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Marque Remarks => Honda => Topic started by: Nathan S on August 01, 2007, 07:31:10 pm

Title: Toy #26.
Post by: Nathan S on August 01, 2007, 07:31:10 pm
Dragged this home today... No ignition coil, but heaps of compression and nearly new chain and sprockets.
It came with a seat that I dropped off to have recovered before I even got home... non-rusty base!

I'm not sure exactly which way to go with it - it's too original to deserve a full-on resto (plus I wanted one of these because a couple of mates had SL100/125 paddock bikes when I was a kid, and it never occoured to me that they could be pretty), but it's also too rough and incomplete to leave alone without having it irritate me.
I recall seeing an old pic of one built into "race spec"  (in VMX?) and I think that's what I'm going to do - turn it into a cheap and cheerful 1971 style racer. Yeah, it'll be just as lousy as a race bike in 2008 as it was in 1971, but that's kinda the point.

So... it will get a big clean-up, possibly respray the frame (but definitely not the guards or tank), some tyres, some number plates and go riding. :)

(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f128/annaandnathan/Photo0173.jpg)
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f128/annaandnathan/Photo0174.jpg)
Title: Re: Toy #26.
Post by: Quicksilver on August 01, 2007, 07:39:45 pm
Damn boy  ;D Bugger ya. ::) You know what to do with road gear you pull off. My XL100 needs few bits.
Title: Re: Toy #26.
Post by: Rosco400 on August 01, 2007, 09:20:53 pm
Should add these to your collection to Nathan, just need to paint em red ;D

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/honda-SL-350-1971-plus-spares_W0QQitemZ180144961623QQihZ008QQcategoryZ102690QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: Toy #26.
Post by: Tim754 on August 01, 2007, 09:38:50 pm
Hmmmmmm Looks like something I would / could use Nathan.................. ;)Tim ::)
Title: Re: Toy #26.
Post by: Gerard De Ruyter (Twistandshout) on August 02, 2007, 08:20:45 am
is this the first incursion into the wonderful world of honda for you nathan?  i seem to remember something from the old forum which may mean this latest one is more showing a growing leaning toward red (metaphor only - honda didn't see the light colour wise till late seventies) and away from blue - good move.

my best mate had an sl125 when i was a kid and he dinked me round the tracks on it for years - we had a ball!  looks servicable too.  what year is it?  after the silver tanked model?
Title: Re: Toy #26.
Post by: dkupf on August 02, 2007, 08:53:48 am
It was one of these little bikes that started my love for bike riding. My brother and I just rode it( ::)didn't know you had to service it ::)) and it just kept going.The sl350 they think you should buy. Had one of them set up for flat track. It didn't go real well but sounded great :D Darcy
Title: Re: Toy #26.
Post by: Freakshow on August 02, 2007, 08:58:06 pm
NA6t we have a chap riding one down here and he does real well onit, except every now and the you pass a battery on the ground and then him  :O)

make sure you LOCK the BAttery down.  if you do you can ride em fast like a true shitter !
Title: Re: Toy #26.
Post by: vmxrider on August 02, 2007, 09:55:03 pm
Had one of those when I was in 5th form at high school. Used to ride to school every day and then fang around the local tracks on the weekends revving the absolute crap out of it trying to keep up with rich mates (those that left school and had jobs) on XL 175's and DT 250's. That thing was bullet proof except for that battery ignition which let me down on numerous occasions. I seemed to forever pulling into servos to get a quick charge on an ailing battery just so I could get home. Rode around a lot at night without lights on just to preserve battery power. Installed a 150 kit and it became a rocket. Could easily pull wheelies in third gear. Loved that bike. Lots of fond memories.................
Title: Re: Toy #26.
Post by: jimson on August 02, 2007, 10:24:20 pm
Good score Nathan it will sleep next to the next generation XL175 you will have to cover them so the Yamaha's don't get jealous. More gaskets coming your way in the post mate.
Title: Re: Toy #26.
Post by: caps 999 on August 03, 2007, 07:26:09 am
used to have one of these kicking around  ;D
Title: Re: Toy #26.
Post by: Nathan S on August 03, 2007, 02:05:20 pm
Definitely seem to be one of those bikes that people have a soft-spot for, based on the replies so far...  :)

Spoke to Tim the SL guru last night, and he's stirred up thoughts of 150 kits and methanol, and... Hmmm... maybe we'll just get it running first!
Although, does anyone have a SL125 motor they're willing to part with?


Gezza, As kids we all had four stroke Hondas (back when 4-stroke meant quiet and relaible - how things change...), so there's been a long list of old Hondas in my past... Though, I only owned two of them myself before I discovered the better Japanese brand.  ;D
The SL100 is sitting next to my two XL175s (one racer-to-be and one resto-to-be) and now an 87 CR125RH, so it won't feel too lonely...
As to the exact age... I dunno...  ??? Someone help? 



Title: Re: Toy #26.
Post by: Quicksilver on August 03, 2007, 03:05:54 pm
Would early XL125 engine be use Nathan. Same as SL i believe.
Title: Re: Toy #26.
Post by: Noel on August 03, 2007, 07:17:08 pm
Hi Nathan
Actually appears your may have a hibrid
http://www.motorera.com/honda/h0100/sl100/sl100.htm
www.motorera.com/honda/h0125/sl125/sl125.htm
I have a SL 125 done for methanol hiding in my garage awaiting some free time too 8)
Noel
Title: Re: Toy #26.
Post by: Nathan S on August 03, 2007, 09:59:05 pm
Interesting links Noel.
So it looks like a Candy Sapphire Blue K0 with K2 stickers? Weird. No sign of old stickers (faded paint, residue etc) or anything.
Has 19" F and 17" R wheels. Dunno how I'm gonna go finding a new 3.25x17 knobbie...

I'll check frame and engine numbers tomorrow. Does anyone know if the frame and engine numbers should match? (They don't).

Quickie, almost certainly yes. Are you about to tell me that I'm about to drive to Triple Buggery (aka Quickieville)?

Title: Re: Toy #26.
Post by: Quicksilver on August 03, 2007, 10:14:19 pm
 ;D Looks like your doing road trip :o.. 17 inch nobby. a 275x17 any use? Not the size your after but I have one should you need it...... Did you still want that YZ250K as well? Its here too.
Title: Re: Toy #26.
Post by: jimson on August 03, 2007, 10:21:31 pm
Nathan SL100 has two down tubes on front of frame. I think the SL125 has one down tube at the front.
Title: Re: Toy #26.
Post by: Noel on August 04, 2007, 07:39:29 am
Probably only a 125 pipe on the 100.
I found a 325 17 trials tire from Kenda not sure if the have a full nobby.
Noel
Title: Re: Toy #26.
Post by: Quicksilver on August 04, 2007, 12:26:49 pm
Nathan.

Sorting though some bits today deciding what stays and what goes. I do have a quite good 325 x 17 nobby..
Title: Re: Toy #26.
Post by: Tim754 on August 04, 2007, 06:13:54 pm
SL125 /100 use same frame OK. 100 has 19F /17R  inch wheels  125 has 21F/ 18R .  both have different shaped metal mud guards.  Later XL  CT CB CL 100 and 125 fit in, but you may have to swap sides and invert the front engine mounts from the early models ,and it all matchs up. Single downtube frames are Agi CTs and later XLs All "SL "100 /  125s have twin down tubes. .........Chinese upright motors fit   ;)...... OK.  and yes CB500/4 pistons do fit so buy a 500/4 big bore kit and have 4 x150cc sets.  ::) Tim
Title: Re: Toy #26.
Post by: gorby on August 04, 2007, 08:16:20 pm
some thing in memory bank tells me that early SL100's have a smaller piston pin,

that seem right Tim?

ps (havent forgot your parts)
Title: Re: Toy #26.
Post by: Tim754 on August 05, 2007, 08:36:04 pm
A limited number do, some 125s do too.
Title: Re: Toy #26.
Post by: Freakshow on August 08, 2007, 08:24:07 pm
  All "SL "100 /  125s have twin down tubes. ........  and yes CB500/4 pistons do fit so buy a 500/4 big bore kit and have 4 x150cc sets.  ::) Tim

geeze Timbo i thought youd get there but you didnt quick i was reading and reading and just waiting for the fit a 500 ...oh and rig a chair on it and a third wheel :O)
Title: Re: Toy #26.
Post by: Tim754 on August 09, 2007, 11:35:27 pm
I have an early effort of what you spoke Freaky... Gave the front end (XL350) to Tony T recently. yes the 500/4 was made to fit in the 125 frame, was to flimsy so rebuilt with hybrid 550/4 Sl125 mix .both were solos.... and truly awful.... and a prick to make a set of headers and pipe! Those days seem to be over now for me so try some ideas yourself , it occansionly is worth the pain. Tim