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Offline Ted

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Chain support ( guard )
« on: January 20, 2014, 03:40:20 PM »
Can someone please point out to me where in the MoMS does it state one has to be fitted to the rear wheel for a EVO bike.

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Re: Chain support ( guard )
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2014, 04:56:20 PM »
the word on the ground is that it will be back in for 2014 GCR's that have not yey been published!!!!!

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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2014, 04:59:14 PM »
When do they normally publish it Noel. Thanks
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Re: Chain support ( guard )
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2014, 05:00:24 PM »
OK this is complicated.  In the 2013 MOMS GCR 12.8.8.6 gave an exemption to CMX/CDT.  However the commission meet on 20&21 April last year and recommended the exemption for CMX/CDT be removed.  This was approved by the MA Board.  They also approved the inclusion of a Ladies Class in Classic and Post Classic MX & DT.  The link to the minutes is below.

http://www.ma.org.au/fileadmin/user_upload/Documents/Reports___Minutes/2010/Commission_Meetings/2013_Commission_Minutes/24011037_Final_CMX_after_teleconference_CMX_Minutes_2013.pdf

The new MOMS is now on line http://www.moms.org.au/ The CMX/CDT section is up there and currently none of the changes approved by the MA Board are there, but that doesn't mean they won't be there at some stage soon.

Have I answered your question or just confused you more?
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Re: Chain support ( guard )
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2014, 05:05:29 PM »

Most of the bikes in tghe EVO class at the TBC were knocked back on this and we were told that it was not a classic title meeting and that the club enforces this rule regardles of what class of bike it is, regardles of what the moms says.
No guard No ride.
I think you will find that this will be the case at all club meetings in the near future if not to protect us but the marshalls as well.

There was a bloke getting around the pits that had a couple of scratchers missing due to an uncovered sprocket.
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Re: Chain support ( guard )
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2014, 05:12:58 PM »
I'll get one
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Re: Chain support ( guard )
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2014, 05:22:24 PM »
what is interesting with these new online MoM's is that they have left out
the" all disciplines"  chapter with the reference to except from CMX/CDT

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Re: Chain support ( guard )
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2014, 05:52:32 PM »
How do you open up the MoMS at www.moms.org.au
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Re: Chain support ( guard )
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2014, 05:59:42 PM »
Everything that was in "All Disciplines" that related to each Discipline was put in again for that Discipline.  However the GCR (Classic MX/DT) referring to the rear chain guard has not been carried over YET!!!!!!  That doesn't mean it won' bet at some stage soon.

It is clear that there are officials in NSW that will enforce it anyway and I'm sure there are others that know it should be there.

As an extra I just double clicked on the moms link just now and it worked for me.
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Re: Chain support ( guard )
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2014, 06:30:10 PM »
Does the standard funny looking pretty useless one on the yz125d count as one?
There is a massive gap?

I will try and find a pic
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Re: Chain support ( guard )
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2014, 06:42:02 PM »
Excuse my ignorance, but can anyone explain what this means?

16.15.4.3    If a plastic, fibreglass or part open chain guard is used, a steel bolt of not less than 10mm diameter, placed outside the bottom rear quadrant of the clutch sprocket. This bolt, if damaged, must be replaced.

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Re: Chain support ( guard )
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2014, 06:53:43 PM »
Think this pertains to primary drive set up and acts like a protector against  impact or the like  .....if bolt is damaged or bent, it becomes a tell tail.   This is my take, but then agian I may have it wrong ::) 

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Re: Chain support ( guard )
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2014, 07:03:32 PM »
Does the standard funny looking pretty useless one on the yz125d count as one?
There is a massive gap?

I will try and find a pic

That will be fine Paul
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Re: Chain support ( guard )
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2014, 07:26:17 PM »
This shits me a bit. Having nickel plated frames makes it a bit harder to manufacture something without flucking up the nickel.
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Re: Chain support ( guard )
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2014, 09:07:18 PM »
Firko, Iain, Rod, Davey - when you come up with something that will fit a B will you let me know  ;D  I hadn't planned a trip back to Oz until just before the Nats - so if I have to do something I need to be ready.

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