OzVMX Forum
Clubroom => Trail & Track => Topic started by: Tex on June 10, 2015, 03:36:10 PM
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http://www.enduro21.com/index.php/component/k2/item/2889-yamaha-unveils-all-new-yz250x
Yamaha are launching the "all-new woods machine" known as the YZ250X; based on the 2T YZ250. I guess this is intended for the US market, especially GNCC racing which seems to be very popular over there.
I have no idea if it's coming to Australia.
Tex
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Some lights and an electric start would make it even better
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Everyone seems to assume it's coming here... But this assumption doesn't seem to be based on anything real... Then again, they sell the YZF250X here, so maybe.
I love the idea of this, but I fear it will end up being far too expensive for what it is. It needs to sell for about the same price as a normal YZ250 (remembering that hardly any shops even bother asking the full RRP on them). If it's up around $11k like people are speculating it will be, then you'd buy a Beta 250RR and get a proper enduro bike for the same money.
That said: signs of life in the Jap 2T enduro market makes me very happy. Hopefully Yamaha is putting a toe in the water before developing a new YZ250/WR250Z.
It's a nice dream anyhow...
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Needs Autolube.
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Nice bike and the other piece on the 2016 model with Bob Hannah was cool too
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It needs to sell for about the same price as a normal YZ250
"The bike will retail for only $100 more than the standard YZ250 at $7,390." That's US dollars of course. You'd think (hope) it'd be a similar story if the bike is released here.
I reckon enterprising Vic dealers could sell a "rec rego ready" version as well, just by adding a few bits on.
Tex
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Needs Autolube.
None of us enduro boys want auto lube its a pain in the a$$
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It must be coming here, Yamaha Australia have asked a Vic guy who's going well in AORC to ride one at the next event.
K
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Needs Autolube.
None of us enduro boys want auto lube its a pain in the a$$
And that attitude is, sadly, why we miss out on the performance, reliability and convenience of autolube on performance bikes. >:(
The 4T boys said the same about electric starts 20 years ago... How many of them remove the electric starter nowdays?!
For all the talk of EFI 2Ts, I'd hugely prefer autolube.
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I'm wondering how much the gearbox costs is? and I'm sure it would retro fit my 09 model YZ
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Its a WRF400/426/450 box. You need to lightly die-grind the cases for first gear to clear, and apparently it bolts straight in.
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Needs Autolube.
None of us enduro boys want auto lube its a pain in the a$$
And that attitude is, sadly, why we miss out on the performance, reliability and convenience of autolube on performance bikes. >:(
The 4T boys said the same about electric starts 20 years ago... How many of them remove the electric starter....?
...or the powervalve...?
Modern autolube might be entirely electrical or mechanical pump and ecu control to do away with any cable hassles. Those junction boxes could be a pain.
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Needs Autolube.
None of us enduro boys want auto lube its a pain in the a$$
And that attitude is, sadly, why we miss out on the performance, reliability and convenience of autolube on performance bikes. >:(
The 4T boys said the same about electric starts 20 years ago... How many of them remove the electric starter....?
...or the powervalve...?
Modern autolube might be entirely electrical or mechanical pump and ecu control to do away with any cable hassles. Those junction boxes could be a pain.
Despite inventing the servo powered YPVS system Yamaha would never use that and a solenoid oil pump on a dirt bike................... hopefully be a ADR'd Aussie version
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Nothing wrong with a good old cable. For an enduro/trail bike you don't want electronics to fail.
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Nothing wrong with a good old cable. For an enduro/trail bike you don't want electronics to fail.
Thats what everyone said about disc brakes efi etc etc Truth is most failures are through lack of maintenance. Even if a solenoid oil pump failed(rgv VJ23 has a warning light), you can tip the contents of the bottle into the tank.
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Nothing wrong with a good old cable. For an enduro/trail bike you don't want electronics to fail.
Which is why punters continue to steer away from dirt bike offerings with electric start only, ie no kick start
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Whats the world coming to? Enduros without a kicker and roadies without a start button(SR400). thats KLEVA marketing yamaha.
Autolubes are the best thing since sliced bread.. if they are done correctly.
Top the oil tank off in the morning and forget it, no carrying a spare bottle with you or pre mixing enough to get you through the ride and have it settle out while its waiting for you..
Ive never had to rebuild a crank on any of my Suzuki CCI .Some systems do work well.
I do hope the electrics are reliable as its a pain trying to push start a bike thats bogged up to the side plates.
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I'm wondering how much the gearbox costs is? and I'm sure it would retro fit my 09 model YZ
..or one from a '97 ish YZ 250 WR ?
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Fairly comprehensive test here:
http://dirtbiketest.com/bike-tests/2016-yamaha-yz250x/
Tex
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nice bike but wheres the lights? i always thought propper enduro bikes had lights on them
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nice bike but wheres the lights? i always thought propper enduro bikes had lights on them
From the Yamaha Australia website:
"The new two-stroke will be available with an optional cross country rec rego kit which is expected to prove popular in states that offer recreational registration."
No mention of how much extra the kit costs, but if you were buying one new I expect you could negotiate something.
Tex