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Marque Remarks => Maico => Topic started by: 090 on April 23, 2010, 06:04:22 pm

Title: Brand new /old Maico
Post by: 090 on April 23, 2010, 06:04:22 pm
Got the latest CDB and Maico only are making new 250's and 490's from the ground up. The way I read it , not from nos but new parts that are made.
The fins have been made differently and they have the '83 style bottom end. Would this be legal here?
I took a picture but village photos isn't playing ball.I will try again after dinner.

(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2007-5/1259377/maico%20new%20002.JPG)
Title: Re: Brand new /old Maico
Post by: JohnnyO on April 23, 2010, 06:51:13 pm
They are using an '83 motor on some of their Maico's..
They make brand new '81 models using a newly manufactured frame and new old stock parts. You can buy the new frames for 495 pounds.
Title: Re: Brand new /old Maico
Post by: oldfart on April 23, 2010, 06:55:50 pm
I think you have answer that in your subject title  ;D    a lot depends on what year date they stamp frame and engine #  ;)  having said that this opens up a new can of worms.
Title: Re: Brand new /old Maico
Post by: 090 on April 23, 2010, 06:58:46 pm
It goes against the grain for me a bit. So its an '83 bottom end but seems everything else is manufactured. Even the forks? Top end is different. Triples are after market etc.
Title: Re: Brand new /old Maico
Post by: paul on April 23, 2010, 07:08:19 pm
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Maico-1981-Frame-OUT-OF-STOCK-PLEASE-DO-NOT-BID_W0QQitemZ140398893735QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Motorcycle_Parts?hash=item20b06d1aa7
Title: Re: Brand new /old Maico
Post by: oldfart on April 23, 2010, 07:09:37 pm
from what I can read .
To do this they have taken new parts from original maico sources and reproduced a new engine combining the charactistics of two different models to make a really special power unit.
Title: Re: Brand new /old Maico
Post by: paul on April 23, 2010, 07:16:25 pm
i just bought some wheels from them ,there  doing the 83 or 81/82  engines in to a  81   type round back  twin shock frame
Title: Re: Brand new /old Maico
Post by: All Things 414 on April 23, 2010, 07:19:43 pm
You couldn't possibly, legally race that in Evo (or probably any other VMX class) could you?  :o
Title: Re: Brand new /old Maico
Post by: paul on April 23, 2010, 07:24:17 pm
you could race the 83   twin shocker  in holland
Title: Re: Brand new /old Maico
Post by: 090 on April 23, 2010, 07:30:42 pm
You must be able to do it in the U.K as well.
Title: Re: Brand new /old Maico
Post by: firko on April 23, 2010, 07:33:17 pm
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You couldn't possibly, legally race that in Evo (or probably any other VMX class) could you
 

Why not? We can use replica Metisse and Cheneys and GMC replica CZs and HLs so why not a replica '81 Maico? I have my doubts about the twin shock gear drive Maico frame though.
Title: Re: Brand new /old Maico
Post by: 090 on April 23, 2010, 07:37:23 pm
Would the '83 bottom end be a no no?
Title: Re: Brand new /old Maico
Post by: JohnnyO on April 23, 2010, 08:08:54 pm
Would the '83 bottom end be a no no?
I don't think you'd be able to use anything from a single shock bike legally.
Title: Re: Brand new /old Maico
Post by: maicomc490t on April 24, 2010, 09:23:19 am
Apart from the question of class compliance.........

I'm surprised the new frames do not appear to have had any gussets added near the rear shock mounts which is the Archiles heel of the original Mega and 'round-back' frame? Maybe the materials used are better etc

Dave Mac  :)
Title: Re: Brand new /old Maico
Post by: firko on April 24, 2010, 10:27:41 am
Dave....The material in early Maico frames was pretty good, a fairly close facimile of Chro-Mo but the later frames don't use nearly as quality material IMHO. I can't pull a Lozza and get all scientific here, I'm only going by their 'weldability' and ability to be straightened after being tweaked in an accident. The new repro frames are probably made from 4130 Chro-Mo or Reynolds tubing so you'd expect them to be better than the 'mass produced for a price' originals.
I noticed the lack of any extra strengthening in known trouble spots myself so that's another clue towards better materials being used. Plus....the frames would have to be exact replicas to be deemed legal so any updates might be seen to be un kosher. I can't beleive how cheap these frames are :o.
Title: Re: Brand new /old Maico
Post by: paul on April 24, 2010, 02:12:25 pm
no wonder there outa stock
Title: Re: Brand new /old Maico
Post by: Lozza on April 25, 2010, 10:00:29 am
I can't pull a Lozza and get all scientific here,

 ???.......... ::)............... ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Brand new /old Maico
Post by: jimg1au on April 25, 2010, 11:59:31 am
evo rules
18.7.12 Evolution Class- Eligibility
18.7.12.1 Bikes will be OEM.
18.7.12.2 Modifications converting later equipment
to comply will not be allowed
18.7.12.3 All components will be of the period the
machine was manufactured.
a) No linkage suspension,
b) No Disc brakes,
c) Air cooled motors.
18.7.13 Evolution Class- Classes
a) Solo 125cc,
b) Solo 250cc,
c) Solo 263cc and over.
you can buy a brand new pre 62 manx norton and race it in national champ even with 5 speed box so why could you not ride in evo or at least pre85
jim
Title: Re: Brand new /old Maico
Post by: 090 on April 25, 2010, 01:23:55 pm
An '83 bottom end would kill it for evo. Pre '85. Throw an '81 motor in and all is good.