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Offline supersenior 50

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Re: 2020 Classic Nats
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2019, 02:03:05 PM »
It would be interesting to know how much of the following factors influence the clubs (and riders) in the decision to host (enter) a Nationals.
1 Cost- Permit $1500 (discounted rate), rider levy $27.50 per rider, high level of medical service $4000 approx., higher expectation of standard of trophies and facilities.
2 Convenience and ease of entering process from both organiser and entrant perspective. I have found, an experience shared by some   others, that Ridernet is considered not user friendly and there is opinion that it costs entries. Hard to quantify but seems to be a factor. I ramrodded the 2019 CMX Nats and frankly would not have taken it on if I'd been forced to use Ridernet. We used Nominate and postal entries and had no issues. Our Race Sec used Ridernet for the Qld Titles and spent a lot of her time trying to help people navigate Ridernet
 

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Re: 2020 Classic Nats
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2019, 05:55:13 PM »
Multiple entrant views. 2/3 riders- 6/9 classes

Cost of entry.           Don’t care
Trophy standard.      Care even less
Electronic entries.     Won’t do it.
Facilities.                  Don’t care. Self sufficient.

I only enter once Supp Regs are published, print them off and fill them in. Direct deposit funds with sponsorship and parking fees to host club bank account. Print remittance and mail with filled out entry forms to host clubs contact.

We don’t enter events that insist on electronic entries
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Re: 2020 Classic Nats
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2019, 07:00:26 AM »
Electronic entries has stopped me in the past.
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Re: 2020 Classic Nats
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2019, 07:41:19 PM »
From this riders point of view entry costs, trophies and online forms are not a big consideration. Travel time is a bit and track suitability to bike era more so but not a breaker.

From an organising club's position the issue I hear discussed most is "how high is the financial risk to members if it flops?". Track suitability and manpower organisational burden is also there as a worry.

The financial risk aspect could probably be covered with event insurance - provided by MA -as part of their contribution. My .02c


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Re: 2020 Classic Nats
« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2019, 06:02:27 PM »
The Majority of us will never get a trophy so to me that's not an issue . I prefer posting entries but im comp literate enough to muddle through . Distance is the killer for me and the main reason when and where I ride . Two drawbacks to it for me Self employed in a one man job and that little strip of water that's called Bass Straight . ( A Cpl with a ute using a cabin in season return is approx $1000. ) then add fuel to Qld or WA and time off ( while my competitors take away my clients ) I know the WA crowd drives across the country each time and I admire them their dedication but I cant take the time off . The states I can do are VIC , NSW and SA . Apart from that Tasmania is a great place but utterly shit for VMX . And flat track whats that ? 
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Re: 2020 Classic Nats
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2019, 06:37:59 PM »
Costs are not a real issue for me.
Finding the time is more of issue, if I need a lot of time off work I have to balance it against my other interests.
Rider net sucks but dosent stop me. Dont care about trophies. A great classic track dose make a difference for me , but they are all disapearing. Camping at the track with good catering helps.
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Re: 2020 Classic Nats
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2019, 02:20:51 PM »
Hello All.. any chance of a place like the complex at Nerong NSW being used for a Nats..? Multiple tracks.. facilities already on site.. shops showers  toilets etc..multiple tracks can cater for many age groups of bikes.. track maintenance on site..? has a place like this been considered..?

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Re: 2020 Classic Nats
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2019, 04:24:15 PM »
Also needs an organising club with a big list of personnel and gear whose members are willing to put up the 20K or so.

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Re: 2020 Classic Nats
« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2019, 06:58:05 AM »
Rest assured we (MA) are working on sorting all the CMX National title events (CMX/DT, PCMX/PCDT), however these are complex dealings. Details to follow in due course.
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Re: 2020 Classic Nats
« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2019, 04:20:48 PM »
Here’s hoping youse dump the All Powers races in Pre 75 and Evo and go back to 125/250/500 classes
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Re: 2020 Classic Nats
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2019, 08:04:19 AM »
If this is the pinacle event for this category of racing why would M/A not  cut costs to support? 20K is alot for a small club to find
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Re: 2020 Classic Nats
« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2019, 12:33:33 PM »
20k is possibly a stretch - there are costs, medical, MA fees, trophy costs etc all / or most anyway of which become a manageable choice for the promoter.  In my experience, running the event has been a profitable venture for the club - as it should be.