dirt Track
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It was either Ray or Eric Debenham.
After a bit of rain early on the weather cleared up and we managed to get through 3 complete rounds of racing.
My day started out really well then had an off and then struggled with cramping again, have to find a answere for that.
Great to see BWP back out there and the smooth running of proceedings was a combined effort between Penrith, St george and BWP, thanks to all the officials on the day.
A big thanks to Allan & Elaine Garvey for making the trip up with the Gall special, I really enjoyed riding it and even managed a win, in the mud, with a few tweaks I'm looking forward to riding it again at the Canberra title meeting next year.
I managed to get a few early pic's but forgot about the camera later on but I think Al got a couple.
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Ray and Eric have been mates since they were kids. I heard at the last BWP reunion that the MC on the night , when going through the names of some of the BWP luminaries , either forgot or didn't know that Ray was their first Aus title holder. Bit of a stuff up!
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Onya slides! sounds like a lot of fun was had.
My doc wouldn't let me have quinine tabs for the cramps 'cos they fight with the blood pressure tabs,I spoke to my chemist and he said 'drink two bottles of gaiter aid through the day'. It works wonders.
Many riders turn up? good getting through 3 rounds, must have all run pretty smooth. How many sliders?
cheers pancho.
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You're 100% correct Suzuki27, Ray in 1957 and Debo in 58.
Both rode my fathers bikes at various times and are both great characters.
It wasn't the best roll up yesterday Wally and only about 2 sliders, they both rode in with the other classes, Colin Laws had a good day with placings overall in several classes, he also proved that they can be ridden in with upright bikes and thanfully he managed to avoid my head when I went arse up right in front of him.
I drank 4 bottles of Powerade through the day, nervous tension and arthritis aren't helping things either.
I need to get in the Gym or ride more often, I hadn't ridden since the charity meeting.
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For anyone that hasn't been to our Nepean.
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The BWP pit shelter, erected around 1970 and the posts were fabricated at my fathers bikeshop.
I was at the working B when they put it up, thankfully they had it finished before they opened the Keg, or maybe that was before it ran out.
Shit my trailer looks tired.
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EA and I had a great day at Nepean , I got pretty wound up about it for a couple of days before. all was good when we got there, lots of friends , old and new and some bloody good racing.
Steve had a win first up on the Gally XT
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It was very pleasing for me to see Glenn's bike in the lead at a BWP event
Then, for the rest of the day, wheel-spin proved to be the limiting factor, with tyre temperature and pressure increasing markedly in the course of just one race.
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A couple of Blue Diamonds at the start of the over 35s
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Steve getting his third place award from BWP Club's Bob McGlinchey with Greg Heatly from the St. George Club in the background.
A terrific day, run under trying conditions, full marks to the organisers .
Only two sliders there and they ran with the other bikes, no problems.
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I fell in love with this Goldie parked at the Nepean Canteen
Foss
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Not to mention the first old banger home in the over 35's open, finished 5th out of 16.
Given the start line is set for 12 it was crowded.
It was a boyhood dream to wear that blue diamond, my family was heavily involved in the club as I was growing up and all I ever wanted to do was race motorbikes.
That beautiful Goldie belongs to 1965 250cc Australian Short Circuit Champion and BWP life member Bob ( Grumbles) Campbell.
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thanks for the photos ..fantastic lookin track and venue..yes nice Goldie 8)
cheers A