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Marque Remarks => Spaniards (Bultaco, Ossa, Montesa etc) => Topic started by: Snowy 76 on January 12, 2008, 09:12:42 pm
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Just slipped up to a mates place to have a quite one, after a couple, it seems like a good idea to bring back to life a old Bultaco Chassis No B-1800130, engine no M-7000233, Thinking it`s a 71, 350? any info on what it is ? he also has a GM frontera he bought new in 77 up for sale.
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It's still quite early I'd suggest a trip down the bottle shop ;D ;D ;D
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has he got a pool table start winning
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Hi Snowy,
It looks like the frame is a Frontera Mk 10 250 (1978ish)
The engine is much earlier, it looks like a 1970 360.
PM me if you'd like to talk about how to get it going again...
Cheers,
Mark.
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Thanks For your reply Mark, but this bike is early 70`s,? left brake pedal, boat tail,Twin spark plug/coil set up?????????. Thanks Mark
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Hi Snowy,
Sorry to contradict Mark, What you have is a M18 El Bandito frame fitted with a M70 El Montadero(enduro) engine. It has slighly different gear ratios to the original bandit engine and a heavier flywheel,apart from that they are the same, both were 360 cc, had the same cylinder and piston. The heads were slightly different compression ratios as well.The bandit had a single coil ignition,the El Mont has a double plug ignition and the heaviest flywheel ever put on a dirt bike!!
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Thanks Moto, for the reply, Not wrong about the flywheel, was going through the engine parts the flywheel was heavier than the complete crank/conrod assembly,my mate had this running back in the 80`s? but kept trashing the crank key,since had the crank rebuilt/repaired but never re-assembled, not a Bultaco man,what was the Bandito`s place in the hole show. Hope I dont Have to put on 60KG and start swearing like blue blazes? ??????
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Was the Bandito a motocrosser ? even with a sore head I think the Bandito might be a interresting project, any more info on this bike would be great, web sites etc. Thanks Mark.
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VMX mag 10 done an article on the Bandito 360 , black and white boat tail ,lots of firbeglass bits on em,the are pretty cool lookn bike painted correctly, Hair of the dog would be my suggestion.cheers.
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Mark, don't you remember Husky Harro's Bandit at Crawford River Classic?
Peter
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If you wan't some advice mate, give up drinking if it makes you turn to Bultacos.
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Was the Bandito a motocrosser ?
It was marketed as a motocrosser. It was, in fact, a dire plan hatched by the Franco regime to lure young men from around the world into committing violent suicide.
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The legendary Harro cries tears of blood over his drowned rat Bandito at Crawford River a couple of years ago.
Where are ya Harro? The forum misses your wit, charm and wonderful exchanges with Nathan. Come back baby!
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/harro4.jpg)
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I've had the pleasure of meeting Peter as well, he showed his mug at a couple of QVMX meets last year.He certainly looks better on the forum than in real life! :D
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He certainly looks better with his helmet on.
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COME BACK HARRO!
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/harro2.jpg)
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Snowy,
The Bandito was sold in different configurations, a 350 and 360,one as a scrambler with 21 inch front wheel and scramble type handlebars knobly tyres, the other was a TT bike with a 19 inch front wheel and dirt track tyres ,different clip on bars and a more HP cylinder.The model you have has the boatail,the next model had alloy mudguards Just about all that were produced were exported from Spain,mainly to America. They were sucessful in TT racing and desert racing.
The engine as you have seen is very robust (heavy) the gears (4 speed) are bigger than some used in a truck!! but they are also a reliable engine when set up properly.
Parts are readily available for them. Might pay to look into the couple of gears needed to change from Montadero to Bandito ratios if you plan to race it seriously? as the Montadero gears can be a bit too widely spaced for Mx use, but you do get used to it after a while.
My Montadero has engine no 70 00231 and has been a good reliable, racing? hack over the last few years.
PM me if you need any more info.
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Cop the melon on the bloke talking to Harro.
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Yes Peter, you only have to meet Harro once, great bloke and the Bandito was a serious roost machine. Thanks Moto I`ll be in touch.
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Magoo,
I agree that he'd look a lot better if he left his helmet on too!!
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Settle down mark,
I don't think this would be the bike to go out and challenge Rossco400's new bike in pre 70 on,
could be OK on the dirt track though, can you have it ready for the Jack Hogg,
big Kev's Bandito (ex husky harro's) bike.
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j41/Tento850/DSCF1337.jpg)
Far left taken at Coffs nat's
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Harro was looking down to find that the air cleaner wasn't connected to the back of the carby, one of those high tech hose clamp things was missing,whats a bit of mud anyway!
He always boasted that he had the best tool kit of anyone in the pits, every tool brand new, never used !!! Come back Harro.
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This taken at Coff Classic Dirt, just found heap of old photos so stuck them up in fotos section.
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh160/rosco400_photos/CoffsClassicDirtTrack07018.jpg)
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Bit of advertising hype from 1968.
Cheers
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m156/609759/bultaco1111.jpg)
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Geeesssss
things must be quiet, what are we all doing in the bultaco forum
when does the riding start.
Noel
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Hi Mark,
Yep Moto you're right - I must have got an extra digit there and got 180 mixed up with 18...
It would still be fun to get right - its really a Bandito with lower gearing and a smaller carby.
They are a bit rare for Bully's as they have a right hand kickstarter and a gear driven primary gear.
And they do have plenty of go - even though they are a bit heavy.
It'd be good to see you in the Pre 65/70 class against my mighty Mk1 Pursang!
Cheers,
Mark.
PS And that is a very fine looking gentleman - the ex Bandito owner I mean...
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did the bandito have a geared primary ? instead of the chain ,
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Yes it did,and a much larger(heavier) clutch than the normal Bult unit fitted to all the other models.
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Bit of advertising hype from 1968.
Cheers
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m156/609759/bultaco1111.jpg)
Not bad copy. Truth in advertising I'm not so sure about ;D, but nice copy.
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Hey Snowy,
did you have a feather of?
You have got a great project there, I've got a 69 El Monta boat tail in the shed bought in Bendigo about 15 years ago, and apart from checking the bore have not done anything to it. Your efforts may inspire me.
Moto, I didn't know about the tt version of the bandito, number one son wants to mod the above bike into some sort of cafe racer thing, he might not be to far of the mark. He has been out voted, I reckon they look pretty good in dirt track attire.
All the best with the resto
john
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Is it me or does Big Kev have the Works shocks on upside down on the Bandito?
http://www.siegecraftnw.com/C69-1.htm (http://www.siegecraftnw.com/C69-1.htm)
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Is it me or does Big Kev have the Works shocks on upside down on the Bandito?
http://www.siegecraftnw.com/C69-1.htm (http://www.siegecraftnw.com/C69-1.htm)
Don't know about the shox Firko but I perfer the look of the alloy gaurds over the 'boat tail'.
(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l187/mx250a/69-SS-Bandito.jpg)
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boat tails for mine, by a canvas
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I prefer the boat tail. I love these old Banditos, they've got more soul than a truck full of Lobitos.
OOPS! I can feel el Presidente bubbling away, ready to attack again. I'd better duck out of the way.
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Just a bit off topic but does anyone know if the original steel gaurds available, got a 73 husky rt that had these originally and wouldnt mind a set
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G`day Rosco, I think they where alloy, but you`d have to be a bloody Accountant to afford them , Vintage Husky advertises them.
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Rosco,
The originals were Stainless steel, I have an original front from my RT that you can have a look at. You will have trouble getting s/s.I think Snowy's alloy option is about as good as your going to get. The s/s come up on evilbay sometimes.
Give Allan Mallam a ring,you never know?
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Hodaka guards are very very similar and a lot easier and cheaper to find/buy ...Hey what am I doing in Bultaco World??? Easy Astros , Boat tails ,Black and White El Banditos the Blue Parsangs are simply beautiful machines. Tim
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Easy Astros , Boat tails ,Black and White El Banditos the Blue Parsangs are simply beautiful machines. Tim
What no mention of Cappra's or Stilleto's >:(; right, you've been struck from the christmas card list ;D.
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I was referring to Bultacos.........have another swig of the Grappa >:( gees I knew looking in urowpeeon land would be a mistake............. ::)
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(http://)(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t182/mbmech/DSC04909.jpg)
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Guess who`s learn`t to post pics, Birko`s Bandido!
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I thought you were a mechanic.
aren't those bits in the box supposed to be inside the aluminum bits,
looks good 8)
cheers
Noel
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Didn`t say I was a good mechanic? Had to spend a bit on the crank and engine case repair, so this will be a long term project.
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Rosco I think Road&Race at Newcastle have stainless steel gaurds just google the name. jimson
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Phil @Road and Race 0243884211
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FIRKO,MAGOO,BRAD,MOTO,SNOWY
Good to see you all still hanging shit on me and the Bandit......not a truthfull photo there Firko you should let the boys know that just before that photo I filled you in big time when you were parked at the pit corner!!!!!!! and wait to you ride the Bandido Snowy and I quote its like taking a AK 47 to a knife fight.....good f%^&* luck its not a nancy boy luvvin honda that you are used too its got no suspension doesnt steer and shitloads of nasty power thats why I now ride a refined machine a Suzuki TM 400 Cyclone...similar weapon.....heaps of nasty power no brakes doesnt steer what more could you need.
Also Firko and Magoo you boys leave Nathan alone........hes alright....so I am told and I cant afford to be barred again!
Regards
Husky Harro,J.B Bandido,Suzbulvarna
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Here he is! The ghost who walks! Its my best attribute, taking the piss. I thought i would be having a chat with you the other week at Oran Park but you dissapeared like a thief in the night! A TM400 you say, make sure someone has a video handy when you take her out. I always enjoy a laugh at another's expense! Welcome back sir.
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Harro, you lovable, sweet, caring and sharing love puppy! You and the Swede are welcome to pop into the Kompound for a cold Kozel or two at CD5. Have you got another bike yet? Im sure either Husky 67 or Husky 61 will have their collections on hand for a loaner. It should be a good double party on Saturday night with the two camps combining for a gastronomic blowout.
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Brad,
Dust at Moto Mayhem got the best of me and I called back to the vintage boys saw Mark Austin and Snowy then headed over to the Super Moto to catch up with Rev Head Lovett and Brett Bull who was down from the coast looking after the Husky Team from Feeneys.
I guess you will be going to CD5 if so I will catch up and say howdy over a cold one.....speaking of cold ones there Firko, my Swedish mate and I will most definitley call in to the Kevlar Komplex for fuel and thanks for the kind words and if Shoey or Andrews offers I will on the Huskies in a flash old habits die hard.
See you boys at Barleigh Ranch
Harro
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Harro...I guess you'll be competing with Johnny Berhens for a spot on any of the 'Husky Brothers' bikes. Even though they'll have 147 bikes between 'em, Berhens did have a tendency to destroy anything under him so there may not be too many left by day three.
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Rumour has it J.B.Bandito, has a new mate for the wicked Tm 400. Something along the lines of bringing a AK47 to a knife fight
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See you there ;) Oh! I see you have been out for a run on the TM400 already :D
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2007-5/1259377/1sw.jpg)
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Ahhhh,
Mr 090 this photo looks like a guy I saw at Mt Tambourine a couple of years ago when he had a HUGE highside on the main straight on a CR 500 seem familiar does it????
Harro
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Um..... no comment :-[
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Hi Mark ,
Noticed that the Bandido isn't on the entry list for dirt track >:(
how's it going.
Noel
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Well the Just had a thousand beers project Bultaco Bandito will hopefully be a go`er over Xmas hols, just need one more bit. 3rd gear idler, part no 18.11-p004. Don Newell has supplied all the bearings gaskets seals etc, and the other 5 gears I need to get the close ratio gearbox {Had m70 gearbox}but still missing this gear. any one else I can try here or OS? {Would want new gear} Thanks Birko
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Hi Birko,
There are a few suppliers in Spain, most of which speak Spanish only...
Here are a couple of the more advanced guys:
http://www.romeromotos.com/ingles/principaleng.htm (http://www.romeromotos.com/ingles/principaleng.htm)
http://ivancirre.com/ (http://ivancirre.com/)
And here is a Spanish classic bike portal with links to lots of suppliers:
http://lamaneta.org/ (http://lamaneta.org/)
Cheers,
Mark
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Buy another husky
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Bought a frame for my Mag motor, another Husky will come from that. ;)