OzVMX Forum
Marque Remarks => KTM => Topic started by: Graham on November 19, 2009, 06:17:09 pm
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Have a look on ebay under classic bikes starting bid $1850.00
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Unless the plastics have been changed thats an 85. 84 had the rad shrouds under the tank.
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Nice bike!
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/KTM-GS-250-1984_W0QQitemZ170408631776QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Motorcycles?hash=item27ad255de0#ht_500wt_1182
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Unless the plastics have been changed thats an 85. 84 had the rad shrouds under the tank.
The bike is date stamped 1984, frame , engine even the wheels
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Big K whats your call.
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Looks like an '85 model to me. What are the engine & frame numbers?
Cheers,
K
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1985 models have frame numbers ranging from 8406..... to 8505.....
Cheers,
K
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Bikes are usually manufactured in the last half of a year and early into the next year. The dates stamped are usually manufacture dates. So if a KTM is stamped 84 and a month eg 06/07/08/09/11/12 it would mean its a 85 model as the 84 models were starting to be made in the second half of the year for the next year model. Many, many guys get caught out thinking the date they see stamped on the frame or the compliance plate is the model year of the bike which its not as it is only the manufacture date.
Also the date stamped on the rims is the date the rims were made, not the model year of the bike. The rims would have had to been made in early 84 so they had them ready to start assembling the 85 models in the second half of the 84
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Many, many guys get caught out thinking the date they see stamped on the frame or the compliance plate is the model year of the bike which its not as it is only the manufacture date.
And vice versa! I've had guys back in the shop DEMANDING their money back because the 08 model they just purchased was manufactured in 07.... takes a bit of explaining!
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Bikes are usually manufactured in the last half of a year and early into the next year. The dates stamped are usually manufacture dates. So if a KTM is stamped 84 and a month eg 06/07/08/09/11/12 it would mean its a 85 model as the 84 models were starting to be made in the second half of the year for the next year model. Many, many guys get caught out thinking the date they see stamped on the frame or the compliance plate is the model year of the bike which its not as it is only the manufacture date.
Also the date stamped on the rims is the date the rims were made, not the model year of the bike. The rims would have had to been made in early 84 so they had them ready to start assembling the 85 models in the second half of the 84
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My 1996 KTM 360-EXC was built in 1995,
but released as the 96-360
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Its a 1985 model.
As well as the previously mentioned tank shape/radiator shrouds, I'm 99.9% sure that the 84s had drum front brakes.
Further to Leith's comments about the build date, be VERY wary of trusting the compliance plate dates on Bert Flood era KTMs. Unlike the importers of the Japansese brands of the day, Bert 'manipulated' the scheme to his (and the buying public's) advantage.
Short version is that the 250s and 300s were usually all complianced as 250s, while 350s and 500s were all complianced as 400s.
Also, if he had old compliance plates, they'd get used up on the new model bikes.
My old 88 125MX was complianced as an 88 125GS by BFI.
My old 89 250GS was complianced as an 88 or 87 250GS by BFI.
A few other bikes I've looked at are similar.
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So would the bike mentioned above be pre 85 eligible ?
Manufacture date is March 84 (according to ebay)
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No.
The March 84 date almost certainly came from the compliance plate, and is unrelated to the actual build date (3/84 may also be a particular, common component like a wheel rim).
The bike is a designated 1985 model.
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My old 88 125MX was complianced as an 88 125GS by BFI.
Please correct me if im wrong but i didn't think MX models came with a compliance plate,
MX are for an MX with no lighting, no need for the plate as it would never go on road,
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That's my point... My bike was literally a MXer with lights - and non-functioning lights at that, as there was no lighting coil in the MX ignition....
I assume that BF had a customer who wanted an MXer to race enduros in, and they gave him one - or maybe they simply ran out of GS bikes and still had compliance plates left over... Quite illegal in either case, but it clearly happened.