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Marque Remarks => Spaniards (Bultaco, Ossa, Montesa etc) => Topic started by: mike1948 on November 28, 2010, 06:33:45 pm

Title: Metralla
Post by: mike1948 on November 28, 2010, 06:33:45 pm
Driving along Samford Rd yesterday, thought I heard a familiar drone from the old days.  Then a loud induction howl, and a bike shot past me, going faster than the skinny thing should.  It's been a long time since I've seen a Metralla.  They were great to ride, lacked the accelleration of the Jap twins, but had a faster top end.  And much less complicated.
Title: Re: Metralla
Post by: Mark Austin on November 28, 2010, 10:31:20 pm
Hi,

The Metrallas are great little bikes - a few of the Club Bultaco guys have them. I took mine for a short ride up to West Head last weekend and had a blast. I even met a Spanish / Australian bloke named Mario at Church Point who remembered seeing them race on the streets in Barcelona when he was a kid!

Here's a photo of a couple of them at one of the Bultaco rallies - mine is the one on the right.
(http://www.clubbultaco.com.au/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=121&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=70)

Here's a link to the Rally where there's a few of them:
http://www.clubbultaco.com.au/index.php?view=category&catid=16&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=70# (http://www.clubbultaco.com.au/index.php?view=category&catid=16&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=70#)

Cheers,
Mark
Title: Re: Metralla
Post by: hitatreeonce on November 29, 2010, 03:23:09 pm
I remember from my school days 2 of the teachers had them used to walk past them on my way to science almost every day!
Title: Re: Metralla
Post by: VMX247 on May 08, 2012, 06:31:51 pm
~ Bump ~ Metrallla.....a favourite   8)
Title: Re: Metralla
Post by: Tony T on May 08, 2012, 07:00:19 pm
A timely reminder.  ;D
My lawyer's got one of these in pieces in his shed and keeps saying that "one day" he wants my help to get it together.  8)

About $350.00 an hour should do...........  ;)
Title: Re: Metralla
Post by: Lozza on May 08, 2012, 10:47:06 pm
A timely reminder.  ;D
My lawyer's got one of these in pieces in his shed and keeps saying that "one day" he wants my help to get it together.  8)

About $350.00 an hour should do...........  ;)

Don't forget to photocopy the manual at $2 a sheet either ;) The Metrella is nice and love the TSS's.
Title: Re: Metralla
Post by: paco on May 09, 2012, 06:24:53 am
I have a metralla thats been sitting in the shed for a while.Mostly complete,except for exaust/wirring,possibly other small bits and peices.The motor is in one lump and has compresion and spark.I was thinking of moving it on in one peice or selling the bits separatley.It has cost me a fair bit of money over the years,so I wont be giving it away.p
Title: Re: Metralla
Post by: vmx42 on May 09, 2012, 07:31:59 am
Don't forget to photocopy the manual at $2 a sheet either...


Boy Lozza you must have a good Lawyer... the dodgy Sydney lawyers charge $50.00 per page to photocopy. Your guy is missing out on the 'cream'.  :D
Title: Re: Metralla
Post by: matcho mick on May 09, 2012, 10:58:12 am
metralla? ppfffttt,ossa wildfire  8), :P
Title: Re: Metralla
Post by: Lozza on May 09, 2012, 12:05:04 pm
Don't forget to photocopy the manual at $2 a sheet either...


Boy Lozza you must have a good Lawyer... the dodgy Sydney lawyers charge $50.00 per page to photocopy. Your guy is missing out on the 'cream'.  :D

Geez Jeff showing just how long it's been since I needed a dodgy lawyers services ;D
Title: Re: Metralla
Post by: Montynut on May 09, 2012, 03:06:09 pm
Googled Ossa Wildfire and got several image hits. I like these the best

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?hl=en&sa=X&biw=1579&bih=885&tbm=isch&prmd=imvnsb&tbnid=Ki1pcpggIMT6uM:&imgrefurl=http://www.bikeexif.com/ossa-motorcycle&docid=A92R02EIt09FSM&imgurl=http://www.bikeexif.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/ossa-motorcycle.jpg&w=625&h=469&ei=OPqpT9GTKuySiQeM-MHDDg&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=656&sig=112116043955102926770&page=1&tbnh=170&tbnw=226&start=0&ndsp=26&ved=1t:429,r:14,s:0,i:102&tx=92&ty=109

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?hl=en&sa=X&biw=1579&bih=885&tbm=isch&prmd=imvnsb&tbnid=i07TZs58flLpBM:&imgrefurl=http://beachbeautypics.blogspot.com/2011_07_01_archive.html&docid=XaTOREln-fUicM&imgurl=http://i2.listal.com/image/1976322/600full-carla-ossa.jpg&w=600&h=838&ei=OPqpT9GTKuySiQeM-MHDDg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=623&vpy=129&dur=2796&hovh=265&hovw=190&tx=161&ty=224&sig=112116043955102926770&page=2&tbnh=160&tbnw=112&start=26&ndsp=35&ved=1t:429,r:30,s:26,i:194

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?hl=en&sa=X&biw=1579&bih=885&tbm=isch&prmd=imvnsb&tbnid=RWobGOnsM7uFJM:&imgrefurl=http://www.seitz.us/rec/hollerich_museum.html&docid=ToaupC6l04AcBM&imgurl=http://www.seitz.us/rec/ossa_hoellerinth_museum_wildfire.jpg&w=400&h=300&ei=OPqpT9GTKuySiQeM-MHDDg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=938&vpy=510&dur=764&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=162&ty=108&sig=112116043955102926770&page=1&tbnh=170&tbnw=226&start=0&ndsp=26&ved=1t:429,r:17,s:0,i:108

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Metralla
Post by: Simo63 on May 09, 2012, 03:44:13 pm
Googled Ossa Wildfire and got several image hits. I like these the best

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?hl=en&sa=X&biw=1579&bih=885&tbm=isch&prmd=imvnsb&tbnid=Ki1pcpggIMT6uM:&imgrefurl=http://www.bikeexif.com/ossa-motorcycle&docid=A92R02EIt09FSM&imgurl=http://www.bikeexif.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/ossa-motorcycle.jpg&w=625&h=469&ei=OPqpT9GTKuySiQeM-MHDDg&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=656&sig=112116043955102926770&page=1&tbnh=170&tbnw=226&start=0&ndsp=26&ved=1t:429,r:14,s:0,i:102&tx=92&ty=109

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?hl=en&sa=X&biw=1579&bih=885&tbm=isch&prmd=imvnsb&tbnid=i07TZs58flLpBM:&imgrefurl=http://beachbeautypics.blogspot.com/2011_07_01_archive.html&docid=XaTOREln-fUicM&imgurl=http://i2.listal.com/image/1976322/600full-carla-ossa.jpg&w=600&h=838&ei=OPqpT9GTKuySiQeM-MHDDg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=623&vpy=129&dur=2796&hovh=265&hovw=190&tx=161&ty=224&sig=112116043955102926770&page=2&tbnh=160&tbnw=112&start=26&ndsp=35&ved=1t:429,r:30,s:26,i:194

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?hl=en&sa=X&biw=1579&bih=885&tbm=isch&prmd=imvnsb&tbnid=RWobGOnsM7uFJM:&imgrefurl=http://www.seitz.us/rec/hollerich_museum.html&docid=ToaupC6l04AcBM&imgurl=http://www.seitz.us/rec/ossa_hoellerinth_museum_wildfire.jpg&w=400&h=300&ei=OPqpT9GTKuySiQeM-MHDDg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=938&vpy=510&dur=764&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=162&ty=108&sig=112116043955102926770&page=1&tbnh=170&tbnw=226&start=0&ndsp=26&ved=1t:429,r:17,s:0,i:108

 ;D ;D

I'd ride all of those, particularly the 2nd one ... That a nice chassis right there  ;D
Title: Re: Metralla
Post by: Lozza on May 09, 2012, 04:23:55 pm
Agreed, first one is Santi Herrero's works monocoque not sure if there was any other disc valve Ossa?
Title: Re: Metralla
Post by: cyclegod on May 09, 2012, 04:25:18 pm
Agreed, first one is Santi Herrero's works monocoque not sure if there was any other disc valve Ossa?

They were experimenting with a water cooled version when he died.
Title: Re: Metralla
Post by: Montynut on May 09, 2012, 06:56:27 pm
That GP OSSA had a 44mm carbie on a 70ishmm bore and they wanted a 50mm but could not get one :o. a powerband the width of a bee dick springs to mind ::)
Title: Re: Metralla
Post by: Slakewell on May 09, 2012, 09:22:53 pm
(http://i2.listal.com/image/1925127/600full-jessica-alba.jpg)
Title: Re: Metralla
Post by: Slakewell on May 09, 2012, 09:24:44 pm
opps wrong one , no one needs to see Jess with her cossy up her butt

(http://www.bikeexif.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/ossa-motorcycle.jpg)

Interesting bike shame they didnt know they needed the rider about 12 ich further forward
Title: Re: Metralla
Post by: EML on May 09, 2012, 09:32:45 pm
Nothing wrong with that "cossie up the butt" shot......
I used to ride to work with Bob 'motor mouth' Johnson on a Matralla from Redcliffe to the 'Gabba every day for a year or so back in the late 70's. He could ride the little bugger too, but as you say-very tall gearing.
Title: Re: Metralla
Post by: VMX60 on May 09, 2012, 10:01:10 pm
Know of three Ossa  being built as a copy of  this USA  dealer bike




(http://i48.tinypic.com/zs4dh.jpg)


Next year my turn to have a go

Mick do you do the ossa rear ducks head seat in f/glass

Cheers
Title: Re: Metralla
Post by: Lozza on May 09, 2012, 10:10:44 pm
Agreed, first one is Santi Herrero's works monocoque not sure if there was any other disc valve Ossa?

They were experimenting with a water cooled version when he died.

He still prefered the air cooled engine though.
Title: Re: Metralla
Post by: Montynut on May 09, 2012, 10:35:41 pm
Bultaco did some lateral thinking as well
http://www.elsberg-tuning.dk/bultaco.html
Title: Re: Metralla
Post by: Montynut on May 09, 2012, 10:51:58 pm
Thank God finally found some Montesa GP history. A second to Hailwood on the 250/6 Honda wasn't bad
http://www.philaphoto.com/imageLibrary/displayimage.php?album=1077&pos=0

250 horizontal rotary disc valve twin. Water cooled cylinders and air colled heads. What the ??? ???
Title: Re: Metralla
Post by: matcho mick on May 09, 2012, 11:50:49 pm
Montynut google Bultaco Monjuic (or montjuic?),most of those later "bully" race motors were dutch creations,whichever factory paid the race team,thats what they would call them,aermacchi also had a twin w/cooled barrels,aircooled radial finned heads, 2 stroke developed by the villa brothers too, :P
sorry VMX60,don't do that seat,(ossa engineering in the states?)
Title: Re: Metralla
Post by: Lozza on May 10, 2012, 11:21:45 am
Bultaco did some lateral thinking as well
http://www.elsberg-tuning.dk/bultaco.html

Was all Jan Thiel's work the 50cc Bully was just a rebadged Jamathi
Title: Re: Metralla
Post by: Montynut on May 10, 2012, 12:14:20 pm
what would be the motivation for a watercooled cylinder and air cooled head? Even getting the head gasket to seal when the temperature difference would be so great would seem difficult
Title: Re: Metralla
Post by: Montynut on May 10, 2012, 06:53:48 pm
Bultaco did some lateral thinking as well
http://www.elsberg-tuning.dk/bultaco.html

Was all Jan Thiel's work the 50cc Bully was just a rebadged Jamathi

Were they the same as the Kreidler 50s and 80s?
Title: Re: Metralla
Post by: Lozza on May 10, 2012, 07:34:19 pm
Bultaco did some lateral thinking as well
http://www.elsberg-tuning.dk/bultaco.html

Was all Jan Thiel's work the 50cc Bully was just a rebadged Jamathi

Were they the same as the Kreidler 50s and 80s?

JAMATHI (http://www.elsberg-tuning.dk/jamathi.html)
Title: Re: Metralla
Post by: paul on May 10, 2012, 07:45:20 pm
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Bultaco-Metralla-MKII-/230788688020?pt=AU_Motorcycles&hash=item35bc13e894