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Marque Remarks => Spaniards (Bultaco, Ossa, Montesa etc) => Topic started by: Dinsdale on February 27, 2010, 09:02:42 am
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Hi all, can any one tell me anything about the colour of my 1980 Cappra 414 VF fork legs, apart from being sort of calf shite green that is? A paint code would be really usefull. Cheers.
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No! shite green is the colour of the lower part of the side covers ;D (actually Drab Olive or Olive Drab depending who you talk to). The fork legs is Marzocchi Magnesium and is more of a Mustard shite ::) ;). This paint colour has had several long discussions on this forum.
Jared supplied a paint formula from a 'Limco' paint system.
LB807 (red oxide) 3.90
LB100 (mix clear) 51.00
LB403 (Carbon Black) 100.50
LB704 (Ferrite Yellow) 223.90
LB900 (bright white) 328.40
LB303 (yellow shade green) 345.90
LMC1 (clear mix) 495.80
It means nothing to all the local paint shop near me (Australia)
Solomontesa have spray cans of the colour
http://solomontesa.com/tienda/index.php?cPath=79&osCsid=ce0553213a35c052d226d7a8dc37f403
It is not possible to get it shipped to Australia unfortunately, but I think you are in the UK?
If you do get a paint code or formula please post it here.
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You would think that the KTM people would know the correct colour.
I tried a PPG paint #25385 but it looks wrong.
(http://www.southwestmontesa.com/ebay/forkleg2.jpg)
I also tried this colour, but it looks incorrect as well.
(http://www.southwestmontesa.com/ebay/vbwheel.JPG)
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Jared that last picture looks like he colour i have sprayed the forks on my bikes it's called reed green,i left a good fork leg with a paint shop so they could make some up alas not a good match another colour i have used is slate green a closer match but can no longer get it,gold is too metalic but hey its better than legs that look crap when the paint wears off.
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You can see the difference between shite green and mustard shite below. The forks are the best my paint guy could mix it is OK in the photo but I know it is not right as it is missing a hint of metalic appearance.
(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae123/montynut/right-1.jpg)
(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae123/montynut/frontforks.jpg)
Not sure why the fork photo is on its side but I can not seem to work out how to fix it ???
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if you have a part with the original colour ,take it and get the paint shop to computer match it ,easy
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Does not seem to work Paul my paint guy tried it and the colour came out a shocker . I think the original 'paint' may be some sort of none paint coating as it also appears to be on the inside of the forks as well or is translucent. Possibly an early version of Powder Coat? Whatever it is a pain to replicate
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The problem is finding a part with the original colour that has not
faded or changed the shade.
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I used an area on the steering stem which had the original 'paint' and was in perfect condition but still no luck with the computer. The paint guy was scratching his head as it should have been OK.
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mmm ok / strange
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Here's a pic of my 414 with the original untouched forklegs (except for the new decal)
You can just see the top of the leg, which was covered by a forkwiper. Two different shades! ???
(http://www.southwestmontesa.com/ebay/legdecal.jpg)
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one off my friends is a expert colour matcher ,i will ask him why the computer wont match it properly
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Smootherite spray cans in gold. grey ally spray primer 1st. Pretty good.
sandy
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I've had some paint mixed up and have sprayed the legs, looks pretty good to me, I'll post some pic's on here when I can get one of the kid's to show me how, I got the paint code from the guy that mixed it and if anyone thinks it's a good enough match I'll put that up as well. Cheers.
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has anyone got the colour right yet let us know
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(http://i323.photobucket.com/albums/nn458/mx250syd/frontforks.jpg)
Hey Monty, you're using Photobucket, go to 'edit' press the rotate left or right bottom and hey presto ;) :D.
P.S. The colour looks pretty good by me. 8)
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Is that Greg's VF 250? :o
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Yes ;D Why??? whats wrong. Does not look the same now unfortunately. Note to self STOP FALLING OFF ::)
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I can't believe you race that bike Greg. :'(
Why don't you put some pics up of it sometime?...... :P
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(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae123/montynut/rightside-1.jpg)
(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae123/montynut/rightengine5.jpg)
(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae123/montynut/leftside5.jpg)
(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae123/montynut/leftsideofengine.jpg)
(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae123/montynut/rearbrake-1.jpg)
The trials bike ideal for you Ross
(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae123/montynut/leftside-2.jpg)
H7
(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae123/montynut/frontrightquarter.jpg)
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Did you get the fork/sidecovers paint matched at a paint shop? It very, very close to the real thing..... :P
The trials bike ideal for you Ross
(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae123/montynut/leftside-2.jpg)
Yup. I could make that look second hand real quick..... :D
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Forklegs done by paint shop. The side covers sprayed by me using spray can with flex agent added and plastic primer. 'drab olive'
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What brand the 'drab olive'?
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After so many beautiful bikes the last MXer's the designer should of had his eyes poked out.
Very tidy and well done thou.
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The side cover paint was mixed by a local auto parts guy who can mix spray cans. The Drab Olive is an international standard colour. I have side covers without the drab olive for riding as they are easier to maintain.
Unfortunately the fork legs have proven to be a pain in the a%$# because they chip easily even tough 2 pack was used. The primer seems to not have stick well. The painter was told that they are mag alloy. The triple clamp paint at the same time are still perfect.
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Do the fork legs suffer the chipping because of the fork oil leaching through the legs. I had a powder coater comment about this when I was thinking of getting some legs coated. In the end I thought better of it but any coating on the legs would be subject to the same possibility.
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I thought about powder coat but impossible to get the correct colour in Australia at least. The fork leg porosity idea is a definite possibility something I had not considered as te legs never look oily but still possible. I may consider sealing on the outside with POR or something similiar.
Jared told me that some people have had problems with Marzocchi mag alloy fork legs distorting during powder coating so I didn't even consider it after that.
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(http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae123/montynut/leftside5.jpg)
Brick ripple strip on the inside edge - that should keep her on t'he straight and narrow' (http://i323.photobucket.com/albums/nn458/mx250syd/icons/smiley79.gif)
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Yep three daughters and missus all with cars plus a 3.5m drive. Running off on the "sharp" bends ??? >:(. Brick discouragement worked and only had to realign a couple of times ;) Not a word from anyone but cars now stay on tar ;D
Was a little embarrassing when I hit one with wheelie bin and lost control but a small price to pay ::)
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It was a wild guess ;D.
Nice Bike 8), but I agree with the other comment about been a bit of a let down on atheistic appeal after the high point of the GP's, VR's and even the VB ::).
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BUT they are different you must agree ;) and could not be mistaken for anything else. They go much better than most people realise.
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By no mean an ugly bike just not up to the high water mark set by the earlier Monties. To my eye it looks like a collection of parts without regard to colour. Whereas the earlier Monties had an certain artistic integrity 8).
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I love the look of them. Especially the VE's. They look like what they are. A motocross tool! Built to race motocross and nothing else. Four speed, limited gearing (you'd be lucky to get 100 k's out of one geared up) and all the good bits that you could put on a bike (at the time). They were built for the Euro tracks of the day (something like our tracks have become now).
No. I think they look exactly how they should.... 8)
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After so many beautiful bikes the last MXer's the designer should of had his eyes poked out.
I agree, they must have sacked the original design team, this model looks a bit like a miss match of parts left over from other models. Having said that, I reckon that's a positive, it separates the Monty from all of the bland white, yellow and red plastic bikes that make up the majority of the pits these days. The VF cries out at the top of its voice "Look at me World, I'm different" with a gay, Spanish accent.
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That's funny. To me it says in its best spanish "Hey whitey. You keep starin' at me and I smash you face in...." ;)
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Geeze Firko that's the second reference to gay Spanish or Anglo Spanish today. You must have had a bad experience recently :-X.
I think the VB series was the best looking followed by the white VG series and then the VF. The early VR's with the black guards are not (in my opinion) as nice looking as the '74 series.
Have never been a big fan of the appearance of any of the Rickmans but if they float your boat that's great. Having said that they have that 'functional' look very much like all the Euro MXers.