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Title: CDI Unit for 1976 YZ250C Wanted
Post by: mudguard on June 17, 2010, 08:46:48 pm
Hi,
Has anyone got a spare CDI Unit to suit a 1976 Yamaha YZ250C that they might want to part with? (Died at CD7)  :(
Or does anyone know if, or where, these units can be rebuilt, and what price?
It is a HITACHI CDI, type TIA01, 06 - 501.  Last three numbers starting with 4-- will also work.
Need one by end of this month. PM me with a price if you have one available
Thanks,
Wayne.
Title: Re: CDI Unit for 1976 YZ250C Wanted
Post by: Ji Gantor on June 17, 2010, 08:58:51 pm
Hi Mudguard,
A mudguard by definition is roungh on the bottom and shiny on top.
I hope I got that right.

Pitty Brian did not want to sell that one he had.

Tight nuts

Ji
Title: Re: CDI Unit for 1976 YZ250C Wanted
Post by: mudguard on June 17, 2010, 09:27:32 pm
Hey Ji,
Your being polite!  Shiny on top and s#!t underneath.
Might have to waive some $$ in front of Brian's eyes to see if he will part with it.
Tighten those nuts,
Mudguard.
Title: Re: CDI Unit for 1976 YZ250C Wanted
Post by: Freakshow on June 17, 2010, 09:38:37 pm
Speak to steve warne at betta bikes here in SA, he rewires them and i also think he has spare units/changovers on the shelf.  or he used to have before the divorce.

Betta Bikes
8384 3550
Motorcyle Electrical Services
 
Title: Re: CDI Unit for 1976 YZ250C Wanted
Post by: Rossvickicampbell on June 17, 2010, 09:42:46 pm
is there a PVL for this model?
Title: Re: CDI Unit for 1976 YZ250C Wanted
Post by: Freakshow on June 17, 2010, 09:49:58 pm
YEs there is a PVl for everything :O)
401 and 402 coil and BOx, will need a NR 1058 or 59 stator, standard PVL rotor should fit it. and away it gooooes

i previoulsy checked this one out but he wanst sure of the rotor number but it should be a fit onto the yam taper
rest of the kit will work on a yamaha, he didnt sell it so you might throw him an offer > postage would be about $25 USD

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170500066797&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT
Title: Re: CDI Unit for 1976 YZ250C Wanted
Post by: Blowkat on June 17, 2010, 09:51:18 pm
Electrex world have a cdi to suit for 145.00 US dollars on there UK web site . I got a rectifier and stator off there store in brisbane two years ago for my suzuki katana and have no trouble with , it is quite suprising what they have and there service was good . Sorry i don't have there australian site , but i hope this helps you or any body else .
Title: Re: CDI Unit for 1976 YZ250C Wanted
Post by: jimg1au on June 17, 2010, 10:12:16 pm
   
one on usa ebay now with warranty 99.00 +30 shipping



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GENUINE-YAMAHA-CDI-IGNITOR-YZ250-YZ-250-1976-/120469714833?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c0c8df791
Title: Re: CDI Unit for 1976 YZ250C Wanted
Post by: mudguard on June 17, 2010, 10:46:18 pm
Thanks Freaky,
I will call Steve tomorrow and see what he has available.
Hi Jimg1au, The one that guy is advertising on ebay is not the correct one. I have an alloy casing with 8 wires coming from the unit. I recon he has a later model unit.
Blowkat, If I cant get one from Aust, will try to find that seller in GB.
Thanks Guys.
Mudguard.
Title: Re: CDI Unit for 1976 YZ250C Wanted
Post by: vandy010 on June 18, 2010, 02:02:37 am
i'll have a look in my shed in the morning as i think i've got one, condition unknown.
just to make sure, how many wires? colours?
Title: Re: CDI Unit for 1976 YZ250C Wanted
Post by: mudguard on June 18, 2010, 09:03:47 am
Hi vandy010,
It has a total of 8 wires.  2 lots of 3 wires, terminate into 2 black triangular shape connectors. 1 x 2 wires, terminate into 1 oval shape black connector. Some of the colours are; Black, Black/White stripe, Yellow, Red, Brown. Not sure of the rest as it is not with me at the moment.
Cheers,
Wayne.
Title: Re: CDI Unit for 1976 YZ250C Wanted
Post by: Lozza on June 18, 2010, 09:06:21 am
 I have a large collection of Hitachi ignitions I know I have 1 250 one.All those Hitachis are basicaly the same except for  the position of the keyway in the rotor.
Title: Re: CDI Unit for 1976 YZ250C Wanted
Post by: mudguard on June 18, 2010, 09:12:30 am
Hi Guys,
I wil post a photo of the CDI Unit on the forum tonight, this might help my search.
Title: Re: CDI Unit for 1976 YZ250C Wanted
Post by: Ji Gantor on June 18, 2010, 09:21:15 am
Mudguards CDI unit was working the week before CD7 but on Saturday He kicked and kicked but the fire would not start.
So we whipped off the spark plug and discovered there was no spark, we then replaced the plug with a new one but still no spark. We then borrowed from old mate Bultaco Ron a multi meter. Alas there was no resistance readings from the CDI. We then noticed some oil leaking out of the back of the CDI unit. Dead totally dead.
Brian, all round great guy offered Mudguard a spare he had to see if we could get the YZ on the track. First kick the engine fired up and the YZ250 C graced another MX track.
Another CD story of great people trying to help one another for a common goal.

Tight nuts

Ji
Title: Re: CDI Unit for 1976 YZ250C Wanted
Post by: IT400C on June 18, 2010, 10:17:20 am
Is the YZ250C CDI the same as the YZ400C??
Title: Re: CDI Unit for 1976 YZ250C Wanted
Post by: firko on June 18, 2010, 10:23:58 am
I was looking for a similar black box and couldn't find one in time for CD7 so I used one from a YZ80J and it worked just fine. There's a spark you could weld with so unless it does something horrible to my DT400 outside flywheel ignition, it'll stay.
Title: Re: CDI Unit for 1976 YZ250C Wanted
Post by: Rossvickicampbell on June 18, 2010, 11:08:07 am
if youa re looking at the UK - try Rex Caunt Racing.  Service is exceptional and these guys also sell PVL parts - bit rare I found as most palces want to send you a complete unit at $500USD!

All the best

Rossco
Title: Re: CDI Unit for 1976 YZ250C Wanted
Post by: vandy010 on June 18, 2010, 11:40:55 am
Hi vandy010,
It has a total of 8 wires.  2 lots of 3 wires, terminate into 2 black triangular shape connectors. 1 x 2 wires, terminate into 1 oval shape black connector. Some of the colours are; Black, Black/White stripe, Yellow, Red, Brown. Not sure of the rest as it is not with me at the moment.
Cheers,
Wayne.
Wayne,
real sorry mate but i've turned my garage upside down and for the life of me can't find the one i was thinking of but from memory, i think it was different to what you've described above.
sorry mate,
no help here.
Title: Re: CDI Unit for 1976 YZ250C Wanted
Post by: jimg1au on June 18, 2010, 12:43:23 pm
all mine have 6 wires only.i had my stator rebuilt and was told any 6 wire cdi would work
1976 yz125x
jim
Title: Re: CDI Unit for 1976 YZ250C Wanted
Post by: TT5 Matt on June 18, 2010, 03:41:20 pm
are mx250b cdi's 8 wire as i know where one of those is?
Title: Re: CDI Unit for 1976 YZ250C Wanted
Post by: mudguard on June 18, 2010, 08:17:23 pm
Hi,
Here are some photos of my dead CDI Unit. Someone might have one of these!

(http://i797.photobucket.com/albums/yy256/goldenbreed62/005-1.jpg)

(http://i797.photobucket.com/albums/yy256/goldenbreed62/007.jpg)

(http://i797.photobucket.com/albums/yy256/goldenbreed62/006.jpg)

Thanks for your info guys, keep it coming.
Wayne.

Title: Re: CDI Unit for 1976 YZ250C Wanted
Post by: TT5 Matt on June 18, 2010, 08:38:13 pm
that looks like the mx250b box ive seen at a mates place ill get it next week to be sure the wiring is the same
Title: Re: CDI Unit for 1976 YZ250C Wanted
Post by: mudguard on June 18, 2010, 09:12:15 pm
Hi TT5 Matt,
Give me a call if it is the same, and talk price, as I will need it by 2nd July. QVMX at Biddaddaba 3rd & 4th July. 0405022090
Cheers,
Wayne
Title: Re: CDI Unit for 1976 YZ250C Wanted
Post by: jimg1au on June 18, 2010, 09:24:57 pm
yamaha 1973/74 mx250 mx360 have that type of cdi box as well TIA01-02 8 WIRES
Title: Re: CDI Unit for 1976 YZ250C Wanted
Post by: Blowkat on June 18, 2010, 09:38:32 pm
I found the australian electrex world web site and it has got the cdi for $354.00 which is a bit pricey but they say that the yz cdi is the same from 1976 to 1984 . I hope this gives you more options.
Title: Re: CDI Unit for 1976 YZ250C Wanted
Post by: jimg1au on June 18, 2010, 09:43:06 pm
he dosent have the 1976 on 6 wire cdi the early 8 wire much harder to get ant that is the price you will pay for nos mxa cdi boxes
Title: Re: CDI Unit for 1976 YZ250C Wanted
Post by: jimg1au on June 18, 2010, 09:54:49 pm
Part # = 364-85540-13-00
Part Description = CDI UNIT ASSEMBLY
Model Count = 10
MX250A 1974 250 MX250 Off-Road
MX250B 1975 250 MX250 Off-Road
MX360A 1974 360 MX360 Off-Road
YZ125A 1974 125 YZ125 Competition Motocross
YZ125B 1975 125 YZ125 Competition Motocross
YZ125C 1976 125 YZ125 Competition Motocross
YZ250A 1974 250 YZ250 Competition Motocross
YZ250B 1975 250 YZ250 Competition Motocross
YZ360A 1974 360 YZ360 Competition Motocross
YZ360B 1975 360 YZ360 Competition Motocross
all these have 8 wires the later have 6
if you have a 1976 yz250c you have the wrong ignition on it should have 6 wires
jim
yz125x owner 6 wires used to own mx250a they have 8 wires
Title: Re: CDI Unit for 1976 YZ250C Wanted
Post by: mudguard on June 18, 2010, 10:12:29 pm
Hi jimg1au,
Unbelieveable!. Thanks mate. Another bodgy part on this bike,( I didn't know about ) that I bought from Dribbledrudge. just looked at my parts book and you are right. Would cost me a small fortune to get it to original ( stator & CDI ) but this set up works. Will stay with CDI Unit with 8 wires, unless original performes better. Has anyone compared ?
Title: Re: CDI Unit for 1976 YZ250C Wanted
Post by: jimg1au on June 18, 2010, 10:19:53 pm
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110443845695&viewitem=&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26its%3DI%26otn%3D2&category=35594

this one is the right one