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Clubroom => Tech Talk => Topic started by: LWC82PE on May 09, 2010, 03:07:52 pm
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Has anyone found a good match for the Ohlins bronze/brown shock paint? I bought a few cans of what is ment to be colour matched paint from Husqvarna parts but i am quite disapointed :( with the colour as it is too light and does not look right compared to the original colour. I tryed 2 cans, both bought from Husqvarrna-parts, one was 'made for ohlins USA by custom pak' and the other one 'made for husky products by custom pak' I tryed both side by side and could see a slight difference in the 2 but both were not dark enough like the original colour and are too light brown.
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Hi Leith,
I don't know the colour but I have to paint my Ohlins soon so I will start looking and let you know what I find.
Ji
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Keep us updated, I need to paint the old ones off my Can-am too :)
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i had a look around and a few guys in France have used this colour Motip -51711 BMW - réf 281 - SIENAROT P. 2C and i found that colour in the Spies Hecker book and the colour is closer but its a bit too dark so still not close enough.
I have a feeling its going to be a 60's-80's car colour, you know something like on a old Chev or a Cortina or something like that, but i dont have any colour books that old and i only have colours used on 92-96 cars.
The thing is that i had seen shocks that guys have painted on the net and i could see the colour they used was just too light and not right but i was hoping that the paint they used was different to what i got or it was just like that because of the computer screen but when i tryed out painting one mount it turned out the same colour as what i'd seen on the computer photos. I tryed different colour primers but that made no difference.
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You have to love Ohlins.
Most people will not pay the money for them and just say all shocks are the same.
I know I use to say it myself, right up till I installed a pair on my Maico.
What a difference they made to cornering.
Ji
(http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww268/Jigantor1963/Ohlins8a.jpg)
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Hey guys,
correct me if i`m wrong but any Ohlins stuff that i have seen is anodised in that gold color and not painted. Peter.
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Peter, it's the older stuff, steel bodies and remote reservoirs that were painted the bronzy brown colour
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Oh ok i wasn`t aware of that, any reason you can`t take a sample to get color matched and then put into pressure packs.??
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Yeah, I think that might be the best way, the paint shop I use have a hand held scanner that can do close matches, but it only seems to work on flat surfaces. Worked well from 83 CR and RM -B guards when I needed frame and tank paint. I will take an old shock and see if it works. You get a printout of the formula if it does. Otherwise it will have to be an 'eye match'.
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No theres no reason you cant do that. As a last resort i would send an original shock to Adelaide to see of they can match it and i will get a tin of it to put in a spray gun. But if anyones already had it matched and has found a good colour that would save a lot of work. I just like the look of the gold reservoir against the bronze/brown so i want it to look right.
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i think ive seen spray cans off ohlin touch up paint
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In what country? The stuff in USA is not the right colour as mentioned in the top post.
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::)
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I found a Subaru colour (Shanghai something) from Super Cheap Auto in the small Duplicolor spray cans to be the closest match. Maybe slightly darker than original. I am surprised they would allow a spray can to be shipped from the US. Air freight of spray cans is a no no I thought.
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Thanks, do you have any idea what year subaru? Is shanghai the model of subaru or the name of the colour?
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Leith it's the colour. The label on the cap of the spray can says SNB 150 Shanghai Red PJ5043. Cheers Steve
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Well i have some good news. I went to a auto shop to see what paints they had and i found the following in Holts 'Powerplus' OEM touch up paints in spray cans. I could only see 2 that looked close as the colour on the cap is supposed to indicate paint colour. These were the only 2 that i really found to be close at all and there was many empty spots in their rack. I only saw PEZbergs post about Shanghai Red PJ5043 after i went so im not sure if they had that colour there at not. If they did i would have got a can of that to try.
These were the 2 colours i got with the Holts - Powerplus part numbers in bold.
PJ4020 - 150g (not available in 350g cans)
Persian Sand Metallic – GM Holden 1974-75 – Paint code - 2G024, 15946
Cognac – Isuzu – 1987-89 – Paint code - 855, R901
PJ4030 – 150g or PK4030 -350G
Cognac Metallic – GM Holden 1989-91 – Paint code – 855, 2G060
Persian Sand Metallic – GM Holden 1974-75 – Paint code – 15946
Kinver Sand – Landrover 1999 – Paint code – 609
Copper Bronze Metallic - Ford 1972-74 – Paint code – R
The cap on the PJ4020 was a very good match to the sample shock parts i took in but i knew that the cap was only a guide. The PJ4030 had on the cap 'copper bronze metallic' which sounded like it was a good colour to use but the cap colour didnt look very close at all. I was almost not going to get the PJ4030 but decided to at the last minute.
Under each part number i have listed what make of cars the colour suits and the manufacturers colour code and name. You will see that GM Holden has 2 paints called Persian Sand Metallic. I got the above applications from this Powerplus application catalogue here
http://wiki.r31skylineclub.com/images/f/f9/Paint-codes.pdf
There may be more applications for these colours but this is just what Powerplus had listed that uses these 2 colours.
Im pretty sure the second to last column is the primer colour that should be used and the last column with ticks is if the colour eg a metallic or pearl, is ment to have a clear over top.
I got a couple bits of flat metal and sprayed them with a white/very light grey etch primer and then sprayed the 2 different colours side by side. I was surprised at how close they were to the Ohlins shock bodies i have with original paint on them still. The PJ4030 which had the cap colour i didnt think looked that close actually came out looking really close and not anything like the cap colour. Both the 4030 and the 4020 are a lot more closer to being right than the so called genuine Ohlins matched paint and the 2 colours have a more darker brown colour to them which is what i was looking for. Both colours are metallic and are supposed to have a clear over them. I havent decided what colour i will use yet and will do some more testing on round surfaces and see what it looks like with clear over top, but i am a lot happer now than i was this time last week. At this stage after comparing both colours in sunlight and shade, it is a tough decision. Both are not 100% the same as the original but both are close enough to be more than acceptable. I think im leaning towards the 4030 but next step is to paint some sample 3D objects as im sure the colour will look different to what it looks like on a flat surface. The 4020 looks a little bit darker than the 4030. I will also compare the 2 colours to some more older Ohlins remote reservoir shocks i have as i have only be comparing it to piggybacks from the early 80's.
When i was looking through the Powerplus application catalogue at the shop i read in there that the colour formulas come from ICI Autocolor which is a division of Dulux or something. I looked up ICI Autocolour and came up with this https://corporateportal.ppg.com/na/refinish/nexaautocolor They use a similar logo with the rainbow stripes but no longer use ICI.
If you go to www.spieshecker.com.au and sign up there you can access colour formula information. If you search for any of the colour names, or manufacurers codes eg 15946 for GM holden you can find the 2 brown/bronze colours and can then order them from a paint shop in professional quality paints which is probably what i will do.
If you search for
Kinver Sand – Landrover 1999 – Paint code – 609 (which is Powerplus PJ4030) it comes up with a colour chip which roughly indicates the colour.
(http://cdb.shcolor.info/Resources/chips_2/34927.jpg)
I couldnt find PEZbergs shangahi red colour in the Powerplus colour chart but that chart is from 2004 so the PJ5043 may be newer or only done in Duplicolor brand and not Powerplus. I couldnt find 'shanghai red' on the Spies Hecker website but if i knew what the Subaru colour code for Shagahi red was or what Subaru it is for then maybe i could find it there.
I have seen some Ohlins from around 82-85 on some bikes like Cagiva WMX which have been more of a dark red/maroon colour and not the brown/bronze colour. I think this may be a proper Ohlins colour too but im not really 100% sure? They may have used a couple different colours, but the colour i have been trying to match is the brown/bronze which seems to be the most common colour.
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Shanghai Red is the maroon colour. I used it for my 82 430 restoration. Sorry if I put you on the wrong track :-[ - I assumed it was the Ohlins bronze - so good job you did the research ;D