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Clubroom => Competition => Topic started by: SAABCOMBI on May 27, 2010, 05:51:05 pm
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what would be your choice of bike if you where to race pre78 class
125
250
big bore
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Suzuki of course.
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what would be your choice of bike if you where to race pre78 class
big bore
"The super trick and extremely effective Montesa VB 360 on the cover and in a complete test."
http://www.vintagemx.us/cgi-bin/largephoto.cgi?C=zwsAn4T69e32TnCH
Its so good it unfairly got banned from the pre-78 class world wide ;).
(http://i323.photobucket.com/albums/nn458/mx250syd/montesa/bikepics-846963-full.jpg)
Not just the best also the prettiest ;D,
(http://i323.photobucket.com/albums/nn458/mx250syd/montesa/bikepics-842387-full.jpg)(http://i323.photobucket.com/albums/nn458/mx250syd/montesa/bikepics-842963-full-1.jpg)
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Great looking bike, my friend is looking for a montesa to buy.
Sorry, if the bike was manufactured in 1977 its eligible.
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the model itself is eligible but it may not conform to the suspension travel regs ;)
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Its so good it unfairly got banned from the pre-78 class world wide .
Have a look at the minutes from the Commissioners meeting. You'll see that the VB is now kosher for pre '78 as long as they comply with the 9'' limit.
http://www.ma.org.au/fileadmin/user_upload/Documents/Reports___Minutes/2010/Commission_Meetings/80010578%20CMX%20Minutes%208%20%26%209%20May%2010.pdf
(http://www.ma.org.au/fileadmin/user_upload/Documents/Reports___Minutes/2010/Commission_Meetings/80010578%20CMX%20Minutes%208%20%26%209%20May%2010.pdf)
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Another spaniard
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o82/evo550/phantom_moates.jpg)
Much sexier than a Monty ;D
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I had that model VB. Why oh why did I sell the bloody thing....... :'( :'( :'(
(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee74/All_things_414/DSCN1012.jpg)
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:) ;) ;) ;D
Now has the extremely attractive, effective and aerodynamic small front number plate 8). What taste
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A moment of weakness Greg. :( (but I might be onto something else.... ;))
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well that means you may wish to part with your VR ;D
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This would be my choice.
(http://www.srcf.fr/forum/userimages/RS125GS-1977.jpg)
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'77 Husky, Maico and Montesa all suspension travel restriction to 9" front and rear to be totally legal. Other bikes are allowed to do heaps of performance improvements while these three are handicapped :-\.
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Thought that SWM was a '78 model?
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LOVE THAT OSSA, THAT IS VERY SEXY.
I know a fellow with that model in this shed.
I had a SWM MC 125,and sold it, very regretable sale and it is also shitting in a shed doing nothing here in geelong, but it was a 79 model.
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125s its the RM125B or the YZ125D, depending on how tall and how good you are at keeping the thing singing.
Having said that, a 'hopelessly outdated' '77 CR125 has won the title for the last two years... :D
In the 250 and 500 classes, it seems that the only Jap bikes to get a serious look-in are the YZ250/400D. Dunno what's wrong with the RMs 'cause everyone raves about the RM370s.
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rm125,rm250,Maico 400. Had an rm370. Maico is a fair bit better.
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No one has mention the bultaco`s mk 8 & 9. and ccm.
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suzuki of course
rm 125/250/370 ;)
hey brad you are comparing a stock rm370 to a nice blinged maico ;D ;D
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The only thing bling is a set of shocks. Polish doesn't make the bike go fast. :-*
No one has mention the bultaco`s mk 8 & 9. and ccm.
That is because you asked what is the best. Not favourite or best looking.
I would love to get my hands on an Italian 125 such as a TM or Villa or similar. They looked the goods, be interesting to see how they perform.
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Thought that SWM was a '78 model?
Nope the first of the RS-GS came out in 77 then went though to 79
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production '75 RH250..that'd be my choice ;)
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My choice would be a CCM. 8)
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I had a 78 SWM 250 (which as pointed out is eligible cos its same as 77) but it wouldn't be my choice. Suspension, handling & brakes were great, but power is all wrong for MX. King hit at about 7500rpm means you never got outdragged in a straight line, but give me a fat midrange for MX any day.
I also had (& still have) a MK9 Pursang that I raced back in the day. Much as I love Buls (& the Mk8 was at the pointy end in its day) the Mk9 is a bit outclassed in pre78
My choices would be:
125 - RM-B, by a long way
250 - probably VB Monty, or perhaps a Beta or Villa if I could find one
500 - not really interested, but probably AW400 Maico
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I had a 78 SWM 250 (which as pointed out is eligible cos its same as 77) but it wouldn't be my choice. Suspension, handling & brakes were great, but power is all wrong for MX. King hit at about 7500rpm means you never got outdragged in a straight line, but give me a fat midrange for MX any day.
If you can hot up a bike to suit why wouldn't you 'tune down' a bike to suit? It can be as simple as putting more flywheel weight on. Or, in this day and age, why not a programmable ignition.
The SWM would certainly winning the 'prettiest' stake (or at least a close second to the VB Monty :D)
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My little Vintage Factory RC125 Replica will do me for pre-78 ;)
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I had a 78 SWM 250 (which as pointed out is eligible cos its same as 77) but it wouldn't be my choice. Suspension, handling & brakes were great, but power is all wrong for MX. King hit at about 7500rpm means you never got outdragged in a straight line, but give me a fat midrange for MX any day.
If you can hot up a bike to suit why wouldn't you 'tune down' a bike to suit? It can be as simple as putting more flywheel weight on. Or, in this day and age, why not a programmable ignition.
The SWM would certainly winning the 'prettiest' stake (or at least a close second to the VB Monty :D)
Graeme, I did try to some degree. I adjusted the timing of the rotary valve & ignition, it was an enduro model so already had the heavier flywheel, milder disc & presumable milder port timing. From memory I also ran w/out a base gasket dropping the barrell for milder port timing, but nothing made much difference. It seemed to be a result perhaps of the harmonics in the inlet tract & perhaps the bore-stroke ratio of the engine (Very short stroke). Almost every test of that short-stroke Rotax engine said the same thing, no matter what state of tune. Comments I've read on the factory bikes were also much the same. It only seemed to improve when they went to the longer stroke engine of MX4 onwards.
Programmable ignitons weren't readily available when I had the bike & I wouldn't have had the $$ resources anyway. But it is still being raced in QVMX & GB still says he rarely misses the holeshot or is outdragged down the straight.
Personally I think they look a bit gawky. Much perfer the looks of VBs & GP2 Phantoms
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Is there really any choice ?
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/Kommer/MX3ad.jpg)
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I reckon the YZ 400 d is one of the best in the big bore class, If it wasn't for the useless fat bastard riding one at the 09 Nats ::) and the interevntion of the 6 times national champion ;D riding sooo bloody fast!!! a YZinger may have won ???
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YZ125C with 125X suspension ;)
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1977 Moto-Fox Suzuki's Rm125
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I'd love a '77 TM125.
The engines seem to look very similar to a YZ125D engine from the outside - it wouldn't amaze me if they're based on/copied from the Yammie motor, which wouldn't be a bad thing.
Is there really any choice ?
:D
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Actually, I do recall a bloke on a 175, Enduro CanAm faring very well in a field of pre-78 250 MX bikes at Canowindra last year... I suspect that for 90% of us, the tractability of such a bike would make it a brilliant choice (even though its down on peak power to the 250 MX bikes).
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A Bloke on a 175 CanAm faring very well, mate he was Smokin!!!! Husqvarna ,CanAm, Yamaha, have a lot of Shitty VMX races under my belt, Canowindra was one i`ll bore the Grand kids with, ;D
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Best Pre 78 Bike, Husky 76 Cr250, Husky 75 Cr125, ::) ::) ::)
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My choice, (if anyone cares) would be:
1976 Suzuki RM125B
1977 Montesa VB250
1977 Maico MC400
(http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af39/gf079/Gregs%20pictures/New77Maicoin76.jpg)
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'77 RM125B
'77 RM250B or Husky '77 CR250
'77 Maico AW400
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dont think the maico's are in the running , no world titles to their name ;D, so its got to be the YZ 400 D!!!!!
Trev
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Still in the book as GP class only (whatever that means ) but my pick would be :
1977 Montesa VB360
Mike
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Latest minutes from the MA Classic MX & DT sub committee has now listed the VB360 (with 9" travel restriction) in the acceptable machines for pre78 so next year GCR's should have it. Even though I also listed the VB250 be included in the 250 list for pre78 in my submission it does not appear to have be included ??? ::) Maybe next year???
http://www.ma.org.au/fileadmin/user_upload/Documents/Reports___Minutes/2010/Commission_Meetings/80010578%20CMX%20Minutes%208%20%26%209%20May%2010.pdf
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Without Question, this would be THE best pre 78 bike to have.. ;D
Jim Pomeroy's 1977 RC500
(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/hemiy09/1977_RC500_1_1280.jpg)
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I've been thinking about what I reckon would be the best pre '78 bike and came to the conclusion that there isn't a best bike to race. Like anything we do in life we have to follow our instincts and inner passions so the bike you choose doesn't have to be the fastest, the best handling or even the prettiest bike in the class. It does however have to be the bike that gets your mojo working, the bike that gets you heart beat raised just that little bit by just looking at it.
How it performs on the track is secondary to what it does to your soul.
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Yamaha hl 500 with 9"
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125 RM 125A
250 RM 250B
Open Maico AW 400
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Take emotion out of it and the VB Montesa was streets ahead of the Jap stuff and most of the other euro's (readily available in Oz). Pretty much the same as the VR in '74.
Gee. Another Honda works bike. Plenty of them about in 1977..... ::)
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125 RM125-B
250 RM250-B
open 360 mikkola or 370 mk 10 pursang
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Take emotion out of it and the VB Montesa was streets ahead of the Jap stuff and most of the other euro's (readily available in Oz). Pretty much the same as the VR in '74.
Gee. Another Honda works bike. Plenty of them about in 1977..... ::)
Not saying they are shit, but I wasn't overly impressed with my '77 250. Mind you I haven't ridden any other pre '78 250...I don't think. Did any articles of the day feel the same?
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Can't go past my 1977 Suzuki RM370B. Well, some of you do, but you know what I mean... SD
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Can't go past my 1977 Suzuki RM370B. Well, some of you do, but you know what I mean... SD
I wouldnt go past an RM 370 either ;)but i just had to have a husky and a bully in the(short) mix ! use to ride my brothers 370 A back in the day and loved it :D
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So where are all of the RM370s?
I can only ever recall seeing one at a race meeting (young Brad's at the Coffs Nats).
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Dunno nathan,there werent anywhere near the numbers of them around like the 125 and 250 back then(not in my area anyway),i suppose some models survived the 33 years better than others? maybe theres a few tucked away by restorer/ enthusiasts here and there
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I was been only slightly parochial and facetious nominating the VB. I'm surprised of the support for both the 250 and 360.
We'll have to make it a OzVMX/VMX mag project some day to line these bikes up in a current day shoot out. Different riders and may be a couple of different tracks and/or conditions. Then pronounce a WINNER (http://i323.photobucket.com/albums/nn458/mx250syd/icons/winnergold1.gif) .
But then again it might spoil all the fun :P ;D.
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I have never ridden an RM370, but I do think they are an excellent bike from what I've read and seen. And if I had one, I'd want it to look like this one. Yum!!
(http://azmikesvmxbikes.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/1977RM370MXFOXright002.jpg)
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Graeme.....That's a nice Fox RM but those handwarmers need to go.
Perhaps the reason nobody's picked an RM370 is that despite being pretty damn quick, they were notoriously difficult to ride, they had a power band more like a ported 250 than the grunty open classers of the time. I remember riding a mates bike back in the day after hopping off my VB Monty 250 and Husky Auto, thought it was a bit difficult to keep on the pipe with my minimal riding skills. I rode another a few years ago at a Nepean dirt track and the years hadn't changed anything. Still peaky.
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Iam with you firko with those hand things :-\) your also righton with the 370 top end i rode alongside my older brother at nepean(interclub day wallsend/blacktown ? from memory 76') couldnt keep with the zook at the end of the straight on the bul ,bugger ::)there was another bloke from down there that was also going well on an rm370,Ron Davis?
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Ron Davis still races vintage dirt track on a very fast TM400 that has a few RN bits and pieces that he's owned since new and was a Northcote Motorcycles sponsored A grader .
His brother owns a matching pair of RH75/RN75 Suzukis but doesn't race them any more.
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That fox looks choice when you look past the blizzard guards,imo it would look even better with the original tank colours,in my shed any day ;) firko that explains why he was so quick on the 370 that day
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ok it looks like it is decided
the rm370 is the best pre 78 bike ;)
just because i race one doesnt mean i am biased ::)
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ok it looks like it is decided
the rm370 is the best pre 78 bike ;)
just because i race one doesnt mean i am biased ::)
I owned and raced a RM370 in 77 as well as an MC400 Maico. I thought the MC400 was a much more competitive open class A graders bike than the RM370. But the Suzuki was the start of some great jap open class bikes.
Regards Stan.
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I was thinking along the same lines as you Stan. I've just built up an RM370 but after having a ride on Brad's 400 Maico a while back i tend to agree with you.
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Following up on my previous post where I reckoned that the best bike for pre 78 (or any class for that matter) is the bike that puts a smile on your face, no matter whether it's a potential race winner or not, this is the bike that does it for me. Sure it's an old school British 4 stroke, it's expensive, it has strange ride ergos, parts are hard to get and when you find them, too bloody expensive but there's something very special about them. As a bonus they're quicker than they're supposed to be and I reckon they look sensational.
If I was cashed up and 35 years years old this'd be my choice.........
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/1977CCM500.jpg)
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Thats a gem of a ccm firko,i remember seeing per klitland clean everybody up at dungog mx one day on one (73-74'),never forget him mono-ing, crossed-up all the way up the hill they called the staircase,the sound and sight of that will alway stick in the head,after that day the baffles come straight out of my little xr75 :D
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In my humble opinion, the best pre '78 bikes are :
'77 RM125B (no contest)
'77 Montesa VB250 or '77 CR250 Husky
'77 CR390 Husky or Montesa VB360
I have had a ride on a nice '77 Maico AW400, but I think that my '77 CR390 is a better bike (and so did the Maico owner). I also own a VB360, which I think is a great bike, but it is totally different to ride than the Husky. The VB360 has a 4 speed gearbox and pulls from low revs like a tractor,with a strong mid-range, but doesn't seem to have much top end power. The CR390 has a six speed gearbox with a broad spread of power with a strong top end. So I think that the Husky is more suited to faster tracks, where the Monty is suited to tighter technical tracks with short straights. Jody Weisel (like him or hate him), editor of Motocross Action Magazine, rated the '77 VB250 as the best 250 motocross bike of 1977. I don't really rate the Yamaha D models that highly, but I am sure that in the right hands they are a winning bike. They probably have the best forks (along with the Maico) and front brake in the class. It is interesting that the Yamaha is never mentioned when the nine inch travel rule is talked about, yet the specifications on the brochure for the D model says they have 250mm travel at the rear. The travel limit should be ten inches anyway, as there were plenty of bikes made in 1977 with more than nine inches suspension travel.
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i have just purchased a 77 husky 250 cr, what where they like as a race bike.
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Maybe the a modded VA Monty. Apparently became a Vic Champ in '76.
http://ausvmx.ning.com/photo/dinsdales-76-va-montesa?context=latest
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hey mark are you coming to cd 7
if you are bring the vb360
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i have just purchased a 77 husky 250 cr, what where they like as a race bike.
Dunno about the 77 models, but the 76 ones make you crash a whole lot.
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hey mark are you coming to cd 7
if you are bring the vb360
I would have to be in the hospital intensive care unit, before I would miss CD7. But unfortunately, I don't have room for my VB360 as I am already bringing my Maico 490, Can Am Sonic, Husky 500 Auto and 3 other bikes that I have sold . The VB360 is not completely set up the way that I want it yet and it doesn't have the correct forks or seat on it . I know that Jared from Southwest Montesa has fibreglass seat bases, foams and covers in stock for the VB, but I don't have any of the mounting brackets. If I can't find a good second hand seat , I will just have to fabricate some brackets .
As far as the '77 Husky CR250 is concerned , I have ridden one and thought that it was really good . So good in fact , that I hunted around and bought a basket case one to add to my list of projects ;).
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i have just purchased a 77 husky 250 cr, what where they like as a race bike.
How much do you want for it David? ;)
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I PICK IT UP TOMORROW.
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Some years ago I went to look at what was being advertised as a 1979 WR250, but when I got there this bike had the small aluminium tank, "Bing" carb, small airbox, "ML" frame and the head light was an added on preston petty. Perusal of the engine number revealed a CR250 and not WR250 number. It was a 1977 CR250 even though the former owner would not agree with me on this point.
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I was pleased to get the former CR250, as my cousin had a matching "ML" frame 1977 CR125 on the property that he bought right in the period in perfect and near brand new condition save for it having been used in anger by the previous owner on the race track from new and it came with various alternative ratios etc. He was not an experienced rider and was S##t S####d of the thing and has only ever ridden it a few times to this day.
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Hey Nathan,
Why do '76 CR250 Husky's make you "crash a lot"? I've owned & raced a couple of '76 360's and found them almost impossible to crash (never crashed one), and have always been up the pointy of the pre'78 class. Last raced with no third gear, hard going from 2nd to fourth quickly, still couldn't crash it, still managed to take a second overall. I imagine the 250's would be no different.
Cheers,
K
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Following up on my previous post where I reckoned that the best bike for pre 78 (or any class for that matter) is the bike that puts a smile on your face, no matter whether it's a potential race winner or not, this is the bike that does it for me. Sure it's an old school British 4 stroke, it's expensive, it has strange ride ergos, parts are hard to get and when you find them, too bloody expensive but there's something very special about them. As a bonus they're quicker than they're supposed to be and I reckon they look sensational.
If I was cashed up and 35 years years old this'd be my choice.........
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/1977CCM500.jpg)
CCM + Jimmy Aird = fast http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6NCiDt1bm8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6NCiDt1bm8)
Just as a sidenote, a modern CCM piloted by Stephen Sword won the last round of the British MX champs, shutting out Brad Anderson (who happened to spank everyone last week at Raymond Terrace). That can't be a bad bike either...
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How much do you want for it David?
I PICK IT UP TOMORROW.
That hasn't stopped you in the past mate ::).
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CCM + Jimmy Aird = fast http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6NCiDt1bm8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6NCiDt1bm8)
Fast+Smooth = 8).
;) :) Thanks.
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CCM + Jimmy Aird = fast http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6NCiDt1bm8
Two outstanding points are obvious from that video......1: Jimmy Aird is still rocket fast and smooth as silk,even at 60 plus years of age. 2: CCMs are fast despite them being "old British shit" as one forum punter once described them. There are a lot of red, white and yellow two strokes getting smoked in that video by that old bloke on an uncompetitive 4 stroke and it's not just Jims riding. He hole shot them big time as well.
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If you watch near the end of the video, when he just rolls on the throttle out of a turn.. that's the CCM power everyone raves about. Not uncommon to do entire race meetings in 3rd gear.
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CCM + Jimmy Aird = fast http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6NCiDt1bm8
CCMs are fast despite them being "old British shit" as one forum punter once described them. There are a lot of red, white and yellow two strokes getting smoked in that video by that old bloke on an uncompetitive 4 stroke and it's not just Jims riding. He hole shot them big time as well.
Ya not 'having a go' at me are ya Firko :D. Yeah it's true I'll sling off at the Poms and 60's and 70's Pommy engineering at the drop of a hat :D, but hey it's well deserved ;D.
Born of parents of the heroic WW2 generation imbued with 'to the last man and the last shilling' Empire spirit, the last rays of the Pommy Imperial splendor took a long time to disappear from our household. As a consequence I've worked on many a Mini, Triumph (car and bike) and Cortina much to my chagrin. And I have experienced that dreadful feeling of exciting spirited motoring being brought to an unexpected loss of forward progress by some irritating, avoidable Pommy quirk of engineering or electrics.
So let it be with CCM. I come to praise Caesar not to bury him. ;D
They could be a great bike but they won't a great bike from the factory. There was the need for secret hand shakes and initiation into the secret world of CCM ownership starting with a lathe, an engineering degree and access to ancient pagan rites and witchcraft. I think this bike may of had that advantage plus 30 years to refine it's advantage.
That's a great ride but 'one swallow does not make a summer'. That's the CCM's 'home track' advantage. Perfect traction with a gentle undulation as the nearest thing to the off-road. Put the CCM on a hard packed clay surface with ruts and more than 100 metres between corners and you'll get a different result regardless of the pilot. ;)
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Hey Nathan,
Why do '76 CR250 Husky's make you "crash a lot"?
It was a dig at Snowy76, but sadly, no bites... :D
Having briefly raced a '76 360, I agree with you, actually. The motor was about a zillion times faster than I could dream of using properly, but they're a sweet bike.
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Mark you are right, ccm is the way to go.
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Ya not 'having a go' at me are ya Firko .
Actually Graeme, I wasn't having a go at you, I was referring to another fella but if the cap fits.............. ;D
They could be a great bike but they won't a great bike from the factory. There was the need for secret hand shakes and initiation into the secret world of CCM ownership starting with a lathe, an engineering degree and access to ancient pagan rites and witchcraft. I think this bike may of had that advantage plus 30 years to refine it's advantage.
Based on what experience Graeme, some magazine piece? I know two people who currently own CCMs, one of them having his '74 since new and not only have both bikes been rock solid reliable, they are both exceptionally quick without either owner needing the services of a "a lathe, an engineering degree and access to ancient pagan rites and witchcraft.". I promise you that once you have a ride on a CCM your may change your mind. If you're coming to CD7 I'll make sure you get a few laps in on one of them.
I agree that British engineering left a lot to be desired, especially in the sixties and seventies but sometimes they got it right and the CCM is one of those cases. They took a very obsolete and flawed bike, the BSA B50 and turned it into a genuine contender. You still don't think they were contenders? Check a report on the 1976 Carlsbad USGP and you'll find that CCM riders John Banks and Bob Wright were pulling away in both motos until the riders were overtaken by heat exhaustion. That's just one instance , mentioned because I was there and completely blown away by the vision of seeing 4 strokes blitzing the worlds best on "Pommy Shit".
Because I own a V12 Jag, I get this this crap thrown at me all the time. Unreliable, time bombs, over complicated, slow.....I've heard it all. The most common one being "When are you putting a Chevy in it"? Naturally none of the know-alls have ever driven a V12, or any Jag for that matter but because they read some shit in a magazine they become experts. Once they have a drive of the Jag and experience how quick and smooth it is compared to a rattly old pushrod V8, their attitudes very quickly change. It's the same with a CCM. Ride one and it may just change your perception of "British Shit"
However, Sptite, American Eagle and Alron.......that's a very different story. They redefine the phrase Pommy Shit. ::)
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Is now a good time to mention my experiences with TR7s?
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Is now a good time to mention my experiences with TR7s?
Yep, they were crap Nathan but the TR2/3/4/5/6 were good solid cars. I made my point because I get tired of the British Shit slag as an all enveloping description for anything made in England. For that matter all forms of 'mechanical racism' generalisation (Jap crap, Euro trash etc gets up my nose. There are good and bad made everywhere by everyone but by just dismissing something because it's made in a particular country is ignorant and wrong. I don't own a CCM nor do I have a particular need to own one but I know enough about classic motocross bikes to categorically challenge that they're shit. Their a great example of British craftsmanship, an example of what the Brits could do if they did it right.
It's the same thing as saying "I got ripped off by a Queenslander once so all Queendslanders must be thieves".
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so mark you are a reds supporter then
jim
go the tahrs and sothern districts what a turn around
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Firko, you are so right, l rode a b50 at barrabool, and fall in love with it ASAP, rode Stewart Youngs GP 441, just brilliant , so Stewart and l built a Metisse, and a B50 ,Greame take the opportuniy and have a ride on a CCM, or B50, it will change the way you think about 4 strokes.
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My sister and brother in law had one of those v12 jags years ago and that thing was POWERFUL, the thing did 150mph and i remember cruising in the passenger seat at 100mph and all we could hear was the clock ticking ,hell thirsty though and servicing was an issue with lack of underbonnet space!
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Dale, Power is one thing the XJS has by the bucketload to the point that mine will easily peg my mates sons current model 5.7 Maloo ute, not bad for a 34 year old piece of flawed engineering. My earlier black XJS, with modified computer and other tweaks was even quicker, despite being only 5.3 litres compared to my current 6l Walkinshaw version.
But we are straying from the thread. Please resume normal broadcasting. ;D
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Without Question, this would be THE best pre 78 bike to have.. ;D
Jim Pomeroy's 1977 RC500
(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/hemiy09/1977_RC500_1_1280.jpg)
8) 8) just been lookin for one of these-not too many on evil bay.... ;D
Stunning bike but is that really a 77 Model (genuinely asking)?