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Marque Remarks => Suzuki => Topic started by: Marc.com on November 28, 2009, 10:18:17 pm
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starting to look unreal ;D
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/marcFX_photo/RecentshotsNov28089.jpg)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/marcFX_photo/RecentshotsNov28087.jpg)
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HeHe I like the subject heading
The arm is just like mine , I was gunna ask you for a view of the pivot bolt area.
Interesting how there is a space between the bearings where as the stock arm goe's allthe way across.
Looking cool anyways.
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Makes a difference having a little body work on it. I am going to hussle it out, piece of piss compared to the KSI time pit.
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Sorry but that is easily the 2nd ugliest swingarm i've ever seen, close behind the one on the MX250.
It looks like it was made from a meccano set..
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What length shocks are you using there?
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Sorry but that is easily the 2nd ugliest swingarm i've ever seen, close behind the one on the MX250.
;D ;D Yeah my mate said he 'wouldn't build a bike with that swingarm", I think its cool, hell if O Mara had ridden with one you would all want it. 8)
Shocks are 16", I am sure they violate some rule or other.
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Posted by: marcFX
Shocks are 16", I am sure they violate some rule or other.
Well for me, there's far more to vintage mx than how rules and eligibility tends to be viewed. I've felt for a long time this always penalizes
innovative and ground-breaking bikes that end up running at the least competitive end of their alloted era, and ignores the place of hop-up
gear by placing people in the difficult position of needing to justify the use of a swing arm here or flat-slide carb there. So when someone
wants to put a bike together, perhaps basing the whole rebuild on a trick period part, I feel this should be respected and applauded. To suggest
that a part is 'ugly' misses the whole point. We all know, now we've all partly grown up, that most of the genuine aftermarket bits and pieces of the era were
of dubious design and rarely added any real performance advantage. I for one can see not only the inevitable 'one-up-man-ship', the psychology of 'Ive got something tricker than you' that motivated many way back then as it still does today, but also the humour of all this as we look back on simpler times when we were all just that little bit more gullible, and not quite as cynical as we are today. So yeah, good on ya Marc for this one, and keep us updated,
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Sorry but that is easily the 2nd ugliest swingarm i've ever seen, close behind the one on the MX250.
;D ;D Yeah my mate said he 'wouldn't build a bike with that swingarm", I think its cool, hell if O Mara had ridden with one you would all want it. 8)
Shocks are 16", I am sure they violate some rule or other.
they are parts from the period - no problem. I suppose if its a pre 78 bike then the shocks might push the travel over the class limit.
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Mark, given the typical "look & feel" of the workshop and surroundings, where are you located in Japan? The plate on the truck in the background is a little hard for me to read so i can't pick up on the prefecture.
Rod
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Geez Marc, now the ninja's from Suzuki are gonna come kick ya door in, flog ya and then turn you into meso soup!!!!. Why dont you fire up one of those humungus turbos in the background and melt the flucker!!!!......maybe the ninja's could straighten that arm? and then you could put chopsticks between the holes and use it as a drying stand for your nappies?. Gaston would be rolling over in his grave if he saw that swingarm!!! ;)
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Marc what was that arm originly made to fit ??? witn the space between the pivots its not air cooled RM or is it.
Now you said before beauty is in the eye of the beholder ;) so heres a link to a place you should visit next time your home ;D
http://www.matthews.co.nz/
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Posted by: marcFX
simpler times when we were all just that little bit more gullible, and not quite as cynical as we are today. So yeah, good on ya Marc for this one, and keep us updated,
Cheers mate yes they were simpler times, we have Simons going on the front and Works Performance bringing up the rear.
Speaking of bring up the rear, Bill, which glasses did you choose and by the way what happened to my DG head.
Bahnsy this is Tokyo, we have 4 workshops and I was very spoilt last year and had a lot of money to spend. I got to build 4 pull out draw and stainless working palaces of workshops.
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Bill, which glasses did you choose and by the way what happened to my DG head.
Rose coloured glasses Marc ;D DG head ???
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Whether we like Marcs swingarm or not is irrelevent. As long as he likes it and that it works, who gives a rats arse. One of the things that get up my nose a bit is people criticising other peoples bikes because they don't fit into their own little demographic. I don't know Marc, never met him but I sure admire his slightly left of centre slant at building a bike. He definitely doesn't follow the cookie cutter mentality when it comes to building a vintage racer. I admire the patience it takes to build a showroom standard concourse resto but I also love those who can build something that displays a bit of imagination and a willingness to try something different. Give the bloke a go for having a go. At least he's got the balls to put his bikes up for us to scrutinise, unlike many on this forum who've yet to show us what they've got. They're often the ones with the pointiest fingers and the barely hidden sniggers in their posts.
Ugly is the new black Marc...go for it matey. ;D
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Mark that swingarm is as butt ugly as Aunty Helen ,recently retired from Unzud, but good to see your ideas.
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Enjoy your swingarm made by the Holy Gods. ;) :)
Can we have some pics when she's finished 8)
cheers
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hell if O Mara had ridden with one you would all want it.
never a truer word said :D
I don't mind it actually, it's certainly not "normal" but once the whole bike is together...
Just interested as to how many bits and pieces you pick up locally?
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Mark that swingarm is as butt ugly as Aunty Helen ,recently retired from Unzud, but good to see your ideas.
nah nothing is as ugly as Aunty Helen :o
Thanks for all the encouragement, actually I think my the time the swinger is on and nice narrow 125 with some decent forks it will be a laugh. Like Firko said, full stock 100 point restos are fine but you have to break it up a bit.
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Mark that swingarm is as butt ugly as Aunty Helen ,recently retired from Unzud, but good to see your ideas.
nah nothing is as ugly as Aunty Helen :o
Thanks for all the encouragement, actually I think my the time the swinger is on and nice narrow 125 with some decent forks it will be a laugh. Like Firko said, full stock 100 point restos are fine but you have to break it up a bit.
For my taste the ugly swingarms are those plain Jane / girl nextdoor DG things.This thing is like some mysterious and wild Gypsy women.I know what I'd rather ride. ;)
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I'm with firko 100%
Something different always catches the eye and marcFX has taken the time to show what he's upto half way around the world.
I'm almost done with my resto on the RM125C and will take up firko's offer of "show us what they've got!"
I was going to post it soon but what the hell.....
http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=807100&page=2
Keep em' coming marcFX
cheers
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For my taste the ugly swingarms are those plain Jane / girl nextdoor DG things.This thing is like some mysterious and wild Gypsy women.I know what I'd rather ride.
That's gold! ;D The DG swingarms don't bother me as much as those awful bland and ilegal Novation things. Bring on the Gypsy women!
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For my taste the ugly swingarms are those plain Jane / girl nextdoor DG things.This thing is like some mysterious and wild Gypsy women.I know what I'd rather ride.
That's gold! ;D The DG swingarms don't bother me as much as those awful bland and ilegal Novation things. Bring on the Gypsy women!
Actually Firko I was thinking that a swingarm equivalent of your girl in the profile pic on the new site would win everyone over but I just can't think of any arms that would look that good.
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Build a Vmx sidecar next please Marc ;) Cheers Tim754
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Just interested as to how many bits and pieces you pick up locally?
Yeah Japan doesn't have huge amounts of old MXers but they come up. On yahoo at the moment are set of factory Kayaba 39mm forks off SR, another RM125B, interesting fuel tanks, mostly you get a low hour motor and bleached out plastics. I bought the RM125C with low hour motor/ frame/CDI etc for $400, as already had most of the other bits. 125s are more common but also more expensive, nobody loves 250s, I have never seen an open class bike.
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http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/123645597
check these out factory Kayabas $800 Aus.
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Hey Marc care to translate :) or could you tell me if they are pre 78 legal thanks Bill :)
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That's easy Bill
The used item, there is a small scar, the inner tube do not rust, oil are not, total length 960 millimeter rank and free long 820 millimeter rank, inner 38? and axle circles diameter 20?, those of the picture are everything. Only the person who the article understands well examination. (2009 November 24th 15:37 additions) today utilization in object and the exhibition vehicle etc. As for travelling responsibility on self responsibility.
Seller usually turns up some good stuff. Let me know if you want to know how to get them Bill.
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That's easy Bill
The used item, there is a small scar, the inner tube do not rust, oil are not, total length 960 millimeter rank and free long 820 millimeter rank, inner 38? and axle circles diameter 20?, those of the picture are everything. Only the person who the article understands well examination. (2009 November 24th 15:37 additions) today utilization in object and the exhibition vehicle etc. As for travelling responsibility on self responsibility.
Yep Babelfish really made that clear ;D ;D .... but they are cool genuine factory item I know seller.
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I know what "item is from medieval times" , "persons with of nervousness of bidding" and 'item is junk' means ;D Usually reads like haiku............
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I know what "item is from medieval times" , "persons with of nervousness of bidding" and 'item is junk' means ;D Usually reads like haiku............
no we live in a blame based society so you paint the blackest picture possible in case someone blames you for something.
haiku ..... for Japanese Yahoo, or tee shirt slogan, you decide.
on nervous nights morning
medieval junk waits
for moon seas junk
but rider truth
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urm.. urm... don't you get arrested for taking that stuff?
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Not in Japan, it's actualy encouraged Luke ;D
nervous bid auction win
from medieval times
the item attached
gives vmx spirit
;D
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I think this Suzuki PDI arm looks pretty cool, in a bizarre sort of way. The gussets & holes are a bit over kill but it does look neatly done & in proportion. The Yamaha arm on the other thread looks home made the way those gussets have been added, maybe it was an unfinished prototype?
B & S were way ahead of their time when they started & I guess they were struggling to keep up by the late seventies.
As to the gap in the pivot section, the Yamaha arm that I just posted on the other thread has the same gap.
I think it was a one casting fits all kind of deal, they would have supplied a spacer to fit in the gap for the various models which would have been easier that making up several different castings for different models.
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I think it was a one casting fits all kind of deal,
Pretty true Geoff..All three of my B&S swingarms are the same except for the length and bracketry for brake stays etc.
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For all of you Suzuki punters wanting to join Marc on the "Something Different" bench, here's a lovely PDI for sale on this mornings Swapmeet.
December 6, 2009
Vintage PDI Swingarm for a 1978 Suzuki RM125, it may also fit other models as well. After putting this on my bike I realized that I would need to have longer FoxShox, approx 17" and I didnt want to dish out the cash for them. As you can see I cut a "V" in it for clearance for the FoxShox. I have the cutouts if you wanted to use it for a different application, they would just need welded back. The swingarm will need bushings, different axle spacers than stock and chain adjusters. Someone told me that CZ adjusters will work but all you would need to do is weld a bolt to a washer and make your own. I dont know what the difference is in this one and an LOP but to me they look the same. $250.00 Email with any questions. Free shipping in the U.S.A. Check out my other auctions and thanks for looking.
Rocky Ketcham
Tampa, FL
Email
Registered Since 6/13/2009 | 4 Posts
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For all of you Suzuki punters wanting to join Marc on the "Something Different" bench, here's a lovely PDI for sale on this mornings Swapmeet.
Yes Firko immitation is the most sincere form of flattery and no doubt there are some guys eyeing that sweet swingarm hoping to join the club. Luckily this one comes already hand carved for the lower mount, however how you were going to attach the Foxys to the frame has been a little glossed over.
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little more progress
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/marcFX_photo/Marcsnewtoy005-1.jpg)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/marcFX_photo/Marcsnewtoy003-1.jpg)
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I spent 5 minutes looking for a sign of dirt -oil- even foot prints, but all I can can see is a mirror finish floor. ???
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I spent 5 minutes looking for a sign of dirt -oil- even foot prints, but all I can can see is a mirror finish floor. ???
floor is 4 years old, but my staff mopping it down most weeks. You may have notice that they also polished the lifting chains last week. ;D
The joy of Japanese employees
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What's the big blower for marcFX-no jokes please :)
cheers west oz
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I's say sewage treatment plant blower?
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XXL size turbochargers, types used in ships etc
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XXL size turbochargers, types used in ships etc
right in one not a sewage plant in site. We produce turbochargers with the largest at 14 Tonnes ( engine needs 3 or 4 of them) The compressor set can cost as much as a new Benz.
Hence the spotless condition of my workshops. Its the small things that will always get you, like being clean and on time and the quality of your reporting.
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turbochargers of the gods ;D
http://www05.abb.com/global/scot/scot208.nsf/veritydisplay/7d71e16c42799eddc12575ca0049097c/$File/ABBTC_TPL_B.pdf
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I spent 5 minutes looking for a sign of dirt -oil- even foot prints, but all I can can see is a mirror finish floor. ???
floor is 4 years old, but my staff mopping it down most weeks. You may have notice that they also polished the lifting chains last week. ;D
The joy of Japanese employees
Marc are you interested in an employee exchange ;D Ill take one of your Japs (preferably one who likes a challenge as we got a dirty floor and shit loads of rusty chains) and You can have one of my Indians ;) (Good for fork all , untidy, unpunctuall, unpleasant & unsackable) on the up side you will really appreiciate the Jap on his return ;D Shall we say 6 months air fares and accom included
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Marc are you interested in an employee exchange ;D Ill take one of your Japs (preferably one who likes a challenge as we got a dirty floor and shit loads of rusty chains) and You can have one of my Indians ;) (Good for fork all , untidy, unpunctuall, unpleasant & unsackable)
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To my shame we have actually had to send NZ some Japanese in the past to sort them out ,after the Kiwi's running the shop were arrested or drunk or both. One day when I am ready to retire to Taupo Bill you can sack the lot of them mate. ;D
Hey do you know my cousin Tony, he has a big tow business in Wanganui.
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Found another stray god....
http://www.vintagemx.us/cgi-bin/largephoto.cgi?C=B7wTm47Puafk55dH
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Found another stray god....
http://www.
vintagemx.us/cgi-bin/largephoto.cgi?C=B7wTm47Puafk55dH
love the artistic free style grinder work to fit the shocks. ::)