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Title: New member from the Netherlands
Post by: Dutch on October 31, 2010, 11:59:01 pm
Hi. Here is Dutch from the Netherlands, so sorry for my bad writing.
My BIG hobby is collecting information from speedway - longtrack - grasstrack bikes and engines.
I already have a big collection (pic - magazines - articles - etc) but specialy from bikes and engine made in New Zealand and Australia
there is a lot of information missing.
I hope to find on this forum some members with the same interest that can help me further.
Bye for now.
Title: Re: New member from the Netherlands
Post by: Hoony on November 01, 2010, 05:21:34 am
Hi Dutch, can you post up some pics of you collection if possible.
Title: Re: New member from the Netherlands
Post by: pancho on November 01, 2010, 11:04:10 am
Hi Dutch and welcome, Love your accent! [from a bloke that understands only one language] cheers pancho.
Title: Re: New member from the Netherlands
Post by: Curly3 on November 01, 2010, 06:12:09 pm
Welcome aboard Dutch,
Don't apologise for your writing because you were very easy to understand.
Speedway, Longtrack & Grasstrack are also passions of mine and several others on this forum also.
I'm not too sure about the New Zealand side of things but if you let us know a bit more about what you're after we'll be able to help.
Cheers, Steve
Title: Re: New member from the Netherlands
Post by: Dutch on November 01, 2010, 06:21:53 pm
Hoony.
For some pics of my collection just look at the German website (with online English translation) http://bahnsporttechnik.de/home.html
This website is from my friend and I help him some technical advice.

Title: Re: New member from the Netherlands
Post by: Hoony on November 01, 2010, 06:47:08 pm
Thanks Dutch i will check it out.

lots of knowledge on this forum. welcome aboard.
Title: Re: New member from the Netherlands
Post by: jimg1au on November 01, 2010, 07:56:39 pm
dutch
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bahnsporttechnik.de%2Fhome.html&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools
this is the first bit of info i have found about my bellini long track frame
thanks
jim
Title: Re: New member from the Netherlands
Post by: jimg1au on November 01, 2010, 08:11:36 pm
dutch
can you help me here the link wont work
the infois on the web site you sent a link to
jim
Title: Re: New member from the Netherlands
Post by: jimg1au on November 01, 2010, 08:13:53 pm
http://bahnsporttechnik.de/home.html
try this one
if not go to bellini in motors then page 2 anf there is my frame
jim
Title: Re: New member from the Netherlands
Post by: jimg1au on November 01, 2010, 09:42:11 pm
dutch
check out this from previous posts
http://ozvmx.com/community/index.php?topic=11239.0
jim
Title: Re: New member from the Netherlands
Post by: Curly3 on November 01, 2010, 10:17:00 pm
Dutch, I've found some info on 2 Australian made Speedway Engines that I know of, Hejison & MSM, there may be more.
If you send me or post your email address on here, I'll send it over.
Title: Re: New member from the Netherlands
Post by: JAP 454 on November 01, 2010, 10:43:53 pm
G'day , Dutch , welcome aboard ,  I'm Jim's brother and I've been a Speedway , Dirt track and Longtrack fan for years, did a little bit of riding myself.
If you have a look at the link Jim sent you there are some photos of some fairly rare Aussie built motors.

Fossil
Title: Re: New member from the Netherlands
Post by: VMX247 on November 01, 2010, 10:58:17 pm
G'day , Dutch , welcome aboard ,  I'm Jim's brother Fossil

Welcome Dutch --big history this flat track/speedway stuff..its another world  :P  :P
Do you have a sister into bikes , jim and jap454  ??
cheers Alison
Title: Re: New member from the Netherlands
Post by: firko on November 01, 2010, 11:44:39 pm
Welcome Dutch......Here's my mates Meirson to start you off on Aussie speedway engines.
                             (http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/Meirson%20DOHC.jpg)
Title: Re: New member from the Netherlands
Post by: Dutch on November 02, 2010, 01:23:55 am
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oldtimespeedway/photos/album/695125389/pic/840200317/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc
I think that there are 4 type of the MSM engine, from the (first ?) engine (see link above) I only have this very bad picture, so I am looking for a better one.
In the old site "The Workshop"  http://www.cybermotorcycle.com/archives/speedwaybikes/msm.htm
there is also some information about the MSM engine, but look direct under the Specification, there is = With his health regained, Clarry once again took up the challenge. This time, a four-valve layout was evaluated as the most promising design. Operated by twin belt-driven camshafts located in the base of the cylinder head, actuating the valves through short pushrods and rockers, it was a radical design, but in the early prototype stage retained the proven crankcase and cylinder design of the earlier engines. Using a new porting layout to give more usable power in the lower rev ranges, low and mid-range acceleration was vastly improved.
Was this 4 valve engine ever made?
 
Title: Re: New member from the Netherlands
Post by: jimg1au on November 02, 2010, 06:36:58 am
dutch
do you have any pics of the bellini long trackers with upright motors
jim
Title: Re: New member from the Netherlands
Post by: Curly3 on November 02, 2010, 07:36:23 am
Firko's mate has a great collection of exotic speedway engines and probably knows more about their history than anyone I know, maybe Firko can put you in touch with him?
 
Title: Re: New member from the Netherlands
Post by: Hoony on November 02, 2010, 05:38:00 pm
great site Dutch and a good read. i spent an hour browsing it briefly, will go back for a more detailed read later.

Thanks for the link. i have an interest in the pioneer era especially.
Title: Re: New member from the Netherlands
Post by: Dutch on November 02, 2010, 07:10:06 pm
Hi Jimg1au.
On the German site, http://www.bahnsporttechnik.de/home.html   are some photo of Bellini bikes with upright engines.
Go to motor ---- then to Bellini, the uprights engines sare in the Bellini story part 2.
There is also the Bellini prototype, a Weslake bottomhalf with a Bellini 4 Valve head.
Title: Re: New member from the Netherlands
Post by: jimg1au on November 02, 2010, 07:43:09 pm
dutch
i got that yesterday just wanted to know if you had any more as i havent seen them before on the net
Title: Re: New member from the Netherlands
Post by: Doggy Digger on November 02, 2010, 08:36:49 pm
Some bikes I saw on Dutch's Bahnsportstechnik website ... small bore youth sliders:
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(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b431/DoggyDigger/12-1.jpg)
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(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b431/DoggyDigger/11-1.jpg)
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(http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b431/DoggyDigger/13.jpg)
Title: Re: New member from the Netherlands
Post by: Dutch on November 02, 2010, 09:45:02 pm
(http://image83.webshots.com/183/0/90/71/2882090710082203489DsrjzK_ph.jpg)
Is there a member with a better pic from early MSM pushrod engine.
Just for the record, the Bahnsporttechnik site is not from me, but from my very good German friend Helmut Steinkemper.
I only help him sometimes with information
Title: Re: New member from the Netherlands
Post by: Davey Crocket on November 02, 2010, 10:06:24 pm
Is that what Vwalter rode when he was a baby?