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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: Stan S on April 04, 2010, 10:05:59 am
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Hi all, yesterday (Saturday) 3 mates (not VMX followers) and myself travelled a couple of hours to the HBBB. Because I hadn't attended last years event I didn't know what to expect. What we found was fantastic non stop activities all day that was not only very exciting for me but also very entertaining for my 3 mates who I had dragged along. The quality and variety of bikes was unreal and the riding activities that we watched were great. The motocross track had been prepared spot on for the old bikes, the Vinduro loops were really long and hilly,the short circuit and speedway circuits were prepared well, the road race track and facilities were great but we didn't get to watch the road race action or the trials area because we just couldn't fit everything in in one day and also because we coudn't drag ourselves away from the Speedway when they bought the Vincent outfits and the pro speedway solo riders out. The sound and speed of the Vincent's was fantastic! The swap meet side was probably a little light on but I had a ball looking at all the good stuff on offer. I ran into quite a few forum members for a good talk about the great event.
I definately will attend the HBBB next year to camp and ride but I don't think for me it replaces Classic Dirt, it is just a great extra way of enjoying our sport more often without having to race as I am too old and unfit and just enjoy the social side that CD or HBBB brings. High praise should be given to Peter Drakeford and all of his crew for a fantastic event.
The legacy that Ray Ryan left for all us is VMX mag and Classic Dirt and we should just embrace this no matter where it's run or what it's called.
It is difficult for Interstate guys to attend some of these events but at least now there is more chance for everyone to attend a non competitive social get together.
My mate and myself at this stage are planning on attending CD7 as long as time and funds permit.
Regards Stan.
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Yer well said Stan. Turnout was big and lots going on -not that much swapmeeting though seems like thesedays its more about showing off you bikes and riding .Great stuff though.
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Gotta say looking at the photos and listening to the feedback it does look like a bloody cool event 8)
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Not so cool when your maintaining 4 corner in the hot sun for 4 hours with one bottle of water that was received with great pleasure after 3 hours and run off your feet to make it safe for you riders, and having one corner steward pi---ssing off after 15 minutes, and the other that wouldn`t get off his arse and support me., Saturday was a real great day, lucky l like bike.
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The Honda Broadford Bike Bonanza Program was very professional:
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Stan
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WOW--Thats a good lineup of riders and race diciplines-- :o
Thanks for sharing StanS 8)
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Am i missing something or do i read the program to say you basically gor 30 mins of riding on say a pre75 mx per DAY ??? WTF
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freaky, what are talking about. ??? ???
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Am i missing something or do i read the program to say you basically gor 30 mins of riding on say a pre75 mx per DAY ??? WTF
It looks like that to me too. :-\
e.g. on Saturday Pre 65 motocross only got to ride from 12.00 to 12.15 and then 2.00to 2.15.
Is that right?
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I don't know what they were like on Saturday but on Sunday a mate who was on a pre 75 bike and me on an Evo could finish one session and pull off the track turn around and ride in the next session with out a problem.
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Viper 79 is correct, although the program had it as dedicated sessions ( 2 X 15 min sessons per class / day) they did not enforce it lucky as that would have been shit. it made sense to just let a few out at a time as there was not shit loads of bikes there on the track sunday to make it congested.
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freaky, what are talking about. ??? ???
do the maths, the program says 2 x 15 min session per day. WHy would you travell 800 kn to ride for 30 mins per day ???????
Sounds like they did let you ride when ever but , maybe a bit of a risk to expect that as general rule. I just wanted to ask the question as to doing the HBB or the nats. I think i made the right call.
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Hi all, as a marshall on the MX track I'm sure everyone will agree that they had heaps of track time, it was decided to allow the track to flow on both days, after people were not turning up on time for their sessions. I know and understand that in a perfect world riding with your own class would be the ideal situation but the guys on the gate made an executive decision to keep the 15min sessions but let everyone play together.Obviously the sidecars stayed with the program and even they struggled to get to their sessions ontime. As i said the fast guys will always get past and after watching the track for 8hrs over the 2 days the incidents and off's were very few and req'd bugger all assistance from the orange people & emt's which really showed the level of skill of you guys ( and believe me some of you where hooking in :) ) I know the closing of the track every 15mins was annoying to the guys who we let out and only did 2 laps, but the method in our madness was if we had to switch back too the program we could. but everyone seemed happy to just keep looping. I have also read that the watering was overkill but we only watered twice on sat & once on Sunday, this was mainly to keep the dust down as the road track is just over the hill. Another critercism was about the shutting down all tracks at lunch time, unfortunately this year the orange people were a little short on numbers and had to work str8 thru the day with no relief, Next year if you have time and would like to volunteer and help keep this event alive pls contact Peter Drakeford he is only to happy to have you on board and if the numbers are good then the system of working for an hour & spending an hour riding in your favourite discipline or chatting to mates & networking could be a reality. This year the orange people pushed on so that you guys could keep riding and tho it was not perfect I saw more smiles than frowns and the stationary yellow was just a reminder that it was not a race day and to slow u down near the entry point. Well thats my say on the w/end I enjoyed my time on the MX track ( even tho I am a Vinduro rider ) thanks for behaving and not running me over although a couple of u tried lol. Cheers The Wombat ( Red Flag finish line )
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G'day Wombat,
1st up Thanks for giving up your weekend so us blokes could have a ride, much appreciated mate.
the call to let anyone out was a good call and i reckon worked a treat. i rocked up to a session and a flaggy on the start area told me there was only a minute or so and it would be 1 lap only to go in a session and i said " no worries" and he let me through no prob, i went out again 10 minutes later no prob.
if the session were stick that would have sucked as 30 minutes riding over a day is not much. glad it was not adherred to and that there was no major incidents and this format is kept for next year.
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orange people were a little short on numbers and had to work str8 thru the day with no relief, Next year if you have time and would like to volunteer
That's dedication,lucky they didn't just walk off flag duty.Hope they and more return next year.8)
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If we only lived in a perfect world
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Without the orange people it wouldn't have happened. Thanks again guys. Cheers Jerry
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Hi all, as a marshall on the MX track I'm sure everyone will agree that they had heaps of track time, it was decided to allow the track to flow on both days, after people were not turning up on time for their sessions. I know and understand that in a perfect world riding with your own class would be the ideal situation but the guys on the gate made an executive decision to keep the 15min sessions but let everyone play together.Obviously the sidecars stayed with the program and even they struggled to get to their sessions ontime. As i said the fast guys will always get past and after watching the track for 8hrs over the 2 days the incidents and off's were very few and req'd bugger all assistance from the orange people & emt's which really showed the level of skill of you guys ( and believe me some of you where hooking in :) ) I know the closing of the track every 15mins was annoying to the guys who we let out and only did 2 laps, but the method in our madness was if we had to switch back too the program we could. but everyone seemed happy to just keep looping. I have also read that the watering was overkill but we only watered twice on sat & once on Sunday, this was mainly to keep the dust down as the road track is just over the hill. Another critercism was about the shutting down all tracks at lunch time, unfortunately this year the orange people were a little short on numbers and had to work str8 thru the day with no relief, Next year if you have time and would like to volunteer and help keep this event alive pls contact Peter Drakeford he is only to happy to have you on board and if the numbers are good then the system of working for an hour & spending an hour riding in your favourite discipline or chatting to mates & networking could be a reality. This year the orange people pushed on so that you guys could keep riding and tho it was not perfect I saw more smiles than frowns and the stationary yellow was just a reminder that it was not a race day and to slow u down near the entry point. Well thats my say on the w/end I enjoyed my time on the MX track ( even tho I am a Vinduro rider ) thanks for behaving and not running me over although a couple of u tried lol. Cheers The Wombat ( Red Flag finish line )
Thanks for the insight. :)
Just to be clear: I had no problem with the volunteers having lunch! I appreciate the time and effort that the volunteers put in, and they definitely deserve a break during the day (and OH&S probably demand it).
It just seemed odd that they ALL had lunch at the same time - what I was suggesting was that the MX guys could have had a break at a different time to the Vinduro guys, so that there would always be something happening somewhere in the complex. And also reduce the rush on the food providers...
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So if I'm reading the above schedule correctly... and let’s be clear I’m half way through a bottle of Russia’s finest vodka, if I turned up with my pre 85 bike I would have been allowed two fifteen minute sessions each day.
Wow, even Heaven givens more than that (if I’d bother to turn up) over two days without the drive to Melbourne. Is this what happens when you are all things to all people?
Silver lining – more time to drink and BS I guess, both things I’m much better at than riding...
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So if I'm reading the above schedule correctly... and let’s be clear I’m half way through a bottle of Russia’s finest vodka, if I turned up with my pre 85 bike I would have been allowed two fifteen minute sessions each day.
You'd be correct if they'd followed the programme, which they didn't.
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Now I would like to say I am not having a dig here…
…but it really must be Aussie VMX if throwing out your carefully planned programme results in a better event.
Sounds like a plan within a plan? ::) Just brilliant! The rest of the world would never understand.
Only in Australia. Gotta love it!!!
VMX42
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As I said earlier (in the other thread, I think), BBB seemed to be structured for the spectators more than the riders - particularly the MX - on the assumption that there would be heaps of both.
Basically, I think it was supposed to run a bit like a country show: At 10:00am, you can see the sheep being displayed, at 10:15am there will be sheep dog trials, and at 11:00am you can come and see the judging of the cattle... And over in the other arena, there's a flower display followed by the trophy presentation for the best jam.
By Sunday this was clearly not working as intended, and the marshals made some judgement calls that deviated from the programme (which were clearly for the benefit of the riders, even though I personally think that throwing the programme out would have been better for everyone). By that time, there were no spectators left - during Sunday's version of Legend Laps, I reckon there were about five times as many 'non-legend' riders waiting to be allowed back on the track, than spectators.
I guess that they'd tried to offer some point(s) of difference from Classic Dirt, but the size of the event does not allow them to work (yet?).
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Does Ron Kivovitch still twitch his head when under stress?
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I totally agree with Nathans thoughts on HBBB. The event is a 'new kid on the block' compared to Classic Dirt and are still going through the suck it and see stage of its life. The event is run by a beurocratic organisation (MA) so you'd expect a bit of structure overkill built into the plan. The set riding time plan pretty soon became non functional when they realised that it wasn't needed. The dirt track was also chopped up into divisions but it wasn't long before the 'orange shirts' loosened the reins and pretty much left it a free run.
I reckon that the more confident the organisers get that we can pretty much self regulate ourselves, there will be a much looser program. I enjoyed the HBBB because it wasn't a clone of the Classic Dirt concept. It's got a different vibe and overall intent, with dirt track, speedway and road racing sharing equal billing. I reckon there's plenty of room for both events, in fact I reckon they actually complement each other.
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Did anyone take a piccie of my rough old Honda 754 outfit they could post? :) The Pre75 sidecar is mostly black and yellow with a quaint airbrushed "Wasp" mural on the tank. My cameras SD card has come back from the "I will try to salvage the photos" man with a note basically stating it is totally knackered and have I dipped the camera in the piss of an Alpaca suffering from herpes... Cheers Tim754 Oh it was not on the race circuit.