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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ji Gantor on May 12, 2010, 08:32:37 am

Title: Post Card
Post by: Ji Gantor on May 12, 2010, 08:32:37 am: A good friend of mine and fellow VMX racer Graham Spade was living here in Australia but at Christmas moved over to good old Mother England for family reasons. Within hours of landing he was on his way to look at a bike that was for sale. The following weekend he was at a track racing.
Since then he has purchased quite a few bikes and ridden a number of historic tracks.

I talked Graham into taking some images of the tracks, racing and of course the bikes.
I hope you all enjoy this post card from Graham on his VMX journey.
I will start with an image of last Sundays Classic British Championship racing near Reading.

Ji
(http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww268/Jigantor1963/Reading1a.jpg)
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: Ji Gantor on May 14, 2010, 08:22:22 am: Bikes at the meet.
By Graham.
English correspondent.

Ji
(http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww268/Jigantor1963/Bike1a.jpg)
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: Ji Gantor on May 14, 2010, 08:26:25 am: Bikes at the meet.
By Graham.
English Correspondent.

Ji
(http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww268/Jigantor1963/Bike2a.jpg)
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: Ji Gantor on May 14, 2010, 08:28:06 am: Bikes at the meet.
By Graham.
English Correspondent.

Ji
(http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww268/Jigantor1963/Bike3a.jpg)
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: Ji Gantor on May 14, 2010, 08:30:46 am: Bikes at the meet.
By Graham.
English Correspondent.

Ji
(http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww268/Jigantor1963/Bike4a.jpg)
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: Ji Gantor on May 14, 2010, 08:33:33 am: Bikes at the meet.
By Graham.
English Correspondent.

Ji
(http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww268/Jigantor1963/Bike5a.jpg)
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: shortshifter on May 14, 2010, 08:36:57 am: nice shots.
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: Ji Gantor on May 14, 2010, 08:40:12 am: Thanks Shortshifter I will let Graham know.
He will be sending me some images of sidecars soon for the three wheel people here.

Ji
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: Hoony on May 14, 2010, 08:52:16 am: Wow, that track looks open & Fast !

Quote from: Ji Gantor on May 12, 2010, 08:32:37 am
(http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww268/Jigantor1963/Reading1a.jpg)
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: Ji Gantor on May 14, 2010, 01:00:38 pm: More great looking bikes from Graham.
Thanks Mate.

Ji
(http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww268/Jigantor1963/Bike6a.jpg)
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: Ji Gantor on May 14, 2010, 01:01:57 pm: More Great looking bikes from Graham.
Thanks Mate.

Ji
(http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww268/Jigantor1963/Bike7a.jpg)
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: Ji Gantor on May 14, 2010, 01:03:02 pm: More Great looking bikes from Graham.
Thanks Mate.

Ji
(http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww268/Jigantor1963/Bike8a.jpg)
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: Ji Gantor on May 14, 2010, 01:08:38 pm: Static display bike.
Thanks Graham.

Ji
(http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww268/Jigantor1963/Bike9a.jpg)
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: Ji Gantor on May 14, 2010, 01:18:25 pm: Static display bikes.
Thanks Graham.

Ji
(http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww268/Jigantor1963/Bike11a.jpg)
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: Ji Gantor on May 14, 2010, 01:19:29 pm: Freshly restored bikes.
Thanks Graham.

Ji
(http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww268/Jigantor1963/Bike10a.jpg)
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: All Things 414 on May 14, 2010, 01:20:26 pm: Quote from: Ji Gantor on May 14, 2010, 01:08:38 pm
(http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww268/Jigantor1963/Bike9a.jpg)
Black Excell's on that thing! :o Some people should be taken out and given a damn good roo......
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: Ji Gantor on May 14, 2010, 01:27:40 pm: Frames and spare parts for sale.
Really cool Graham.

Ji
(http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww268/Jigantor1963/Bike12a.jpg)
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: VMX247 on May 14, 2010, 01:39:03 pm: Ji awesome photos,thanks 8) CCM Madness :-* :P 8)
Has Graham come across any Sprites.?
Love to see the three wheels doing some skids :P
yep black rims yuk
cheers
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: Ji Gantor on May 14, 2010, 01:45:55 pm: Hi VMX247,
Graham is quite reserved being an Englishman, and I am very happy he is allowing me to post these images. This is a great VMX gesture from a good friend. I hope all enjoy the images.
I will ask Graham about the Sprites.
I have all the details about those CCM frames, very interesting, and really cool looking.
Sidecar stuff coming soon.

Ji
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: firko on May 14, 2010, 02:43:26 pm: Quote
Freshly restored bikes.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/Bike10a.jpg)
Thanks Graham. Ji
As lovely as these two Cheneys are, they sure as shit aren't "freshly restored". They're brand new replicas fresh out of Simon Cheneys shop. I report this purely in the interests of accuracy of course. ;)
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: jimg1au on May 14, 2010, 03:02:23 pm: firko
now i see how those sheets of alloy are suposed to fit.
ps
thanks for the help with those shocks
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: TM BILL on May 14, 2010, 03:03:45 pm: Quote from: firko on May 14, 2010, 02:43:26 pm
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Freshly restored bikes.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/Bike10a.jpg)
Thanks Graham. Ji
As lovely as these two Cheneys are, they sure as shit aren't "freshly restored". They're brand new replicas fresh out of Simon Cheneys shop. I report this purely in the interests of accuracy of course. ;)

I wonder how much better these bikes are than the originals ??? With modern shock absorbers , fork internals , ignitions, wide foot pegs , clutch and brake linings , modern 3 speed gearbox and clutch assembly .

Would John Banks have been much much faster on one of these :)
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: Ji Gantor on May 14, 2010, 03:05:32 pm: Yes it hardly seems in the spirit of VMX.

Ji
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: firko on May 14, 2010, 03:38:58 pm: Quote
I wonder how much better these bikes are than the originals
It's sad what's become of the pre '65 class in the UK. Those particular Cheneys have mid to late seventies Marzocci forks, Grimeca hubs, long Works shocks just using the photo as a guide. None of those components were available pre 1965. The engines are most probably loaded with NEB 3 speed tranny, Weslake speedway crank and ti valves. What you can't see doesn't bother me as much as the obviously visibly wrong era stuff on the outside.

Having slammed them, I could easily bring them back to presentable pre 65 standard by fitting Ceriani or Betor forks, Rickman hubs, correct length shocks and a barrel with all of its original fins. They're nice things and just the sight of them makes me want to get back out the shed to get my own Cheney ready for CD7.
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firko now i see how those sheets of alloy are suposed to fit.
ps thanks for the help with those shocks
Thanks Jim, it was nice having you over. After you left I rebuilt another pair of Works shocks I had laying about for myself. Now you know how that prick Simon Cheney ripped me off after seeing my side panels!
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: VMX247 on May 14, 2010, 03:46:22 pm: Quote from: firko on May 14, 2010, 03:38:58 pm
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I wonder how much better these bikes are than the originals
It's sad what's become of the pre '65 class in the UK.

They must have some good hum dinger's in the pits though-with the wrong era issues ?
Maybe someone from the UK can confirm. !
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: Marc.com on May 14, 2010, 03:51:18 pm: If you want to win in pre 65 that is pretty much what you need to be on. Are they era correct, hmm if methanol burning reliable, 3 speed B44s churning late 40s hp were available in 1964 I guess so. ;D

Do I want one, yes really really badly, but due to financial constraints I have build it myself. ::)
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: VMX247 on May 14, 2010, 03:59:32 pm: Quote from: marcFX on May 14, 2010, 03:51:18 pm
If you want to win in pre 65 that is pretty much what you need to be on. Are they era correct, hmm if methanol burning reliable, 3 speed B44s churning late 40s hp were available in 1964 I guess so. ;D

so we must be anal in Oz with our rules then :-X
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Post by: firko on May 14, 2010, 04:10:46 pm: Quote
so we must be anal in Oz with our rules then
No we're not at all anal Alison, we're just a bit more serious about preserving the eras. The American rules are even stricter than ours so we've found a good compromise.
If you weaken to the lobbys like the poms have pretty soon all of the classes will deteriorate to the point pre 75 and pre 68 have in the UK. Just think of the Dutch twinshocks to see the naughty end of the chain. ;D

I'm out of here.....off to see the Tahs hammer the Hurricanes at the Footy Stadium!
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: bazza on May 14, 2010, 04:35:53 pm: Firko not a big Canes fan but in interest of trans tasman relations hope they beat the tahs however dont care if Village of the damned (crusaders) get beaten by the Brumbies. Damn you guys have some good young rugby players coming on
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: tony27 on May 14, 2010, 04:47:19 pm: Quote from: Ji Gantor on May 14, 2010, 08:30:46 am
Bikes at the meet.
By Graham.
English Correspondent.

Ji
(http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww268/Jigantor1963/Bike4a.jpg)
Any idea who sells the lever on the rear brake plate that allows the brake rod to run parallel with the swingarm?
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: Marc.com on May 14, 2010, 05:04:46 pm: so we must be anal in Oz with our rules then :-X
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Oh I think a little retentiveness has its place Alison, as Firko mentioned.

But in UNZUD where you have all British days or nobody got around to scrutineering then Cheney would be fun. But I think Cheney B44 is not really in the spirit of the pre 65 class and is dominant enough to create Formula Cheney racing at the detriment of the Rickmans.
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: Ji Gantor on May 17, 2010, 11:02:14 am: This image was taken on Sunday at Newcastle at another vmx scramble held by the Acorns club on a grassy field.
Thanks Graham.

Ji
(http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww268/Jigantor1963/Sidecar1a.jpg)
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: Ji Gantor on May 17, 2010, 11:03:25 am: Sidecar image thanks Graham.

Ji
(http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww268/Jigantor1963/Sidecar2a.jpg)
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: Ji Gantor on May 17, 2010, 11:04:34 am: Three wheeler image from Graham.

Ji
(http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww268/Jigantor1963/Sidecar3a.jpg)
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: Ji Gantor on May 17, 2010, 11:06:02 am: Another three wheeler.
From Graham.

Ji
(http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww268/Jigantor1963/Sidecar4a.jpg)
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: Ji Gantor on May 17, 2010, 11:07:05 am: Last image of side cars from Graham.

Ji
(http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww268/Jigantor1963/Sidecar5a.jpg)
Title: Re: Post Card
Post by: huskibul on May 17, 2010, 12:27:14 pm: Quote from: Ji Gantor on May 14, 2010, 01:19:29 pm
Freshly restored bikes.
Thanks Graham.

Ji
(http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww268/Jigantor1963/Bike10a.jpg)
correct me if iam wrong but these things(especialythe front one)look like round barrel B-40's or are they later style alloy just finned out for meth and shaped that way?or an optical illusion, their that far removed from period it's hard to tell, Whatever they are i want one ;)