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Title: Topic: Don't you hate it when somebody just deletes their thread…
Post by: paul on September 30, 2010, 04:46:41 pm
 ;D
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Post by: All Things 414 on September 30, 2010, 04:49:02 pm
And when the weak pricks lock 'em....
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Post by: 83husky on September 30, 2010, 04:55:15 pm
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Post by: vmx42 on September 30, 2010, 05:57:58 pm
ah diddums!!!

To close to home for you I suppose…
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Post by: All Things 414 on September 30, 2010, 06:00:30 pm
C'mon. Tell us all about your experiences with 'em......
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Post by: jerry on September 30, 2010, 06:12:23 pm
Here's a hyperthetical! Suppose the Euro's didn't invent Scrambling / Motocross. Do you think the Japanese would have just happened to invent for themselves? Personally I think we should be very greatful that it was invented by the Euro's or we wouldn't have MX or for that matter VMX or OZVMX and I woudn't be typing this because this forum wouldn't exist. Cheers Jerry
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Post by: vmx42 on September 30, 2010, 06:30:05 pm
C'mon. Tell us all about your experiences with 'em......

So now you want an adult discussion? And if you don't agree with my comments I suppose you will delete the thread, or will you just spew out some more bile ridden expletives?

That sounds like a hoot!!!

How about you contact Graeme and request that the rules of OzVMX be altered to give you the last word whenever you see fit. You could even be appointed as the moderator for the Montesa forum to ensure that no reprobates dare to cross the threshold.
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Post by: matcho mick on September 30, 2010, 08:21:13 pm
fight,fight, :o
you guys crack me up, :P
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Post by: Curly3 on September 30, 2010, 08:43:44 pm
It might be time that you need a legitimate email address before you can get on.
Hiding behind alias's is crap, if you are going to open your gob, stick to it.
I agree with Mick, some of it is funny, BUT.
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Post by: oldfart on September 30, 2010, 08:45:08 pm
Or better still, if you havn't got anything constructive to add- don't waste my time and others.  
Title: Re: Topic: Don't you hate it when somebody just deletes their thread…
Post by: All Things 414 on October 01, 2010, 06:27:14 am
C'mon. Tell us all about your experiences with 'em......

So now you want an adult discussion? And if you don't agree with my comments I suppose you will delete the thread, or will you just spew out some more bile ridden expletives?


Fella I don't see anything adult about jumping on into a thread and just bagging what's been put up there without backing it up at all. But you're a GOB so that's ok.

 
Get on back to producing candy for the masses.....
Title: Re: Topic: Don't you hate it when somebody just deletes their thread…
Post by: All Things 414 on October 01, 2010, 06:44:37 am
Your whole theary that "they went out of business so they must have had a poor product" is like saying "the Germans lost the second World War so they must have had bad Armies"......

When you put forward some fact as to why their bikes were poorly designed, I'll offer an unequivical appology. Until then.......
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Post by: mx250 on October 01, 2010, 08:28:41 am
The point is Ross no one else can form an opinion or contribute or make corrections or recant if the thread is not available.

If it's the thread I'm thinking of I didn't think things were going that badly for Monty anyway. I agree with you they are underrated and under-value by many, both then and now, but hey, that's their lost ;).

As I said before if the price had been right I would have bought any of the Euro racers in a heart beat. In other threads I have said how much I have enjoyed owning and working on the Monty. It has been an 'eye opener' and has bought new respect to the engineers who worked with at least 'one arm tied behind their back' thanks to the short sighted policy of Franco.

I feel a project coming on; Project MOJO (Montesa Owners Joint Operation - the slogan quite obviously is 'Get Your Mojo Back: Ride a Montesa' ;D).

Project MOJO; to get a number of prominent Montesa owners clubed together with money and racing resources and make it the aim for one years Nationals 'whitewash' the event by winning every class 8). (All future communiques will be done by PM and in secret - the bastards won't see us coming ;) :D)

That'll give the doubters something to thinking about - and we can 'dine' on the results for years to come ;D.
Title: Re: Topic: Don't you hate it when somebody just deletes their thread…
Post by: vmx42 on October 01, 2010, 09:15:27 am
Your whole theary that "they went out of business so they must have had a poor product" is like saying "the Germans lost the second World War so they must have had bad Armies"......

When you put forward some fact as to why their bikes were poorly designed, I'll offer an unequivical appology. Until then.......

You had the 'forum' to dispute what I said, but you chose to delete it. You could have come back and joined in a light hearted adult discussion and shared your obvious Montesa knowledge, but instead you took your 'bat and ball' and deleted the thread. You could have left the thread intact and allowed the world to see, what you believe were, my obvious transgressions and lack of respect to the once mighty Montesa, but again you prefer to tell everybody I was out of line after you have removed the proof.

There was nothing in either of my contributions to your thread that was in any way personal or derogatory towards you, or even your beloved brand. You obviously don't agree, but instead of offering a considered response and furthering my Montesa education you simply resorted to foul and abusive language.

Yes, I believe what I said was true. I wasn't having a 'dig' or picking at a scab to annoy you, though I obviously have - you might not have noticed but this is a public forum [try looking up that word in the dictionary] and as such people are permitted to offer their opinions without first seeking your permission.

It obviously annoys you that Montesa went to the wall. You probably aren't pleased that Honda only bought the factory to get around government protectionism and establish a production facility in Western Europe - you were probably under the impression that they purchased the company to obtain access to all of the ground breaking innovations hidden in the engineering department.

They were a good solid, European manufacturer. But unfortunately at that time that wasn't enough to garner continued support from the marketplace. As I offered in my post - it wasn't necessarily their fault - but they didn't keep up. They didn't refinance, retool, redesign and move into to 20th manufacturing processes like Ferrari did to with stand the Japanese onslaught - they instead [like most of their Euro brothers] traded on their once good name and the punters said it wasn't enough.

If that summary offends you, then I am sorry. If I am wrong then please correct me [without the swearing and agro]… or you can simply 'Maintain the rage'. The choice is yours.  :)
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Post by: matcho mick on October 01, 2010, 10:39:48 am
ah ,morning brings clarity :-*,(either that or your'e both sober ;D ;D) :P
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Post by: vmx42 on October 01, 2010, 11:23:49 am
ah ,morning brings clarity :-*,(either that or your'e both sober ;D ;D) :P

Sorry Mick, I have been completely consistent. And I am not a drinker… which is probably part of the problem!  ;)
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Post by: mx250 on October 01, 2010, 11:59:25 am
ah ,morning brings clarity :-*,(either that or your'e both sober ;D ;D) :P

 And I am not a drinker… which is probably part of the problem!  ;)
:D
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Post by: David Lahey on October 01, 2010, 01:56:59 pm
I'm quite interested in the period around the time of the Honda buyout of Montesa as it relates to Honda and Montesa trials bikes.
It must have been a strange thing to have the continuation of local development of the Montesas alongside what was happening with the works Hondas of the time. Honda being so focussed on making world-beating 4 stroke (works) bikes, but not selling anything to the public, while Montesa continued with incremental development of their two stroke production bikes.
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Post by: montynut on October 01, 2010, 07:04:43 pm
Thankyou VMX42 for your indepth critique of the Montesa brands failures if only you had been a consultant at the time :P. I am not going to try and have an 'adult' discussion about it because

1) You are not going to change your position and only posted as a bait (I red the posts).

2) Basically as you say you are entitled to your opinion and equally I am entitled to give it no value and it will not change the true facts.

I am sure we would all be rivetted by your witty, comprehensive, intimate and unbiased  knowledge of the failures of Maico, Bultaco, Ossa, Triumph, BSA, Bridgestone, Norton, Husqvarna (as the Swedish brand) and Greeves along with dozens of other once great and respected brands. All Euro trash. Please enlighten us.
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Post by: vmx42 on October 01, 2010, 07:33:11 pm
…you say you are entitled to your opinion and equally I am entitled to give it no value and it will not change the true facts.

That's the way a forum works, I would expect nothing less.

You seem to have a problem with me offering comments that you disagree with [as is your right], but you offer no comment on the foul and abusive language offered forth by way of a defence for daring to enter the hallowed Montesa forum uninvited.  Had one of the Montesa faithful simply pointed out my mistakes all of this vitriol would have been avoided - or was that too much to expect?

And just as an aside, I am more than happy to change my opinion - educate me…, give me the facts. I'm all ears and awaiting your response. You probably don't believe me, and think I am just taking the piss, but you would be wrong.

VMX42
Title: Re: Topic: Don't you hate it when somebody just deletes their thread…
Post by: suzuki43 on October 01, 2010, 07:35:23 pm
Face facts guys,they were heaps of shit that no wanted to buy, hence the parent company went bust.
Suck it up and get on with it.
Title: Re: Topic: Don't you hate it when somebody just deletes their thread…
Post by: All Things 414 on October 01, 2010, 07:41:40 pm
Face facts guys,they were heaps of shit that no wanted to buy, hence the parent company went bust.
Suck it up and get on with it.


This truely shows how dim-witted you are fella. :D Your posts at best skirt around around your knowledge of motocross. This comfirms you haven't got a clue. Maybe a job in journalism awaits you....
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Post by: suzuki43 on October 01, 2010, 07:49:54 pm
Cmon on Ross give us a kiss mate,just wanted to see if you were still awake xx
Who gives a shit mate,race your bikes and enjoy it,I know I do.
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Post by: suzuki43 on October 01, 2010, 07:52:47 pm
PS go and see my twin brother Scott at the next Viper race and I will send him a telepathic double upper cut, to give to you darling xx
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Post by: montman on October 01, 2010, 08:10:05 pm
Face facts guys,they were heaps of shit that no wanted to buy, hence the parent company went bust.
Suck it up and get on with it.


Hmm were you around in the 1970's riding montesa i was and they were not heaps of s--- as you say, also i suggest you read up a bit more on difficulties in spain re montesa/bultaco/ossa it might enlighten you on political issues to do with these makes.I find it very sad that all of this has come from one piece of montesa history that someone thought other people might want to share.I did put the first reply on that thread but did not see the others so can not comment further.I think everyone should now draw a line under this subject and enjoy there preferred make/s of bike.Oh and in 37/8/9 years of racing i could slag most makes of bikes off including montesa but you have to ask yourself WHY.
Title: Re: Topic: Don't you hate it when somebody just deletes their thread…
Post by: suzuki43 on October 01, 2010, 08:15:08 pm
Oh man,dont you guys know a piss take,when you read one.....
I was far too young in the late 1970's to remember them,let alone give a shit now.
Toughen up ladies,race/ride your old Spanish iron,and enjoy them.
Each to their own I say.

But for F*CKS SAKE GROW A THICK SKIN!!!!!!
Seriously,if you reallly do get upset by people bagging your bikes,you need to get a life.
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Post by: Davey Crocket on October 01, 2010, 09:37:48 pm
Nothin to do in Jaffa Town tonight Lizzie?...whats happening over there at the moment.....Felton building anything cool?....is Ira making another TS Works bike?....DJ adding to the "shed"?....Macca eating himself to sleep?....Capitain Kirk off with the marsians?......little Les given up the drink?...have you got the "wobbler" wheels off your bike yet?....
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Post by: Rossvickicampbell on October 01, 2010, 09:47:30 pm
you beauty Davey - I knew there was something wrong with me old mate Craigy - you've got training wheels haven't you son!!!!!  I was buggered working out how you could stay upright - God it's so obvious now..................
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Post by: suzuki43 on October 02, 2010, 05:22:07 am
Gday Davey,sorry mate,must have hit the hay before your post.
Yeah just stirring up the thin skinned last night.....
All good over here,Mike is still building some trick machines,Ira has acquired his tenth A5 I think,DJ still beavering in the 'mosque' and my trainers are still wobbling!
Look forward to seeing you Easter mate.

Rossco,thats pot calling kettle black son!!
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Post by: maico girl on October 02, 2010, 11:50:38 am
PS go and see my twin brother Scott at the next Viper race and I will send him a telepathic double upper cut, to give to you darling xx

Now the other stuff you were sprouting was what comes normal from a guy who knows little and is trying desperatly to impress his mates.....

But this bit above is threatening violence. Now that is naughty and I'm afraid to say I'm not gunna let that go through to the keeper.
We'll catch up somewhere numb-nuts ;D
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Post by: Scunge on October 02, 2010, 02:19:49 pm
Come and see me Girl.
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Post by: suzuki43 on October 02, 2010, 02:47:43 pm
Boy oh boy, I am scared.See you soon darling xx
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Post by: suzuki43 on October 02, 2010, 02:54:31 pm
Looks like I will get a few extra Xmas cards this year ;D.Good riddance to a complete and utter F"ing W**ker and the most hated man on this Forum,full stop!!
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Post by: firko on October 07, 2010, 12:46:27 pm
I got a phonecall from a mate late yesterday arvo telling me to turn the telly on straight away and dial in the 'Fuel' channel.
Having done that I found that I was watching a repeat of episode 2 of this seasons MXTV, the episode with Macca's interview with the now departed from this forum Ross Nimmo.  Macca was in his usual smooth, Bert Newton like personna asking general questions regarding Mr Nimmo's Montesa collection when towards the end of the segment he threw in the bravest bit of television journalism since Elle McFeast interviewed a pissed Chopper Read.  Macca: Now Ross, I've done some research and I've found that Montesas are supposed to be very, very unreliable. I instantly sat on the edge of my seat and fumbled with the hand control to turn up the sound in anticipation of either Macca copping a punch on the chin, or more likely, a rant that'd probably blame Macca's impertinent question on him being a member of the good 'ol boy evil empire that had made Mr Nimmos life such hell for the last few years. Sadly, I was disappointed. Other than Mr Nimmos voice going up an octave, his face getting tad redder and the smile quickly disappearing from his face, nothing much happened. It seems that it's easier to defend perceived Montesa insults by chucking a hissy fit online than to do it in front of a national TV audience. Funny that.
http://www.mxtv.com.au/episodes/2010/02-02.php (http://www.mxtv.com.au/episodes/2010/02-02.php)
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Post by: BAHNZY on October 07, 2010, 01:36:55 pm
I've sat on the sidelines watching this thread and purposefully kept out of it, and in reality should continue to do so, but....

The thread was pulled for whatever reasons (I won’t buy into the how, what &  when) yet it continues to be bought to the attention of the forum members at will to discredit certain individuals. Ross is as thick skinned as any one I have come across, will help anyone at the drop of the hat, yet the barrage continues. Light hearted banter is one thing, but this continual posting is getting beyond what I think is fair game.

What happened in the past is just that, in the past. Please, enough is enough.
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Post by: firko on October 07, 2010, 01:49:10 pm
Go back and have a read at who started the shit Bahnsy. I think many of us have been on the receiving end of his crap for way too long and after personally copping serves from him for years with little or no provocation I don't think a little light hearted fun at his expense is out of place. If you'd ever have been on the receiving end of his rants you'd feel the same.
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Post by: vmx42 on October 07, 2010, 02:14:09 pm
Ross com back , dont let the bullies get to you .

Sorry Walter,
But as the target of the last of his abusive and foul mouthed rants, I have to disagree with you as to who the bully was. It was one way traffic, and completely uncalled for. And then to delete the posts and act like they never existed was pretty lame.

But like you, I have only ever found VMXers to be great people, that is why is abuse was so unexpected, and probably why I dug my heels in to defend myself. Can't say I have seen many gross overreactions of that nature it on this site. I could have just encountered him on a bad day, and I would be more than happy to meet him for a beer anytime. But I might not mentions Montesas.  ;)

As for your preference for that style of abusive posting instead of Suzuki footpegs - I would prefer somewhere in the middle.
VMX42
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Post by: firko on October 07, 2010, 02:38:37 pm
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Ross com back , dont let the bullies get to you .
Give me a break Walter. You've either let Ross's being a customer taint your outlook or you've been overlooking his posts. All things 414 is the main bully on this forum and has been for a long time. His continual jabs at me, the so called GOBs or anyone he disagreed with were uncalled for. For f*ck sake, we all disagree with this or that on the forum but most of us can debate the subject without bursting into a hissy fit. I'd had enough of being the fodder for his crap so I went on a different tack and tried being nice to him and be cordial and friendly. Unfortunately it didn't work so in the end I just ignored his rudeness. This last thread where he laid the slipper into VMX42 for no reason other than not sharing his view on Montesas downfall was boorish and uncalled for.
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Post by: vmx42 on October 07, 2010, 02:40:17 pm
Hey Walter,
I was only talking about the posts directed at me, and putting the record straight as to who was bullying who [your words not mine]. But IMHO, there is no place for that kind of personal attack on this site - go back and read the posts and tell me what you would have said?

I would have thought it more appropriate, that senior members of this forum should have called him on the foul language and told him that he had gone too far and to pull his head in. If I used that language on this forum, I would hope somebody would pull me up and tell me I was being a knob.

I have absolutely no doubt there is more to the man than that, and that over a hot cuppa there would be no problem. I was only reacting to this single issue and when we meet I hope we can have a laugh about it.

And for the record [and for hopefully the last time], I never said Montesas were crap… which make the whole thing even stranger.
VMX42
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Post by: vmx42 on October 07, 2010, 02:53:53 pm
Best probably to give it all a rest  learn from it and let the wounds heal.

Yes, please!  ;)
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Post by: suzuki43 on October 07, 2010, 03:14:38 pm
Sorry to add to this but I think its wise to explain my position on this 'gentleman'.
I have throughout my life detested bullying,which is exactly what this guy has been doing for far too long.
Unfortunately I provoked him,but I stand by my comments, and would welcome a 'friendly' discussion with Ross sometime in the future.

But the facts remain the same,the guy is a cyber bully.

Finito on this subject for me.
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Post by: paul on October 07, 2010, 04:23:53 pm
im sure good old ross doesn.t gives a rats arse what any body thinks
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Post by: firko on October 07, 2010, 04:33:35 pm
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Finito on this subject for me.
Me too...I made my point . There's no need for bully boy behavior.
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Post by: paul on October 07, 2010, 04:51:24 pm
walter im sure he knows what ive said :P
Title: Re: Topic: Don't you hate it when somebody just deletes their thread…
Post by: mx250 on October 07, 2010, 07:35:25 pm
Come guys, get a grip. Whatever the differences I haven't seen anything I would faintly call 'bullying' ::).

But it's a democracy; people come and go as they please for reasons that please them.
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Post by: AjayVMX on October 07, 2010, 08:30:45 pm
There is no doubt in my mind that this forum has recently been a lot harder to like.  :-\  It's really hard work to enjoy reading and the sh*tfights are just plain destructive for our sport.

Some of this is because people post crap, then delete it when they have second thoughts.  The deleting of threads and posts needs to be prevented in my opinion.  That way, people might think more before they fire off a broadside.

Secondly, some people on here think it's funny to be abrasive, overbearing in their opinions and in some cases, just downright offensive.  We don't need to name and shame those people, no doubt they would gain more satisfaction if their names were mentioned.

And of course the multiple personalities is also just BS.

For heaven's sake - this used to be a friendly, funny and informative forum about VMX bikes.  Why not try to return to the old ways?

So please Graeme - time really has come for everyone who shows open disrespect towards other members to be booted out.  Also, please check the IP numbers and boot out the duplicates while you're there...  ;)

and lastly of course, please disable the ability of non-members to post.  :o
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Post by: Curly3 on October 07, 2010, 08:37:26 pm
Well said Ajay, I couldn't agree more.
I personally hate hypocrites that post a certain viewpoint but follow another and don't have the balls to leave it up long enough for all to see how thick they really are.
Don't bring personal vendettas here.
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Post by: GMC on October 07, 2010, 08:41:39 pm
There is no doubt in my mind that this forum has recently been a lot harder to like.  :-\  It's really hard work to enjoy reading and the sh*tfights are just plain destructive for our sport.

So true


and lastly of course, please disable the ability of non-members to post.  :o

I think you will find that posts from guests were posted before they quit.
Title: Re: Topic: Don't you hate it when somebody just deletes their thread…
Post by: Graeme M on October 07, 2010, 08:48:54 pm
That's true, non-members cannot post. I still disagree with the argument that posters should not be able to delete their posts, but willing to listen to people's views.

As far as disrespect and so on, perhaps you are right. I read some of the US forums and thought they were pretty open in allowing 'robust' discussion, but it does get tiresome the amount of personal abuse they dish up. So, what's the view? Do we get heavier on those who get too personal in their comments?

On that matter, I might mention I've had a couple of serious complaints about just that sort of thing recently, so I realise we need to be careful...
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Post by: VMX247 on October 07, 2010, 08:54:33 pm

On that matter, I might mention I've had a couple of serious complaints about just that sort of thing recently, so I realise we need to be careful...

Who are the complaints coming from old or new members...??(not really a question more of a stastistics review) on that note,we need to encourage new wannabeee's  :P  :)
cheers
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Post by: jerry on October 07, 2010, 08:56:13 pm
Very easy to mouth off on a forum when you dont have to talk face to face. Also very easy to hide behind multiple pseudonyms. Perhaps we could all man up and use our real names. Cheers Jerry PS Hey Graeme what about posting a simple code of conduct guideline for appropriate behaviour for those that struggle with basic respect.
Title: Re: Topic: Don't you hate it when somebody just deletes their thread…
Post by: Graeme M on October 07, 2010, 09:04:58 pm
Yes, good idea Jerry. I will try to draft something up over the coming days. Please post your ideas for a draft 'code of conduct' under the new topic I will start in a moment.

Alison, non-members!
Title: Re: Topic: Don't you hate it when somebody just deletes their thread…
Post by: AjayVMX on October 07, 2010, 09:19:32 pm
That's true, non-members cannot post. I still disagree with the argument that posters should not be able to delete their posts, but willing to listen to people's views.

OK, I had forgotten that is what happens when someone is no longer a member  :-[

The deleting of posts REALLY needs to be stopped... PLEASE  Only moderators and admin should be able or allowed to delete posts.  No other forum I participate in allows deleting by members and they are much better behaved as a result.

As far as disrespect and so on, perhaps you are right. I read some of the US forums and thought they were pretty open in allowing 'robust' discussion, but it does get tiresome the amount of personal abuse they dish up. So, what's the view? Do we get heavier on those who get too personal in their comments?

Really, there should be NO personal comments at all in a discussion forum such as this.  They only lead one direction...  ::)
Title: Re: Topic: Don't you hate it when somebody just deletes their thread…
Post by: YZ250H on October 07, 2010, 09:47:20 pm
Excuse me for wading in up to my armpits but .......

Maybe we could all just take two teaspoons of cement in the morning and harden the f*ck up.
Who really cares if someone calls you a nasty name or whatever.  It's a forum of motorcycle riders.  It isn't aunty Mary's frickin knitting forum.

Geez People stop being so precious and let's just enjoy talking about bikes, how to restore them and how to get them going better.

So what if Montessa's are peices of crap.  WHO CARES?? They are still fun to ride.  There are probably a hundred other bikes that some people love that are heaps of crap too, but we still love 'em.
I've never met anything on two wheels that I didn't enjoy riding.
 
Let's just move on with our lives.  Anyone that has been here long enough knows we have been through all this stuff before.  How about we park our egos out the back and just talk about what we all love.

Bring back Rubberneck I say.  This forum was certainly far more intesting back then.

There - I've said it.  ;)

Edit - not a shot at you 414 - just a general observation
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Post by: TM BILL on October 07, 2010, 09:49:59 pm
Totally agree re deleting post  ::) only moderators should be able to delete post.

I dont know how feasable it is to stop the multiple ideniteys  but it would be good if it could be done .

When all said and done Graeme provides this great site and forum for us at no charge and its up to us the members not to be a pain in the arse and treat the forum with respect .
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Post by: Mick D on October 07, 2010, 09:59:00 pm
Hello all. I only have one identity, it is my real name, Mick De. I figure this thread would be the best place to find Montesa collectors at the moment. I need one of those you bueat twin leading shoe front stoppers that the early Impallas and some 68, 69 GP 360 Cappras used. I need it to pull Precious up, when she hits 125 mile per hour.
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Post by: Nathan S on October 07, 2010, 10:01:29 pm
Is the multiple identities thing still a problem? The serial offenders all seem to have stopped doing it (or gotten a LOT better at it), and now that Nimmo Girl has also gone, I'm not aware of any active multiple personality disorders.

(Although, Is it OK if I keep my "Mainline" log in? I only use it when when I've got sand in my vagina? That's OK, isn't it?)

Serious reply: What YZ250H said.
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Post by: YZ250H on October 07, 2010, 10:03:27 pm

(Although, Is it OK if I keep my "Mainline" log in? I only use it when when I've got sand in my vagina? That's OK, isn't it?)


 :D :D :D
You must teach me how to put the quote in your signature one day.
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Post by: firko on October 07, 2010, 11:11:41 pm
 It's all my fault this slagfest re erupted and I'll cop it on the chin. I took the opportunity to take a good old fashioned cheap shot at Ross and while it's probably not conducive to good forum behavior or political correctness, bugger it...he deserved it and I feel better for doing it. ;D

On the removal of posts situation, I'm of two minds. Sometimes we make a post that's done in haste, contains errors or just plain doesn't read right once its online so it's handy to have the option to remove it. I generally stick with my original post and cop the consequences of its content but I recently made a couple of posts during the heat of the pre 90 debate that once up didn't read the way I'd intended them, so I pulled them. I believe the right to self edit should remain despite the frustration of seeing good interesting posts and in some cases whole threads go missing for no sensible reason.

The multiple member thing is another thing that can be a problem. I've been guilty in the past but haven't used any other sign ons for quite a while now. It'd be nice if the others guilty of the same "crime" could be as open. I believe that most of the ulterior identities were invented purely for fun as mine were and Maico Girl which I actually thought was funny. Magoo and I shared an extra identity (Sun Prarie Jimmy) that we had some fun with. It even got to the point that we gave the login to a few different members so that at one stage four or five different guys were posting under the same name which really confused one particular forum member who thought he had Sun Praries identity worked out ;D. Magoo thought it was a hoot. It was the same with the born again Christian Bultaco Rally posts of a few years ago (Sherpa S, Grant and the Cocoa Fluffies crew). I got the blame but in truth the posts were done by a committee of good 'ol boys having a bit of fun at el Clubo Bultacos expense. It was all good fun but when multiple identities are used purely to slag people off it stops being fun.

Lets all lighten up a bit and get back to the great vibe that separated this forum from the rest. I'll do my bit.
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Post by: VMX247 on October 07, 2010, 11:20:53 pm
. Magoo and I shared an extra identity (Sun Prarie Slim) that we had some fun with.


 :D   OMG you bastards ...I always wondered who you where  :o
cheers
Title: Re: Topic: Don't you hate it when somebody just deletes their thread…
Post by: AjayVMX on October 07, 2010, 11:26:16 pm
Of course members should still be able to edit posts.  ;D

They may decide to delete ALL the content of the post and leave it blank, but at least others will know that something was posted initially.  ;)
Title: Re: Topic: Don't you hate it when somebody just deletes their thread…
Post by: NR555 on October 08, 2010, 12:02:06 am
Totally agree re deleting post  ::) only moderators should be able to delete post.

I dont know how feasable it is to stop the multiple ideniteys  but it would be good if it could be done .

When all said and done Graeme provides this great site and forum for us at no charge and its up to us the members not to be a pain in the arse and treat the forum with respect .

People don't realise how easy it is for an Admin to tell who is using a fake identity.  If Graeme really wanted to, he could name & shame the people doing it.  Your IP address doesn't change when you switch to your fake user, and unless you happen to have someone else who is suddenly very interested in VMX behind your firewall, you're very easily identifiable.  In every single post you'll notice that your IP is logged.  If you could be arsed, you could create, then post using your fake ID via anonymous proxies and bounce your messages through a few more routers, but I doubt many on here would go to that sort of trouble.

I had an overly concerned once-off poster appear after I posted a link to some bikes being loaded into a container in the UK on this forum.  This user appeared, then disappeared just as quickly.  The let me say, 'spartan' writing style of our concerned VMX enthusiast, and the subject matter made it very easy to tell who it was.  Even more laughable, his alias made a comeback recently to big note his real self after clearing certain jumps at a certain race meeting....  ::)  Some serious love for oneself there.

If you're not willing to say something when you're identifiable, then don't say it at all!  Go play World of Warcraft or something.
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Post by: mainline on October 08, 2010, 07:08:48 am
I've got sand in my vagina


explains a lot
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Post by: EBT on October 08, 2010, 09:36:00 am

People don't realise how easy it is for an Admin to tell who is using a fake identity.  If Graeme really wanted to, he could name & shame the people doing it.  Your IP address doesn't change when you switch to your fake user,

Yes I have a chuckle at the two name members on my forum, me knowing who they are and them thinking no one knows    ;D  :D  but they dont stir up anything so It does not bother me really. 

Cheers Mick.
Title: Re: Topic: Don't you hate it when somebody just deletes their thread…
Post by: VMX247 on October 08, 2010, 09:46:59 am
[Your IP address doesn't change when you switch to your fake user


Even if the little sh..ts go through hotmail or some other  host  ????

ps during last nights beers and talk fest--Did anyone notice pokey was on here last night  8)  8)  8)
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Post by: NR555 on October 08, 2010, 10:26:44 am
[Your IP address doesn't change when you switch to your fake user


Even if the little sh..ts go through hotmail or some other  host  ????

ps during last nights beers and talk fest--Did anyone notice pokey was on here last night  8)  8)  8)


Doesn't matter which e-mail address you use to create the account, it's the computer you're using when you log in to the forum to post.  So if you're going to do it, drive over to your local internet cafe or library and start your anonymous posting from there!
Title: Re: Topic: Don't you hate it when somebody just deletes their thread…
Post by: VMX247 on October 08, 2010, 10:52:38 am
thanks for that,,,couldnt be bothered  ;D 
anyway ..one of me is enough !!!   ;D   :-\   ;D
Title: Re: Topic: Don't you hate it when somebody just deletes their thread…
Post by: Tim754 on October 08, 2010, 11:40:53 am
Confession Time.  I am a serial editor of my posts. 99.8 % of the time this is to rectify spelling and grammatical erratum . I  do so as I strongly believe the basic idea of others being able to comprehend what waffling bullshit I be spouting. :D Tim754
  Threatening or insulting PM's?  Just cut and past the "entire unretouched"  crap to a thread, I mean the senders must relies they have produced a verifiable document.  ;)
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Post by: vmx42 on October 08, 2010, 11:54:57 am
Confession Time.  I am a serial editor of my posts. 99.8 % of the time this is to rectify spelling and grammatical erratum . I  do so as I strongly believe the basic idea of others being able to comprehend what waffling bullshit I be spouting. :D Tim754

Hey Tim,
I don't think anybody is talking about EDITING your posts. If you stuff up and include typos, or just don't explain yourself as you would wish, then no problem. Fix it!

It is different when somebody drops a trail of bile ridden expletives, leaves them there for a few minutes and then magically removes them and claims that they never existed.

Accuracy is never a problem.
VMX42
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Post by: Captain Bilko on October 08, 2010, 06:14:29 pm
I'm back!!

Sorry about that. I've been waiting up at Bluerock all week for (whoever that guy is from NZ)'s brother to deliver the two uppercuts to me.
Nothing happened??!!  ???

Anywho I've decided to take a bit more pro-active approach on The Forum and not shirk away from the pressing issues so........

1. I've signed up down at Dunkin' Donuts.

2. I've put together a list of reasons why I can't race (sore knee/back/menopause/I'm scared, etc)

3. You boys are totally right. I've been wasting my time on these Montesa's. I need a real popular bike like a Sprite or BSA Bantam or something with an engine out of one bike that was good and put it into another frame and cut and weld and frig arse around untill it ends up as something that's slower and worse handling that what I started out with.

4. I'm going to council people who are feeling a little suicidal. How could giving advice to someone who's ready to top themselves be any different to advising someone who's jetting's a bit out of wack or their front end's plough a bit in the corners? ;)

5. Whenever I'm a bit pissed off with someone I'm gunna threaten' them by sending a family member over to beat them to a pulp (yes cut and pasted safely away by myself and some friends you idiot!)

Yes Sir....

I'm back
I'm wearin' black
My bladder's slack
I'm havin' a Good 'ol Boy
Heart attack


Ha, ha, ha, ha, haaa, ha, haaaaaaaaaa...................
Title: Re: Topic: Don't you hate it when somebody just deletes their thread…
Post by: Davey Crocket on October 08, 2010, 06:34:21 pm
It's like a drug addict....you couldnt not inject yourself with another dose could you....do we need to send the Salvation Army around?.... You started going bad when you started playing with those Yamahahas....stick to the Monty's and you'll come good again ;) ;D ;D
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Post by: oldfart on October 08, 2010, 06:50:34 pm
Back from where  ???
Title: Re: Topic: Don't you hate it when somebody just deletes their thread…
Post by: mainline on October 08, 2010, 07:13:51 pm
Yeah, heart attacks are funny
Title: Re: Topic: Don't you hate it when somebody just deletes their thread…
Post by: SAABCOMBI on October 08, 2010, 07:45:10 pm
WHO WHERE YOU BEFORE YOU CAME BACK  ???