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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: Doc on November 28, 2007, 07:53:10 am
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Cool poster Doc.what year was it?
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It'd have to be 1976 I'd say....
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Yeah from memory you are right 414 ;)
I believe it was the first of the posters. I have a good mind to get in touch with Golden Breed and see if the prints are available for other years that may be of interest. Up to '81..after that era I regressed and went back to the 70's to live it over again and again...and again ;D
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I'd be more than happy to part with some cash for a repo of one of those posters. Anyone know where I can get one?
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Here's our man from 1978; I reckon your Golden Breed bloke was an earlier version.
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'76 for sure. The next Sun 23 May was in 1982.
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This, another from May 1976.
The '76 5 round series was the first to run outside of NSW
with the prior 2 series confined to Amaroo Park only.
How do I know..I just read about it. So it all started in 1974 ;D
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Brian Martin was mentioned as a Kiwi contender..who was the other?? ;)
the poster below also adorned my walls as a nipper even though skeg's were the enemy! :P
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/Doctor_Suzuki/ForgottenIsland.jpg?t=1196245951)
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The other Kiwi would have been Peter Ploen on an RN400. He was a very quick and spectacular rider but he face planted far too often to be a serious threat in the series. I believe he still has the odd vintage ride in NZ. Brian Martin was in reality only half Kiwi as he had been an Aussie resident for many years by 1976.
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Firko..no, not Peter Ploen and not an RN400. 'So far as I know' Anthony Gunter and Neville Cutts were the only riders to get the RN and that was about 1979 flown out especially for Gunters MRMX assult.. ;)
anyone else know who this Kiwi was?.... :P
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I wasn't much into motocross back then so I don't really know that much about the 70s in Australia, but wasn't there a guy called Ivan Miller, or something like that? He was big in the mid 70s I think.
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If anyone has posters I can get them copied. I've got 4 MR Motocross posters but they are later ones, 1984,85,86 and '87 Still cool posters but not as good as the earlier ones.
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Doc, the NZ Suzuki distributors Colemans issued one each to Ivan Miller and Peter Ploen (see VMX mag #19) and Peter rode this bike, not an Aussie-issued one. He also rode in Mr MX on a Kawasaki in 1980 when Brisbane-domiciled. He is still riding, and winning, today on an RM 250, and has flogged Brad Lackey a few times over there as well. He was NZ's first resident professional mxer, and still has the eyes of a naughty little kid....
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Sorry Doc,
But Peter Ploen definitely rode an RN400 in the Mr Motocross. I saw him at Amaroo Park in '75. A wild and crazy Kiwi and a really likeable character. There are even some pics of him competeing in Issue 19 of VMX.
And lets not forget Ivan Miller. I remember him [and Gunter] arriving at Amaroo park with 2 Suzukis crammed [and I mean crammed] in the back of a Suzuki Carry Ute. Remember the Carry was a 360cc, 2-stroke beast, it would have taken an eternity to get to Amaroo from Suzuki HQ in Camelia in one of those overloaded things. In fact I have never seen a vehicle struggle with the rough access road into the pits like the overloaded Carry. I was sure it was going to tip over at any moment. I forgot to watch it try to get back up the hill after the races, I am sure it would have needed a good push.
The RH500 for the '79 series [that Gunter used to clean sweep the Amaroo Park decider] did in fact to to Neville Cutts in WA and then dissappeared back to Japan to never be seen again. I remember Gunter got off line and ran wide coming off the main straight jump and ended up in the erosion ditch - he never backed off and simply jumped back onto the track without losing the lead. It looked easy but I am sure it took his beath away.
Great days [and terrible hot dogs]. Ah!! the memories of Amaroo Park
VMX42
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Here's another piece from 1978; it shows the winners since inception in 1974.
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http://www.sameoldstory.com/ this is a good web site for all those old school shots !
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My brother had a Mr Motocross poster on his garage wall for years. It had John Behrens (correct spelling???) doing a great crossup wheel stand on a husky 360. I asked him what happened to it when he moved house and he said he threw it out because it had a few rips in it. I cried!
Ed
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OK, Doc, put us out of our agony, it's been bugging me all day at work : who was the other mystery NZ rider? It's a tough one, I was thinking Gary Goodfellow, saw him go nuts on a 125 in a support race at Mr MX at Broadford, musta been 1979 though.... was it Ross Horsburgh on a Honda ?
And, re Johnny Behrens - grouse, go #191 !
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okies well I stand corrected on the RH400 in 1975 :P This really is interesting anyway as I loved the MR MX series in the early days buuuuut still the riders name I am looking eludes all..it's not Ivan Miller, not Peter Ploen..but *E**R *O**E .. 8)
Unless the magazine contains an error in the report of course (which is quite possible) the riders name has not yet been mentioned. It's weird as I always thought this guy was an Aussie but then I was wrong with the RN's so eh, entirely possible I was wrong with his nationality.
GD66 to put you out of your agony I'll PM you the name ;) If this is wrong than I am not to blame as I have simply copied what was written way back when men were men and sheep were nervous :P
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DING ! And the light goes on ! Sneaky, Doc, but if you are referring to Peter Boyle, yes, he did ride for Phil Thew for a coupla years, but is from Wellington, his dad Frank was a partner in Lawton and Boyle in Wellington with renowned 2-stroke tuner Dick Lawton, and IIRC Peter was a NZ 125 champ, and a good guy, few could lay a glove on him aboard a 125 in the 70s. Had me going there.... ;)
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;D we have a winner!! GD66 has it! I never knew Peter was a Kiwi but, yes..he sure did ride for PTM! Did I ever mention this is where I bought my RM's from :P :D The Phil Thew riders were my inspiration though obviously I never worshipped them enough to delve into hometowns :)
TMWilliam and DEEEJ should have pounced on that one! I got the lowdown on Peter Ploen from Bill when he was over and I've seen some recent pics of him in action..he still looks really bloody fast! :o
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Magoo..the poster shown above actually came from the Golden Breed site.
http://www.goldenbreed.com/POSTERS2.html (http://www.goldenbreed.com/POSTERS2.html)
I'm awaiting an email reply as to whether other years are available but here's hoping ;)
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The artist who did the Mr Motocross poster, Peter Ledger died tragically (car crash?) in the USA a few years ago. His stuff sure was distinctive. He was a member of the Scaysbrook/Tesoreiro Willoughby club clique back then.
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Yep ya right Doc, it brought back some memories. I use to have the exact same poster up on my wall back in the days when I was going to be a motoX star ;D I'm not sure about the Golden Breeds site etc but I'm sure my poster came from the back of a Revs mag.
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oldmotoxer..yep! I still have many many Revs from 75-80 but sadly the MR MX posters have been raped and pilaged long ago..by me :P I'll go through what's left and post some more so long as no-one is gonna pounce on me for copyright :o I have a goody of Per Kitland and a really nice orange TT500 when new as i saw them when perusing for MrMX stuff, ads for XT's, XL's, CR's, RM's and more exotic stuff. Might just keep adding them here when I find something intersesting. :)
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I've still got the original MR MX poster with the crossed up husky. Guess i'm a motocross tragic or an A class hoarder. Its a bit tatty but has survived all these years. My mates and i worshiped that poster. It was when the 4 rounds were run at Amaroo Park. I remember there was a bit of a promotion at Roselands shopping centre in about 1974 and some of the riders were handing out these posters. Not sure but i think Chris Dixon from Macklin motorcycles was one of the riders. We were immature 14 year old dickheads so we then went out and painted XR75 on the bus shelter. I'll try and post it up tomorrow.
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Doc, TMB wasnt pulling ya leg about Peter. He is still one of the fastest riders in VMX and if ya wanna see a picture of him, go to the photo page "just a photo", thats Peter kneeling down looking at the old 'velo'. He is one cool rider to watch. Anyway Doc, the MX historian over here is 'MotoXrox', but he is ill at the moment, he has this really bad growth on his bum cheeks, its all red and his doc told him its CRF250itise and their is no known cure. ;D ;D
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I wouldn't doubt a word of it DJ ;) I was in spares at Brisbane Kwaka when he was here punting around the green meanies on the MX scene and Iian Pero was riding the black stuff. I think Iian was a kiwi too :o they're everywhere!!
Here's another couple of pics. No explaination needed..
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vmxrider, I'd love to see that poster. I had a few but long gone now excepting 'I think' is the 85 series, it's in the workshop, tatty but on display ;D I had what I believe was 10th anniversary poster also. It had all the previous posters in the one..sad to say it's only a memory now :(
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Doc I was at that meeting in Wallan............ ;D Shame the old photos I had burnt in the shed fire. >: Hey I raced at that track on minibikes ,first on my Z50a , then on Gemini 50cc and 80cc's ,The little Taiwanese horrors blew the Hondas away so they banned them from the all the following meetings, you could only ride Honda's or "Home made minibikes!! Still it was on land owned and sponsored by a Honda dealer..... ::) Funny the meetings stopped when the Mighty YZ80B appeared! They were really in my opinion the first true shit hot production MX miniracer. Cheers Tim
Anybody got some pre1976 Photos of Wallan Solos Minis or the mighty Sidecars?? ;)
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I remember Ivan Miller racing the Mr Motocross series in '77 and Gary Goodfellow did a few rounds in those days also. They were both super fast Kiwi's. Miller and Gunter had some great battles at Tivoli that year. Peter Boyle and Peter Ploen also lived in Qld in the late 70's and i raced againt them both. They were unbeatable on their day. Boyle was spectalular to watch and either won or crashed. I can recall Geoff Worrell, Anthony Gunter and Peter Ploen all riding RH and RN Suzukis in '74 and '75.
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I have a suspicion that SUZUKI 211s '74 RN 400 is possibly the same bike that Ploen rode or am I off the track Dave?
I remember Ploens bike had the old suspension in the '75 Mr Motocross against the new fangled 'long' travel bikes that were emerging putting him at a bit of a disadvantage. Both Worral and Gunter were on long travel RH75's in the '75 Mr Motocross.
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According to the article, Dave's RN400 is ex-Geoff Worrell, 1974 model. God they are horn lookers, and most memorable, there is a shot in VMX #19 of Miller's 400 under a tent at Taupo from a New Years' Day mx, I would know cos I'm crashed out behind the bike, taking a rest from commentary during the lunch break, and enjoying a New Years' hangover...,. ;)
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I saved a couple of jpgs of the Golden Breed posters a while ago (also hoping that they might be re-released) - I'm sure this is one of the early ones - just not sure of the year - pretty sure it is 74.
I had them all up on my wall when I was a kid - the surfer, the skateboarder, the caterpillar with the hookah (what the hell that meant back then I had no idea ;D) and of course the Mister Motocross ones.
So many memories of Amaroo Park - but my favourite was seeing Graham Smythe come over from WA and blasting that berm at the end of the straight. I went straight home that day and put 02A on my BMX bikes numberplate!
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Here's the other one I saved. Definitely one of the later ones.
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Here's my one, its tatty but has survived.
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I've not seen so many MrMX posters for a looong looong time..great stuff!
this is my offering, it adorns my garage wall located right beside an old litho copy of a CR250M (just out of shot to the left) I had the whole set once. I think his (artists) name 'Alan Pucket' he did many many bike paintings but he also did a naked lady mural on a TZ350 fairing back in the day. I can't remember who's bike though?? Around the same time as Warren Willing and Greg Handsford were dishing it up the yanks at Daytona. 76-78 era possibly.
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The Alan Puckett " Naked Lady" adorned the TZ350 Yamaha fairing of Vaughan Coburn, #98.
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I think our man rivals Che Guevara in the iconic image stakes - and a few of us would love copies of these posters 8).
Is there anyone on the forum who knows how to go about this with the resources we have?
I tried on the work copier but it predictably blurs the larger we go.
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Like I said before, if you have an original poster, I can get it copied.
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Vaughan Coburn..bloody hell..right again GD66!! :o
I couldn't think of his name for the life of me but I can still see the bike plain as day..I can't imagine why ;D
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I just got a reply back today from Golden Breed about the MR MX posters...
hi chris
we have original posters of the mr. motocross
and we will put that one and all of them soon on our website
so hopefully you will be able to view them shortly (P.S. we do not sell them sorry)
All the Best Nick
Might have to ask them for a hi-res copy since they don't sell them :P
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I've never fully understood the reasoning behind 'we don't sell them anymore'...
If they have the originals and the copyright why would they hold back?
Retro copies of any product will always sell enough volume to justify the costs of a re-print.
There's a cottage industry for just about everything nowadays; replica footy shirts are a good example as are the retro MX jerseys.
They won't take the world by storm but you can't tell me there's no market for them - what a shame. :'(
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yeah it's a little sad Wombat but on the other side of the coin, is the glass half full or half empty..better than nothing which is pretty much what we started with. I reckon collage them all when they become available and make 1 nice big poster 8)
There is a Mr MX fleecy available too (wrong time of the year I know but it makes them a sale and might buy me a good price..I think he said $45) waiting for a pic to see what they're like before committing. :)
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Hmmm, I'd like to see that fleecy...; I have a vague recollection of owning a fleecy back in the day (cut the sleeves off) and it had a motocross graphic on the front - I wonder if it's the same one?
I used to sit in the back of a top-down Mini Moke wearing the fleecy and the open face helmet with two bikes in tow 8).
and the poster collage idea is a good one!
Perhaps Magoo can assist with that? ;)
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Hey Doc, maybe send Nick the link to this thread - he might change his mind, or maybe be willing to help us out with some decent images to do our own run of replicas? They probably don't realise this whole vintage MX thing is so big now. He'd have to disregard the bit about the collage tho...
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This Mr.Motocross must of been suffering from some bad arm pump.
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:D yes..although he does look to be in quite a deal of pain the cyborg units of the '80's are actually only suitd to one model..the CB750! Not successful but very crash tolerant and hours of entertainment for the billy lids ;)
Greame..not a bad Idea..I could always edit the collage bit on my part ;D
oops!! and this bit too! Doh!! ::)
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Here is the link to the coburn machine withthe Pucket painting
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~puckett/images/coburn.jpg
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thanks Xel93..just as I remember her..I wonder if it survives to this day or if it was tossed down the track and destroyed? Life is just full of such ponderings :P
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In Reply to Tim754 regarding photo's of Wallan,I have a few to contribute.These shots are 1 -(Black and white shot) My friend Darrel Turner (141) and Myself (28) on XR75 K0's 2-Start Gate for my race Typical start line "chock a block" with two divisions (second Division waiting at start Gate) .Wallan always had a hugh turn up and it was nothing to have 350 to 450 bikes (and all Honda's) They were great days indeed
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I also have a couple more shots of my Bro Stuart Gundry Racing against Lucus Reynolds on the MR50 at Wallan that I think is a great shot.Lucus is running first with the rear end hanging out and my Bro's is right behind him in second spot.The second photo is My Bro ready for start of race Number 35.
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Steve, is that the same Darrel Turner from Bendigo who rides Bultacos in vintage? If it is, he's a nice bloke, haven't seen him since CD3 at Barrabool.
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Yes Firko Darrel does ride Bultaco's and he has restored a couple of them and they are magnificent .He is from Ballarat and he is very handy riding them to i might add.This is an old shot at wallan with Darrel trying to nogotiate trading in his sl70 for a new xr75 I think (he has the blue bell cap on ) with Mick Oliver who had the Honda dealership in Burwood many years ago
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Tim, saw your comment re the Wallan and the Cheney Patterson Honda Mini bike rallies. We must have been riding there at about the same time as I rode Honda Dax and Honda SL70, Wallan property was owned by Ray Owen, great Victorian short circuit rider (read Dirt track). Russel Bergmier used to date one of his three daughters when I was swinging for him. Ray sold up in the 90s and moved to the Gold Coast with about 30 hagon Japs, bullies etc. Lost contact with him as I went to Mt Isa for a few years. Great track with thatb firts uphill drag race to the top after rounding the end of the straight corner. Loved the downhills, if you were game you could pick up heaps of ground as long as you could handle the off camber corners. Was a great breeding ground for future stars as I raced with the Bailey boys and both of the Cramers. Can remember Malcolm Fraser turning up to a senior meeting there once when he was matey with Bert Flood and had a couple of enduro models. Thats what we need know, a few pollies in VMX. Catchya.
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Tim did you live around the burwood box hill area? I lived in box hill and raced at wallan on my Z50 which had most of its hot up work done at mic olivers it was our local shop.
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Grew up in Eltham, rode for the Northern Suburbs Mini Bike Club, first on a Z50 then a series of Geminis and an modified SL70 . All new paid for by me from years of doing morning paper rounds and mowing and cleaning yards. Z50 $249.00 same as Gemini 50 . $249 sounds cheap but really in late 60s early 70s it was a fortune correct!!
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hey Tim I rode at Northern Suburbs too on an SL70 must have been between 75 & 77 I guess . My race number was 42 at that track (not affilliated with vmba) must have race a k4 xr75 there too cause i think i remember a pic with both the XR & the SL wearing #42. we were restricted to 75 cc at Northern Suburbs so I stopped racing there when I bored the SL to 82 cc during a rebuild.