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Clubroom => VMX Sidecars => Topic started by: popeye on January 08, 2011, 10:21:51 am
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Started on the Eml yesterday, all shocks in to be rebuilt and gearbox at the engineers to be back cut, just need to get a new clutch sorted and fix fuel tank, hopefully we will have a better year than last, also waiting for finial results from tests from little get off 6 mths ago and all should be good. Some new sidecars are also being built by Hollaway engineering, and Fletcher enterprisers, so we should have a good year with some new people joining in the fun. :) :)
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Should have the big XR ready for you to try in a week or so. Alloy frame hopfully. Did they have alloy in 1984?-of course they did.
Checking with Switzerland as to the elegibility Waynes EML single shock, should fit in the pre'85 catagory as Jumbos were built in '84 for '85 races, might throw a cat in with the pidgeons though.
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that didn't take long did it?
This one is twin shock-on the front!.
Anyway, no will care-until it beats them :D :D
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So you agree that if I build a DR500 with an alloy sidecar like we had in '82 that will be period specific?
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Looks like its gonna start! ..... AGAIN!
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can i build the sidecar out of old thick metal steel i have some under a tree in the back yard that we put under a slab a few years back and what chair do i use????? can i cut a sofa in half. all advice would be helpful.
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(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz259/270YAM/51f4b3ea.jpg)
Pre '75 (I think) All alluminium Hagon Yamaha.
Were they any good? How much lighter were they?
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:o :o ...is that a British job,cause us Aussies are usually a bit more reserved in our bling ;D
She'd get looks for a pre75 Nats,though Hagon and Yammie have geen around for awhile.. :P
http://ozvmx.com/community/index.php?topic=648.msg5549#msg5549
Doing a Hagon Yamaha search and there is loads of info on this forum ;D
QUOTE: I had a ride on _______ a couple of weeks ago and it feels (and sounds) like you're riding a tin can. I reckon it'd take some getting used to.
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wouldnt aluminium be too harsh, ridgid an prone to cracking? I know its no longer favoured for bicycle frames for those reasons.
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I have a vague memory of Ton van Heuten winning on one though I don't think he won a WM on it, just some GPs or inters.
Robin Jones had one when he was in S.A. bt wasn't too impressed with it and I think Rocky from ASA has one. There was one at the Broadford Classic when we went in '09 but it wasn't ridden. As with most Hagons they aren't much lighter but they do look trick. The mag wheels were going to be the 'go' back then but didn't take off and I think they had some spectacular failures.
Would be nice to have in a collection but not sure about racing one.
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wouldnt aluminium be too harsh, ridgid an prone to cracking? I know its no longer favoured for bicycle frames for those reasons.
Leigh, the DR500 we raced was very strong-it was the sidecar only, not the bike frame, and even after we collected a tree and tore some welds halfway through, it still hung together and we finished the days racing.
It tore the steering stem clean off the frame at the head during the ACUSA park nationals in 1983 and we welded it back together overnight and raced the open class on the sunday. It was a really good thing with very little development, though Geoff Udy could ride a broomstick quicker than alot of the rest could drive their outfits.
If we had have stuck to the 500 fourstroke as the junior class the sidecars would have lasted alot longer before the twostrokes took over as they were very good fun to race and could knock off the bigger twins and multis on a good day.
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As I remember, The DR 500 you raced EML, was around 750cc like the one Max and I had. I have some good memories of great dices with that alloy framed DR. ;D
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As I remember, The DR 500 you raced EML, was around 750cc like the one Max and I had. I have some good memories of great dices with that alloy framed DR. ;D
Did i read that correctly, a DR500 bored/stroked to 750cc's???
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Don't quote me on the exact size but it was around about that.
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What u doing up at this hour Dave?
Probly same as me at work
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Oh hi Matt. Yep at work. One nite to go. Give us all an update on your rebuild. That EML will go like the clappers when it's finished. :o
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Gees, i would like to know more about how to make a DR500 with that much extra capacity and still be pretty reliable.
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Period unit? will it be wrapped in cotton wool?
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Oh hi Matt. Yep at work. One nite to go. Give us all an update on your rebuild. That EML will go like the clappers when it's finished. :o
Yea , I think that rebuild kit should work a treat . ;) A Kroeber ignition , good shocks and together with your talent , you should be knocking on the door with a reliable and good period looking unit . .
Ok so when should I expect to see the Kroeber and the shocks? :D
Sounds like a sponsorship offer to me? ;D
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Milk it Matt. ;D
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Walter im chasing a set of Primary gears that speed the gearbox up , would you have or do you no were l can get a set?
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I will give you a call. If l can find my phone its floating around here somewhere........ ;D
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I never remember Geoff saying the DR was anything special except for the exhaust-we cut the muffler off, so I don't know about a 750 anything. I'll have to ask when I see him next. I'm sure the extra ggs came from his right hand-and some of the lines he took.
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Popeye, Mikes XS had some fast primarys going cheap/fast from memory.
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EML. I was talking with Max when we were in Victoria during last years bike bonanza and he told me the story about our DR having the same internal parts as the one you raced. Geoff may or may not confirm the capacity. ;D
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why dont you call him if your so hungry for a sale?
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First practice at nudgee went well with 6 chairs turning up, a few hick ups with some bikes as per normal, but a good day was had by all l think and here's to a good year l hope. ;)
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fug it was hot all day.
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best roll-up for outfits for years, not so many sidecars but lots of interest in passengering and driving and even more new outfits being built than I thought including two absolute new boys/youngsters building a GR650 based on the roady frame-that will be interesting. Lots of folk coming along and having a go and some saying 'I'll go home and tell my boys about this' so that will bring even more young'uns.
Gazi suspension have offered to sponsor the spectacular (press release to come so you heard it here first) Greta News!!
Qld could well be more than 15 sidecars by then which may be an all time high.
Dont forget to mention to road going outfits that a rally is on to the same venue that week end.
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You got that right, hottest day for 12 mths and it had to wait till the bikes all come back out of the shed..........
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I know someone in SA with GR650 outfit. Quite reliable.
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Could youi put me in touch with them please [email protected]
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So far so good, we have had the bike out 3 times now and touch wood it has not missed a beat so far, a little bit of clutch slip and thats it, it makes it much more enjoyable when it keeps going, hope everyone has a good year.......... ;)
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Popeye, missed your message which i assume was directed to me. I will send you a PM.
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Got the holeshot at Echo Valley( 4 Qlders first into the first corner) then it signed off again. I thought for sure the flywheel had let go again-but later found it was the backing plate moving this time.
Never mind-we didn't loose the sheep station again.
Gave us plenty of time to get some ride time with others that needed drivers and passengers. I ended up riding with a new senoir rider named Lara Wedge and she put a few to the sword as we ended 2nd o/all for the weekend in class pre90.
The times are a changing boys!!!
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Yes it was a very deserved second much to our dissapointment.