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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: Davey Crocket on November 02, 2010, 10:33:03 pm
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OK, who's your top 5 motocrossers of all time?...NO supercross riders!!...Mine are 1/ Sefan Everts 2/ Joel Robert 3/ Rodger De Coster 4/ Joel Smets 5/ Bob Hanna. They all have/had different styles but where all champions and have left the sport better off and influenced thousands of riders. They all had there weaknesses (except maybe Sefan) but pushed on through and never said die.
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Jimmy Weinert - for having the best time.
Heikki Mikkola - for disipline
Bob Hannah - attitude
Brad Lackey - determination
Rick Sieman :D :D Certainly not the fastest, but there's not many blokes that have committed their lives to the sport like he has. ;)
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Hanna took no prisoners or bullshit on the track.....Smets was the "TERMINATOR" of motocross, just a machine that told his bike what to do "you will do dis turn".....DeCoster wasnt the most talented but trained and trained and trained and trained and won....Robert was a natural talent, poetry.......Everts was the next step up ...float like a butterfly, sting like a bee!!...all legends.
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Similar to yours Davey but i'm going with-
Bob Hannah
Roger DeCoster
Joel Robert
Ricky Carmichael
Stefan Everts
Would like to have included David Bailey but that'd be top 6
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At the moment is would be;
Joel Smetts
Jeff Emig
Ben Townley
Ezra Lusk
and a toss up between Johan Boonen & Matts Nilllson
In no particular order and would probably be different next year.
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Jean Michelle Bayle
Harry Everts
Heikki Mikkola
Bob Hannah
Joel Smets
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1 Gaston Rahier
2 Jeff Leisk
3 Stefan Everts
4 Joel Robert
5 Jim Weinert
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Bob Hannah
Tony Cairoli
Harry Everts
Guennady Moisseev
Stefan Everts
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1 Gaston Rahier
2 Jeff Leisk
3 Stefan Everts
4 Joel Robert
5 Jim Weinert
Saw Gaston do a demo at Ipswich [ forgot the name of the place ] . Tivoli that,s it. Mid 70,s.
Anyhow he only lapped everyone twice I think. Was landing on front wheel going into corners. Unheard of back then.
Good choice for 1. :)
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Joel Robert......the king
Marty Tripes.....Smoothest rider I ever saw.
Per Klitland......My first motocross hero. Introduced European style riding to Australia
Heikki Mikkola...The toughest bugger to ever throw a leg over a motocross
Guy Cooper...Introduced big air time before it became a fashion statement.
* I'll add the late Gaylon Mosier to the list as #6 purely because he was as cool as shit. The man had an attraction to the ladies like no other rider of his time. I observed him for a whole weekend at Saddleback Park back in the mid 70's and he was slicker than a teflon factory, without the bluster of Hannah, gift of the gab of Weinert or rock star presence of Lackey. He was also a really nice bloke and could certainly ride those Maicos, especially at Carlsbad or Saddleback.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/M18.jpg)
How cool is this shot of Mosier on a Maico circa 1976
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My top 5 is: RC (Goat)
Hannah
Roger D
Robert
Mikkola.
Falta, Chandler, Tony D, S Everts, Cairoli are all ready replacements for the "Top 5".
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1 . dave thorpe
2. jeff leisk
3. george jobe
4. brad lackey
5. danny chandler (magoo) 8)
for the seventies
1. bob hannah
2.rodger de coster
3.heikki mikkola
4.joel robert
5. jim weinart
so many good riders hard too pick them
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Has there ever been a great SX rider who hasn't also been a great MX rider?
Even guys like Reed & McGrath who have signed SX-only contracts during their careers would have to be worthy of consideration as top MXers.
A random list of riders who I think are "great", although my criteria is very wobbly and entirely inconsistant:
1. Jeff Ward. Obviously he was a seriously good rider, but he's included on my list because I saw a doco on the history of US MX and he was a zillion times more down-to-earth than I expected.
2. Bob Hannah. For entirely the opposite personality reasons to Ward. 30 years on and he's still as self assured as ever. The lack of false humility (both then and now) is a marked change from most of the other riders of the era.
3. Jeff Leisk. Which 8 year old isn't impressed by the Gun rider of the time?
4. Glen Bell. As above, but substitute "8 year old" with "14 year old". I also think he's hugely under-rated as a rider because he didn't venture outside Australia much, and was at the peak of his career while his kids were young.
5. Ah, I'm bored typing... Let's go with TM Bill.
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1/
Dave Thorpe.....when on form he was unbeatable.....even by the yanks.
2/
Danny Chandler.....hard charger who never gave up.....rip magoo.
3/
Andre Malherbe......smooth...consistant.....deceptively fast.
4/
George Jobe.........lurrrrrved that crazy jump he did at hawkstone in 84.
5/
Pete Mathia...(81 british 125 champ).....dam good rider and very approachable bloke in uk vmx.
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Pete Mathia...(81 british 125 champ).....dam good rider and very approachable bloke in uk vmx.
He won the UK twinshock champs about two years ago. Went down in the record books as the greatest gap between national championships.
TFT's top 5 in no particular order.
1) Joel Robert (Most talented of them all).
2) Heikki (hard man and nice guy)
3) Joel Smets (ditto)
4) Greg Albertyn (IMO too many people overrate Stefan. Greg whipped his arse whenever they competed)
5) Roger.
Nearly runs:
Dave Thorpe
Guennady Moiseev (tarred by the Falta incident, he went on to win the championship fair and square)
Harry (Fark, who needs handicapped parking? Harry overcame his disablity to become one of the greats)
Yanks? I'm cautious about them. SX ain't MX and the the yanks treat MX as if it's a sideshow. But I'll let in the following (because they were real men and were prepared to put up with the deprivations of following the world circus):
Trampas
Donnie.
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Todays top five.....
Peter Pleon
Jeff Ward
Bryan Wade
Garth Ireland
Chad Reed
Gaylon Mosier-he could of come around for roast lamb any time ;D 8)
cheers
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DECOSTER
MIKKOLA
CARMICHAEL
CARLQUIST
HANNAH
IN OZ
TREVOR FLOOD
GARY FLOOD
JEFF LEISK
ANTHONY GUNTER
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Mark Barnett
Bob Hannah
Darryl King
Goof
Peter Ploen
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What, only choose 5. Bugger that, rules are for other people
Jeff Leisk
Trevor Williams
Steve Gall
Geoff Ballard
Steve Tozer
David Bailey
Jeff Ward
Malcolm Smith
Ron Lechien
Goat Breker (the original Goat)
Joel Robert
Roger Decoster
Bengt Aberg
Stefan Everts
Jean Michelle Bayle
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Marty Smith
Bob Hannah
Marty Tripes
Jeff Ward
Roger Decoster
not in any particular order.
Geoff - always gotta be difficult eh!
And Danny Magoo would be in there too but then I would be breaking the rules like Geoff ;D
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Are you sure you didnt leave any body out Geoff?
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DANIEL WILLEMSEN
HANSI BACHTOLD
ROBERT GROGG
TON Van HEUTEN
EMIL (someones cousin) BOLHALDER
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Are you sure you didnt leave any body out Geoff?
My Aussie 5, USA 5 and European 5 were whittled down from these...
Torsten Hallman
Ray Vandenberg
Ricky Johnson
Broc Glover
Johnny O’Mara
Eric Geboers
Anthony Gunter
Bob Hannah
Jeff Smith
Ben Townley
King Brothers
Hakan Carlquist
Trampas Parker ( I still wear his boots)
Gaston Rahier
Guy Cooper
John Tate
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Ricky Carmichael
Michel pichon
Ben Townley
Sebastian Tortelli
Grant Langston
Brett Metcalf
Chad Reed
Ben Coleman
Kim Askenazi
Matt Moss
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I can see your delemmer now Geoff...must have been hard to come up with your final 150 ;D...not many Vico's in there?, No wonder it took you so long to post.
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Has anybody else noticed that Stephen Gall is completely missing from these lists… :o
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1) Joel Robert he had more pure talent than the rest of grid.
2) The Man De Coster more polish than any other rider in his time.
3) Stefan Everts his résumé speaks for itself
4) Heikki Mikkola beat De Coster in his prime says enough.
5) Guy Cooper I like to watch him ride.
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Has anybody else noticed that Stephen Gall is completely missing from these lists… :o
Yeah i noticed that...not on Goof's list either.
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Wonder why? ;D
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ok
from a dirttrack riders point of veiw
chris dixson
steve gall
only because i knew the 2 from dirt track and they are st george mcc members as well
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How about the all time top five Motocross bridesmaid list:
Andre Vromans
Josh Coppins
Darryl King
Kevin Windham
Beetle Bailey
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How about the all time top five Motocross bridesmaid list:
Andre Vromans
Josh Coppins
Darryl King
Kevin Windham
Beetle Bailey
Cameron Taylor is a top bridesmaid in oz too.. he had a great long career
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Cam has won a couple of Aussie MX Lites Titles though...
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1. Steve Davis - premier mx rider that all others will be judged by (2011 #3)
2. Shane Saliba - hard, fast charger. Awesome out of the gate
3. Gary "The Hack" Hacking - bike builder and all round nice guy
4. Alan Rhia - love that crazy jump at Blue Rock
5. Danny McDonnell - made it on to the list coz he's my mate (but he can ride quite well too)
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Cam has won a couple of Aussie MX Lites Titles though...
He certainly did, well deserved too. He was always at the pointy end for a hell of a long time 8) Perfect example of hard work pays off in my opinion.
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Top "bridesmaid" has to be Jaroslav Falta, surely?
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1. Steve Davis - premier mx rider that all others will be judged by (2011 #3)
2. Shane Saliba - hard, fast charger. Awesome out of the gate
3. Gary "The Hack" Hacking - bike builder and all round nice guy
4. Alan Rhia - love that crazy jump at Blue Rock
5. Danny McDonnell - made it on to the list coz he's my mate (but he can ride quite well too)
Funny stuff. Who could possibly forget those VIPER world titles... ? :D
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1. Steve Davis - premier mx rider that all others will be judged by (2011 #3)
2. Shane Saliba - hard, fast charger. Awesome out of the gate
3. Gary "The Hack" Hacking - bike builder and all round nice guy
4. Alan Rhia - love that crazy jump at Blue Rock
5. Danny McDonnell - made it on to the list coz he's my mate (but he can ride quite well too)
Funny stuff. Who could possibly forget those VIPER world titles... ? :D
I hear that Steve Davis is pretty quick
I have his autograph on the shed wall, next to Falta & Roberts autographs
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on a forum such as this I would have thought on a list for each country, state, make, model, club etc.... etc.... wouldn't be out of the question....
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picking five is too hard, I'll just nominate the one.
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn38/mainline_bucket/johnson.jpg)
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1, Gary Flood
2, Roger D
3, Gaston
4, Geoff Taylor always there
5, Mikola
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Bob Hannah
Doug Henry
Ricky Carmichael
David Bailey
Roger Decoster
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10 x world champ Everts
2x world champ ,multiple ama champ Bayle
6x world champRobert
5x world champ and Mr 875 Geboers
5x world Champion Decoster