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Marque Remarks => Suzuki => Topic started by: BAHNZY on September 18, 2010, 08:58:29 pm
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Looks like it's time for another project. Picked this one up on flea-bay a couple of months back.
By the photos on the add she looked reasonable but it wasn't quiet the case when she was stripped. Rather than the Ohlin's /WP 84 RM125 that I did last year, this one will be a rider/survivor much like the way she left the factory with 25 years of "easy" riding. Won’t be doing the spokes and plastics nor plating & polishing everything, just fix/repair and clean where needed.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-1/1293707/E-Bay_1.jpg)
Was told that all parts were available. Seller said that it had done a bottom end (which it had) just forgot to say that the bottom end failure was a result of no air filter element being fitted. The only reason the mains and the piston hadn't failed was because the big end seized about 10 nano-seconds before the top end was about to let go.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-1/1293707/E-Bay_2.jpg)
It didn’t hit me straight away, but as I was loading the bike onto the trailer I realised that the swing arm and associated hardware was from an 83 or earlier bike. Although the answer to my questions relating to the suspension said that the bike still had dampening, there was obviously a lack of understanding as to what dampening is because the rear shock was so flogged it can’t be repaired.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-1/1293707/E-Bay_3.jpg)
In a strange twist of fate, all the plastics including the seat were in good condition. A few hours with the wet & dry and plastic polish will see them looking like new. Throw a sticker kit over them and she'll be tip toppity.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-1/1293707/E-Bay_4.jpg)
As it is an 85 model, it has a disc brake fitted. Whilst the bike is a follow on from the 84 model it is Pre85 legal as long as the front end is swapped out for an 84 version. I will leave the disc unit on the bike as it won’t be raced.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-1/1293707/E-Bay_5.jpg)
Seller said that it was on the 1st oversize and that the barrel was in good condition. Only problem is that he was a little careless with storing the barrel and managed to break one of the piston ring retaining posts from the bottom of the barrel.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-1/1293707/E-Bay_6.jpg)
No idea what the muffler is from, but the worst bit is they modified the frame to fit the muffler rather than modifying the muffler to fit the frame. When he handed me the expansion chamber I quickly realised that it wasn’t good. I quick inspection showed a gazillion welds and plates to cover holes and cracks.
So we have a start. I’ll post some photo’s of the other discretions from previous owners like;
- The cases that have been hit with the angle grinder to release a seized swing arm pivot bolt.
- The rear suspension rocker that is totally stuffed as the thru bolt had worn through the bearings then into the alloy casting.
- The flat slide carburettor that has been swapped out for a round slide unit.
- Bad cracks in and around the foot peg attachment area.
- The shock reservoir mounts that are simply missing.
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Nice work Rod,I cant wait to see you restore this poor paddock bashed beast.
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Good luck with this one...I will b watching with interest.
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I like that when you have a seller that says the bottom end has been done and it has.
I have bought a bike with the top end off and was assured the bottom end had been done and it hadn't, but I bought a kx80 for my brother locally and you know how every seller says it has had a new top end it had and I was very happy.
Plastics look good hasn't been in the sun to long at all you should be able to make it look near new again good luck. :)
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Let the fun begin Rod ;)
I like ANY project andwill be watching for the updates
cheers...Mario
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You know BAHNZY I think I,ve bought a Husqvarna version of that bike and I believe that the same guys worked on it. :o
This struck me when you got to the muffler bit.
Mike :)
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And some more pics and sad stories to accompany them;
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-1/1293707/progress_1a.jpg)
Apparently this is how you remove a seized swing arm pivot bolt. Grab an angle grinder and cut a nice clean groove across the case then gently prize open. This along with another issue shown below has the cases heading straight for the scrap bin.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-1/1293707/progress_1b.jpg)
The roller bearing was long gone and the bearing collar had chewed through everything and destroyed the rocker unit. Again another piece heading for the scrap bin.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-1/1293707/progress_1c.jpg)
Have no idea what is going on here. The bolt is seized in that position and I will have to cut it of the case to be able to split the cases.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-1/1293707/progress_1d.jpg)
This is what someone thought was a good idea for a new muffler mount. Not hard to fix but a pain in the arse job that will take time to fabricate a new bracket and weld it to the frame.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-1/1293707/progress_1e.jpg)
One the main problems with these early RM125’s is the small tang that extends down into the crankcase to stop the ring from popping out and catching on the upstroke. I had another barrel provided by C Taylor Esq. that had the same issue and was going to sleeve the barrel and bring it back to standard. By the time I’d bought a sleeve, had it fitted then modified to return it to the same spec as the OEM barrel it was going to cost around $450. Ouch.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-1/1293707/progress_1f.jpg)
Lower mount for the shock canister is missing altogether. Didn’t take a pic of the cracks in the frame around the foot peg mounts but it’s getting close to calling the frame scrap and swapping it out for the 84 frame that I have. Just means that the number sequence won’t match it as an 85.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-1/1293707/progress_1g.jpg)
Picture tells a thousand stories. Can just picture the clowns working out how to fix this is a workshop one night with a six pack of something thinking it would be a good idea. AT least it doesn’t leak so there is one positive to come out of it.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-1/1293707/progress_1h.jpg)
So there is light at the end of the tunnel. Dropped around to see Mario (Monaro308) last weekend and arranged a bit of a barter system on a PE175 basket case. I think I got the better end of the deal (thanks Mario ;)) as the bits that he had were the parts that I desperately needed and the PE was rather sad. If I hadn’t got these parts I was going to ditch the project.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-1/1293707/progress_1i.jpg)
I have a spare swing arm and shocker that are the original parts from my 84 125. They’ll need some work but as the bike will be a sometime race, practice day, HBBB, Classic Dirt bike it needn’t be 100% perfect.
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Plastics look good hasn't been in the sun to long at all you should be able to make it look near new again good luck. :)
Michael,
Plastics are real good, aside from the left side panel, which i have a good spare.
Some work on these will see them come up like new.
The last 84 125 i bought from Ballarat was advertised as having a new top end, which it did have. The bore was fresh and the piston was spanking new except...... The bottom end had let go and the piston smacked the head a million times and was destroyed.
Rod
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Shiny spokes aside, i'll be happy if it comes up looking like this one.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-1/1293707/Sample_Bike.jpg)
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this project sounds exy Bahnsy ::)
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Hoony,
I hoping that i can finish the bike, put in the corner with some growth hormones and steriods and magically in a year or so it might grow into a 500 and i'll get the bike that i so desperatly want but cant afford. ;D
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I think there is about 2 or 3 of us on here with the 84-85 RM125 so if i put the parts on Ebay,i'm sure it would have been you bidding on it Rod.
I'd rather it be of use to you and get another VMX bike back to life than make money on it,just like frosty wouldn't accept money for his PE175 floater muffler (i haven't forgotten Frosty ;) )..what goes around comes around!
Rod,if your swingarm and rocker needs bearings read my RM175 project on the 2nd page.
Keep those pics coming!
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And some more pics and sad stories to accompany them;
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-1/1293707/progress_1d.jpg)
This is what someone thought was a good idea for a new muffler mount. Not hard to fix but a pain in the arse job that will take time to fabricate a new bracket and weld it to the frame.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-1/1293707/progress_1g.jpg)
Picture tells a thousand stories. Can just picture the clowns working out how to fix this is a workshop one night with a six pack of something thinking it would be a good idea. AT least it doesn’t leak so there is one positive to come out of it.
Yep definately the same guys. :)
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At what point do you say 'its farked'? Good luck with it, good old RMs are cool but that one looks like 12 months worth.
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this project sounds exy Bahnsy ::)
YEP, This is the list of parts on order thus far.....
Chain Guide - 61348-14510
Lock Washer - 09167-17002
RH Crank Seal - 09289-28007
LH Crank Seal - 09283-18004
Crank O Ring - 09280-20004
Crank Lock Washer - 09166-12007
Intake Manifold - 13111-14510
Disc Brake Cover - 59231-14500
CDI Protector - 32941-14300
CDI Holder - 32942-14111
Front Number Plate - 94911-00B10-25Y
Tank Holder - 44560-14500
Shock Flap (Protector) - 63112-14500
Rear Guard Protector - 63331-14500
Chain Guide - 61273-14500
Oil Seal - 64845-14100
Shock Canister Buffer - 62423-14500
Canister Grommet - 62423-14510
Canister Cushion - 62331-14502
Canister Holder - 09462-00082-XC0
Cable Holder (Guide) - 58621-14520
Water Pump Seal - 09168-06025
Water Pump Seal - 17470-02F00
Complete Gasket kit
Piston & Ring Kit
Con-Rod Kit
Full engine bearing kit
Full engine seal kit
Clutch Fibre set
Spark Plug and Cap
Throttle Cable & Clutch Cable
Grips & Lever Sets
Kill Switch
Button bend bars
All Bars Swing arm rebuild kit
All Balls Tapered Head Stem Conversion
Front & Rear Sprocket & Chain
Front & Rear Wheel Bearings
Front Brake Pads, Rear Brake Linings
Front & Rear Tyres, Tubes & Rim Locks
Fork Seals & Oil
Rear Shock Seal Head
Twin-Air Air Filter
And it does not include the powdercoating and plating costs. And this is just to bring it back to life!
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At what point do you say 'its farked'? Good luck with it, good old RMs are cool but that one looks like 12 months worth.
I'm going to try real hard to see if i can have it ready for the Honda Bonanza.
One thing i have worked out over the last few years is that the smaller the capacity the more work and cost involved to get it rideable. I put it down to the fact that 125's and to a lesser extent the 250's are used by father/son combinations at the local track and their mates farm and they ride them (cause they can) into the ground then dump them for the next bike. 250's and 500's are simply to much for little Johnny hence they are usually not as flogged as the smaller capacity bikes. Thats my take anyway.
At what point do you say 'its farked'?
For me its about the challenge, although i have given up on one 84 125 before this one and turned it int o a parts bike as it was simply to much work and cost.
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Just a few small points the 'tang' on the bottom of the cylinder is to support the skirt the rings go nowhere near them. I managed to pry apart a set of cases that were seized in the pivot. The trick is when you fell like whacking it really really hard don't walk away and do something else and come back to it after you have calmed dow. Took me the best part of 2 hours with heat, diesel, dolly's an some Bunnings or Super crap 'pry bar set' which made it easy.
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The trick is when you fell like whacking it really really hard don't walk away and do something else and come back to it after you have calmed dow.
So what you are saying Lozza is when I am totally at the end of my tether and about to suffer a serious brainsnap don't walk away and come back to survey the damage after I have calmed down but beat the living shit out of it then and there? hmmm..sounds like my regular method so nothing changes ;D
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;D You got me there Doc my shocking punctuation should have had comma's before and after DON'T ;D
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Just a few small points the 'tang' on the bottom of the cylinder is to support the skirt the rings go nowhere near them.
Lozza,
I have got the same cylinder, with the same problem and as Bahnzy says its a $450 fix. Are there any other options…?
VMX42
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Bahnzy, my brother restored an 85 a couple of years ago, although I don't think his was as close to death as yours. He might have some bits & pieces lying around from when he did his restoration. Give Marty at Krooz Tune a buzz to see if he has anything lying around or some useful contacts.
It turned out to be a very nice little bike. I think the only bit he couldn't find for it was the original graphics kit. Some wanker had a shitfit because he rode it in Pre85 in Viper a couple of years ago and it's never been ridden since (maybe he should have invested in that drum brake)!
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Lozza,
I have got the same cylinder, with the same problem and as Bahnzy says its a $450 fix. Are there any other options…?
VMX42
There would be a few good options. From the obvious machine it off and run it (plenty of cylinders are unsupported there), the bargain basement dowl then JB Weld and hope for the best(though the liners are thin from memory) to taking out the sleeve and finding a 56mm or so piston and nicasil the bore. All of which would be far less than the OTT $450 for a resleeve
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One thing i have worked out over the last few years is that the smaller the capacity the more work and cost involved to get it rideable. I put it down to the fact that 125's and to a lesser extent the 250's are used by father/son combinations at the local track and their mates farm and they ride them (cause they can) into the ground then dump them for the next bike. 250's and 500's are simply to much for little Johnny hence they are usually not as flogged as the smaller capacity bikes. Thats my take anyway.
Exact-a-mondo Barnster, when i bought my 500 (it was very rough, but all there and rideable) i went over everything except engine and went to that ride day in early 2006 at Ravo, the motor was strong so i did 2 seasons on it before i rebuilt it.
it even had barkbusters fitted and the guy i got it off was using it as a trail bike ???, could not think of a worse bike to use as a trail bike ::)
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Project update?
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may be a bit late but i have a spare barrel , it is at 55.5 but may clean up ok, it does not have any thing broken on it. Pm me if you are interested
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The next instalment.
Frame
Gave up on the 85 frame and swapped it out for the 84 frame. The broken, twisted and trashed brackets combined with the rusted lower frame rails was too much to contend with. She's on the way to the powder coaters this weekend.
Suspension
Stripped three shocks and was lucky enough to build (only just) one shock out of them all. New seal head, new bump stop and lots of linishing on the shaft and we are on the way. Swapped the spring out for one that will take something better than a 50kg rider. The front forks have been stripped and cleaned and await re-assembly with fresh oil and seals. I've machined down the steerer tube and fitted taper roller bearings in place of the ball bearing system so where go to go in that area.
Engine
Picked up a genuine Suzuki con rod & main bearing kit via e-bay USA and have them on their way. I have 3 gearboxes to go through and make one good one out of the lot. I just hope that they are all 85 internals as they differ from the 84.
Wheels
Haven't decided where to head with these yet. I am thinking that a strip, clean and polish of the spokes maybe as far as I need to go. The difference between shiny spokes and dull ones is close to a top end in costs so I may just pass on that one.
Plastics
Have de-stickered and cleaned them up now I need to get the wet & dry out and some polish to them. Ordered a new version of radiator shroud stickers that I did for the 84 so that should make them o/k.
Seat
The seat is the “standard” seat from my 84 model as I had a “high” seat made up for it. That seat has a new foam and cover so nothing to do there.
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An update on the 85 125.
I've mocked up the bike with old cases etc and just need to finish off the exhaust hangers and mounts then i can strip and send out for powdercoat. Had planned on doing this a month or so back but run out of time.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-1/1293707/SDC11239.JPG)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-1/1293707/SDC11241.JPG)
Ive heard from Suzuki central in En-Zed that the crank & water pump bits are not far away so time to get cracking on the engine.
If got the cylinder back that Mario gave me and she is now 1.0mm OS with a shiney new Woosner piston. I found that the bike had been messed with in the engine department and had an 84 head on it. This has now been swapped our for the correct 85 head. Ordered and recived a new set of clutch plates and springs. Have got the correct flat slide carb but given the amount of work i've got to decide if i put a new carb on it ir perservere with the old one. This is the engine at the moment.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-1/1293707/SDC11240.JPG)
As far as the parts list, things are looking good. What parts Suzuki had i have now got as well.
Chain Guide - 61348-14510 (o/k)
Lock Washer - 09167-17002 (o/k)
RH Crank Seal - 09289-28007 (o/k)
LH Crank Seal - 09283-18004 (o/k)
Crank O Ring - 09280-20004 (o/k)
Crank Lock Washer - 09166-12007 (o/k)
Intake Manifold - 13111-14510 (o/k)
Disc Brake Cover - 59231-14500 (n/g)
CDI Protector - 32941-14300 (o/k)
CDI Holder - 32942-14111 (o/k)
Front Number Plate - 94911-00B10-25Y (o/k)
Tank Holder - 44560-14500 (o/k)
Shock Flap (Protector) - 63112-14500 (n/g)
Rear Guard Protector - 63331-14500 (n/g)
Chain Guide - 61273-14500 (n/g)
Oil Seal - 64845-14100 (o/k)
Shock Canister Buffer - 62423-14500 (o/k)
Canister Grommet - 62423-14510 (o/k)
Canister Cushion - 62331-14502 (o/k)
Canister Holder - 09462-00082-XC0 (o/k)
Cable Holder (Guide) - 58621-14520 (o/k)
Water Pump Seal - 09168-06025 (ex ebay USA)
Water Pump Seal - 17470-02F00 (ex ebay USA)
Throttle Cable & Clutch Cable (o/k)
Complete Gasket kit (o/k)
Piston & Ring Kit (Woosner)
Con-Rod Kit (ex ebay USA)
Full engine bearing kit (ex ebay USA)
Full engine seal kit (o/k)
Clutch Fibre set (o/k)
Spark Plug and Cap (o/k)
Grips & Lever Sets (o/k)
Kill Switch (o/k)
Button bend bars (o/k)
All Bars Swing arm rebuild kit (o/k, but jeez there exxy)
All Balls Tapered Head Stem Conversion (o/k, but jeez there exxy)
Front & Rear Sprocket & Chain (TBA - Undecided on whether to run a 50 or 52 rear)
Front & Rear Wheel Bearings (o/k)
Front Brake Pads, Rear Brake Linings
Front & Rear Tyres, Tubes & Rim Locks (o/k)
Fork Seals & Oil (o/k)
Rear Shock Seal Head (o/k)
Twin-Air Air Filter (still on back order from Twin-Air)
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better drill some more holes in the airbox bahnsy ;D ;D
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What is it that makes someone think that adding random holes into an airbox will make a difference to the performance of the bike. I'd bet my left one that every one that has ben on evil pay in the last 12 months has been butchered in the same way, albeit with proably less holes.
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Good stuff Rod ;)
You've picked up a few bits by the look of it!
I found the w/pump housing from that engine going through my stuff if you need it.
Are you on holidays? I am at the moment.
cheers...mario
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This is how bored i am at the moment. Sat down in front of the TV with the cricket and fixed the radiaors. No more liquid cooled old girls from here on in. Think I'll stick with the air cooled stuff.
BEFORE
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-1/1293707/SDC11243.JPG)
AFTER
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at least you can hold the radiator up in front of the tv so you don't have to watch the disaster continue to unfold
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Bahnzy - back in the day one of the cheap hot mods as recommended by MXA magazine you beaut testers :o for the RM250Z was to open the airbox for more flow as apparently it was choked???? Surely to god you aren't questioning this are you ;D
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this project sounds exy Bahnsy ::)
Hoony,
Got me thinking that as i re-build it from the frame up ill see what its gunna cost. This will be good for me as it might be the medicine i need to stop buying and re-building these shitboxes.
So here goes.
The Frame
With all the debate on about Paint or Powder coat I elected to go with sandblast and then paint the frame. Used an etch prime and off the shelf blue. It’s not a concourse resto, rather a re-build so close enough in the colour department is good enough. The frame also needed some tig welding to tidy up some cracked brackets and a small crack in the footpeg area.
Blasting – A barter style favour, although I’d spent $50 doing a clutch slave cyl for him, so $50
Paint - $44.00
Welding – 6 pack of arseholes ($25)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-1/1293707/SDC11283_small.jpg)
The Wheels
Blasted the hubs with a small cabinet that we have at work then painted them in Galmet Satin Black and baked them in a pie warmer. The satin black looks like the factory finish and that Galmet paint seems pretty durable. One by one the spokes were removed, cleaned & polished, they have come up o/k but nothing like new or replated items. The rims were cleaned up and everything was refitted and trued. Tyres will be new Bridgestone intermediates along with new tubes and rim locks. $’s aren’t that big but the time to delace, clean and relace 72 spokes is massive.
Tyres – Fr $95 Rr $110, Tubes $30, Rim locks and rim tape $50
Wheel Bearings - $35
Satin black Paint - $22
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-1/1293707/SDC11284_small.jpg)
Rear Shock
Three shocks to make one good one. This early alloy bodied stuff is a pain in the arse. In the end we have a reasonable shock.
Rebuild with new shock bump stop & C/O spring - $280
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-1/1293707/SDC11285_small.jpg)
Radiators
Hours of work here, but worth the result. After I straitened them they were sent out for a small alloy repair where the clutch cable had chaffed through the left side one then I had them both pressure tested. When returned they were given a coat of heat proof matt black.
Radiator Repair - $40
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-1/1293707/SDC11286_small.jpg)
Engine Spares Order
The big ticket items are here.
Genuine rod, thrust washers, big & small end bearings & main bearings - $150 (e-bay special)
Complete water pump seal and bearing kit - $145
Gaskets (New & non genuine) - $55
Gearbox bearings and oil seals - $ 58
Woosner Piston, and rebore - $120
Coolant, gearbox oil, spark plug and Twin Air Filter Element $54
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-1/1293707/SDC11287_small.jpg)
So there we have instalment one in the re-build.
$’s so far - $1283 (I’m starting to think this isn’t a good idea)
Note: If I had replaced the spokes and the rims there would have been another $300 in spokes and $450 or thereabouts in rims.
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Good work Rodney,its going to come up a treat!
I am over in Melbourne last week of Feb,hope to see her fully assembled.
Might bring a present for its christening......
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Well I got the bike to Broadford for the Bonanza and after a Bumper cut couple of laps of the track and we did some re-jetting we had to park it as the carbie slide was sticking (just off idle) and it became too much work to fix when we really didn’t have the correct tools and there was riding to be done. So here’s the wash-up of the project.
Original e-bay bike - $500
Front tyre/rimlock/tube/rim tape - $150
Rear tyre/rimlock/tube/rim tape - $165
Front & rear wheel bearings - $40
Tag Bars/grips, Levers etc - $100
Clutch & accell cables - $65
Chain buffer/chain guide/chain roller - $80
Front/rear sprocket & chain - $160
Seat recover - $120
Piston/rebore - $160
Gasket sets/bearings/seals/rod & associated engine parts - $500
Carbie needle jet/needle and return spring - $60
Air filter - $35
Exhaust bits and repairs - $50
Genuine Suzuki bits. CDI holder and damper, shock canister support & bands - $40
Rear shock overhaul - $280
Front fork service - $60
Swing arm bearings, rocker bearings, strut bearings - $220
Front brake pads & rear linings - $65
Various bits & pieces. Paint, Sandblasting, plating, nuts/bolts, Kill switch, etc, etc - $200 (Guess)
So there you go, somewhere around $3K with most of the work being done by myself.
Within this refurbishment there are/is;
- No spokes being replaced (I de-laced the wheels and polished the spokes)
- No rim replacement, If you were doing those than you’d automatically add another $800.
- No powder coating of the frame. It was blasted &checked for cracks, repaired where required and attacked with a pressure pack.
- No plastics (front no plate aside) as the plastics on the bike were ½ reasonable. Lots of sanding and polishing!
Have a few things to go yet.
- The sticker kit that was ordered and didn’t turn up in time for Broadford.
- When I find a reasonably priced parts l’ll get the genuine shock protector that fits to the upright struts and the rubber piece that seals around the frame/air box/rocker assembly.
- The Harley Davidson fork wipers that Gazza put me on to.
- I’ll keep a lookout for a better air box cover to replace the modified for 50% more HP unit that is currently fitted
- and think about DG pipe if I can be bothered dropping by the boys at DG when I’m in LA later this year.
A big thanks to Mario for the engine parts, to Doc for the advice and assistance & Bumper McGunn (the 4 stroke bum) for pretty much anything & everything.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-1/1293707/85_RM125_1.jpg)
An older brother to;
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Too bad about the carb Rod but i'll get some pics out to you when i see you.
cheers...mario
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Well done Bahnzy! Great to see another of my favorite Suzuki's brought back to life!!
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missed you somehow on Saturday Bahnsy, bike looks great.
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I think we all would have walked past each other and never knew as i missed the GMC meet and greet.
Hoony,what #s were on your bike and what bike/s were they....i might have a pic of those red things :D from this year and maybe last year.
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I think we all would have walked past each other and never knew as i missed the GMC meet and greet.
Hoony,what #s were on your bike and what bike/s were they....i might have a pic of those red things :D from this year and maybe last year.
I made the GMC meet and greet and most probably did pass you Monaro and not know, i was on there Saturday only and my bike was a 1985 watercooled CR500 #32, my white rodeo Ute with canopy was parked in the lower pit area near the great Suzuki collection of BearVMX and the Immaculate 1981 CR125,250,450 and Mugen ME460 collection. and yes would love any pics of those "Red Things" :D if you have them.