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Title: Still looking for Mr MOTOCROSS ...
Post by: Doggy Digger on August 13, 2010, 10:44:25 pm
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Title: Re: Still looking for Mr MOTOCROSS ...
Post by: TT on August 13, 2010, 11:04:49 pm
You been drinkin' Mr. Digger???
If not, maybe you should start...........  :D :D

btw How did Ele get a mention in Mr. Motocross???
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Post by: LWC82PE on August 14, 2010, 12:34:16 am
There are some pretty funny pics here!
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Post by: mainline on August 14, 2010, 07:26:35 am
disturbing, yet very entertaining.....
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Post by: Canam370 on August 14, 2010, 07:49:19 am
Love the little BSA engine! Its a 3 port usb hub and it vibrates,makes revving sounds and jumps around when you plug it into the computer. It also carries on when you operate the kickstart and gear levers.......the downside is it leaves simulated oil drops on your mousepad :-\
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Post by: DR on August 14, 2010, 08:17:45 am
dunno about Mr Motocross but I did spot the first lady of Oz MX, Elle Knowles in that lot ;D
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Post by: firko on August 14, 2010, 09:39:47 am
 Roger's now sadly out of print two original 'Skidmarks' books are loaded with bizarre and provocative images like those shown above. To me Rogers cartoon art combines the wit and originality of Michael Leunig and Robert Crumb with the gonzo perspective of Hunter.S.Thompson. Roger Harvey's a genuine National Art Treasure. 8)
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Post by: Slakewell on August 14, 2010, 11:40:11 am
I have a great arty shot of my Mr Motorcross trophy I will post it up later.
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Post by: VMX247 on August 14, 2010, 01:17:38 pm
Here's a few doggy digger-strapping young lads  8) stolen off facebook  :-X

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Title: Re: Still looking for Mr MOTOCROSS ...
Post by: xu15000 on August 14, 2010, 08:52:33 pm
Here are some pics
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Anthony Gunters bikes
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Trevor Willams works kx
(http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv315/xu15000/TrevorwillansKXworksbike001.jpg)

Steve Galls bikes
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Title: Re: Still looking for Mr MOTOCROSS ...
Post by: JohnnyO on August 14, 2010, 09:30:15 pm
XU1 where were those pics taken?
I'd like to know where that works big bore SR Kawasaki of Williams ended up..?
Title: Re: Still looking for Mr MOTOCROSS ...
Post by: motomaniac on August 14, 2010, 09:55:12 pm
XU1 where were those pics taken?
I'd like to know where that works big bore SR Kawasaki of Williams ended up..?

Its Broadford.

There was a story going around down here about some guy calling Doyle and Shields in Bairsdale for some piston and rings for a 380KX ? The young parts kid laughed it of and told the guy that there is no such bike . End of call. Later he relayed the call to the Boss , who said what??? well did you take his number??? No !!!!
Never heard anymore.
Title: Re: Still looking for Mr MOTOCROSS ...
Post by: GMC on August 14, 2010, 10:17:54 pm
I did some repair work on an SR 380 frame some time back, it may have been the same one.
Title: Re: Still looking for Mr MOTOCROSS ...
Post by: JohnnyO on August 14, 2010, 10:22:53 pm
XU1 where were those pics taken?
I'd like to know where that works big bore SR Kawasaki of Williams ended up..?

Its Broadford.

There was a story going around down here about some guy calling Doyle and Shields in Bairsdale for some piston and rings for a 380KX ? The young parts kid laughed it of and told the guy that there is no such bike . End of call. Later he relayed the call to the Boss , who said what??? well did you take his number??? No !!!!
Never heard anymore.
It must be around somewhere then.. probably sitting in someones shed unaware of what he's got.
I bought my '75 RH250 like that from some guy who thought it was an old Ag bike for $600!
Would love to find that SR.
Thought that may have been Broadford but looked too rocky.
Title: Re: Still looking for Mr MOTOCROSS ...
Post by: motomaniac on August 14, 2010, 10:49:41 pm
I did some repair work on an SR 380 frame some time back, it may have been the same one.

If that was for Elvis Geoff then that was a different bike .
Title: Re: Still looking for Mr MOTOCROSS ...
Post by: motomaniac on August 14, 2010, 10:59:18 pm

It must be around somewhere then.. probably sitting in someones shed unaware of what he's got.
I bought my '75 RH250 like that from some guy who thought it was an old Ag bike for $600!
Would love to find that SR.
Thought that may have been Broadford but looked too rocky.
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Thats how Broadford was in the beginning in its original layout. Later the layout changed and changed  and soil's been brought in over the years several times.

Good find the RH! do you know the bikes history? A friend of mine had one which he kept racing until the 78 Hondas can out.It was fast.
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Post by: JohnnyO on August 14, 2010, 11:19:29 pm
No i don't know it's history but pretty sure it was a local Qld bike and i found it in Caboolture a few years back.
They were a very fast engine for the day. I've never used it cos it's in no mans land being a '75 model.
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Post by: All Things 414 on August 15, 2010, 06:03:49 am
Didn't Holeshot have a pic off it (later one) on the Ning site?
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Post by: holeshot buddy on August 15, 2010, 07:47:13 pm
yes i have a lot of piccys of the sr380 :o
its now in darwin and the frame repair gmc done was off that bike
very trick bit of gear has weinart written on bars and under seat
trevor williams and anthony gunter still have there old sr500gp bikes
and the spare one is in qld with a collector along with trevors 440 8)
i might have put johhny o rh250 pic on my ning site as well
the sr380 had sandcast hubs and engine and billet everything
with lots of titanium  mmmmmm nice :P
Title: Re: Still looking for Mr MOTOCROSS ...
Post by: Doggy Digger on August 15, 2010, 09:40:17 pm
About four years ago, I saw a 380 KX at the shed of Elvis, in Upper Pakenham.   He said it took him several years of hanging around a town in Gippsland, asking around in pubs etc ... to track this bike down (as he had a really strong feeling it still existed).   Elvis eventually found it.  Turns out the guy that had it; he didn't know what it was worth.  Elvis finally got his prized bike.

We were standing there, and Elvis told me it used to be Weinert's.   Well, it's a long way from the USA to a small country town in the hills of Victoria, so I thought to myself "bullSHIT".
And I said: "How the hell can you know where this thing came from?"

He pointed to the bars, which - lo and behold - had Weinert's name centrepunched into them.  Elvis then unbolted the seat.   On its underside, words had been melted into the base with hotwire or similar.   I think it said something like Jammer Weinert.
You coulda knocked me down with a feather.
There were approx. 100 bikes in Elvis's shed.   Plus collectable cars, pinball machines, BMXs and steel tonka toy trucks.   (You name it; it was in there ...)

Elvis, Drakey and I then went inside his home for a cuppa, which was as neat as a pin.   There was not one sign or evidence in the whole house of any automotive interest - or masculine influence - whatsoever.
I said: "Elvis, it doesn't look like you even live in this place."

He took us into the main bedroom, and slid a small cardboard box out from under the bed.  (I think there may have been bike mags in it)
Elvis said:  "See this box?  ... I'm allowed to put anything in here I want."
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I never forgot the sight of those inscribed bars and seat base.   I kinda figured they were named, as each team rider probably had personal preferences in the bum and hand areas ...
Title: Re: Still looking for Mr MOTOCROSS ...
Post by: JohnnyO on August 15, 2010, 09:50:28 pm
Would that be the one and only same bike that Trevor Williams rode?
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Post by: brent j on August 15, 2010, 09:57:03 pm
He took us into the main bedroom, and slid a small cardboard box out from under the bed.  (I think there may have been bike mags in it)
Elvis said:  "See this box?  ... I'm allowed to put anything in here I want!"

I laughed so much when I read this that my wife came to see what the fuss was about, she read it and now wants to meet Elvis's wife. She wants to know how she does it! :o
Title: Re: Still looking for Mr MOTOCROSS ...
Post by: LWC82PE on August 15, 2010, 10:11:27 pm
(http://vintageworksbikes.com/sitebuilder/images/DSC00017-890x543.jpg)

http://vintageworksbikes.com/1978SR380.html
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Post by: JohnnyO on August 15, 2010, 10:23:02 pm
(http://vintageworksbikes.com/sitebuilder/images/DSC00017-890x543.jpg)

http://vintageworksbikes.com/1978SR380.html
There are some great Kawasaki works bikes on that site.
Title: Re: Still looking for Mr MOTOCROSS ...
Post by: Hoony on August 16, 2010, 04:21:01 am
dunno about Mr Motocross but I did spot the first lady of Oz MX, Elle Knowles in that lot ;D

just out of interest, which one is Elle?
Title: Re: Still looking for Mr MOTOCROSS ...
Post by: JohnnyO on August 16, 2010, 07:56:32 am
dunno about Mr Motocross but I did spot the first lady of Oz MX, Elle Knowles in that lot ;D

just out of interest, which one is Elle?
She is the one wearing the motostar helmet with Ele written across the front and a Maico sticker on the top. ;)
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Post by: HL400 on August 16, 2010, 11:35:29 am
Yep it was Trevor's old bike and he sold it to Larry Gray  from Mallacoota, with a heap of new old parts.
Larry raced it in the Gippsland centre for a few years then sold it cheep as it was just another bike to him, on speeking to him a few months ago   (as I was trying to find it my self)  he said he was a god dam fool. Lets hope we see it on the track again not stuck in a sheed.  HL
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Post by: pirie593 on August 16, 2010, 12:15:54 pm
dunno about Mr Motocross but I did spot the first lady of Oz MX, Elle Knowles in that lot ;D

"First Lady" Doc?  What about Dianne Mizon from the early 70's?
Title: Re: Still looking for Mr MOTOCROSS ...
Post by: firko on August 16, 2010, 02:02:10 pm
Is the ex Weinert KX"380" the bike that Graeme Smythe rode in the '75 Mr Motocross series? If so, many of the gearbox internals and othe bits were made by Frank Stanborough when he ran the Amco Kawasaki team. He has fond memories of that particular ex Weinert bike. So do I.
Title: Re: Still looking for Mr MOTOCROSS ...
Post by: Doggy Digger on August 16, 2010, 03:05:46 pm
Mark Hill ... 1980 at Broadford, in the rain.    RM465X.   This had a works kit.   (Suzuki's answer at the time to combat works bikes)   It consisted of hand made pipe and muffler, front forks and rear shocks.   Hill had kits on all three bikes: 125,250,465.   The 125 also came with different ignition.   He still has the 125 pipe and the 465 muffler.
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Title: Re: Still looking for Mr MOTOCROSS ...
Post by: motomaniac on August 16, 2010, 07:51:36 pm
Is the ex Weinert KX"380" the bike that Graeme Smythe rode in the '75 Mr Motocross series? If so, many of the gearbox internals and othe bits were made by Frank Stanborough when he ran the Amco Kawasaki team. He has fond memories of that particular ex Weinert bike. So do I.

No Firko it was a later model ,"A5" style works bike that came here late 78 or 79 . I think he first rode it at Wallan .I have film of it somewhere.
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Post by: Hoony on August 16, 2010, 07:55:19 pm
isn't it great that a few works bikes are in the land of OZ !
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Post by: JohnnyO on August 16, 2010, 07:57:42 pm
isn't it great that a few works bikes are in the land of OZ !
There's quite a few stashed in garages around the country.
Most of the ones that raced here in the 70's and 80's have been sold to overseas buyers unfortunately.
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Post by: Hoony on August 16, 2010, 08:00:59 pm
still can't believe Gally parted with his OW51 a few years back.
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Post by: JohnnyO on August 16, 2010, 08:04:55 pm
I think he's kicking himself now..
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Post by: Hoony on August 16, 2010, 08:07:25 pm
yeah, considering he owned it since 1981, could not understand why he would sell it after 25+ years ???
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Post by: JohnnyO on August 16, 2010, 08:10:42 pm
And it's not like he sold it for the money cos it went very cheap!
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Post by: holeshot buddy on August 16, 2010, 08:43:24 pm
i am pretty sure that ow is still in oz 8)
graeme smythe works kawasaki sr450 and sr250 are in the us
all 3 kawasaki sr500 are in oz
and both of trevor williams sr440s are here too
not too many more works bikes came too australia for riders
even leisks and goofs bikes were production modified (lots) ;D
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Post by: BAHNZY on August 16, 2010, 08:51:18 pm
My understanding of the OW51 is that it is in Melbourne, Australia.
Steve still owns his original 465, albeit sitting in the museum in NABIAC.
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Post by: JohnnyO on August 16, 2010, 08:57:37 pm
Didn't the OW get sold on from Melbourne to Darwin or O/S.
Klitland, Landman and Gall all had works Yamaha's in the 70's.. where did they go?
That 465 in Nabiac is in pretty ratty condition now.
Title: Re: Still looking for Mr MOTOCROSS ...
Post by: motomaniac on August 16, 2010, 09:33:25 pm
Didn't the OW get sold on from Melbourne to Darwin or O/S.
Klitland, Landman and Gall all had works Yamaha's in the 70's.. where did they go?
That 465 in Nabiac is in pretty ratty condition now.


Its still in Vic as far as I know . The 2 kaws that Elvis ahd went interstate but not the OW.
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Post by: BAHNZY on August 16, 2010, 09:38:07 pm
I know the owner post Elvis (although not personally) and he is not the sort of person to move on such a machine. He was after that bike for a long time and i won't will part with it just for $'s
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Post by: JohnnyO on August 16, 2010, 09:40:50 pm
Apparently there were enough parts with that OW to build a second bike.. is that still the case?
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Post by: motomaniac on August 16, 2010, 10:11:44 pm
I know the owner post Elvis (although not personally) and he is not the sort of person to move on such a machine. He was after that bike for a long time and i won't will part with it just for $'s

Thats right , he wanted it and doesn't need the bucks.
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Post by: firko on August 16, 2010, 10:27:20 pm
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graeme smythe works kawasaki sr450 and sr250 are in the us
I thought that one SR left the country and the other is still here...not sure which is where though. When Alan Tomkins owned them he offered them too me for a ridiculous figure..I think it was 7k for the pair but I took too long trying to raise the readies and missed out. That's probably the subliminal reason I try not to let the rare ones go any more.

It was an 1975 SR400 Rusty, not a 450, the 400 was a cool bike but it was the 250 that had all of the real exotica. It had JW written under the seat and stamped on the triple clamps. I don't think the 400 had Weinert connections,I was told by the actual guy who prepared it for Smythe that it had been used by a Japanese works development rider in the All Japan series but it was a better story to give it Weinert connections like the 250 so the myth grew to become "the true story".

At the same time Per Klitland had left Maico and was riding an OW26 Yamaha in the Mr Motocross Series. The bike later went to Mike Landman and after that disappeared for years but was recently uncovered as a basket case by a friend who's restoring it. The big problem was that the original magnesium OW cases had long ago died but perseverance paid off and a complete OW26 engine has been found and purchased from Holland.
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Post by: JohnnyO on August 16, 2010, 10:45:19 pm
Yeah Firko they're both in the US now with the owner of Nightmare Racing i think. Originally one went to England and eventually ended up in the US.
I remember when they were for sale for 6 or 7k, seemed like a lot of money at the time.
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Post by: Stan S on August 16, 2010, 10:51:58 pm
Yeah Firko they're both in the US now with the owner of Nightmare Racing i think. Originally one went to England and eventually ended up in the US.
I remember when they were for sale for 6 or 7k, seemed like a lot of money at the time.

I was also offered these two SR's at the time By Alan but couldn't come up with the cash. I think I still have the photo's he sent me of them somewhere.

Stan
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Post by: Hoony on August 16, 2010, 11:02:02 pm
.................................... The big problem was that the original magnesium OW cases had long ago died but perseverance paid off and a complete OW26 engine has been found and purchased from Holland.


your kidding, how about that.  :o
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Post by: Rosco on January 25, 2017, 05:32:20 pm
Hi guys just wanted to inform you Im the Proud New Owner of Ex Jimmy Weirnert's 1978 Factory SR380KX,that was shipped here by Kawasaki Australia for Trev Williams to have a Open Bike in Mr MX.

I rang Trev to confirm and he said there was only ever 2 made and the other is in Canada as far as he can remember.

He said it came for sale once and missed it by 5 mins and was spewing.

It still has Wiernet stamped on the handle bars and under the seat, Trev said Jimmy hated that bike, when they got it here they put a longer Swingarm on it for MX and the Motor was a weapon.

Its been under long resto, and has only a few things to finish like wheels e.tc, all the main stuff engine, frame, cosmetics is done, cant wait to finish it.

Its going to make a great edition to my MX, Off-Road, Dakar Museum, Trev will launch the bike and sign it for me and another piece of our great MX History saved from the scrap heap.

Stay Safe Rosco
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Post by: Hoony on January 25, 2017, 06:01:15 pm
any pics rosco ?
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Post by: Slakewell on January 25, 2017, 07:52:50 pm
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Post by: Slakewell on January 25, 2017, 07:55:41 pm
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