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Title: '84 KX500
Post by: JohnnyO on January 19, 2011, 10:06:41 pm
Here's another project i finally got around to finishing. I bought it on ebay a few of years ago with a blown engine.
It's fitted with an Ohlins shock, a cool GMC pipe(thanks Geoff) and Nightmare Racing plastics.
(http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc374/JohnnyO31/Vintagebikes024.jpg)
(http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc374/JohnnyO31/Vintagebikes038.jpg)
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: BAHNZY on January 19, 2011, 10:37:23 pm
Welcome to the club ;)
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: frostype400 on January 19, 2011, 10:40:20 pm
Very nice and good you have the matching race stand to display it on. :)
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: JohnnyO on January 19, 2011, 10:51:10 pm
Welcome to the club ;)
For a bike that was pretty scarce in it's day there seems to be a few in vintage circles.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: 090 on January 19, 2011, 10:55:11 pm
Maybe it's because the wreckers didn't want them as not many around, no call for parts? A blessing in disguise if that was the case.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: JohnnyO on January 19, 2011, 10:57:49 pm
Must have all been lying in sheds unwanted til the vintage scene arrived.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: Rossvickicampbell on January 20, 2011, 12:11:13 am
JohnnyO - we have similar tastes - nice bike - well done.  Won't see any of your bikes coming on the market will we?  Wink Wink nudge nudge!!
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: Captain Bilko on January 20, 2011, 06:42:22 am
That is nice. Two bikes in the one week? Is there anything else left?
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: paul on January 20, 2011, 07:58:11 am
they are great john ,you.ll be putting brad outa bissness
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: JohnnyO on January 20, 2011, 08:19:48 am
That is nice. Two bikes in the one week? Is there anything else left?
I've got a few more.. will try and get some photos up in the next week.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: JohnnyO on January 20, 2011, 08:25:08 am
JohnnyO - we have similar tastes - nice bike - well done.  Won't see any of your bikes coming on the market will we?  Wink Wink nudge nudge!!
Ross no plans to sell at the moment but you never know in the future. ;)
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: Stevo17 on January 20, 2011, 09:58:50 am
What do you reckon something like that would sell for?  I am nearly finished rebuilding my 84 also  :)
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: suzuki43 on January 20, 2011, 10:59:02 am
Great job John,very tasty indeed.
A mate of mine over here is three quarters through a resto on the same model KX500.
I will try and get a photo,he jagged all new plastic for it,but the rear guard cost him a motza.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: 211kawasaki on January 21, 2011, 04:36:03 pm
Very Cool John
nice resto as usual
211
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: firko on January 21, 2011, 04:56:27 pm
I agree with everyone else....Another nice resto. It's refreshing that you've resisted the temptation to bling her up John. It's lovely and clean. I had a KX420 and wish I'd have kept and restored it after seeing this gem.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: Rossvickicampbell on January 21, 2011, 05:43:21 pm
there is a nice 420 listed for what looks like a very good price in Victoria at the moment - Firko here's your chance?
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: firko on January 21, 2011, 05:50:30 pm
I've got no room Rossco.....I'm thinning the herd as well as finishing the projects I've got before I even think of buying another bike. I do like those Kwaka big bores though!
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: suzuki43 on January 21, 2011, 06:15:40 pm
Rossco,its time that you brought a 1984 500 son,I will sign off the request form for her indoors.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: JohnnyO on January 21, 2011, 10:49:46 pm
I agree with everyone else....Another nice resto. It's refreshing that you've resisted the temptation to bling her up John. It's lovely and clean. I had a KX420 and wish I'd have kept and restored it after seeing this gem.
Yes Firko i don't like them to look too much different from what was available in the day, i reckon they look better like that.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: JohnnyO on January 21, 2011, 10:53:49 pm
Great job John,very tasty indeed.
A mate of mine over here is three quarters through a resto on the same model KX500.
I will try and get a photo,he jagged all new plastic for it,but the rear guard cost him a motza.

See if you can get a photo Craig, i'm always interested to see how others come up.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: Rossvickicampbell on January 21, 2011, 11:05:49 pm
but Craigy - how are we gunna convine JO to sell it to me  ???
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: suzuki43 on January 22, 2011, 05:16:03 am
Will do John.
Roscco use your jedhi mind tricks....
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: Stevo17 on January 22, 2011, 11:27:41 am
Here is my 84 nearly completed.  All I need is a chain. This bike is unrestored apart from a NOS rear fender and new DEP silencer. It sat for many years with a broken engine case.

(http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss338/crynnthnight/DSC00900.jpg?t=1295655820)

(http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss338/crynnthnight/DSC00898.jpg?t=1295655992)
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: Captain Bilko on January 22, 2011, 11:30:50 am
Wow! :o
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: suzuki43 on January 22, 2011, 11:55:43 am
I second that wow!!! very nice Steve ;D
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: JohnnyO on January 22, 2011, 11:56:45 am
Looking good! that's in great condition for an unrestored bike. Do you plan on racing it?
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: Stevo17 on January 22, 2011, 11:59:36 am
Thanks guys, not sure if I will race it as I have a few other pre-85 bikes. My 84 KX250 is my usual race bike.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: Rossvickicampbell on January 22, 2011, 02:28:48 pm
it's at this point in time I would love a "drooling" smiley face icon?
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: crabman on January 22, 2011, 02:57:00 pm
Very nice.after looking for years for an air-cooled 500 I had all but given up. yesterday whilst not looking I found my long lost 500. certainly will be referencing your photos as I plan the restoration of it. your bike is inspirational. crab man in africa :)
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: BAHNZY on January 22, 2011, 11:49:21 pm
One year short of the 84.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-1/1293707/Bike_8.JPG)
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: holeshot buddy on January 25, 2011, 11:28:44 pm
looks good rod  8)

we should park all our 500s at cd8
and make our own stand ;D ;)


i will have to change my number to 31 too ::) :o ha
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: ted on January 26, 2011, 09:21:32 pm
Hey Holeshot ...Can i park mine there as well even though George reckons it is a piece of shit
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: holeshot buddy on January 26, 2011, 10:09:53 pm
yep all kx500s welcome ;)
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: ted on January 26, 2011, 10:37:32 pm
It`s a date then
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: GEORGE on January 27, 2011, 09:40:18 am
           

              Hey ted i didn't say your kx was shit i said it wasn't

              worth 9k i spent a good amount of time at cd7 going

              over your bike its nice but not worth 9k you even

              told me it owed you 5k and thats what its worth IMO


                        GEORGE
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: maicoman on January 27, 2011, 01:06:03 pm
           

              Hey ted i didn't say your kx was shit i said it wasn't

              worth 9k i spent a good amount of time at cd7 going

              over your bike its nice but not worth 9k you even

              told me it owed you 5k and thats what its worth IMO


                        GEORGE
I tend to agree with you there George a KX500 is never going to pull $9K no matter what is done to it. About $5K or $6K would be on the money. I've been down this road before and had a few arguments with people that seem to think you can't build this type of bike on a BUDGET. Six months ago 2 X 83KX 500's went through Ebay that were 99% restored and needed finishing touches for the $3K-4K mark.
  Sure if you are going to buy all Nos stuff hell it will cost you $$$$$. But to prove a point I was at Goulburn Swap Meet last week and I picked up basically a complete motor disassembled because of damaged gears, complete with pipe, kickstarter lever for $90. So the parts are out there and you can build one.

Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: GEORGE on January 27, 2011, 02:02:34 pm
    Thats right Brooksie you don't see too many vmx bikes fetch more then 5k unless it's a real low hour
     or a yz250a etc. I brought a 84 kx500 84 from ebay last year for $2800, an unfinished restro i've
     spent a further $1500 and i've got a good honest race bike that looks sweet. Teddy has a yz465
     for sale also seems he's a restorer that doesn't ride just in it to make a dollar and if thats his go
     good on him but he's still not going to get 9k for a bike he's built for 5k. He must count his labour
     into his cost @$100 a hour  :D
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: TM BILL on January 27, 2011, 03:53:12 pm
I suppose this is the downside of advertising somthing for sale on an open forum , people feel its their right to publicly express their opinions about the bike and the asking price.

Is the bike worth 9k only potential purchasers will know that when they decide to buy or not to buy.

I do beleive its bad form to critisize the bike and asking price on a forum , but then its also bad form to bar up when people hijack your for sale thread (its not like its a paid ad )

What the bike owes Ted is his buisness as is the asking price , We tend to comment generally on here about bike for sale on Ebay etc , difference being most of those bikes are sold anonomously where as on here sellers are forum members and contributors.

At the end of the day whats it matter , you can ask what you want for your bike sombody wants it enough they will pay , i remember when you could pick up YZ As and Bs for sweet FA now look at them , still the same bikes there just 20 yrs older  ;)


Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: Nathan S on January 27, 2011, 03:58:08 pm
What Bill said.

And FWIW, Ted does ride.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: ted on January 27, 2011, 04:51:57 pm
George i have never met you let alone had a conversation with you. I didn`t build this bike. However i own it now. As i said to Firko i wanted to sell a 500 to buy a trailer and a 250. So i guess i`ll be seeing you at HEAVEN`S first round at Buladelah on the 19 / 20 th March then

Restorer .... Hardly. If i was in it for the money George i would have been liquadated long ago.

TM BILL.....Criticize a bike price by all means,,,just don`t do it where the guy has placed his add...paid for or not.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: TM BILL on January 27, 2011, 05:37:46 pm


TM BILL.....Criticize a bike price by all means,,,just don`t do it where the guy has placed his add...paid for or not.


I think thats what i said  ??? but i also said dont throw your toys out the cot when people hijack your free ad talking about their bike for sale  ;)
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: YZ250H on January 27, 2011, 06:22:08 pm
I think maybe GEORGE is confused as that bike was for sale near our camp at CD8  ::).  I spoke to the guy myself and the sign on it said 8000.  I told that bloke if I had 8 grand on me I would have bought it on the spot - it is even better looking in real life.  It's all relative - you pay what you think it is worth .  What you are willing to pay is also possibly connected to how much money you have to play with - to some people 8 grand is peanuts ;).
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: TM BILL on January 27, 2011, 07:03:21 pm
Personally i think it is a bloody nice example  :) if money was no object i would already own it  ;D
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: Stevo17 on January 27, 2011, 07:34:16 pm
Yes it is a nice sled. I remember seeing it before it was restored and it was not so pretty. All of Watto's bikes are sweet things when he finishes them.  Pity its an 83  ;D
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: Marc.com on January 27, 2011, 07:42:37 pm
I agree with Bill I don't think it is fantastic form to preach on about what a bike is worth under the for sale ad, free or not. Especially if you have just cocked up your facts and got the wrong bike.  I would apologise if it was me.

As for VMX bikes being worth about 5 grand, I can think of a number of bikes that regularly fetch quite a bit more. Bikes that are mint, rare, highly desirable, tricked out, RHs, MC490s, Mugens, CCMs etc will always bring out someone with the cash.

If you really wanted to make money off VMX bikes I would say the best way is to snap up 'future classics' , maybe the KX500 is one of them.  ;)
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: YZ250H on January 27, 2011, 07:43:44 pm
Personally i think it is a bloody nice example  :) if money was no object i would already own it  ;D

Me too  ;)  Come on Lotto  ;D
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: ted on January 27, 2011, 10:15:08 pm
This is why i was hesitant to put a price to my 465. Gave my name and phone number if interested.

Putting a price to anything but a shitbox on this forum seems to bring out every wanna be expert who just happens to know someone that just bought the same thing  or better last week for half price or supposedly had something better back in the day. And if you`re really lucky your whole life will be assessed and you will be branded as a greedy restorer in it just for the money that doesn`t even ride. Watching too much of the mentalist methinks

Comments like " I had one of them once and it nearly killed me " or dribbling rants from George have a huge effect on a sale in my opinion.

I think if you are not entertaining buying a bike, keep any negative remarks away from the For Sale section where the bike is listed. Free or Not
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: Fabulous on January 28, 2011, 01:53:48 am
   +1
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: GEORGE on January 28, 2011, 09:46:12 am
   Ted don't be a fool it's a vmx forum. A place to

    express your opinion on all things regarding vintage

     motocross and IMO a nice 83 kx500 is worth no

     more than 5k. If it was mine i would ride it and

    in 2 years time it would still be worth 5k. I've never

    commented on this bike under the forsale ad and

     i've never cocked up the facts and got the wrong

     bike markfx so maybe you could apologise.  :D
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: maicoman on January 28, 2011, 10:48:09 am
+1 for me George. I think some of these guys are lacking some common sense. If you restore bikes for the love of motor cycles then the money issue doesn't come into it, but if you decide to sell the bike don't expect to get what you spent on it, whether it be a bike, car, whatever. It is quite easy to overcapitalise on something that is not worth as much as one thinks. My comments and Georges I'm sure are bassed on current market values.
  Look on Ebay or bikesales etc, most KX' YZ CR big bores are hovering are around the $5K and most people seem happy to pay that. If you're hoping to snag that one buyer with a high price then good luck to. MarcFX mentioned CCM, Mugen, just to name a few. Man you are talking about exotics, CCM's like most British bikes pull good coin as for Mugen's rare and are sought after. I would expect prices would be in $5K-$15K mark but it would be worth it. How much do you put on an Kawasaki SR or a Yamaha OW????
  If it was a European bike like a Maico or Husky sure expect big $$$$. Why because that's the kind of money they command.
  I've restored alot of bikes over the years and probably forgotten how much I've spent, but I sure as hell don't think about it when I ride and go "Oh no there's a rock or it might get dirty or I might dent my Nos pipe". I ride and restore because I love bikes. If I was doing it to make money then I'd probably be broke like I'm sure many others would be.
   At the end of the day Ted you are entitled to sell your bike where ever you like, but by the same token people are entitled to there opinions and this is a public forum. Perhaps if you take some notice of people's "so called rants" you might actually sell the bike. I wish you luck.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: Captain Bilko on January 28, 2011, 01:29:04 pm

There's always eBay. Mind you you'll probably shelling out a lot in fees when it's still there in 12 months time (but at least you can just post up the comments that you like).....
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: ted on January 28, 2011, 06:23:53 pm
OK lads you have your opinion i have mine...leave it at that

BTW George how about some pics of your rides. Will you be bringing them to Buladelah
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: ted on January 30, 2011, 09:29:53 pm
OK ...George , You normally reply after 1 day unless you are put on the spot.

Well fella, You claim to be a member of HEAVEN and what i am proposing is i will pre pay your entry fee for the first round at Buladelah

. All i need is your particuluars  sent to [email protected]

You will get to meet SUGAR and make friends with DAMO...sounds good to me

Cheers
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: ted on January 30, 2011, 09:40:39 pm
Hey Georgy... Bring your buddy Brooksie...I will pay for him too

The more the merrier
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: GMC on January 30, 2011, 10:53:06 pm
Neat looking KX Johnny, well done
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: maicoman on January 31, 2011, 12:29:02 pm
Hey Georgy... Bring your buddy Brooksie...I will pay for him too

The more the merrier

Sorry not my scene, my nose doesn't turn up at the end and I don't have any silverware in the house. ;)
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: holeshot buddy on January 31, 2011, 10:38:23 pm
nice pipe ;D ;D
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: Shaun G on February 01, 2011, 10:36:07 am

You will get to meet SUGAR and make friends with DAMO...sounds good to me

Cheers

Sorry snag boy. I wont be at Bula. I'm sorting my sock draw that weekend.
Cheers
Shaun
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: GEORGE on February 02, 2011, 01:19:36 pm

     the fat homo has a sock draw  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: ted on February 03, 2011, 08:25:00 pm
George......You in or out for Buladelah
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: Kane Mcguire on February 03, 2011, 10:19:11 pm
i cant believe that someone thinks they can make a comment stating what THEY think a bike is worth!   in our capitalist system an item is WORTH OR VALUED AT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT CHANGES HANDS AT THE TIME OF TRANSACTION. its bullshit saying that a bike is only worth 5 grand and thats the end of it. there are many many variables in how or why a product sells.  i get jack of people that carry on negatively at a high price on a bike.   
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: oldyzman on February 03, 2011, 11:39:17 pm
Yea you are correct, but if someone asks for opinions then i think its acceptable to give a band of what it may sell for currently. there was a rm125a recently asking if it was worth resto before selling.....
Brett
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: JohnnyO on February 04, 2011, 08:14:26 am
i get jack of people that carry on negatively at a high price on a bike.  
Is that because you're asking a high price for your bikes?
This  is a forum not the trading post and people are entitled to their opinion.
With the amount of good quality cheap bikes coming out of the US these days the times of 9 and 10 grand Jap bikes are gone unless it's a Mugen or RH Suzuki or similar.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: Stan S on February 04, 2011, 09:54:28 am
JohnnyO, about your new avitar, if you could make it move or jiggle around a bit my life would be complete ;D ;D ;D

Stan.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: GEORGE on February 04, 2011, 11:50:05 am
   A Mushman I said in my opinion it's worth 5k, it's a bloody forum where we comment on and discuss all things VMX. Get a grip you dopes.  ;D



                                       GEORGE  :D  :D  :D

   I'd pay MUCH more for JohnnyO's sweet 84 KX500, thats nice  :P
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: frostype400 on February 05, 2011, 11:09:52 am
Here is a challenge for you then buy your own project KX500 or YZ465 and try and build it for $5k see how you go. ;)
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: JohnnyO on February 05, 2011, 12:57:46 pm
Here is a challenge for you then buy your own project KX500 or YZ465 and try and build it for $5k see how you go. ;)
I did.. not a problem if you buy right and do the work yourself. The bike was $1500 with the Ohlins, i bought the parts and rebuilt the engine and bought the GMC pipe and a set of plastics from Nightmare racing. ;)
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: frostype400 on February 05, 2011, 02:04:36 pm
Well shouldn't be a problem then so no need for people to complian about prices of other bikes if you are prepared to do all the hard work yourself. ;)
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: ted on February 05, 2011, 04:23:50 pm
Thanks Frosty...But i`ll deal with the palookas

So Johnny O...You can turn this

(http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss270/ted84photos/Before1.jpg)

into this for $ 5K including purchase price ( which by the way was $ 500.00 ) So my maths says you have $ 4,500.00 to play with

(http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss270/ted84photos/BikeShow.jpg)

or this

(http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss270/ted84photos/yz125.jpg)

into this for $ 5K incl purchase price ( $ 950.00 ) You have $ 4,050.00 to invest

(http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss270/ted84photos/002.jpg)

Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: ted on February 05, 2011, 04:35:41 pm
Georgy boy...It`s quite obvious you are not coming to Buladelah...So why don`t you air your budget masterpieces at Firko`s charity auction in March at the Alroy Tavern

Mark loves nothing more than low cost, no bling racing bikes so i reckon you could even take home a trophy

And guess what George you may even help out someone less fortunate than yourself in the process.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: ted on February 05, 2011, 04:57:14 pm
This is a restored 1981 YZ 250 H from Vintage Iron in the states . USD $ 6,000.00 is the price. Ship it to Australia, change the tank stickers, seat cover , number plate backgrounds, fork gaitors, footpegs and fit a flat side carby and  then if it is perfectly sound engine and suspension wise how much do you think it would owe you.

I would not think you would get any change from 9K

http://www.vintageiron.com/images/IMG00007-20100718-1258.jpg
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: Slakewell on February 05, 2011, 04:58:05 pm
I think it really depends on your Trade (if your a Tradie) apart from the wheels and shock rebuild what are the big costs? Given that you buy repo plastic not NOS.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: Slakewell on February 05, 2011, 05:08:41 pm
(http://www.vintagemx.us/images/photos/15492205-244592-large.jpg)

Complete rebuild on engine which includes:
NOS cylinder ported by Bill Clem (Great Escape Cycles),
New top end: piston, rings, clips, needle bearing, head gasket,
New bottom end: All new bearings, seals, gaskets, clutch rods with cherry picked gears,
Good clutch basket and recently replaced the clutch plates and springs.

DG Gold Head
34mm Mikuni bored to 35mm with UFO slide modification
Aftermarket reeds and spacer
Custom repackable silencer
New UNI filter
’81 YZ 125 shock rebuilt by Sage Suspension
Forks rebuilt
’83 YZ dual cam front brake
2.15 rear gold Sun rim with heavy duty spokes
’81 YZ 125 front DID gold rim
Powder coated frame
Restored tank, side panels, front fender
New rear fender and front number plate
Replaced bearings in wheels, swingarm and steering head
New cables
New fork boots
Shorty levers
Whirlpool throttle
Aftermarket folding shift lever
Allen bolts throughout engine (my preference)
Tires have only a few races on them

The bike is $2,500 and I also have a boatload of spares (engines, frame, suspension, wheels, seats, plastic, electrics, etc. and misc. NOS parts) not included but I could be persuaded to part with these given the right price and shipping arrangements.

Given that the bike is in CA its about $1200 freight.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: Kane Mcguire on February 05, 2011, 05:10:04 pm
ted i agree with you that others should keep smartass remarks to themselves. and having an opinion on a forum doesnt preclude bad manners.nice 465 ted.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: Slakewell on February 05, 2011, 05:12:20 pm
(http://www.vintagemx.us/images/photos/15494009-172992-large.jpg)

 $2999 or bo

This is about $1500.00 frieght. Just needs a polish and some TLC
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: ted on February 05, 2011, 05:15:45 pm
To me that looks about as good as mine before resto
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: number8 on February 05, 2011, 05:46:02 pm
To me that looks about as good as mine before resto

Ted,

Did I see a thread that said you sold the 465?

#8
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: BAHNZY on February 05, 2011, 07:04:10 pm
I did.. not a problem if you buy right and do the work yourself. The bike was $1500 with the Ohlins, i bought the parts and rebuilt the engine and bought the GMC pipe and a set of plastics from Nightmare racing. ;)

John,
Is your 500 the one that was for sale in the North West area of Victoria about 18 months 2 years ago?
I remember one on e-bay around this area that had an Ohlins shock and the seller wasn't all that aware of the rear shock.

Rod
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: JohnnyO on February 05, 2011, 07:23:50 pm
I did.. not a problem if you buy right and do the work yourself. The bike was $1500 with the Ohlins, i bought the parts and rebuilt the engine and bought the GMC pipe and a set of plastics from Nightmare racing. ;)
John,
Is your 500 the one that was for sale in the North West area of Victoria about 18 months 2 years ago?
I remember one on e-bay around this area that had an Ohlins shock and the seller wasn't all that aware of the rear shock.

Rod
Yeah Rod it came from down that way somewhere and it had the ohlins which made up my mind to buy it.
It looked like a piece of shite, the motor was blown up and in pieces and the plastics were stuffed.

For Palooka Ted.. Yes it looked like your 465, maybe worse. It owes me less than $5000.. do i need to make you a list of expenses?
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: ted on February 05, 2011, 10:13:41 pm
Worse than the 465....Well you`re either a legend or a liar
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: ted on February 05, 2011, 10:19:57 pm
Enough of this shit....You guys win
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: JohnnyO on February 05, 2011, 10:21:27 pm
Worse than the 465....Well you`re either a legend or a liar
Ok i'm a legend..
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: Canam370 on February 05, 2011, 10:29:07 pm
I still don't see the boozies bouncing Johnny >:(  MX250's aren't either - what happened?
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: JohnnyO on February 05, 2011, 10:35:32 pm
I still don't see the boozies bouncing Johnny >:(  MX250's aren't either - what happened?
I've been trying but they won't move  :) :)
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: Canam370 on February 05, 2011, 10:41:17 pm
I can tell you for free that shaking the monitor doesn't do it.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: number8 on February 05, 2011, 10:51:44 pm
I still don't see the boozies bouncing Johnny >:(  MX250's aren't either - what happened?
I've been trying but they won't move  :) :)



Silicon they wont move ;D

#8
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: Stevo17 on February 11, 2011, 03:04:10 pm
Check this beauty

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320655606529
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: maicoman on February 11, 2011, 05:34:23 pm

Beautiful original example.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: maicoman on February 17, 2011, 09:27:48 pm
I was unable to find a pic of my KX500 but here are some pics of the parts I scored recently at Goulburn swap meet.
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm118/hotvette/103_0282.jpg)
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm118/hotvette/103_0280.jpg)
 I was able to find a few bits that mine was missing like the kick starter lever and gear lever. The pipe is in pretty good condition. Mine has had the backyard repair job.
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm118/hotvette/103_0283.jpg)
It has some minor cracks at the top but very usable.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: Stevo17 on February 18, 2011, 08:30:25 am
Looks like an 83 Brooksie ? Mikuni VM and 6 bolt inlet manifold.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: maicoman on February 18, 2011, 11:48:33 am
You are right Stevo the cases are marked KX500A1. Can't remember the number but it was an early one. Not a bad score for $90. I'm tracking down the rest of the bike at the moment.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: Stevo17 on February 18, 2011, 01:51:13 pm
Hey Brooksie, thats a good score for $90.  I have an 83 bottom end that I am going to offload shortly - no electrics or clutch tho.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: maicoman on February 18, 2011, 08:09:07 pm
Sounds good, let me know when you are I would be interested. Cheers.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: ted on February 18, 2011, 08:28:59 pm
I have a shitload of spares for a `83 A-1 if you are interested....shock and reservoir, swingarm, electrics,levers, cables, clutch basket, new plastics
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: paul on February 18, 2011, 09:22:26 pm
I have a shitload of spares for a `83 A-1 if you are interested....shock and reservoir, swingarm, electrics,levers, cables, clutch basket, new plastics
ted thats really good off you to offer those parts to the ********  who gave you the grief
about your kx 500  you have just gone up a notch in my book
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: ted on February 18, 2011, 11:51:50 pm
Oh well Paul..It`s like this. Old mate Brooksie has just spent $ 90.00 on some very pristine parts ( i am sure you would agree ) and i also have some pristine parts so i thought i would offer them to him.

I guess thats why my bikes all cost 5 figures to build
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: maicoman on February 19, 2011, 08:31:17 am
Hey Ted mighty fine of you and as I've pointed out many times on this forum and Paul knows what I'm talking about because he personally attacked me about it you don't need to spend 5 figure sums of money to get a nice bike. Paul your Maico is beautiful but how much of the rebuild did you do yourself???
  I am a mechanic by trade and also have had some engineering and painting experience so I do everything in my rebuilds. I wheel and deal to fund my bikes and with a family it's hard to find money to spend on all my toys, but some guys have the luxury to afford all the nice gear for their bikes. Well good for them! If you want to spent 5 figure sums of money on rebuilds that's fine but don't expect to get it back, otherwise pick the correct bike before you decide to do a resto.

Paul you have just gone down another notch in my book WANKER!
   
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: ted on February 19, 2011, 12:52:09 pm
I have a shitload of spares for a `83 A-1 if you are interested....shock and reservoir, swingarm, electrics,levers, cables, clutch basket, new plastics

SOLD

Brooksie... I didn`t expect to get my money back on any of the bikes i`ve restored. If i did i would have advertised my 465 for 20 K, my 125 for 15 K and the KX 11 K.

Thats fine if you wanna wheel and deal and use second hand parts to build your bikes because of financial constraints but don`t have a go at Paul or Myself because we choose to use new ( OME ) parts ( price them up one day and you will be horrified.. eg: genuine 125 H radiator hose $ 525.00 ) and build them better than they were when they came off the showroom floor.

I am getting a trailer built that is also 5 figures....Crazy...maybe, but do i give a toss...Hardly

Good luck with your resto, and if you need to see one in the flesh you can come look at mine...you don`t live far away

Regards

Ted Brack
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: zorroz on February 19, 2011, 02:17:43 pm
( price them up one day and you will be horrified.. eg: genuine 125 H radiator hose $ 525.00 ) and build them better than they were when they came off the showroom floor.Ted Brack


Not these hoses I hope?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Yamaha-YZ125H-NOS-WATER-HOSES-YZ125-4V2-1981-AHRMA-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem230e38a0b7QQitemZ150562447543QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: maicoman on February 19, 2011, 02:38:12 pm
I have a shitload of spares for a `83 A-1 if you are interested....shock and reservoir, swingarm, electrics,levers, cables, clutch basket, new plastics

SOLD

Brooksie... I didn`t expect to get my money back on any of the bikes i`ve restored. If i did i would have advertised my 465 for 20 K, my 125 for 15 K and the KX 11 K.

Thats fine if you wanna wheel and deal and use second hand parts to build your bikes because of financial constraints but don`t have a go at Paul or Myself because we choose to use new ( OME ) parts ( price them up one day and you will be horrified.. eg: genuine 125 H radiator hose $ 525.00 ) and build them better than they were when they came off the showroom floor.

I am getting a trailer built that is also 5 figures....Crazy...maybe, but do i give a toss...Hardly

Good luck with your resto, and if you need to see one in the flesh you can come look at mine...you don`t live far away

Regards

Ted Brack

Hey Ted i'm all for using Nos parts and I do quite regularly. I don't need to price anything I've seen what genuine stuff is like. I have been lucky enough to pick up alot of stuff for my IT's at very good prices. I have a life long friend that works for Yamaha so parts are easily attained. I'll have a go at Paul any bloody time I like! he has been on my case since I joined this forum. Why because he is a know it all when it comes to all things 2 wheels. He SHUNNED my ability to resto bikes in a previous post when I mentioned restoring my KX on a budget and started attacking me personally. WTF who is he!

    Do you guys not do you research! the parts are out there.... I've been going to swap meets since I was 5 years old with my old man and the amount of stuff I have found over the years is a joke. Here's an example. I was at Gosford swapmeet a few years back and saw a familiar Yammy wheel off an IT200. It has a brand new Nos rim, hub z-spokes the whole works. Asked the guy how much $20, didn't know what it was off.
Done deal. Now that part is going in my current rebuild/rider. So now I've just saved myself a few hundred bucks straight away in not having to get a wheel made up. So please go ahead and spent 20K or 15K on your resto Ted but I'll sleep easy at night knowing that my bike will look just as good even if it's not all Nos for 1/4 of the price and it gets used and is not some glorified trophy.

Thanks Brooksie
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: ted on February 19, 2011, 06:06:51 pm
Glorified Trophy huh....I recall " I would pay your entry fee to Heavens first round" ...WHICH YOU DECLINED ... I will ride the KX as i did on Retro`s last outiong

So tell me Einstein...Do you backyard restorers count your travel time ( going to swapmeets ) and labour into your final costings. I sure as hell do. So it`s a hobby then. That justifys you upping everybody else that does.

Listen fella...I do sleep very well....but then again i am not a mechanic with a family ( all grown up )  And i don`t want to buy into any arguments about mechanics and family please...this guy referred that i worry about what i spend and maybe i don`t get enough sleep..( come to Buladelah and listen to me snore...hehe )

And my KX is advertised for $ 9K...so a quarter of that is $ 2,250.00... Good Luck

Brooksie..I am trying to be nice...don`t be such a prick
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: mainline on February 19, 2011, 06:11:11 pm
( come to Buladelah and listen to me snore...hehe )


You won't have to go to Buladelah to hear him snore, anywhere within a 100k radius should be enough.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: ted on February 19, 2011, 06:48:16 pm
Forkin Chippies....Don`t you luv `em
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: ted on February 19, 2011, 07:19:21 pm
( price them up one day and you will be horrified.. eg: genuine 125 H radiator hose $ 525.00 ) and build them better than they were when they came off the showroom floor.Ted Brack


Not these hoses I hope?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Yamaha-YZ125H-NOS-WATER-HOSES-YZ125-4V2-1981-AHRMA-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem230e38a0b7QQitemZ150562447543QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

No not them...a couple of years ago i got On Two Wheels to price a hose up...NLA...but ( Yamaha Japan ) will make to order...$ 525.00
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: maicoman on February 19, 2011, 08:15:10 pm
Glorified Trophy huh....I recall " I would pay your entry fee to Heavens first round" ...WHICH YOU DECLINED ... I will ride the KX as i did on Retro`s last outiong

So tell me Einstein...Do you backyard restorers count your travel time ( going to swapmeets ) and labour into your final costings. I sure as hell do. So it`s a hobby then. That justifys you upping everybody else that does.

Listen fella...I do sleep very well....but then again i am not a mechanic with a family ( all grown up )  And i don`t want to buy into any arguments about mechanics and family please...this guy referred that i worry about what i spend and maybe i don`t get enough sleep..( come to Buladelah and listen to me snore...hehe )

And my KX is advertised for $ 9K...so a quarter of that is $ 2,250.00... Good Luck


Brooksie..I am trying to be nice...don`t be such a prick




Ted I was referring to the $20K YZ 465 not the KX. If they were worth that much then why don't they sell for that much. There is one for sale now in NZ, I think it's going for $12K and is a Nos bike (restoration apparently) but you know what the moment you ride it it's worth about half that, why because it is them classed as USED. So what good is it apart from a glorified trophy.

Secondly who in their right mind would spent $15K on a piss ant 125. A bike that was a nothing bike in its day and will never be worth $15K for aslong as my arse points to the ground. I have a KX125A6, it's 95% complete paid $60 for it bought a Nos seat $50, Nos head $69 and i could probably restore it for under $2K. Would I spend $15K on it no way why? because it's a 125, because they were a heap of shit. But I will restore it because it's rare.

   I enjoy my backyard restos just like most other decent Ozzie blokes just trying to make a living and you obviously have more money than me to burn, so I don't count the travel to swapmeets or labour as I've previously mentioned I do it because i love bikes. I spend most nights when everyone is asleep fixing mine or other peoples bikes. There a few guys that can vouch for that, (polishing RM plastics all night...Adam N).I like to work in a BUDGET so things don't blow out. I go to the swapmeets as a family day out with my dad who i don't see often to talk all kinds of shit and he gets to see his grandkids. If I find something then it's a bonus.
  I am not running a business, but it seems you are otherwise you wouldn't be so hung up on your prices. Yes I declined Bulledelah why because of the pompus arse's that attend events like this. I've been to Heaven events and the welcome I got was cold at best. People snobbed me off why because I didn't have a fancy bike or didn't have the BMW X5 with the enclosed trailer. I made up my mind there and then that I was not wanted.
   Ted I'm not a mechanic anymore just to clear that up. But if I'm a PRICK then glad to be of service ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: YZ250H on February 19, 2011, 10:13:21 pm
( come to Buladelah and listen to me snore...hehe )


You won't have to go to Buladelah to hear him snore, anywhere within a 100k radius should be enough.

Amen to that brother.  I thought I snored bad, but geeeez  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: mustanggrahame on February 19, 2011, 10:39:32 pm
The thing that really should be binding us together is the love and enthusiasm for a certain type or era of bike. This enthusiasm can be shown in lots of ways. We shouldn't be judging each other on levels of worthiness to be members of this group. If one person through time or ability constraints decides to buy a big dollar resto or pay for one to be done, this doesn't make them better or worse than someone who builds one out of bits and lots of mechanical know how. To keep these bikes going in a sympathetic environment should be our aim.
Just my opinion, Grahame.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: VMX247 on February 19, 2011, 10:46:52 pm
The thing that really should be binding us together is the love and enthusiasm for a certain type or era of bike. This enthusiasm can be shown in lots of ways. We shouldn't be judging each other on levels of worthiness to be members of this group. If one person through time or ability constraints decides to buy a big dollar resto or pay for one to be done, this doesn't make them better or worse than someone who builds one out of bits and lots of mechanical know how. To keep these bikes going in a sympathetic environment should be our aim.
Just my opinion, Grahame.

"Here here" ..well said Grahame,,now I'm off to the shed to polish our 15k 125  ;)  ;D
cheers A
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: matcho mick on February 20, 2011, 12:10:28 am
brooksie,the only reason you were snobbed at a heaven round is you didn't have a fugging beer in yer hand,you need to try again ::), :P
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: firko on February 20, 2011, 12:18:57 am
Quote
The thing that really should be binding us together is the love and enthusiasm for a certain type or era of bike. This enthusiasm can be shown in lots of ways. We shouldn't be judging each other on levels of worthiness to be members of this group. If one person through time or ability constraints decides to buy a big dollar resto or pay for one to be done, this doesn't make them better or worse than someone who builds one out of bits and lots of mechanical know how. To keep these bikes going in a sympathetic environment should be our aim.
Just my opinion, Grahame.
I couldn't have said it better.  ;)
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: ted on February 20, 2011, 01:49:31 pm
Brooksie ...If you wanna give Heaven another shot one time i will take you there. If anybody has a shot at you because of your bike or displays snobbish behaviour towards you not only will i give them a mouthfull but we will leave immediately. I don`t know who was responsible for your treatment but the 90% of members that i do know are nothing like that. I turn up with my bikes in the back of my work truck as do most others.The only reason i am buying an enclosed trailer is for security reasons.My wife wants to come to some meetings this year but will not camp at the track so the trailer will be more secure at motels.Anyway consider this

Cheers
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: ted on February 20, 2011, 01:52:38 pm
i may even learn where to shop for parts and save some coin...hehehe
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: maicoman on February 20, 2011, 01:55:44 pm
The thing that really should be binding us together is the love and enthusiasm for a certain type or era of bike. This enthusiasm can be shown in lots of ways. We shouldn't be judging each other on levels of worthiness to be members of this group. If one person through time or ability constraints decides to buy a big dollar resto or pay for one to be done, this doesn't make them better or worse than someone who builds one out of bits and lots of mechanical know how. To keep these bikes going in a sympathetic environment should be our aim.
Just my opinion, Grahame.

Well said Grahme, I think I've got my point of view out there and each to their own. Some may agree, some may not. So I'll go back to my budget rebuilds and press on and one day might even make it to a VMX event.

By the way scored some Factory Husky manuals at Sydney Super Swap Meet today $10 each.....Oh + petrol.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: maicoman on February 20, 2011, 01:59:30 pm
Might take you up on that Ted. My Husky would be an ideal mount and is one of my favourites to ride.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: ted on February 20, 2011, 02:12:42 pm
Oh + petrol....Thats funny

No prob...everyone likes Huskys
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: number8 on February 20, 2011, 04:06:11 pm
What a great outcome to an unnecessary pissin match


#8
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: ted on February 20, 2011, 05:43:48 pm
"Here here" ..well said Grahame,,now I'm off to the shed to polish our 15k 125     
cheers A


That would be a good idea....at least it would stop you from commenting on every subject on here for a while
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: VMX247 on February 20, 2011, 07:23:31 pm
"Here here" ..well said Grahame,,now I'm off to the shed to polish our 15k 125     
cheers A
That would be a good idea....at least it would stop you from commenting on every subject on here for a while

Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
cheers A
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: GEORGE on February 21, 2011, 09:44:30 am


 Got some KX parts forsale Teddy. Might be a way to move your
 
 500 on, to brake it up there is a call for parts. I maybe interested

 in the black rims.........for my modern bike. The motor would go

 good in a buggy & the anodized parts would be good christmas

 decorations. Try listing parts on ebay & good luck, I'll be watching.

              GEORGE
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: ted on February 21, 2011, 04:30:53 pm
Look whos back...old Georgey Boy

Thats real good advice George...i will take it on board , now run away you retard
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: GEORGE on February 22, 2011, 09:40:15 am


  15k for a Yamaha YZ125H  :D  :D  :D I had 1 of them new, cost me about 3k

  $525 for a radiator hose  :D you crack me up teddy bear  :D  :D  :D

  Me thinks you the retard  ;D

                            GEORGE
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: XR on February 22, 2011, 10:07:05 am
Ted, going on the way you work out the costing on your resto's would it be fair to say that if you drove five k's in traffic to get two litres of milk so you could have a coffee while you are working on your resto and the milk was $2.50 to buy and it took you 45 min's to get it would you work out that the milk cost you all up with fuel and labour around $67.50 ????  ??? 
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: maicoman on February 22, 2011, 02:08:22 pm
Ted, going on the way you work out the costing on your resto's would it be fair to say that if you drove five k's in traffic to get two litres of milk so you could have a coffee while you are working on your resto and the milk was $2.50 to buy and it took you 45 min's to get it would you work out that the milk cost you all up with fuel and labour around $67.50 ????  ??? 

Clever thinking there "XR" I like it.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: ted on February 22, 2011, 04:38:19 pm
This is getting too silly for words...They just keep coming out of the woodwork.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: Beefa on February 26, 2011, 07:17:14 pm


  15k for a Yamaha YZ125H  :D  :D  :D I had 1 of them new, cost me about 3k

  $525 for a radiator hose  :D you crack me up teddy bear  :D  :D  :D

  Me thinks you the retard  ;D

                            GEORGE

George, try around $1150-1200 new in 81 .. I had one.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: ted on February 26, 2011, 10:34:59 pm
True that Beefa...But o'l Georgy bought the FACTORY SPECIAL 1 off....Only one in existence

Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: kaw440 on February 27, 2011, 10:15:42 am
What a load of shit guys maybe we should organise a slappin match then you might be able to get on with things in peace or maybe not gettin boring this constant slaggin maybe you need to vent some energy on the bikes instead of the keyboard who give a what you spend or what you want for your bike or who had this or that if its to expensive dont buy it if you want to use second hand parts use them but for f*#k sake piss off the pissin match or finish it
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: Stevo17 on February 27, 2011, 11:20:26 am
Well said Kaw440.  Thanks again for that engine case. You can see the finished product a few pages back. I took it around Broadford last weekend for a few laps to run it in and get the jetting somewhere near right. What a magic bike it is to ride.
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: Sgt Hugo Stiglitz on March 01, 2011, 10:10:54 pm
Hey Ted,

I am batting for you at Dargle Retro MX ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Anyone that spends 15k on a YZ125 must be a cool dude.

I will be giving GEORGE a HUGO MAN HUG for sure.

Hugo xxx
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: TM BILL on May 06, 2011, 08:57:47 am
Heres a cheap project $AU 1850.00 seller will post to Australia but would prefer to get somone to check at this end first to save any missunderstandings  :)

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Classic-vintage/auction-373240682.htm

Its not mine  :)
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: ted on May 06, 2011, 01:32:56 pm
Cheap my arse   2.5K plus freight plus resto   what you reckon about 12 -15 K all up
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: Davey Crocket on May 06, 2011, 01:50:52 pm
Dont trust them dodgy buggars in Wanganui Ted.... ;D
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: ted on May 06, 2011, 02:39:18 pm
TM Bill knows his stuff but i think he`s been on the cans with this one
Title: Re: '84 KX500
Post by: Slakewell on May 06, 2011, 03:12:22 pm
Tis only Kiwi $passo's so it is cheap ;D