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Marque Remarks => Honda => Topic started by: Power Stand on December 08, 2009, 01:00:27 am
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Its slowly getting there.
This was the starting point after 15 years in the shed and 23 years of ownership.
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Engine nearly complete, new barrel, con-rod, piston rings etc. All new bearings and some gears replaced. Basically, as new as I can get.
The frame is getting ready for painting.
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Got my new rims, excels and frame powder coated.
I painted the frame myself at first and I got the proper R-119 two colour with base white and flame red top coat. I stuffed up the clear 2-pack, I wasn’t use to applying the clear and the finish wasn’t right. I need to paint it wet looking to get the gloss and it was my second can of spray when it came together. I also missed the window of 40 mins from the base red to clear. I left it to the next day and apparently, they can laminate.
So, I found a powder coater and the closest colour match I could find. I have been cleaning and preparing all parts of the bike and still have a lot of prep work to do.
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My paint job and R-119 code paint.
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Powder coat version
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Its a good starting point. Clean :o.
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Will be a great bike when finished. The 85-86 CR500 were the fastest of all. I had an 85 for a few years riding the dunes loved it nothing came near it then I did a dumb thing and bought an 01 model and was a real slug standard. Took lots of work to get it going and still didn't go like the 85 model.
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yes, zorroz is correct as Honda progressively detuned them from 1986 to 1989.
Funny really as i have an 85' and i don't feel that they are unrideable, sure they have a strong engine but its not peaky i reckon its broad.
the only problem i have is compression lock into corners if i don't get on the clutch quick enough in a tight corner, great motor and 1st gear is never used and i do all my starts in either 2nd or 3rd gear depending on track surface and drive from the gate. at Barrabool that has a slight down hill start, its 3rd gear.
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It is looking very good did you ever get that pe400 from Tasmania? Thanks Michael. :)
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yes, zorroz is correct as Honda progressively detuned them from 1986 to 1989.
Funny really as i have an 85' and i don't feel that they are unrideable, sure they have a strong engine but its not peaky i reckon its broad.
the only problem i have is compression lock into corners if i don't get on the clutch quick enough in a tight corner, great motor and 1st gear is never used and i do all my starts in either 2nd or 3rd gear depending on track surface and drive from the gate. at Barrabool that has a slight down hill start, its 3rd gear.
Spot on Hoony. Very rideable and broad band, just a lot of horsepower everywhere!
Oops! Looks great mate! Keep the pics coming.
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It is looking very good did you ever get that pe400 from Tasmania? Thanks Michael. :)
frosty, its on the way, I think it will get here after x-mass. I was close to calling but I got a great deal through Bikenut Transport.
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Hoony & 090 cheers guys, you are on the money, it was just fortunate for me that I bought the 86 in 1986. Who would have thought it was last of the nasty ones. The 86 was the last model with the short con-rod. The ignition is different to the 87 so who knows what the curve is. The 86 had a longer reed block than later models and a longer expansion chamber, well they look longer to a low fat pipe later on. The porting is different to later models so I think from 84 to 89 many little changes were happening. I rode an 87 that had some slight work way back and found it a comparable bike, haven’t ridden any others.
I am keen to hit that rush again and cautious of getting caught up in it as well. :o
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These days the old 'early ones were the fast ones' is in the dust bin of history. THESE (http://www.cpindinc.com/pub/part_list?manufacturer=5) are coming out very soon ;)
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Good choice getting the 400 I am always looking at the pe400's thanks Michael. :)
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These days the old 'early ones were the fast ones' is in the dust bin of history. THESE (http://www.cpindinc.com/pub/part_list?manufacturer=5) are coming out very soon ;)
I didnt know about them, I think once the money settles down I might get one just for the sake of it.
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Good choice getting the 400 I am always looking at the pe400's thanks Michael. :)
Thanks, are PE400 parts hard to get/ after market & OEM?
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Some yes some no alot yes really hard to find but depends how you are going to do it up if you want standard fully original it will be very hard to find parts thanks Michael. :)
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any update on resto of Big Red Power stand?
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Cheers Hoony, I need to release this bike and build it up like Ford,s release of the BA Falcon or an epic movie ;D ;D
A sample of things to come; thought I would post some progress pictures and when I get the swing arm back (hope this weekend) I will post pictures of the bike.
I am getting the awing arm re-anodized so I hope it looks ticky-boo ;)
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looks very beasty will you blow the ding out of the pipe?? thanks Michael.
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looks very beasty will you blow the ding out of the pipe?? thanks Michael.
Michael, I know of a couple of methods of pulling dents, pressure & heat plus making a little bridge puller.
Do you know of any easy/ good methods?
Mate I nearly called you about the PE400 but I got it to WA and I am happy with its condition, needs work but that’s to be expected. Thinking of licensing the bike, recon it would be a hoot riding it to work. When I picked up the bike I spotted two guys 40 plus in a HQ ute, expression said it all, they knew what it was and there looks of man an old PE. Priceless, I didn’t see the expressions after wards. Probably ?????????????? what the F# :o
Cheers Pete :)
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Hydraulic clutch is a nice touch, have one on my 84 500 and is a dream to use.
Bike is coming along nicely PS.
Shane
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;) The good old PE looks I was riding near Narborthong and there was a heap of new ktm's on the side of the road they obviously heard me coming I could tell they didnt know what it was but they knew it was a big 2 stroke when I get them done I will have them all on the trailer somemany people already spin there heads when they see them it is fun to ride too last week I was at Bonnie Doon and mucking around doing mono's my stock 400t was doing them in every gear. But then I rode a xr250 for a while no guts at all got back on the PE and nearly killed myself Just that one bike that I really like if I found more I would own more no doubt.
Pete the pipe looks good any way if it is a racer dings are always going to happen I would probably drill a small hole on the weld that is already there and make a right angled puller heat it up with the oxy and pull it out with pressure you have to get plugs etc etc it is a pain.
The bike is looking great Pete careful when you go to start that 400 put boots on riding boots if you do it runners or just work boots you stand a good chance of a big scrape up you leg trust me I have done it more than once and it hurts thanks Michael. :)
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Naked bike post
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;) The good old PE looks I was riding near Narborthong and there was a heap of new ktm's on the side of the road they obviously heard me coming I could tell they didnt know what it was but they knew it was a big 2 stroke when I get them done I will have them all on the trailer somemany people already spin there heads when they see them it is fun to ride too last week I was at Bonnie Doon and mucking around doing mono's my stock 400t was doing them in every gear. But then I rode a xr250 for a while no guts at all got back on the PE and nearly killed myself Just that one bike that I really like if I found more I would own more no doubt.
Pete the pipe looks good any way if it is a racer dings are always going to happen I would probably drill a small hole on the weld that is already there and make a right angled puller heat it up with the oxy and pull it out with pressure you have to get plugs etc etc it is a pain.
The bike is looking great Pete careful when you go to start that 400 put boots on riding boots if you do it runners or just work boots you stand a good chance of a big scrape up you leg trust me I have done it more than once and it hurts thanks Michael. :)
Cheers frosty, keen to get the PE going but must finish this project first. I know what you mean about kick starting with boots on the CR is nasty for killing, legs boots or what ever.
Pete
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The bike is looking very good now. not to far to go at all.
I wouldnt warn you about the pe if I didnt have a few bits of bark missing more than once it is a specially bad bike for that every thing else is great about it the thing is it tends to do it the one time you dont wear boots you think it will fire into life first kick so I will just keep my runners or work boots on I am glad I have grown a bit more I can start it with my left foot on the ground and sitting down.
I wouldnt mind a cr500 one day my friend has a yz100 with a dg head it has had different forks and rear suspension it sits higher than the pe400 although not a fan of much bikes under 250. keep up the good work thanks Michael.
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Hi Pete.
Looks like you are doing a great job mate.
Any updates?
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Just had a quik look through the latest just bikes mag and noticed theres a very clean looking honda CR500RG
for sale in south australia. $4950....