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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: misfit on December 30, 2009, 10:54:08 pm
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Like some other young people i have been driving myself insane for a couple of years trying to work out just what sort a career i would like to pursue. The automotive industry has been my main focus but someone suggested to me that maybe i should consider doing a course or an apprenticeship as a motorcycle mechanic, as i love bikes and am always playing with my small collection at home (all vintage bikes). is there anyone out there who has a job which involves vintage bikes? i know of businesses interstate and oversees which set up bikes for vintage motocross, does anyone do that in Queensland? Any advise would be appreciated because i really have no idea what to do beccause like everone else i dont know what the future holds.
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Mechanics are about the most poorly paid and least valued of all tradesmen, no matter how good they are at their trade.
Panel beaters and machinists, on the other hand, have skills that are respected by the general public as 'craftsmen', so are valued and renumerated more fairly. And the skills are more easily transferred to other fields, as economic circumstances and interest levels change.
I took up a trade in an area that I had an interest in and I predicted would be in demand for the foreseeable future - but it was never my passion (electronics, before you ask).
Unlike my mates who got into the automotive trade, I still have passion and enthusiasm for my bikes and my cars...
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If you love your hobby of motorcycling, DONT become a motorcycle mechanic, as in time you won't want to work on your own bike after working on other peoples allday. What Nathan said about wages is true too.
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Yes a few people do it in Queensland but there is no single trade that provides you with what you need to know to be a valuable employee or to succeed in your own VMX business. Some specialise in fabrication (tanks. frames etc), some do motors, some do suspension, some do hard chroming, some do decorative plating and some do just wheels. Some are generalists. Motorcycle mechanic trade is probably a good place to learn about bikes for a young person but the pay is pretty woeful and there is usually no exposure to VMX or hot-rodding.
The successful people I know in the VMX field have started as machinists or welders and have learned the ins and outs of motors, gearboxes, suspension, specialist welding etc outside of the official trade training routes.
If you are serious send me a PM and I will give you the contact details of a Queenslander who has been successful so you can ask them first hand.
PS I'm with Nathan S on this. If you can do something remotely interesting that has a future but not connected with motor bikes, then your passion for bikes will remain. I did a similar thing to Nathan with my career (but not electronics)and it has worked out well all along.
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Our 16 yr old son ,Has just completed Engineering trades course at High School and during that time and before hand spent many hours working in the mx engineering/ maintenance and sales on all ranges of bikes.. 8)
His love was High Performance.He learn't along the way....
1:this had to be done in the city 200km away
2: low money
3 : Long time to get to top.
4: Competition for employment,(this is usually family owned shop competition).
These things put him off a bit,so as we said "you like mechanics why don't you try Diesel Heavy Duty Plant work experience.... HE LOVED it and the money of course the coal industry gives :P He applied and starts on the 18th..
If you are in Qld I believe there is some serious mining going ahead in the Dalby area..
Ahh your young- loads of time to choose ;D
Enjoy 8)
cheers
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Speaking from a tradesperson point of view.... choose a trade that you have a passion for and will keep you employed for the length of your apprenticeship.
Wages will be low at beginning, but in time you will have have a license to print it ;)
In Qld I believe the building industry is where it's at ( major construction ) conditions are good - hours are flexible - money great .
And what Ji107 has posted
Good luck
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All the above replies offer good advise :) DO NOT TAKE AN APPRENTICESHIP IN AUTOMOTIVE ::) Nathan summed it up real well :)
If you really want to be a mechanic i would suggest look in this order
Aircraft (planes Choppers )
Heavy automotive (Diesel)
Auto electrical (Sparky)
Marine (boats watercraft)
Motorcycle (bikes)
Small engines (mowers)
Sanitation engineer (Shithouse cleaner)
Pox doctors clerk (self explainitary)
Road sweeper
And any other job you can think of first rather than
Automotive engineer (Cars vans )
With Boats bikes etc they are generally peoples pleasure so they dont mind spending , a car is a neccesity and any expenditure on it is usually a negative experience.
Heavy diesel is usually commercial so maintence and repairs are expected and exepted .
I speak from many years of experience as a car mechanic (Automotive engineer ::) ) Like you i was young and keen and thought man what a cool job , got very qualified and if i say so myself i was a bloody good mechanic .
The major problems are the industry and public perception , the industry is basicly shit and those within it show no solidarity . Example if the industry said Right the minimum charge out across the board is $200.00 p/h and everybody in the industry got behind it then after the initial public outcry that will become the accepted minimum charge , and they could pay the mechanics a decent rate.
Why is it accepted to pay a Lawyer $200.00 a letter ??? 5 yrs at varisty or a 5 yr apprentiship whats the difference ???
Public perception Everybody believes they can fix their own car ::) " im not paying that bastard ill do it myself " this is becoming increasingly difficult though with modern technolgy ;D
Also the public are always suspisous "did that really need replacing" and a total lack of understanding of motor vehicles dont help " I had my brakes replaced last week & now the aircons packed up he must have done somthing wrong " ::) ::) ::)
I held all the positions over the years technician, Foreman, manager, w/shop owner working on cars, trucks, bikes and plant until eventually i quit and went full time Towing ;D
Benefits are
Shitloads more money
Dont have to be polite to rude people
People expect to pay in cash
People expect a bad experience (so if your polite they think its a bonus )
A shitload of time to play with bikes between Tows ;D
My advise to you Misfit is study hard at School and talk to a careers adviser (a professional not the school one) Go to varsity get a degree and become a professional not a tradie :)
If you have your heart set on a trade you could do one after Uni.
Think very hard as most likley you will have to work for the next 50 yrs , so do somthing that will earn you shitloads for minimal time spent at work. (its not lazy its bloody common sense)
Good luck young man
Happy new year
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HERE, HERE!!!
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Something else to consider is that the current school age generation is going to be very lucky to have just one career before they retire.
The world is changing so fast these days that quite possibly, whatever you choose, will be obsolete in 20 years. So many fields of endeavor have been automated. I'm an audio engineer. I used to work for the ABC. I'd never have thought that television would do away with audio engineers. But that is what is happening. The ABC in Canberra doesn't have a single audio engineer in their main studio facility any more. All the sound for broadcast is done by a computer.
So I'm back to uni this coming year to study IT. I'm nearly 40. I'm lucky that I'm in a reasonable financial situation to be able to do this. Not everyone can stop work to retrain. Mind you, it'll take most of my savings to do it.
So, try to pick something that will see you through as long as possible. And bare in mind that changes in technology will mean that many jobs will not exist in 20 years, let alone 45.
Good luck with it.
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Yep now days if you stay in a job(engineering) longer than 5 years,,,they think your strange or unemployable.. ;D ::) .very transit work force in today's society.
Having a trade can take you all over the world for ever...Some Uni students never get a paid job ,cause they get caught up in the life style and stay put paying hex/heck fees ;D
cheers
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My advise to you Misfit is study hard at School and talk to a careers adviser (a professional not the school one) Go to varsity get a degree and become a professional not a tradie :)
If you have your heart set on a trade you could do one after Uni.
Good luck young man
Happy new year
I think Bill makes a lot of sense, think of education as a kind of insurance you buy to keep the money rolling in. The more broad it is 9like trade and degree) the more opportunities you have to change jobs and industry when it hits the fan. Currently a bachelors degree in most subjects except engineering, medicine and such is not enough, and you have to prepared to go to at least a masters degree as companies expect that you have post grad degree these days, the competition does.
You probably could make far more money like Bill says towing or in your own business. I will give you another perspective if I can.
I would say the two major issues you could consider starting out are whether to be self employed or work for someone:
pros and cons
1. self employment requires no formal skills and can pay handsomely during your working life in accumulated assets if not cash, has tax breaks and a few perks, BUT requires cash, has 80% chance of failure in first year and is a huge amount of stress, learning by mistakes that cost you money and work. Finally you will probably get little external recognition if that is important to you.
2. working for a company, pro is regular cheque, con is it takes time to make it a big cheque, at the moment the other con is in certain fields forget it as nobody is hiring so you need to pick with care. But if you work hard you can end up in higher management which pays quite nicely thank you.
Both paths require commitment, unless you are a serious academic or a career following your degree (like being a vet) is hitting you between the eyes then it can be time wasted. Realistically a degree is a 100K dollar commitment so think about the payback. 100K can get you a tow truck and a start in business.
good luck and I hope I helped...Marc
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i reckon 2 good trades are plumbing and Electrician. both are licenced trades.
i'm an Industrial Electrician and never been out of work, its been a great financial job for me and is extremely interesting and forever changing with technology, always challenging and never boring, i've been in industry for 30 years now and i love it and enjoy my job immensely.
Plumbing and building trades are also good, refrigeration mechanics are another no one else has mentioned, this is also a great trade.
Best wishes and Happy new year to all.
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From my own experience as a Earthmoving Mechanic . You only get paid what your worth it may take a while to get good money in a trade but once your set the moneys good and you can pick and choose . This year i was getting 3k a week on a pipeline job in melb .Go for a apprenticeship with a big dealer in earthmoving and you wont look back .Just remember you cant start at the top.Or a harley dealer in Mackay would be going okay
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Misfit, your spoiled for choice really, you can study hard and get a degree and become a 'professional' , you can do a trade (plumber sparky, diesel mechanic or a refrigeration tech are well paid trades)or you can seek a traineeship with a large corporation.
As Chris said get used to things changing as they do at a rapid rate, but blacksmiths still shoe horses the same way they always did. I'm sure people would have said blacksmithing was a dead when cars become common place.
There are big differences between working for large and small companies, small companies don't usually pay as good but you will have better conditions, large companies expect you to be at their beck and call 24/7.
Similar to Nathan's take ,there is also a big change going from a hobby/sideline to a fully fleged business, a hobby will help you forget the day job but no matter how pleasureable your hobby was it looses some gloss when it becomes a full time job. Time management becomes very important.
Hope that helps
All the best for the new year everyone ;D
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Lots of good advice there Misfit.
My 'heads up' is make your aim to get your ticket/qualifications - documented. Being able to do the job is not good enough, ya gotta have the ticket - all to do with QA and management having their arse covered (insurance and liability).
Ask Hilly how much a diesel mechanic in the Heavy Equipment industry gets; Ask Hilly how much a diesel mechanic with an auto electrician and hydraulics ticket gets ;).
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Thats with all the tickets and experience ,like i said you cant start at the top . That was plus a V8 Diesel criuser and fuel supplied . There is that oppurtunity in all building and earthmoving but you dont get that for a 36 hr week.
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lots of good advice there Misfit, have a good look at mining in QLD, my sister and her husband are making real good money, they plan to do about 10 years up there and come home and put there feet up and relax ;D
sounds like a long time i know and not what you are looking for but once you;re set financialy the world is yours
goodluck
envious tony
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Looking at all the posts on here,I'd say diversification (such a word?) is pretty much what todays job markets are about,plus the ability to back yourself.
Misfit;with mining supposed to boom in Qld,you could do a lot worse than get an apprenticeship with the big companies out there.Get the Courier Mail on Saturdays and look in the mining and construction at the back of the job section.Most of them have internet details or e-mail addys,just get onto them and sell yourself.
Construction is a great place to get started as well,the building booms gotta bust one day,and trades will be screaming for tradesmen.
I did an apprenticeship in construction/hi rise.Mainly did set out,organising other trades,and formwork,from there I went into the housing area working for a concretor.Had my own business in concreting for 12 years.Things got quite I went back to construction where I went from being a concretor,to leading hand,to foreman in 14 months of joining the company.
All the advice on here is top shelf,as VMX247 posted- you're young,choose with half an eye on the future,plus,have another side door you can fall back on.
All the best for the New Year.Outta all these posts to your topic,something will stand out for you.
Cheers,Mark.
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All good advice from the guys.
Working in your hobby can turn into a drag sometimes, I love what I do but my own bikes always seem to fall back in the queue.
Uni is all well & good if you have the inclination, I could never have gone through it as I was already bored with school.
Qualifications are the way to go though & it's not an easy road. I remember as an apprentice younger guys were paid more than me working as trades assistants, eventually though as the years rolled by I ended up in a much better position
I wouldn't recommend metal or wood fabriction that much as it has been undermined from cheap imports, having said that though you can make good money in site work.
Most of the building trades would be good to get into as ready laid bricks or fitted switchboards can't be imported yet.
Some mechanics can make good money if you can move with the times, & the future of cars & bikes will be changing over the years to come, you have to choose what you want to specialise in, transmissions, auto electrics etc. & then know your stuff inside out.
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Heavy fabrication engineer (AKA Boiler maker welder..) Do the hard yards learning in this hot dirty trade. then work with in WA / QLd mines and associated spin offs. Take as one of my sons did for working Xmas day $448 per hour......
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thanks for the advise everyone, lots of things to consider there. i need to teach myself to not think about this constantly too i think. i have an upcoming km90 project which should take my mind off it a bit. but yeah as soon as you start career education at school all you seem to think about is jobs jobs jobs. it just about drives you insane if you are like me and dont know what to do. ill try and use the advise and keep myself sane
thanks
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Think about what people are always going to need, no matter what happens people are always going to need shelter, energy (electricity/gas), transport and food.
I agree with what all the guys have said here. I have gone the professional path and have never regretted it. Don't let not liking school put you off uni. I hated school and ended up getting honours in engineering - just because it was interesting stuff and I could see by the people I worked for that engineers were doing quite nicely. Spending time with like minded people (that know how to or want to make money) will show you the way.
Don't stress over the decision too much - it will come to you.
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I work in the service industry (carpet cleaning) where every man and his dog decides to go into business when they get a pay-out. However I found a bit of a 'niche' market and exploited it. The way I did that was to learn as much about what I do and learn a bit more again. I've always bought the best equipment that I possibly could afford at the time and for the market that I chased I would bend over backwards to cater to them. Learnt new skills that the other guys didn't think was important and always tried to look as professional as I possibly could (uniforms, docket books, sign writing etc).
Yeah working for yourself can get you down and you can't bitch about a boss however there's a ton of lurks and ringing Mrs Smith up to change her job from Wed to Thu so as you can go riding is one of them..... ;)
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Yeah working for yourself can get you down and you can't bitch about a boss however there's a ton of lurks and ringing Mrs Smith up to change her job from Wed to Thu so as you can go riding is one of them..... ;)
Plus all those Horny housewives you can fix up when you arrive in your Gimp mask & chaps only.........
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I work in the service industry (carpet cleaning) where every man and his dog decides I would bend over backwards to cater to them. Learnt new skills that the other guys didn't think was important and always tried to look as professional as I possibly could (uniforms, docket books, sign writing etc).
id like a reciept for every time you bent over backwards mr / thats the funniest thing ive read this year so far
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Heavy fabrication engineer (AKA Boiler maker welder..) Do the hard yards in this hot dirty trade. then work hard in WA ?QLd mines and associated spin offs. Take as one of my sons did for working Xmas day $448 per hour......
I'm a Boilermaker by trade and it provided me with a great income and the opportunity to learn new skills for over 40 years. The opportunity to work in mining, oilfields and pipeline construction and big overseas construction projects go hand in hand with the trade. If you're prepared to work at what is often a hot, dirty and heavy job the pay is extremely good. If you are keen enough you can learn all of the welding skills such as TIG,MIG,Arc,oxy acetylene welding including the almost lost art of bronze welding (brazing), machining and metal fabrication in general. The crossover of those skills to the motorcycle industry are pretty obvious and I've found that many of those involved in race car (and bike) construction started their working life as Boilermakers.
Above all, be happy in your chosen vocation. So many of us go through life being unhappy in their work. The key to a long and fruitful work life is passion. If you ever feel jaded at what you are doing, change direction, try something totally different and learn some new skills. I became a bit jaded with the job and entered the hospitality industry for a few years which not only taught me new skills, it recharged my batteries to return to the trade after 7 years away. Go for the job that can teach you the most skills to fulfill your long term goals and try and do as many extra curricular courses as you can. Don't be afraid to have a go at something new that interests you as you never know what you may end up doing.
If you would have told me that I'd be writing a book 20 years ago I'd have laughed in your face.
Everything is possible if you have the passion.
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Why is it accepted to pay a Lawyer $200.00 a letter ??? 5 yrs at varisty or a 5 yr apprentiship whats the difference ???
'cause some of us are stupid enough to do a trade then go to uni to study the theory we thought we'd missed out on ???
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Pest control tech, 8 am to 5.30, weekends off. Pay ok, plus overtime. Where do you live. In QLD, their over 250 Pest control companies, They will supply you with a phone, ute, fuel that would be a saving of 15,000 plus a year. You will have money in your pocket, spare time for vmx racing.
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I like this thread as it is such a reality and I am always thinking about my choice of job and ways of changing it . Unlike all that have posted, I am not happy with my choice (and is why i am thinking about it so much). The reality of just getting a 'good job' which included a trade as my father told me in my book are not top of the heap that is for sure. My thought patterns are a fair bit different.
I am self employed and feel it is the best way to go , even though not all forms are the go.
I am a motorcycle mechanic by trade. Dad got me an apprenticeship with the local shop that sponsored me. Thought I was set! Work on cool bikes, road testing the latest roadies and go racing on the weekends. Cool! Reality... under paid ,unappreciated, when something goes wrong you are a shit mechanic, when all is good its expected. After four years you are pretty much earning your life time potential . Okay so you are an exceptional mechanic and can get more. What, $100 a week more? $200?? Motorcycle mechanics wages are crap!
Okay. My take on self employed. As a pool tiler I work a long day most of the time, it is very physical and generally wears you down. I am also out in the elements and have no doubt that the sun is killing me ever so slowly, one day at a time. And because I work outside, even though I am 42 years old, I don't look a day over 55!
So if you are going to do a trade in the building industry, do one that can keep you out of the sun and isn't too physical. I think a sparky is a good one. Also one that you can employ people to do what you do and make you money when you take a week of to go to CD12! When I stop tiling, the money stops coming in!
Successful people are out there. Look at what they do for a living. For me a successful person is one that can have the toys, can also use the money they earn to make more in other venture/s and can take a week or three off without the money stopping. Chances are, that if you work for somebody, you are making them wealthy!
Also, don't just get a job till something else pops up. You will still be there in ten years time if you aren't careful.
Hopefully these aren't ramblings of a man with a sun melted brain! ::)
P.S dont be a pool tiler ;)
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I'd say don't be a pool tiler especially if you live in Qland .I'm sure the boys down here dont suffer those hot breezeless days as often or as much Brad
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I don't know how they get a days work done down there with four seasons in one day!
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I don't know how they get a days work done down there with four seasons in one day!
haha - easy ,when the spring rains come you stop for smoko , then you have lunch in the winter . ;D
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I would like to give my 2 bobs worth if I may "find a job u love and never work another day in your life again" I started my own m/shop and it was hard work but I loved it .it started out as a change over mower engine shop in my back yard and then developed from there.if bikes is your fist love then let nothing or nobody stop you.
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Brad , I remember how much my pool tiler charged me . I am sure they make a very comfortable living , breath fresh air , the house wifes spoil them with tea and coffee to get the job finishesd ASAP
I didn't say the money wasn't any good. I charge like a wounded bull but it still isn't smart money. You have to work too hard for it. I work in peoples back yards and see how the smart people live as well. BTW The fresh air is mixed with cement dust !
Some house wives look after you so well you don't want to go home. Others wouldn't give you the sweat off their back to drink.There were some that I wanted to lick the sweat off their backs....oops, too far!
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walter your pool is a big as a soccer pitch any wonder
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Misfit ..what about the Health professions or Counseling for needy VMXer's ;) ;D
cheers
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I'm not a tradie Im a shitkicker always have been I was slow at school Im even slower now ;D and as Brad said about working in the sun I've had cancer cut out of my back from being outside I worked a while ago digging the wet copper slag out of pools that have just been blasted for the tiler to come make it look nice. I've loaded & unloaded windscreens out of a furnace for years. I've worked in chemical plants and made batches worth over $25ooo 3 a day and now work in a wharehouse unloading trucks 90% by hand and Im talking front loader washing machines double stacked at 83kg each or double door 700ltr fridgers Im 43 and feel like Im burnt out. Don't get me wrong I like to work I just wished I put more effort in my schooling when I was younger and had more faith in my ability SO BELIEVE IN YOUR SELF AND GO FOR GOLD ;) jimson
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Brad , I remember how much my pool tiler charged me . I am sure they make a very comfortable living , breath fresh air , the house wifes spoil them with tea and coffee to get the job finishesd ASAP
I didn't say the money wasn't any good. I charge like a wounded bull but it still isn't smart money. You have to work too hard for it. I work in peoples back yards and see how the smart people live as well. BTW The fresh air is mixed with cement dust !
Some house wives look after you so well you don't want to go home. Others wouldn't give you the sweat off their back to drink.There were some that I wanted to lick the sweat off their backs....oops, too far!
such is (a tradies) life!
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I started out with a burning desire to be a bike mechanic. Motor bikes were my life at the time.
My dad convinced me that to work on bikes all day would soon reduce my interest in my own bikes and to look at something more varied but still in the mechanical field.
I ended up as a fitter and turner, looking back now I think it has been one of the most versatile trades around.
I’ve learned the skills I’ve needed to keep my bikes running and because I didn’t become a bike mechanic I’ve always kept an interest in finding out things, tuning, suspension etc, the things my trade didn’t cover. My original trade has given me the grounding and taught me to apply those skills to my bikes.
As for work, I’ve never been out of a job in 35 years and the range of work has included factory maintenance, automotive mechanic, heavy plant mechanic, mining, Oil rigs and even a few years building vintage aircraft engines and finally to the point of running sewerage treatment plants.
Once again, the range of skills I learned (Fabricating, welding, machining, fitting) have given me the grounding to work in different fields.
There is money to be made but most of it is in isolated places or in the big projects. For instance there should be a new gas plant going ahead in Darwin later this year. This will drive up wages for tradesmen again as happened with the last one.
As an aside. We have a training provider in our organisation, has a degree in Psychology and he uses this to target training to suit different people. He also assess and advises people in their current and future job suitability. He will talk to someone for a few hours and recommend a range of employment options to suit the person.
I think this sort of thing could be a valuable aide in determining what you may be doing for a long time to come.
Brent
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From what I've read here the concensus seems to be that whatever you decide to do, you should push yourself to keep learning new skills, and not be one of the many out there that can only do the basics. Whether that's in a trade or otherwise is up to you.
I'm a chippie, and I've worked with guys who can't cut a set of stairs, pitch a roof, or do finish work that doesn't look like a monkey did it. Being able to stand a pre-nailed frame or trusses, isn't going to be worth squat when there are no new houses being built during a recession.
I've worked with plumbers who've gone out and got qualifications to do specialised gas line work, and are making unbelievable money, becasue there aren't enough people qualified to do the work.
This was posted a little while back and is a pretty good read. Probably not helpful though ;D
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/24/magazine/24labor-t.html?_r=4&pagewanted=1
There were some that I wanted to lick the sweat off their backs....
As for you Brad, I'm thinking you should grow yourself a moustache?
"I'm here to tile your pool" (insert 70's porn music here)
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Well said champ 8). Brad would look like a 70's porn star with one of those moustaches. He could possibly make more money from "tiling the pool" too. Perhaps an undiscovered sideline ;)
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I think its far harder for the x-y and then z generatioms to actually figure out what to do with their life. In the "old days" you generally selected a job an d new the career path. I started as an apprentice mechanic with Athol Patterson but the parents in the 70s were adamant "professions" were the way to go. In 32 years I have taught in 3 states of Aust, overseas, "risen" to be a Principal and now descending slowly (Deputy Sherrif) before retiring. Taugt in 18 different school locations, The constant changes is perobably the only way I managed to stay in, as dealing with ugly parents, teachers and kids (roughly in that order) plus the beauracratic nonsense is tedious. Taught in Gold, Coal mining areas in Qld for 15 years and when times are good, things rock. but very depressing if you get caught owning real estate when things crash. Mackay experts say they can mine at the present or increased rates for 20-30 years, so mining may be an option but be wary. When I arrived in Mackay in 99 it was a depressed sugar town as mining was dead, and it could be tomorrow, if China doesn't want/need our coal. Mining companies aren't the most sympathetic went it comes to closures. After times in Mt Isa, Collinsville, Mackay my experience would say many come with the 5-10 plan to make i9t rich and return. most don't return until things bust. With not knowing what the future holds (as the boffins always says 50% of jobs in 2020 are yet to be created) tackle areaqs your intersted in and can see an career path and try and work through the work/life /money and your fav hobby balance(not much vmx in Mt Isa!).
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News Flash Re mining:China has ordered 600 million ton of Iron Ore this year. :P ;D
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From what I've read here the concensus seems to be that whatever you decide to do, you should push yourself to keep learning new skills, and not be one of the many out there that can only do the basics. Whether that's in a trade or otherwise is up to you.
Yeah you can't sit back, whether you have trade or profession it is a life long process of gaining a skill set that makes you better than the average bear. With trade you need a specialist skill or skills, with a profession you definitely need post graduate qualification. Then you need to establish a track record so your CV reads right.
I am interviewing accountants at the moment, I get them at their final interview stage after HR have finished and drill them on their CVs, you can always sniff out the problems from their work history. What I am looking for finally is a little old fashioned, and that is someone who will really appreciate having a job and make the most out of it.
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im no tradie either i had an apprenticeship when i left school in a non ferrous metal foundry hated every minute of it.loved driving and trucks startad driving at 21 im now 45 still driving still love it.driven every thing from utes to b doubles its taken me all over the country seen some amazing sights.i now only do local work driving semis delivering a product that every household uses driving late model well maintained european trucks(very comfy)do no lifting whatsoever and get paid $28 an hour its great.follow your heart.cheers gary
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Forget everything you just been told Misfit.
We just got back from 2 weeks away in rainy Qld. (perfect weather my arse) & I have just paid the kennels for looking after the 2 dogs. Bloody hell, I could have bought another bike for what they charged :o
I would have told them to keep the dogs but the divorce would have been more costly.
Forget Uni & it's hec's fee's, forget apprenticeships & it's low wages, just open up a kennel & you'll be on easy street.
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So you are the reason we have had shit weather ;D
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Well that definatly explains why we have had 2 weeks of shit weather, friggin Mexicans have been up here!!!!, who left the gate open? >:(
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Maybe it's that little black cloud that follows me everywhere I go ::)
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Don't worry, you're not the rain God GMC.. Malam is. ;D