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Marque Remarks => British (BSA, Greeves, Triumph etc) => Topic started by: shorelinemc on September 06, 2010, 03:53:58 pm

Title: greeves griffin
Post by: shorelinemc on September 06, 2010, 03:53:58 pm
greeves griffin 250.380 any good ?collectable,racable have chance to buy them if any intrest
Title: Re: greeves griffin
Post by: Gippslander on September 07, 2010, 11:58:50 pm
Sorry I know I'm from down South  ;D -- but are you buyin or are you selling?
Title: Re: greeves griffin
Post by: mx250 on September 08, 2010, 06:06:17 am
greeves griffin 250.380 any good ?collectable,racable have chance to buy them if any intrest
I would say yes to all of the above - but very specialised and very limited.
Title: Re: greeves griffin
Post by: Allbrit on September 08, 2010, 10:15:56 am
The Griffon is quite a specialised machine.

The Greeves Owners Club of the UK have a good website which is www.greeves-riders.org.au

If you decide not to go ahead please pass the sellers information to me.
Title: Re: greeves griffin
Post by: shorelinemc on September 08, 2010, 10:30:10 am
i would be selling guessing they would be 3000 ea by the time they get here
Title: Re: greeves griffin
Post by: firko on September 08, 2010, 10:48:25 am
I remember racing a friends Griffon 380 at Dargle back in the early 90s and being pleasantly surprised at how well it went.
Prior to that ride I'd dismissed the Greeves as old fashioned Pom rubbish but that particular bike (A USA import with Villiers Starmaker engine w/ aftermarket reeds) hooted and seemed to handle almost as well as my Maico.
Title: Re: greeves griffin
Post by: jimg1au on September 08, 2010, 11:14:41 am
http://www.vintagemx.us/cgi-bin/largephoto.cgi?C=mSaU62A6qsPpooqx

http://www.vintagemx.us/cgi-bin/largephoto.cgi?C=o1dWgDvGsbuUWtQA

http://www.vintagemx.us/cgi-bin/largephoto.cgi?C=D6woA1z79qvz8K1E

http://www.vintagemx.us/cgi-bin/largephoto.cgi?C=S4JzJYfVSyDXmNR6

this guy always sells off marks swap meet he has some bikes i think he also has rh suzikis

at 3000.00 aus that bike is a good price i couldnt get it here much under that
Title: Re: greeves griffin
Post by: VMX247 on September 08, 2010, 12:23:38 pm
Good to see you here again Allbrit  8)

Two riders here can confirm they go like the power of................
Perhaps another bike that's over looked for the more modern bikes.
http://ozvmx.com/community/index.php?topic=14776.0

The bike below was initially set up for enduro's.That's about all I know.
When you retire you have time to dabble.A very nice bike indeed. :-*

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/vmx247/shedgreeves001-1.jpg)
Title: Re: greeves griffin
Post by: firko on September 11, 2010, 10:19:04 am
I realise that Jim has posted this bike above but I had to comment on such a sleeper, going for way below what it would have a year ago. Dave Tellez has some very tasty bikes which he sometimes turns over. Most (all?) of his bikes are rare and good quality and this Griffon looks the goods. You've gotta love a good dose of Metalflake to bring back that wonderful sixties/seventies vibe. Non Greeves folks might think this is a custom paint job but unbelievably, this is how they came from the factory, pretty freaky for such a conservative old British company as Greeves was. Not sure if it's a 250 or a 380 but $1400 US is a steal for such a cherry example of what was a much better model than most people think.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/greeves.jpg)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/greeves%202.jpg)
FOR SALE
Ad # 3158757   September 9, 2010
Greeves Griffon, low hour bike still has original Dunlop tires, i put a NOS gas tank on it, easy restoration or ride as is. Asking $1400.00.
       David Tellez
Thousand Oaks, CA
Phone: 661-904-5093 | Email
Registered Since 10/25/2007 | 301 Posts   
Title: Re: greeves griffin
Post by: JC on September 11, 2010, 10:45:48 am
Yeh, I always tho't the Griffons were pretty decent too - tho w telscopics, not the bananas.

I remember Mal McNought going very well on a 380 at my local track circa 71 when I was about 13.

They came out in 69 so they should be pre70 legal. (Are they? Or have I opened another can of worms?) In that class they should be very competitive.

I actually acquired a pair of metalflake red Griffon sidecovers somewhere along the way, if anybody's interested
Title: Re: greeves griffin
Post by: mx250 on September 11, 2010, 11:39:21 am
Was it Trevor Gunter, older brother of Tony, who raced Greeves with some success in the early 70's?
Title: Re: greeves griffin
Post by: jimg1au on September 11, 2010, 12:05:34 pm
i have been emailing this guy about the greeves he will only ship in 1 peice i need it in boxes he wont do that.o well there will be more later
jim
Title: Re: greeves griffin
Post by: firko on September 11, 2010, 12:13:01 pm
Quote
Was it Trevor Gunter, older brother of Tony, who raced Greeves with some success in the early 70's?
Terry Gunter did pretty well on Greeves back then. He was the king of Mt Kembla back then, before Anthony was old enough to race.
Title: Re: greeves griffin
Post by: Barclay on September 11, 2010, 02:11:30 pm
while on the subject of Griffins ,how do you identify model year and cc of these pommy beasts .
They are a bit of a unknown to us ,all I know is BSW spanners and sockets are a bitch to find .
Ive got one very similar to the blue metal flake bike ,the tank is taller ,seat thicker ,telly forks and twin air cleaners .
was lead to beleive it is a 250 around 66 mod .I will try for a pic .
I was going to start a quick resto soon .but all that polished ally looks great so it may be a dragged out ordeal.    Cheers Boots
Title: Re: greeves griffin
Post by: firko on September 11, 2010, 02:19:56 pm
Post picture of your Greeves Boots so we can get an idea of what you've got.
Title: Re: greeves griffin
Post by: 211kawasaki on October 06, 2010, 10:28:33 am
I can just feel the anxiety from Melbourne  ;D
Title: Re: greeves griffin
Post by: Hoony on October 06, 2010, 10:30:41 pm
Quote
Was it Trevor Gunter, older brother of Tony, who raced Greeves with some success in the early 70's?
Terry Gunter did pretty well on Greeves back then. He was the king of Mt Kembla back then, before Anthony was old enough to race.

Terry went on to Race sidecar MX in the 80's, did a few meetings in Vicco.
Title: Re: greeves griffin
Post by: Dinsdale on October 24, 2010, 07:36:51 am
I raced a 1972 Griffon 250 with the alloy tank back in the 70's, my brother had an earlier one with glassfibre tank. A mate had a 360 with glass tank. The 250's had a single exhaust port, but as I remember the 360's and 380's had twin exhaust ports. They were all descent bikes in their day but by the mid-late 70's were becoming outdated by just about everything else. Can't remember when they finished producing but hope that helps.
Title: Re: greeves griffin
Post by: Tim754 on October 24, 2010, 07:22:03 pm
 The Dinsdales racing at Christmas Hill . I remember that! :)  Ron Dinsdale was this lads favourite solo racer.  :) Unfortunately I lost program of races from that era with your names and machines listed in a fire. Tim754
Title: Re: greeves griffin
Post by: Dinsdale on October 26, 2010, 06:28:20 am
Hi Tim, sorry to hear you lost youre stuff like that. Sorry also to disappoint you when I say I aint the Dinsdale you thought I was. I imagine youre thinking of Australian legend Ron Dinsdale. I just happen to be a pommy who the kids at school nicknamed Dinsdale and rode a Greeves in the 70's. Hell of a coincidence I agree, two blokes half a world apart going by the same handle riding  similar bikes, but there the coincidence stops I'm afraid cos I probably spent as much time on my ear as he did in the saddle! Never mind, we still had a lot of fun. Take care mate.     
Title: Re: greeves griffin
Post by: Tim754 on October 26, 2010, 10:35:00 pm
 :D Cheers mate! Your an honest sport ;)
Title: Re: greeves griffin
Post by: mainline on October 26, 2010, 11:49:44 pm
I just happen to be a pommy who the kids at school nicknamed Dinsdale...      

wasn't a Python reference was it?
Title: Re: greeves griffin
Post by: Dinsdale on October 27, 2010, 05:48:10 am
Yea, being called Doug and growing up in the 70's, it was bound to happen!
Title: Re: greeves griffin
Post by: mainline on October 27, 2010, 07:31:42 pm
at least the kids in the 70's had some class, these days you'd get called something really clever like 'Dougy' ;D

That Python sketch would be one of my all time favourites. I'm assuming you use all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor, bathos, puns, parody, litotes and... satire, at every opportunity?
Title: Re: greeves griffin
Post by: VMX247 on November 30, 2011, 02:17:38 pm
I raced a 1972 Griffon 250 with the alloy tank back in the 70's
Can't remember when they finished producing.

http://motocrossactionmag.com/Main/News/CLASSIC-MOTOCROSS-IRON-1969-GREEVES-GRIFFON-380-8388.aspx
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/vmx247/greevesgriffon.jpg)
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/vmx247/greevesgriffontwo.jpg)
Title: Re: greeves griffin
Post by: VMX247 on April 21, 2012, 08:48:36 pm
The Griffon is quite a specialised machine.
The Greeves Owners Club of the UK have a good website which is www.greeves-riders.org.au
If you decide not to go ahead please pass the sellers information to me.

Any Greeve's frame number would greatly be appreciated,if you could send to the greeves website as many frame number where lost and only UK numbers saved..export market unkown..
cheers
Title: Re: greeves griffin
Post by: albrid-3 on April 21, 2012, 10:04:10 pm
Alison
The best people to help you out with number and they are Ross Martin, Rod McDonald, Ray Akins, Bernard Andivon. or Wayne Beanie.
Title: Re: greeves griffin
Post by: VMX247 on July 25, 2012, 11:55:54 am
Rod McDonald,

Apparently this is the fellow that is corresponding with Aust frame and engine #'s for the UK inventory.
Thanks anyway !!
Title: Re: greeves griffin
Post by: riflegreen on July 26, 2012, 12:42:57 am
Greeves frame numbers here .

http://www.greeves-riders.org.uk/identify

Chris
Title: Re: greeves griffin
Post by: hagon_84 on November 29, 2012, 09:23:04 pm
my ol man has gunthers old qub 380 griffon he used to race at amaroo nepean and alot of other place in the early 90's vintage meets firko would remember it for sure standard they put out 46bhp but he had it so well tuned and balanced on gas it would put out 50bhp fastest bike on the track beat any 440 maico just didn't handle as well only downfall with them but they are a weapon so good that suzuki copied alot of they porting design and other bits for the rn or rh was one of them  ;)